N900 power consumption

2010-04-21 Thread Henrik Frisk
Hi,

After a few weeks of usage my up time before the battery was
completely drained was less than 7 hours (during this time the unit
was idle; completely unused). I started disabling services following
the suggestions in some of the other threads discussing battery
duration. Widgets, skype, they all went. But to my surprise, the
biggest power hog was the sip account. When I disabled it my up-time
was more reasonable. Anyone knows a way to reduce the power
consumption without disabling the account? Some of the advanced
options I don't really know what they do.

 It's really a shame because I was so pleased to finally have found a
mobile sip client that really works. Any suggestions are appreciated.

best,

/henrik
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Re: Corrupt close window 'X'

2010-04-21 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Nigel (Merv) Hughes  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Starting today a strange thing has started. When minimized rather than
> showing a blue 'X' in the top right of the window the 'X' is corrupted as a
> cloud of blue dots, screen shot here.
>
> Has anyone seen this before? Does anybody know the fix?

I've seen the same thing before. It went away, I don't remember
exactly what I did. Either try to change the theme or reboot the
phone.
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Re: What is the risk to enable RD Mode in X Terminal on N900?

2010-04-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 21.04.2010, 18:19 +0400 schrieb khalid khan:
> (where can i find this HAM any link pls)

HAM = Hildon Application Manager (which is preinstalled).

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Re: What is the risk to enable RD Mode in X Terminal on N900?

2010-04-21 Thread khalid khan
The main thing is i know only to enter *121# to get my credit balance in the
first step configuration of USSD widget.

Rest of the things i couldn't understand. like Praser for widget , Enable
Banner Praser , Chain , Regular Expression etc...

By the way do i need to uninstall the USSD widget & install this from HAM
(where can i find this HAM any link pls)

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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Thomas Tanner  wrote:

> You need to go into desktop configuration mode of your desktop (tap on
> top right corner) and then click in the wrench symbol of the widget to
> configure it.
>
> Don't install deb packages from websites!
> Use HAM and install ussd-widget from there.
>
> On 21.04.10 15:49, khalid khan wrote:
> > Andre the error is not in the image which i sent in the email but an eg.
> > that how it should have been worked.
> >
> > When i add the USSD widget on the N900 desktop it appears as "Click to
> > update" when i click it goes for "Processing" for few seconds then shows
> > "Error" then return backs to "Click to update".
> >
> > After installing rootsh from Application Manager & installing all
> > support files like : Python Hildon,Python Hildon Desktop
> > Loader,Pexpect,USSD Pad, USSD Common & USSD Widget in the N900 root file
> > I followed those steps in X Terminal as in the link
> >
> >
> http://lovemynokia.com/how-to-check-credit-and-other-details-in-nokia-n900-with-a-touch-of-a-widget
> >
> > Only it worked in USSD Pad where you have to click the pad enter the
> > number press send then message appears which normally takes time It has
> > to be in one click, as the number is pre-typed.
>
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Re: What is the risk to enable RD Mode in X Terminal on N900?

2010-04-21 Thread Thomas Tanner
You need to go into desktop configuration mode of your desktop (tap on
top right corner) and then click in the wrench symbol of the widget to
configure it.

Don't install deb packages from websites!
Use HAM and install ussd-widget from there.

On 21.04.10 15:49, khalid khan wrote:
> Andre the error is not in the image which i sent in the email but an eg.
> that how it should have been worked.
> 
> When i add the USSD widget on the N900 desktop it appears as "Click to
> update" when i click it goes for "Processing" for few seconds then shows
> "Error" then return backs to "Click to update".
> 
> After installing rootsh from Application Manager & installing all
> support files like : Python Hildon,Python Hildon Desktop
> Loader,Pexpect,USSD Pad, USSD Common & USSD Widget in the N900 root file
> I followed those steps in X Terminal as in the link
> 
> http://lovemynokia.com/how-to-check-credit-and-other-details-in-nokia-n900-with-a-touch-of-a-widget
> 
> Only it worked in USSD Pad where you have to click the pad enter the
> number press send then message appears which normally takes time It has
> to be in one click, as the number is pre-typed.


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Re: What is the risk to enable RD Mode in X Terminal on N900?

2010-04-21 Thread khalid khan
Andre the error is not in the image which i sent in the email but an eg.
that how it should have been worked.

When i add the USSD widget on the N900 desktop it appears as "Click to
update" when i click it goes for "Processing" for few seconds then shows
"Error" then return backs to "Click to update".

After installing rootsh from Application Manager & installing all support
files like : Python Hildon,Python Hildon Desktop Loader,Pexpect,USSD Pad,
USSD Common & USSD Widget in the N900 root file I followed those steps in X
Terminal as in the link

http://lovemynokia.com/how-to-check-credit-and-other-details-in-nokia-n900-with-a-touch-of-a-widget

Only it worked in USSD Pad where you have to click the pad enter the number
press send then message appears which normally takes time It has to be in
one click, as the number is pre-typed.

Thanks
Khalid

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Andre Klapper wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, den 21.04.2010, 16:58 +0400 schrieb khalid khan:
> > Anyways the only extra thing i want is to use this USSD widget on my
> > desktop again it shows Error suppose to come as per image.Ussd widget
> > img.jpg
>
> I don't see any error on the image you posted.
>
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Re: What is the risk to enable RD Mode in X Terminal on N900?

2010-04-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 21.04.2010, 16:58 +0400 schrieb khalid khan:
> Anyways the only extra thing i want is to use this USSD widget on my
> desktop again it shows Error suppose to come as per image.Ussd widget
> img.jpg

I don't see any error on the image you posted.

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Re: What is the risk to enable RD Mode in X Terminal on N900?

2010-04-21 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
[Andre Klapper Mi  21. April 2010]:
> > But when i tried the first step in X Terminal by entering sudo
> > gainroot it shows " Enable RD mode if you want to break your device "
> 
> Installing rootsh from Extras makes more sense IMO.
> 

Well, the msg mentioned by OP is some kind of very ill humor of some Nokia 
developer or pkg manager. Its meaning actually is "Please install rootsh, or 
'sudo gainroot' and 'root' both will fail"

cheers
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Re: What is the risk to enable RD Mode in X Terminal on N900?

2010-04-21 Thread khalid khan
I already did install the USSD widget using  Application Manager but it is
not working showing "error" when I "click to update" on the desktop USSD
widget may be because of improper settings.

Can you please help me to guide step by step settings in the USSD widget
avoiding to use X Terminal.

Thanks
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Andre Klapper wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, den 21.04.2010, 14:48 +0400 schrieb khalid khan:
> > I found this link
> > "
> http://lovemynokia.com/how-to-check-credit-and-other-details-in-nokia-n900-with-a-touch-of-a-widget";
>  which has given all the information to install & use USSD Widget on Nokia
> N900 which is quite impressive.
>
> Why don't you use Application Manager to install USSD widget, instead of
> using X terminal?
>
> > But when i tried the first step in X Terminal by entering sudo
> > gainroot it shows " Enable RD mode if you want to break your device "
>
> Installing rootsh from Extras makes more sense IMO.
>
> > what does it mean? Is enabling the RD mode dangerous to usual
> > functions of N900 operations or does it makes device out of warranty
>
> Maybe negative results fo using R&D should be listed on
> http://wiki.maemo.org/R&D_mode .
> But as written before: You don't need it.
>
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Re: What is the risk to enable RD Mode in X Terminal on N900?

2010-04-21 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 21.04.2010, 14:48 +0400 schrieb khalid khan:
> I found this link
> " 
> http://lovemynokia.com/how-to-check-credit-and-other-details-in-nokia-n900-with-a-touch-of-a-widget
>  " which has given all the information to install & use USSD Widget on Nokia 
> N900 which is quite impressive.

Why don't you use Application Manager to install USSD widget, instead of
using X terminal?

> But when i tried the first step in X Terminal by entering sudo
> gainroot it shows " Enable RD mode if you want to break your device "

Installing rootsh from Extras makes more sense IMO.

> what does it mean? Is enabling the RD mode dangerous to usual
> functions of N900 operations or does it makes device out of warranty

Maybe negative results fo using R&D should be listed on
http://wiki.maemo.org/R&D_mode .
But as written before: You don't need it.

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What is the risk to enable RD Mode in X Terminal on N900?

2010-04-21 Thread khalid khan
Hello,

I found this link "
http://lovemynokia.com/how-to-check-credit-and-other-details-in-nokia-n900-with-a-touch-of-a-widget
"
which has given all the information to install & use USSD Widget on Nokia
N900 which is quite impressive.

But when i tried the first step in X Terminal by entering sudo gainroot it
shows " Enable RD mode if you want to break your device "

what does it mean? Is enabling the RD mode dangerous to usual functions of
N900 operations or does it makes device out of warranty

If it is not harmful to device functionality then how can i enable it.

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Re: Dealing with N900 responsiveness (or lack of thereof)

2010-04-21 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 12:10 +0200, ext Dawid Lorenz wrote:
> 
> 
> On 20 April 2010 16:52, Dawid Lorenz  wrote:
> I'd like to follow-up on this a little. Basically, after
> nearly two months since launching this thread and moving my
> N900 into much lower swappiness value (I currently have 30),
> frankly I can't see much difference. What usually happens is
> that after few days of overall performance gets horribly
> undermined, probably due to more and more things getting into
> swap space. Sometimes I struggle to take a call, just because
> screen doesn't really catch up on time. Utterly frustrating,
> so in order to remain sane, I simply have to reboot the
> device, just in order to "refresh" memory. Not very
> convenient.
> 
> I did a test with swapoff -a today, which completely cleared swap
> space, yet despite Conky reporting about 70'ish percent of overall RAM
> usage, so with pretty good margin available, I couldn't launch any
> application, as it has been kicked out with "Too many applications
> opened" message. Is there some kind of internal maximum limit of
> memory usage beyond which launching any app is refused?

There is a RAM calculation done in hildon-desktop before starting new
applications, to avoid extreme slowness in the system when RAM gets too
tight. Perhaps the calculation does not handle this swapless situation
well. See hd_app_mgr_activate() in src/launcher/hd-app-mgr.c.

-Kimmo

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Re: Dealing with N900 responsiveness (or lack of thereof)

2010-04-21 Thread Dawid Lorenz
On 20 April 2010 16:52, Dawid Lorenz  wrote:

> I'd like to follow-up on this a little. Basically, after nearly two months
> since launching this thread and moving my N900 into much lower swappiness
> value (I currently have 30), frankly I can't see much difference. What
> usually happens is that after few days of overall performance gets horribly
> undermined, probably due to more and more things getting into swap space.
> Sometimes I struggle to take a call, just because screen doesn't really
> catch up on time. Utterly frustrating, so in order to remain sane, I simply
> have to reboot the device, just in order to "refresh" memory. Not very
> convenient.
>

I did a test with swapoff -a today, which completely cleared swap space, yet
despite Conky reporting about 70'ish percent of overall RAM usage, so with
pretty good margin available, I couldn't launch any application, as it has
been kicked out with "Too many applications opened" message. Is there some
kind of internal maximum limit of memory usage beyond which launching any
app is refused?

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Web browser page load issues

2010-04-21 Thread Dawid Lorenz
I frequently experience very weird and frustrating problem with built-in web
browser in my N900, which is basically quite long lag between launching a
given URL and getting that URL to actually start loading. Say I type a "
www.google.com" URL in address bar, hit enter and expect the page to load
instantly (assumed stable and fast internet connection in the background,
obviously), however what *usually* happens is that progress bar under the
address bar slides right<->left back and forth for quite a while (sometimes
couple of seconds, sometimes tens of seconds!) before it eventually "clicks"
and starts loading the page - which is quite instant itself. It's
*just*about that lag before the page loading occurs.

Firefox/Fennec, apart from being a massive resource hog to the point where
whole device becomes unusable, is very good with instant page loading, so I
think background internet connectivity issues are beyond the suspicion.

Does anyone experience that problem? Is that something that could be
tweaked/managed or it's just a bug to be filed in bugzilla?

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Re: Corrupt close window 'X'

2010-04-21 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 18:20 +0200, ext Nigel (Merv) Hughes wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Starting today a strange thing has started. When minimized rather than
> showing a blue 'X' in the top right of the window the 'X' is corrupted
> as a cloud of blue dots, screen shot here.
> 
> Has anyone seen this before? Does anybody know the fix?
> 
> I have tried to search for an explanation but can't really think of
> the appropriate way to describe the problem to form the search. 
> I am new to this whole thing so if I have posted to the wrong list or
> committed some other offense please be gentle with me.

It looks like OpenGL driver corruption (bug that is impossible to
reproduce reliably). Restarting hildon-desktop or rebooting should fix
it.

-Kimmo

> 
> Thanks
> 
>  Merv

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