Re: Gtalk call doesnt work on 3/3.5 G Network
Nimbuzz doesn't exist for Maemo yet, only Symbian. I was just noting when Skype works and when it doesn't for my particular network. I don't know how you could proxy the service somehow. I don't know how Nimbuzz achieves its particular connection to the Skype network. K On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:09:43AM +0400, khalid khan wrote: Ok I see. But Kevin can you help me to download the Nimbuzz application for N900 because i couldn't find it in Ovi nor in Maemo web pages, generally in Ovi the Nimbuzz version is not compatible to N900. Or should i use proxy server for gtalk to be used in 3G network. Thanks Khalid On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: It may be your carrier. I notice that on ATT, Skype will not connect, but it will when I am using wifi. What is weird is that using the exact same SIM in a Symbian phone, I can connect to Skype using Nimbuzz, although that is probably proxied through their own servers. K On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 04:38:46AM +, khalid.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do anyone facing problem using N900 to make calls via gtalk on 3G or 3.5G network .I am using Data Package when i call the online gtalk contact it connects but no voice from both side. Amazingly the gtalk call works on Wi-fi connections perfectly.I have set the network setting mode as Any Connections tick marked Wi-fi connection when available is this causing any problem to call gtalk from 3G. Note: In UAE there is restrictions to use skype other third party call services but still gtalk works on PC or N900 in Wi-fi. Thanks Khalid -- Sent from my mobile computer using Nokia Messaging ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkvVK8AACgkQE+4TUALb7FEMUQCfS9+wvaOJCTWZLRfjXUwyC98Y a/8AoJBsrLOxnb6PDFbUZ9w9b3NL1P3y =2aC2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Gtalk call doesnt work on 3/3.5 G Network
It will be your carrier. The reason operators do this is so they don't loose revenue from services like SMS and voice calls. Sometimes also due to stupidity like anti-terrorism laws. NB: This is not a defence of this practice. You have a number of options: 1. Complain and ask them if they block gtalk. They may or may not unblock it. 2. Use a service that offers a proxied IM/voip service-like fring, nimbuzz, etc. 3. Try using tor. Hope that helps. Bernard - Original message - Ok I see. But Kevin can you help me to download the Nimbuzz application for N900 because i couldn't find it in Ovi nor in Maemo web pages, generally in Ovi the Nimbuzz version is not compatible to N900. Or should i use proxy server for gtalk to be used in 3G network. Thanks Khalid On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: It may be your carrier. I notice that on ATT, Skype will not connect, but it will when I am using wifi. What is weird is that using the exact same SIM in a Symbian phone, I can connect to Skype using Nimbuzz, although that is probably proxied through their own servers. K On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 04:38:46AM +, khalid.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Do anyone facing problem using N900 to make calls via gtalk on 3G or 3.5G network .I am using Data Package when i call the online gtalk contact it connects but no voice from both side. Amazingly the gtalk call works on Wi-fi connections perfectly.I have set the network setting mode as Any Connections tick marked Wi-fi connection when available is this causing any problem to call gtalk from 3G. Note: In UAE there is restrictions to use skype other third party call services but still gtalk works on PC or N900 in Wi-fi. Thanks Khalid -- Sent from my mobile computer using Nokia Messaging ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Gtalk call doesnt work on 3/3.5 G Network
Thank you Bernard for your kind information but here in UAE Skype,Fring,Nimbuzz or other third party are blocked only gtalk is working, i will take your advise call to customer care check what is the issue remedy to that, if they have any. Best Regards, Khalid On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Bernard Tyers b...@runningwithbulls.comwrote: It will be your carrier. The reason operators do this is so they don't loose revenue from services like SMS and voice calls. Sometimes also due to stupidity like anti-terrorism laws. NB: This is not a defence of this practice. You have a number of options: 1. Complain and ask them if they block gtalk. They may or may not unblock it. 2. Use a service that offers a proxied IM/voip service-like fring, nimbuzz, etc. 3. Try using tor. Hope that helps. Bernard - Original message - Ok I see. But Kevin can you help me to download the Nimbuzz application for N900 because i couldn't find it in Ovi nor in Maemo web pages, generally in Ovi the Nimbuzz version is not compatible to N900. Or should i use proxy server for gtalk to be used in 3G network. Thanks Khalid On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Kevin T. Neely ktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote: It may be your carrier. I notice that on ATT, Skype will not connect, but it will when I am using wifi. What is weird is that using the exact same SIM in a Symbian phone, I can connect to Skype using Nimbuzz, although that is probably proxied through their own servers. K On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 04:38:46AM +, khalid.re...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Do anyone facing problem using N900 to make calls via gtalk on 3G or 3.5G network .I am using Data Package when i call the online gtalk contact it connects but no voice from both side. Amazingly the gtalk call works on Wi-fi connections perfectly.I have set the network setting mode as Any Connections tick marked Wi-fi connection when available is this causing any problem to call gtalk from 3G. Note: In UAE there is restrictions to use skype other third party call services but still gtalk works on PC or N900 in Wi-fi. Thanks Khalid -- Sent from my mobile computer using Nokia Messaging ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: how memory management mechanism of maemo, where can I find information?
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 25.04.2010, 23:46 -0300 schrieb Rafael Rocha: hi everybody, I am now just studying how memory management mechanism of maemo, where can I find information? Can you please be a bit more specific, or describe what you plan to do? Makes it more likely to get an answer... Thanks, andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 power consumption
Hi Adrian, I haven't updated my firmware since I received the unit so probably no. I will try that. Does it affect the power management? /h On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Adrian Yanes de...@ayanes.com wrote: Hi Henrik, Do you have the latest firmware version? On 22 April 2010 00:27, Henrik Frisk fris...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, After a few weeks of usage my up time before the battery was completely drained was less than 7 hours (during this time the unit was idle; completely unused). I started disabling services following the suggestions in some of the other threads discussing battery duration. Widgets, skype, they all went. But to my surprise, the biggest power hog was the sip account. When I disabled it my up-time was more reasonable. Anyone knows a way to reduce the power consumption without disabling the account? Some of the advanced options I don't really know what they do. It's really a shame because I was so pleased to finally have found a mobile sip client that really works. Any suggestions are appreciated. best, /henrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 power consumption
Unless a newer firmware is available, don't upgrade to 3.2010.02-8. I have found since I upgraded my battery life has gone from 1 1/2 days to about 7-8 hours. Hope that helps, Bernard - Original message - Hi Adrian, I haven't updated my firmware since I received the unit so probably no. I will try that. Does it affect the power management? /h On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Adrian Yanes de...@ayanes.com wrote: Hi Henrik, Do you have the latest firmware version? On 22 April 2010 00:27, Henrik Frisk fris...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, After a few weeks of usage my up time before the battery was completely drained was less than 7 hours (during this time the unit was idle; completely unused). I started disabling services following the suggestions in some of the other threads discussing battery duration. Widgets, skype, they all went. But to my surprise, the biggest power hog was the sip account. When I disabled it my up-time was more reasonable. Anyone knows a way to reduce the power consumption without disabling the account? Some of the advanced options I don't really know what they do. It's really a shame because I was so pleased to finally have found a mobile sip client that really works. Any suggestions are appreciated. best, /henrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 power consumption
Am Montag, den 26.04.2010, 09:18 +0100 schrieb Bernard Tyers: Unless a newer firmware is available, don't upgrade to 3.2010.02-8. I have found since I upgraded my battery life has gone from 1 1/2 days to about 7-8 hours. ...while for others 3.2010.02-8 has increased battery life. I don't think that such generic statements are helpful without providing some basic info (what does that time refer to? Being online? Heavy usage or idling? IM accounts activated? Extra software installed? etc etc). andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 power consumption
- Original message - Am Montag, den 26.04.2010, 09:18 +0100 schrieb Bernard Tyers: Unless a newer firmware is available, don't upgrade to 3.2010.02-8. I have found since I upgraded my battery life has gone from 1 1/2 days to about 7-8 hours. ...while for others 3.2010.02-8 has increased battery life. I don't think that such generic statements are helpful without providing some basic info (what does that time refer to? Being online? Heavy usage or idling? IM accounts activated? Extra software installed? etc etc). That time refers to unplugging device from charger at 7-8AM and having battery go down approx to half way by lunchtime. I measure a day as 24 hours. Most of the day when I am in the office it is connected to work wifi to receive mail. When at work it is idling on wifi. By afternoon if I do not charge it, the device will be dead by approx 6-7PM. If I am at home I use it to read rss feeds, and make calls. When at work it is idling on wifi. * Phone ALWAYS on 2G, unless I want to download something via cellular network. * No more softwae installed than before upgrade. * exact same IM accounts/SIP acount usage as before. After the upgrade I reconfigured all settings/parameters for maximum power saving as they were wiped when the upgrade finished. At the weekend I use my E71 and joikuspot to share 3G access to the n900. By 6-7PM since 10-11AM the battery is almost empty. (This is understandable) I don't make statements like that without testing extensively. Bernard ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 power consumption - particularly on SIP VoIP
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: [Henrik Frisk Mi 21. April 2010]: But to my surprise, the biggest power hog was the sip account. When I disabled it my up-time was more reasonable. Anyone knows a way to reduce the power consumption without disabling the account? Some of the advanced options I don't really know what they do. It's really a shame because I was so pleased to finally have found a mobile sip client that really works. Any suggestions are appreciated. Hi Henrik, as usual the main battery energy leak in *idle* is 3G TX (and to a lower degree 2(.5)G as well). TX occurs for each bit of data sent upstream to the internet including TCP ACK for downstream TCP data. So a SIP user agent *may* idle completely for hours, just waiting for an inbound call. But usually you see TX activity caused by re-registrations, NAT keep-alive pkgs, MWI notification, propagation of own online status, updating online status of contacts(!), STUN, hosted NAT traversal, and even arbitrary bogus data packages inbound to port 5060 or the RTP ports. Alas there's relatively little you can do about this, as most of the issues depend on your SIP registrar's and your GSM/UMTS provider's config of their services. You could install SIP Swiss army knife User Agent twinkle [1] - probably to your PC as regrettably there's no N900 or even ARM version I'd know of - tether N900 to PC to use the 3G of your provider, and then try if you find some better settings for the 512 knobs and dials you can tweak SIP with. Things like changing port from 5060 to a value not associated to SIP come to mind, as it's even possible your carrier isn't interested that much in a working SIP over his network. If you're really going to dive into that, feel free to ping me on IRC [2], I might still be able to walk you through twinkle's various functions and settings, and help create and interpret decent twinkle logs. FWIW: My SIP account at sipgate.de seems to work relatively flawless, though I never thoroughly tested the maximum battery endurance when connected strictly via 3G only. Thanks for this very helpful information. It seems to help if I allow my N900 to switch to selected WiFi netwworks when available. Also, I wonder what the N900 SIP account settings Keep.alive-mechanism and Keep-alive-period and the switchable Automatic STUN detection may do to the power consumption. The fact that your SIP account appears to work well without draining the battery suggests that this is an issue that may be resolved by tweaking the settings, (or, as was suggested in another reply, a new firmware. What's your firmware Joerg?) Also, I shoud point out that the SIP client works excellent, the only problem is it's draining the battery. Thanks, /Henrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 power consumption
On 26 April 2010 10:01, Bernard Tyers b...@runningwithbulls.com wrote: If I am at home I use it to read rss feeds, and make calls. When at work it is idling on wifi. * Phone ALWAYS on 2G, unless I want to download something via cellular network. * No more softwae installed than before upgrade. * exact same IM accounts/SIP acount usage as before. After the upgrade I reconfigured all settings/parameters for maximum power saving as they were wiped when the upgrade finished. When your N900 is idling, fire up top (preferably via ssh session) and see whether pulseaudio is constantly eating 2-5% of CPU. If so, run killall tongend as root. This is a bug fixed in PR1.2 (afaik) which seems to be launched sometime between today and the next decade. Also, BatteryGraph application from extras(-testing?) helps debugging battery usage a lot. From what I found, the *greatest* *ever* battery hog is browsing web via 3G. I do that daily while commuting to/from work and it can take up to 40-50% of battery within less than an hour! -- Dawid 'evad' Lorenz * http://adl.pl null://google 'no evil' mail has taken away my random signatures ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 power consumption
ext Bernard Tyers wrote: If I am at home I use it to read rss feeds, and make calls. When at work it is idling on wifi. It would be interesting to know if it supports power save. Even if you have not changed anything, in the environment where the N900 lives, setup conditions different from the expected ones (and I believe our testing is done with AP with power-save enabled) might give interesting results. Like this one. igor ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 power consumption
- Original message - ext Bernard Tyers wrote: If I am at home I use it to read rss feeds, and make calls. When at work it is idling on wifi. It would be interesting to know if it supports power save. Are you asking about the wifi ap? I'll check and see if that is the case. That doesn't help though if I am in the wild using a public wifi spot. Even if you have not changed anything, in the environment where the N900 lives, setup conditions different from the expected ones (and I believe our testing is done with AP with power-save enabled) might give interesting results. Like this one. Agreed. My only real issue is with the power management of this device. I understand installing non-power optimised software will likely cause issues, but this is no help when some issues are device related. Other than power, this is an excellent device. Bernard ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 power consumption
When your N900 is idling, fire up top (preferably via ssh session) and see whether pulseaudio is constantly eating 2-5% of CPU. If so, run killall tongend as root. This is a bug fixed in PR1.2 (afaik) which seems to be launched sometime between today and the next decade. I had a look at top and /usr/bin/pulseaudio --system --high-priority seems to be running constantly, at around 0.2 (when idle) to approx. 32.2% cpu (when making a call). Trying to killall tongend gives response: killall: tongend: no process killed. This is right, as the /usr/bin/tongend process ID is the same after the kill command as before it. Also, BatteryGraph application from extras(-testing?) helps debugging battery usage a lot. I've used it and I don't find it too useful, unless I do nothing for that time. From what I found, the *greatest* *ever* battery hog is browsing web via 3G. I do that daily while commuting to/from work and it can take up to 40-50% of battery within less than an hour! Not my case, as I do little browsing with 3G (only if I am out of wifi coverage). Thanks, Bernard ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 power consumption
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 12:10 +0100, Bernard Tyers wrote: When your N900 is idling, fire up top (preferably via ssh session) and see whether pulseaudio is constantly eating 2-5% of CPU. If so, run killall tongend as root. This is a bug fixed in PR1.2 (afaik) which seems to be launched sometime between today and the next decade. I had a look at top and /usr/bin/pulseaudio --system --high-priority seems to be running constantly, at around 0.2 (when idle) to approx. 32.2% cpu (when making a call). Non-0 usage when idling probably means you're suffering from the tonegend bug or a similar one. Trying to killall tongend gives response: killall: tongend: no process killed. This is right, as the /usr/bin/tongend process ID is the same after the kill command as before it. There's a typo, should be 'killall tonegend' (first 'e' was missing). -- Earthling Michel Dänzer |http://www.vmware.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N900 power consumption
On 26 April 2010 12:10, Bernard Tyers b...@runningwithbulls.com wrote: I had a look at top and /usr/bin/pulseaudio --system --high-priority seems to be running constantly, at around 0.2 (when idle) to approx. 32.2% cpu (when making a call). CPU usage when making a call is valid. I meant pulseaudio constantly taking approx. 2-5% CPU time when device is completely idle, even with screen off. Oh, found it: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6868 Trying to killall tongend gives response: killall: tongend: no process killed. This is right, as the /usr/bin/tongend process ID is the same after the kill command as before it. As Michel pointed - there was a typo, I should say 'tonegend'. Also, BatteryGraph application from extras(-testing?) helps debugging battery usage a lot. I've used it and I don't find it too useful, unless I do nothing for that time. It helps finding which usage patterns are the most battery-hungry and gives indication of some dodgy background action (like tonegend above) eating battery when device is supposedly idle. But that's only my personal preference, I guess. All in all, I definitely concur that one of N900's worst gripes is power management (or lack of thereof) and getting out without a charger at hand for more than 1 day should be considered a crime. ;) -- Dawid 'evad' Lorenz * http://adl.pl null://google 'no evil' mail has taken away my random signatures ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: how memory management mechanism of maemo, where can I find information?
i'm actually just doing a job in college well, if I wanted to know where to find information about operation of the architecture, including memory management ie wanted to know how to read the maemo maximize memory management and gain relative to symbian too. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.comwrote: Hi, Am Sonntag, den 25.04.2010, 23:46 -0300 schrieb Rafael Rocha: hi everybody, I am now just studying how memory management mechanism of maemo, where can I find information? Can you please be a bit more specific, or describe what you plan to do? Makes it more likely to get an answer... Thanks, andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N900 power usage entrail reading skills (aka powertop output)
I get the feeling that my N900 eats through its battery quicker than it used to. I'm not sure when it started, maybe when I upgraded to RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8_PR_MR0 firmware? It could very well be some app's fault. Here's what powertop says. Note that the CPU is spending almost 100% time at 500 MHz. Any clues? The word 'mmc' shows up quite a lot and pretty high up, but what could be causing all that IO, if that's IO I'm seeing? top is not very informative; the highest-CPU-using process is 'top' itself at 1.5%. iotop doesn't run on Maemo (Linux = 2.6.20 with I/O accounting support: Not found) Powertop 1.13.3 status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon Sleeping for 11 seconds before sampling Collecting data for 30 seconds Sample interval was 00m 30s 9217us C# | Ratio | Avg/dura | Frequency | Ratio ++--+---++ C0 | 43.3% | | 600 MHz | 3.1% | C1 | 4.6% |0.5ms | 550 MHz | 0.0% | C2 | 45.2% |4.7ms | 500 MHz | 96.4% | C3 | 6.8% | 19.1ms | 250 MHz | 0.5% | C4 | 0.0% | | IRQ#| Activity | Type | Name +++--- 12 | 7410 | INTC | DMA 86 | 5456 | INTC | mmc1 37 | 2433 | INTC | gp 11 |611 | INTC | prcm 56 | 90 | INTC | i2c_omap 57 | 43 | INTC | i2c_omap 202 | 19 | GPIO | wl1251 PID#| Activity | Name | Function Entry (Expire) +++--- 0 | 2365 | kernel core | tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick (tick_sched_timer) 492 |192 | mmcqd | cfq_completed_request (cfq_idle_slice_timer) 37 | 94D|awk | cpufreq_governor_dbs (delayed_work_timer_fn) 1087 | 30 | hildon-desktop | schedule_hrtimeout_range (hrtimer_wakeup) 492 | 22 | mmcqd | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn) 464 | 12 | wl12xx | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 464 | 12 | wl12xx | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn) 1370 | 11 |hildon-thumbnai | blk_plug_device (blk_unplug_timeout) 25268 | 10 |skyhost | futex_wait (hrtimer_wakeup) 25262 | 8 |skyhost | do_nanosleep (hrtimer_wakeup) 706 | 8 | bme_RX-51 | sys_timer_settime (posix_timer_fn) 0 | 7 | kernel core | hrtimer_start (tick_sched_timer) 29 | 6 | mount | setup_wb_timer (wb_timer_fn) 464 | 4 | wl12xx | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 1140 | 4 | wlancond | ieee80211_ioctl_siwpower (ieee80211_dynamic_ps_timer) 747 | 4 | avahi-daemon | schedule_hrtimeout_range (hrtimer_wakeup) 686 | 3 | dsme | do_nanosleep (hrtimer_wakeup) 686 | 3 | dsme | __enqueue_rt_entity (sched_rt_period_timer) 17887 | 3 |pdflush | blk_plug_device (blk_unplug_timeout) 15 | 3 |kswapd0 | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 0 | 2 | kernel core | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn) 706 | 2 | bme_RX-51 | do_nanosleep (hrtimer_wakeup) 706 | 2 | bme_RX-51 | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 10 | 2 |omap2_mcspi | neigh_add_timer (neigh_timer_handler) 1 | 2D| kernel core | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn) 1370 | 2 |hildon-thumbnai | journal_get_write_access (commit_timeout) 1584 | 2 | FBReader | schedule_hrtimeout_range (hrtimer_wakeup) 25477 | 1 | sshd | sk_reset_timer (tcp_write_timer) 706 | 1 | bme_RX-51 | sys_timer_settime (posix_timer_fn) 1097 | 1 |e-addressbook-f | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 1370 | 1 |hildon-thumbnai | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 17887 | 1 |pdflush | journal_get_write_access (commit_timeout) 1 | 1 | kernel core | inet_initpeers (peer_check_expire) 716 | 1 |dbus-daemon | schedule_hrtimeout_range (hrtimer_wakeup) 927 | 1 |dbus-daemon | schedule_hrtimeout_range (hrtimer_wakeup) 25557 | 1 | powertop | do_nanosleep (hrtimer_wakeup) Power domain activity breakdown Domain | % of time spent in states +-+-+-+-+-- usbhost |OFF: 100%|RET: 0%|INA: 0%| ON: 0%| now:(OFF) sgx |OFF: 100%|RET: 0%|INA: 0%| ON: 0%| now:(OFF) per |OFF: 0%|RET: 51%|INA: 0%| ON: 48%| now:(ON) dss |OFF: 100%|RET: 0%|INA: 0%| ON: 0%| now:(OFF) cam |OFF: 100%|RET: 0%|INA: 0%| ON: 0%| now:(OFF) core |OFF: 0%|RET: 0%|INA: 0%| ON: 100%| now:(ON) neon |OFF:
Re: N900 power usage entrail reading skills (aka powertop output)
Hi, On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt wrote: I get the feeling that my N900 eats through its battery quicker than it used to. I'm not sure when it started, maybe when I upgraded to RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8_PR_MR0 firmware? It could very well be some app's fault. I have seen this happen on a couple of occasions. Restarting hildon-desktop (killall hildon-desktop) seems to resolve it. Here's what powertop says. Note that the CPU is spending almost 100% time at 500 MHz. Any clues? The word 'mmc' shows up quite a lot and pretty high up, but what could be causing all that IO, if that's IO I'm seeing? top is not very informative; the highest-CPU-using process is 'top' itself at 1.5%. iotop doesn't run on Maemo (Linux = 2.6.20 with I/O accounting support: Not found) Powertop 1.13.3 status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon Sleeping for 11 seconds before sampling Collecting data for 30 seconds Sample interval was 00m 30s 9217us C# | Ratio | Avg/dura | Frequency | Ratio ++--+---++ C0 | 43.3% | | 600 MHz | 3.1% | C1 | 4.6% | 0.5ms | 550 MHz | 0.0% | C2 | 45.2% | 4.7ms | 500 MHz | 96.4% | C3 | 6.8% | 19.1ms | 250 MHz | 0.5% | C4 | 0.0% | | IRQ# | Activity | Type | Name +++--- 12 | 7410 | INTC | DMA 86 | 5456 | INTC | mmc1 37 | 2433 | INTC | gp 11 | 611 | INTC | prcm 56 | 90 | INTC | i2c_omap 57 | 43 | INTC | i2c_omap 202 | 19 | GPIO | wl1251 PID# | Activity | Name | Function Entry (Expire) +++--- 0 | 2365 | kernel core | tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick (tick_sched_timer) 492 | 192 | mmcqd | cfq_completed_request (cfq_idle_slice_timer) 37 | 94D| awk | cpufreq_governor_dbs (delayed_work_timer_fn) 1087 | 30 | hildon-desktop | schedule_hrtimeout_range (hrtimer_wakeup) 492 | 22 | mmcqd | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn) 464 | 12 | wl12xx | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 464 | 12 | wl12xx | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn) 1370 | 11 |hildon-thumbnai | blk_plug_device (blk_unplug_timeout) 25268 | 10 | skyhost | futex_wait (hrtimer_wakeup) 25262 | 8 | skyhost | do_nanosleep (hrtimer_wakeup) 706 | 8 | bme_RX-51 | sys_timer_settime (posix_timer_fn) 0 | 7 | kernel core | hrtimer_start (tick_sched_timer) 29 | 6 | mount | setup_wb_timer (wb_timer_fn) 464 | 4 | wl12xx | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 1140 | 4 | wlancond | ieee80211_ioctl_siwpower (ieee80211_dynamic_ps_timer) 747 | 4 | avahi-daemon | schedule_hrtimeout_range (hrtimer_wakeup) 686 | 3 | dsme | do_nanosleep (hrtimer_wakeup) 686 | 3 | dsme | __enqueue_rt_entity (sched_rt_period_timer) 17887 | 3 | pdflush | blk_plug_device (blk_unplug_timeout) 15 | 3 | kswapd0 | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 0 | 2 | kernel core | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn) 706 | 2 | bme_RX-51 | do_nanosleep (hrtimer_wakeup) 706 | 2 | bme_RX-51 | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 10 | 2 | omap2_mcspi | neigh_add_timer (neigh_timer_handler) 1 | 2D| kernel core | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn) 1370 | 2 |hildon-thumbnai | journal_get_write_access (commit_timeout) 1584 | 2 | FBReader | schedule_hrtimeout_range (hrtimer_wakeup) 25477 | 1 | sshd | sk_reset_timer (tcp_write_timer) 706 | 1 | bme_RX-51 | sys_timer_settime (posix_timer_fn) 1097 | 1 |e-addressbook-f | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 1370 | 1 |hildon-thumbnai | schedule_timeout (process_timeout) 17887 | 1 | pdflush | journal_get_write_access (commit_timeout) 1 | 1 | kernel core | inet_initpeers (peer_check_expire) 716 | 1 | dbus-daemon | schedule_hrtimeout_range (hrtimer_wakeup) 927 | 1 | dbus-daemon | schedule_hrtimeout_range (hrtimer_wakeup) 25557 | 1 | powertop | do_nanosleep (hrtimer_wakeup) Power domain activity breakdown Domain | % of time spent in states +-+-+-+-+-- usbhost |OFF: 100%|RET: 0%|INA: 0%| ON: 0%| now:(OFF) sgx |OFF: 100%|RET: 0%|INA: 0%| ON: 0%| now:(OFF) per |OFF:
Re: N900 power consumption
I found quite the opposite. My battery life went from ~16 hours to ~26 hours when 3.2010.02 hit. It was the one noticeable change on the device from the update. :) And yes, I have a very similar setup. It's on wifi at home and work, and on 2.5G when not on Wifi. I have the IM plugin enabled and am constantly on-line, do moderate web surfing at times (usually on wifi), and occasional mp3 playing. I've also seen a major increase with the new over-clock kernels, which I tweaked and played with a bit. The main set(s) have simple branches that are low voltage or ultra-low voltage. Even if you don't overclock (Titan's kernels by default are the standard 250-600 range), just using the newer kernels can increase device life quite a bit. Since I put in the lv kernel set (oc set to 250-900) I've been seeing average battery levels at 50% or so most nights, and have had an actual up-time of over 40 hours between charges a couple times now over weekend trips. Personally I'm more surprised that these devices can last as long as they do on the battery they have. Most people would love to get a few hours out of a laptop while web browsing. Why do you expect a device with as much power as a laptop to last longer just because it has a GSM chip in it? Admittedly, my last cell phone had an up time of 2 or 3 days between charges, but that's all it really did. If I ran J2ME apps on it, that life cut down to a day or less quick. I'm pleased as punch that I can IM, text, browse a bit, enter calendar items, etc, and still have any juice left at all at the end of the day. :) Bernard Tyers b...@runningwithbulls.com wrote: = Unless a newer firmware is available, don't upgrade to 3.2010.02-8. I have found since I upgraded my battery life has gone from 1 1/2 days to about 7-8 hours. Hope that helps, Bernard - Original message - Hi Adrian, I haven't updated my firmware since I received the unit so probably no. I will try that. Does it affect the power management? /h On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Adrian Yanes de...@ayanes.com wrote: Hi Henrik, Do you have the latest firmware version? On 22 April 2010 00:27, Henrik Frisk fris...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, After a few weeks of usage my up time before the battery was completely drained was less than 7 hours (during this time the unit was idle; completely unused). I started disabling services following the suggestions in some of the other threads discussing battery duration. Widgets, skype, they all went. But to my surprise, the biggest power hog was the sip account. When I disabled it my up-time was more reasonable. Anyone knows a way to reduce the power consumption without disabling the account? Some of the advanced options I don't really know what they do. It's really a shame because I was so pleased to finally have found a mobile sip client that really works. Any suggestions are appreciated. best, /henrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
