RE: SQLite
Here are the steps I used to compile/install SQLite onto my 810: 1. Got scratchbox up-and-running. 2. Under my user directory (logged in to scratchbox), created a directory called tmp. Then got out of scratchbox. 3. Went to sqlite.org ( http://www.sqlite.org/download.html ) and downloaded the tarball of the complete source tree (sqlite-3 6 8-tar.gz) - or whatever version is current. 4. Outside of scratchbox, I copied this file to the tmp directory I created. 5. Back inside scratchbox, I unzipped/untared the file (this creates a new sqlite directory). 6. Changed to the directory and compiled, ran make, and make install according to the README. 7. Located where make install put the files and the permissions then put those files onto my 810, ran chmod +x on all and chown. Here are the locations and ownerships: /usr/local/bin/sqlite executableuser:users /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib (same files) libsqlite3.aroot:staff libsqlite3.la root:staff libsqlite3.so - libsqlite3.so.0.8.6root:staff libsqlite3.so.0 - libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff libsqlite3.so.0.8.6 root:staff 8. Tested it on books.db (listing of my library). :-) 8. cd /usr/bin 9. ln -s /usr/local/bin/sqlite3.dat sqlite3 (creates a link) Now you just call sqlite3 from wherever and you're up-and-running. Regards, Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Demetris Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 10:26 PM Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: SQLite Hi all, I was able to install and run mySQL on both the N800 and N810 fairly easy. I want to also test out the SQLite - I download the binaries for it from the SQLite site (http://www.sqlite.org/sqlite3-3.6.22.bin.gz), chmod on it to x, and launch but it fails - meaning it is not actiing as a binary for Linux. Any ideas or any links to SQLite software for Diablo? Thanks very much ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: maemo-control-usb on N810
Come on, there has to be someone with a N810 who has/had the maemo-control-USB installed who has encountered this problem and has a fix or who can provide a functional suggestion. :-) This looks like a good way to access the Internet from a wired device and considering I travel a lot and I'm pretty much tethered to my N810, could solve some challenges. Again, in advance, THANKS! Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 2:36 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: maemo-control-usb on N810 I installed maemo-control-usb and tried it out and it doesn't work, i.e. no network connection. When I try to configure it I get the error, Module insertion has failed. Can anyone help with this? I've powered my N810 down then back up - no change (I haven't removed the battery yet). I appreciate any help anyone can provide. In advance, THANKS! :-) Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
maemo-control-usb on N810
I installed maemo-control-usb and tried it out and it doesn't work, i.e. no network connection. When I try to configure it I get the error, Module insertion has failed. Can anyone help with this? I've powered my N810 down then back up - no change (I haven't removed the battery yet). I appreciate any help anyone can provide. In advance, THANKS! :-) Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Forced Upgrade to N900 from N810
I'd go to sqlite.com and download/compile the latest version then move it to your 810 and/or 900 which is what I did. SQLite3 is an excellent embedded DB. I don't know about sqlite3 on the 900 but on the 810 it isn't complete and it's old. Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Dieter Plaetinck Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:23 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Forced Upgrade to N900 from N810 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:18:28 + Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie wrote: Presumably as it's an SQLite file, there must be a GUI or CL interface to let me open the database and delete from table where date20081231 or something. Do you have pointers to something suitable? n900's come with the sqlite3 commandline program by default. it's an easy program :) Dieter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Forced Upgrade to N900 from N810
BTW, I errored - it's sqlite.org. The current version is 3.6.22 and I believe I'm running 3.6.16 (or 18). I'm glad to hear it's fully functional on the 900. :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Aldon Hynes Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:44 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: RE: Forced Upgrade to N900 from N810 SQLite3 on the N900 is 3.6.14 I haven't checked to verify that it is complete, but it has worked really nicely for everything I'm using it for. It is worth noting that the database that keeps tracks of calls and SMS messages on the N900 is sqlite3 For more info on this check #N900 mbarcode, python, SMS and sqlite3 http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/3896 Aldon -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org]on Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:42 AM To: 'Dieter Plaetinck'; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: RE: Forced Upgrade to N900 from N810 I'd go to sqlite.com and download/compile the latest version then move it to your 810 and/or 900 which is what I did. SQLite3 is an excellent embedded DB. I don't know about sqlite3 on the 900 but on the 810 it isn't complete and it's old. Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Dieter Plaetinck Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:23 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Forced Upgrade to N900 from N810 On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:18:28 + Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie wrote: Presumably as it's an SQLite file, there must be a GUI or CL interface to let me open the database and delete from table where date20081231 or something. Do you have pointers to something suitable? n900's come with the sqlite3 commandline program by default. it's an easy program :) Dieter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Auto Shut Off of 810
It was the battery. I tried a couple of cheapie batteries then went to a Nokia battery. Problem went away so I'm a happy camper and didn't have to reflash. :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Xavier Bestel Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 10:02 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Auto Shut Off of 810 Jonathan Hudson: I had a problem on the N800 rebooting frequently on charger. Eventually, I discovered it was one particular charger, charging from an alternate charger or a USB charger gave a stable machine. Jean-Christian de Rivaz: I have observed the same things with my N810 too. The problem go more end more worse with the time, to the point where it reboot every 3 to 5 minutes. I then inspected the battery and see that it shape is not completely flat anymore but have some difference in the height of his main surfaces. It's very noticeable by passing the finger along the surface. I have buy a new battery and then my N810 work now like a new one. Mark: It's part of the instability of the OS. If it's been a long time since you've reflashed and/or have lots of apps and data installed it will do that. A clean reflash will probably fix it. I haven't been able to identify any particular app as a culprit. I recently reflashed my N800 that was having that and other power issues (as well as some other even more serious ones), and it's working fine now. This time around I'm only reinstalling the apps I use a lot, although some of the idiotic dependency issues are forcing the install of some things I don't want or need... How nice .. 1 problem, 3 different causes and solutions :) Xav ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: N900/Maemo 5 review
One thing concerns me based upon earlier reviews - it appears that the size of the screen will be smaller. That may not be a big issue as it appears from the pictures that Nokia is utilizing the space better than the 810. Only time will tell. It also looks like they've added capabilities (such as tasks and calendar) that didn't exist before. I'm hoping that they've added the ability to select 12/24-hour time. Lastly, having built in phone and wireless will be a good thing. Now, if ATT has the N900 when it comes out I'll be set. If not, I'll keep using my N810. :-) Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: N900/Maemo 5 review
Unlocked would be good and would, I suspect, resolve the issue. Thanks! Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:14 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: N900/Maemo 5 review Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Now, if ATT has the N900 when it comes out I'll be set. If not, I'll keep using my N810. :-) My guess is that -- like their other mobile phone products -- if you buy direct from Nokia it won't be carrier locked. -Gary ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: N900/Maemo 5 review
Nope. Won't run and won't be available. Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:39 PM To: maemo-users users; maemo-commun...@maemo.org Subject: Re: N900/Maemo 5 review Is there any chance that the new OS for the N900 would run or be available for the N8x0 crowd? This seems similar to the relationship of the Apple iTouch to the iPhone where they can both run the same OS, just one is missing the phone and other minor features. -- Scott Novice user of a dusty n810 On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:15 AM, Eugene Antimirov wrote: Hi everyone! I'm sure all of you are eager to look at the newest N900. Here is the first review of the device by Eldar Murtazin, Russian mobile columnist. In English - http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-rx51-n900-en.shtml Russian version - http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-rx51-n900.shtml Enjoy ;) -- Sincerely, Eugene ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Skype or Gizmo
I've chosen Gizmo based upon Skype's licensing agreement - read it carefully. Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of COURTAUD Didier Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 2:14 AM To: maemo users Subject: Skype or Gizmo Hi all I would want to configure my N810 tablet pour SIP calls. But i wonder what is the best SIP client : Skype or Gizmo ? In terms of usability, openness and ... free ? Thanks by advance for your answers DC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: omweather failure
Ditto, installed the update last night and all is good. Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of sean Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:59 PM To: Peter Flynn Cc: maemo-users Subject: Re: omweather failure Peter Flynn wrote: Suddely, omweather on my N800 has started popping up messages saying the location cannot be found or the zip code is wrong. It's been working just fine for weeks since the last upgrade, and I have it configured for about 15 locations that I commonly visit, including a couple that I added to the database and rebuilt -- but which it has accepted perfectly happily until now. Has the Weather Channel changed its feed URI recently? ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users There is a new version, the upgrade cured the problem for me. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: dictionary applet
Yes, Whitestork. It is Hildonized. Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Alexandru Cardaniuc Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:55 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: dictionary applet Hi All! I installed dict and it works fine in x-term. Is there an applet to put on the desktop like gnome-dictionary-applet that is available for Gnome. It would be nice to check the words on the desktop without firing up x-term. Perhaps, a new search option in the search applet would be nice (dict, besides google and wikipedia). -- A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. - Ancient Proverb ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: dictionary applet
Yes, it is mdictionary. Nick. From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Bob Crawford Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 6:36 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: dictionary applet Yes, Whitestork. It is Hildonized. I can't seem to find it in the extra repositories. It's not there? It has apparently been renamed 'mdictionary'. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Dictionary
There are a few sites that provide xdxf dictionaries. This is where I go: http://xdxf.revdanica.com/down/ Regards, Nick. From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Randall Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:19 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Dictionary Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: I have a few dictionaries loaded and running just fine. It is true that the English dictionary that comes with Whitestork doesn't work; however, there are many dictionaries you can download/install. For example, I have three selected: Merriam-Webster Collegiate, English synonyms, and bookmarks. They work fine. I also have, for when I travel, Spanish dictionaries. Regards, Nick. Where did you find them - every dictionary I find doesn't work. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Andre Klapper Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:48 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: RE: Dictionary Am Freitag, den 26.06.2009, 00:09 +0200 schrieb Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni: Where is the best place to submit this bug? Go to https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mdictionary/ and click Bugs. andre ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Rumor mill: Maemo 5 device
I didn't write that. I believe that was in response to what I did write. :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:40 PM To: maemo-users Subject: Re: Rumor mill: Maemo 5 device On 6/25/09, Jean-Christian de Rivaz j...@eclis.ch wrote: Dr. Nicholas Shaw a écrit : and a new task switching schema that allow the applications the be all the time full screen is also a very good point to efficiently use the screen. Actually, that already exists: press the Home button (bottom button on the front left side on the N800) while any application is full screen and a list of open apps pops up. Just click on the one you want to switch to. You can also close any of the apps in the list by clicking its X. I just tested with 6 open apps and it works fine, it just adds scroll buttons. Mark (Written on my N800 2500 miles from home.) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Dictionary
I have a few dictionaries loaded and running just fine. It is true that the English dictionary that comes with Whitestork doesn't work; however, there are many dictionaries you can download/install. For example, I have three selected: Merriam-Webster Collegiate, English synonyms, and bookmarks. They work fine. I also have, for when I travel, Spanish dictionaries. Regards, Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Andre Klapper Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:48 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: RE: Dictionary Am Freitag, den 26.06.2009, 00:09 +0200 schrieb Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni: Where is the best place to submit this bug? Go to https://garage.maemo.org/projects/mdictionary/ and click Bugs. andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Rumor mill: Maemo 5 device
From my perspective, I have no problems combining as long as the screen size isn't reduced. I like a big screen for spreadsheets, etc. but don't want to get something as large as the Sony Vaio (which I bought for my wife). I currently have the N800 (bought it when it first came out) and N810 (which I bought around this time last year). I'm happy with the 810 but would consider something else if the Internet speed were faster, the processor faster, and there's more internal memory. Nick. From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Kevin T. Neely Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:17 PM To: Peter Flynn Cc: maemo-users Subject: Re: Rumor mill: Maemo 5 device On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie wrote: Mark wrote: Also, at this point regular cellular voice would be a requirement for me. I'd rather not. I already have a perfectly working phone, and I don't want to combine phone and PDA: you look such a prat trying to work a Many of the points made are good ones, but to each his own on this one. Personally, I am 100% behind convergence for my pocket devices. I don't want to carry more than one. I may look like a prat with my microphone-equipped earbuds plugged into my phone, but no more than any other person listening to music, or really anyone walking down the street with one hand held against their head. These days, those people look stranger to me than ones that have their hands free. ...but I strongly suspect that those leaked specs are all somebody's fantasy. I think the GPS and accelerometer probably are. I doubt it. The N810 already has GPS in it, and Nokia is shipping both of these items (and more) with devices that are fully subsidized. I wouldn't want the N900 to only come as a subsidized option, but I would like to see it in both subsdized (carrier-tied) models and fully open ones. Choice is always good. K -- In Vino Veritas http://rubbernecking.info ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Dictionary
I use mDictionary and it should meet your needs. There are plenty of available dictionaries. Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:49 AM To: Maemo users Subject: Dictionary Hi, do you know an alternative to StarDict? Something more hildonized? Also I would love to use the dict.tu-chemnitz.de German-English-Dictionary, which is released under GPL. I have a text-file (suitable for Ding) and a version prepared for dictd. Is there a dictd client for Maemo? Or if StarDict is the only usable tool at the moment, how can I convert a dictd-dictionary to a format that StarDict understands? Thanks, Keywan -- Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni http://www.prometoys.net peo...@world:/# apt-get --purge remove capitalism After unpacking world will be freed. You are about to do something potentially beneficial To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as We say!' ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Dictionary
Hmmm... I don't know how to address that but I did install it from the repository although it was back in October. Hopefully, someone can address it. Regards, Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:17 AM To: 'Maemo users' Subject: RE: Dictionary Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 25.06.2009, 09:22 -0600 schrieb Dr. Nicholas Shaw: I use mDictionary and it should meet your needs. There are plenty of available dictionaries. i tried to install it, but it wasn't in the repository. One click install failed with this error. Thanks, Keywan Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:49 AM To: Maemo users Subject: Dictionary Hi, do you know an alternative to StarDict? Something more hildonized? Also I would love to use the dict.tu-chemnitz.de German-English-Dictionary, which is released under GPL. I have a text-file (suitable for Ding) and a version prepared for dictd. Is there a dictd client for Maemo? Or if StarDict is the only usable tool at the moment, how can I convert a dictd-dictionary to a format that StarDict understands? Thanks, Keywan -- Keywan Najafi Tonekaboni http://www.prometoys.net peo...@world:/# apt-get --purge remove capitalism After unpacking world will be freed. You are about to do something potentially beneficial To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as We say!' ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: maemo.org excrutiatingly slow
Now THAT was funny! :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of Valerio Valerio Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:43 PM To: Maemo users Subject: Re: maemo.org excrutiatingly slow On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote: Why is maemo.org so incredibly slow? It's always been far slower than any other site I frequent, but lately it's just getting worse and worse. I don't have that problem with any other site, and it doesn't matter what machine or device I'm using to access it. The maemo.org server is a Nokia 770 :P Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Fuelpad: first impressions
To add to Marius' impressions: There are two basic calculation methods for fuel mileage programs: . Use the odometer . Use miles travelled (no odometer) I like the latter because there are many occasions when I don't calculate fuel (for whatever reason). Thus, calculating based upon how many miles I drive on a tank divided by how many gallons I put in the tank gives me a good MPG. Fuelpad will do this but it's a workaround, e.g. you have to put the miles traveled in both mileage blocks and it will accurately provide you with your MPG for that tank. What it doesn't do, using this method, is give your average MPG since overall distance is your odometer reading from which Fuelpad automatically calculates distance (trip) from last fuel. Since overall MPG doesn't properly calculate using this method, I turn off information. What I would like to see is either/or, e.g. either use odometer and calculate distance (trip) or have the option to only enter miles travelled. This way it doesn't matter whether or not I miss entering data for a trip and those who do use the odometer method will still be happy. When entering data, it would be nice if Fuelpad would automatically go to the last entry versus having to scroll down to the last entry. I like the settings - well laid out and functional. I also like the ability to select what columns you want to display. Very nice. I like the ability to define where the database file will be stored (although I accept the default) and I like the auto save feature. Again, very nice! In comparison to Car Mileage Calculator, it has fewer bells and whistles but Car Mileage Calculator only calculates using the odometer method. You can enter a record that is out of sync with regards to the odometer but that means that fill up record will not be included until the next fill up. For example, when the odometer reads 21000 but I don't miss a few tanks (it happens) and the next time I fuel up the odometer reads 21600. Ok, so I start again but that new record won't be used until the next fill-up (example, fill up at 22000 with 14 gallons - that record won't be used until the next fill up as I've basically started a new set). So, in essence, the average will always be off (unless you never miss an entry). Regards, Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Two Updates with Issues
My apologies as I haven't gone in and checked the bug reports; just haven't had the time. So here's a quick e-mail on two: 1. x11vnc - the version I'm running is .9.3-1 and it works. There is an update (I'm running Diablo latest release) .9.3-4. I've installed this update and as soon as I do I get an error on screen. Go back to .0.3-1 - no problems. I've tried rebooting with -4 and it just doesn't work. 2. I was notified this past weekend that gpe updates were available; however, none install (well, that's not entirely correct - calendar, contacts, and to-do do not install saying that summary isn't installed). I installed summary and even rebooted without success. So, quick question on each - is anyone else having these problems? I'm on a tight release schedule so haven't had time to check but hope to have some free time sometime this week. Thanks, Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Abiword
Hmmm... Interesting. Abiword was in my catalog and is installed on my 810 (running Diablo). The current version is 2.6.4. I've had no problems. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Flynn Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:53 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Abiword What is the current status of Abiword for Diablo? Garage says it's 4-beta but doesn't provide any download links, and says there are no files associated with this project. Abiword's own site has no mention of it, and it's not in maemo.org/downloads Where should I be looking? ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Encryption
There was an encryption tool for OS2007 that would encrypt files and/or directories. Does anyone know if there's one for OS2008 (I checked the security section and did a search and found nothing)? I included maemo-developers in case something is in the works. Thanks! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: SQLite3 driving me nuts! Sqlite incapable
I've been looking for sqlite3 for months. I'm using Chinook. Good luck! Nick Shaw MAJ, US Army Retired IBA #11140 '02 Harley Road Glide Lifetime HOG member http://www.DocHarley.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. G. Newbury Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 23:08 To: Maemo Users Subject: SQLite3 driving me nuts! Sqlite incapable Does anyone know of a repositary which actually has all of the bits for sqlite3? N810 with diablo latest. The gronmayer site has the following: at reposiary.amemo.org diablo/sdk free site, libsqlite3-0 (v. 3.4.1-1osso3) libsqlite3-dev (v. 3.4.1-1osso3) *BUT NO SQLITE3* st debfarm chinook user libsqlite3-dev (v. 3.4.2-2) libsqlite3-tcl (v. 3.4.2-2) sqlite3 (v. 3.4.2-2) sqlite3-doc (v. 3.4.2-2) *BUT NO LIBSQLITE3-0* With debfarm enabled, the app manager sees the sqlite3-3.4.2-2 version but chokes on using the osso version of libsqlite3 Does anyone have a source for a libsqlite3-0 osso package? A quick google reveals a thread last January on internettablettalk which implies that such a library existed back then http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15583 Meanwhile posted logs at garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo have lines like: Get:5 http://osso.stage.dmz diablo/sdk/free libsqlite3-0 3.4.1-1osso3 [208kB] There is no site osso.stage.dmz and I have no idea what this could refer to. Anyone? ** Meanwhile, I can and have sqlite (version 2) installed on my N810, but of course, the database I want to use (created on my laptop) is in the incompatible version 3 format. And of course, sqlite version 2 does NOT have the .import FILE TABLE command which would allow me to export-transfer-import the data tables. And I do not want to revert to a long session with sed to create a file which I can use with .read file. Geoff -- Please let me know if anything I say offends you. I may wish to offend you again in the future. Tux says: Be regular. Eat cron flakes. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Keyboard Out
Has anyone else had the keyboard on the 810 just stop working? My 810 mostly sits on my desk so when I enter dates into the calendar, etc. I just use the on-screen keyboard. But when I'm using xterm, etc. I use the slide out keyboard. But it just doesn't work anymore. Any ideas (if none then I guess it's time to call Nokia support)? Thanks, Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Keyboard Out
Ok, for those who might have this problem in the future - try shutting down and removing the battery, wait about 10 seconds, then reinsert and boot up. That seems to have solved, for now, the problem. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 7:42 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Keyboard Out Has anyone else had the keyboard on the 810 just stop working? My 810 mostly sits on my desk so when I enter dates into the calendar, etc. I just use the on-screen keyboard. But when I'm using xterm, etc. I use the slide out keyboard. But it just doesn't work anymore. Any ideas (if none then I guess it's time to call Nokia support)? Thanks, Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Need C++ Compiler
Thanks, Frantisek, I'll give that a try! Nick. -Original Message- From: Frantisek Dufka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 01:26 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Need C++ Compiler Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Is anyone aware of a C++ (gnu) compiler for Chinook? Well, yes, it is directly in Maemo SDK repository. Something like 'apt-get install g++' should get it to scratchbox or directly to the device. I have it installed on my N810 and it works at least for simple iostream Hello World. See also http://repository.maemo.org/pool/chinook/free/g/gcc-3.4/ for full list of gcc packages. Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Hello World Example Fails
I saw the maemo C++ (cplusplus-env) in downloads but it didn't install (package not found). I enabled both maemo extras devel (Chinook) and maemo extras devel and it isn't in the catalog. Maybe you have a different catalog entry for these? Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cedric cellier Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 03:02 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Hello World Example Fails -[ Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 08:56:41AM -0600, Dr. Nicholas Shaw ] If I ever find a C++ compiler for Maemo (OS2008), I'll be able to do the work needed directly on the N810. It seems that might be awhile... :-( If you plan to compile directly on the n810 (true mobility with g++ on the go :-)) you should have a look on extra repositories from where you can apt-get gcc and, I think, g++ (application manager shows a maemo-cplusplus-device-env meta-package). ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Need C++ Compiler
I didn't think I'd get to it until later tonight but had to try it out. It worked! :-) For those interested, you'll need to become root (rootsh) and add /usr/sbin:/sbin to the path to install. The installation takes up ~12MB. If this didn't work then I was going to re-write the code into Python as I was able to install that on my 810 (now I can remove it). Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 08:09 To: 'Frantisek Dufka' Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: RE: Need C++ Compiler Thanks, Frantisek, I'll give that a try! Nick. -Original Message- From: Frantisek Dufka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 01:26 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Need C++ Compiler Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Is anyone aware of a C++ (gnu) compiler for Chinook? Well, yes, it is directly in Maemo SDK repository. Something like 'apt-get install g++' should get it to scratchbox or directly to the device. I have it installed on my N810 and it works at least for simple iostream Hello World. See also http://repository.maemo.org/pool/chinook/free/g/gcc-3.4/ for full list of gcc packages. Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: New 810 user - a few questions
Hi, Mike I can help you w/gnumeric. 1. Start application manager 2. Go to Tools from the pulldown menu 3. Select application catalog 4. Look for maemo-extras-devel and select edit 5. Uncheck disable and hit ok 6. Close the catalog and it should refresh You should now have gnumeric. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Sherman Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 15:25 To: maemo users Subject: New 810 user - a few questions Hello, I'm a new user. I just got an N810 not two days ago. One of the apps I really wanted is gnumeric spreadsheet. Now I see it in the OS2007 listing but not on the OS2008 list and it doesn't appear in the package manager. Can you run OS2007 apps on an OS2008 system, or does it have to be rebuilt for OS2008? Also, I installed the FM radio applet. It appears to work but no sound! Is there something that needs to be enabled? Thanks, -Mike in Cleveland, OH, USA Mike Sherman[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Need C++ Compiler
Is anyone aware of a C++ (gnu) compiler for Chinook? There was a compiler available for OS2007 but I haven't found one for Chinook (or any 2008 release). Thanks! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Need Some Scratchbox Help
Ok, I've installed (via other Linux process) scratchbox and ran run_me_first.sh. I've setup the sbox group and user and have run sb-menu. So I think I'm good to go. However, I need to compile/install sqlite3 on the 810 which requires a C++ compiler (I don't think the scratchbox will help here). Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Nick. From: Dr. Nicholas Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:35 To: 'Dr. Nicholas Shaw'; 'Maemo Users' Subject: RE: Need Some Scratchbox Help Sorry, one last piece of information. I went to /var/lib/apt/lists and here are the files relating to scratchbox: . Scratchbox.org_debian_dists_maemo4-sdk_Release . Scratchbox.org_debian_dists_maemo4-sdk_main_binary-i386_Packages Again, thanks! Nick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:32 To: 'Maemo Users' Subject: Need Some Scratchbox Help Good morning (where I am anyway) all! I'm running Debian 4R3. I went to Maemo.org/developers and downloaded/ran the scratchbox script according to the INSTALL.TXT. I'm installing Chinook as that is the version of 2008 I'm running. The install file is maemo-scratchbox-install_4.0.1.sh. As root, I ran chmod a+x on the file then ran it. It checks for prerequisites and states that everything seems to be ok. The script continues until it gets to Ign http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages where I receive an error 404 Not Found. The script continues until the next error, Failed to fetch http://scratchbox.org/debian/./Packages.gz http://scratchbox.org/debian/Packages.gz 404 Not Found followed by W: Couldn't stat source package list http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/scratchbox.org_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory). The last line recommended trying an alternative installation method. Ok, so I chose to install it manually. After downloading the appropriate files, I followed the instructions (http://scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/installdoc.htm l#AEN39). As root, I first added deb http://scratchbox.org/debian http://scratchbox.org/debian%20./ ./ to /etc/apt/sources.list. I then ran apt-get update. All seemed to be ok up to this point. I then ran apt-get install on the packages and failed on the same error as when I ran the install script. Any help will be greatly appreciated! And, in advance - THANK YOU! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Need C++ Compiler
Thanks, Matt. I think I'll hold off on that version as I don't want to kill the OS. Not just yet anyway... :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: Matt Emson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 09:59 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Need C++ Compiler Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: As Maemo doesn't use C++ that much (if at all?) you can probably use the gcc/g++ from Bora - however, libc and such will probably be an issue. I did have a go at getting it to work, but apt-get goes into a mad dependency spiral and kills the OS trying to downgrade the system to an earlier libC... M Is anyone aware of a C++ (gnu) compiler for Chinook? There was a compiler available for OS2007 but I haven't found one for Chinook (or any 2008 release). Thanks! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Hello World Example Fails
Ok, I DO have scratchbox up-and-running. Following the installdoc to test the new target, everything works up to generating the configure scripts, configuring the program, and generating its Makefile. It goes well until the step checking whether the C compiler works... There I get an error, error: cannot run C compiled programs. I'll continue to see what I can do to get it to work but would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Need Some Scratchbox Help
Denis, Did you install the binaries from sqlite.org? If so, which binaries (I didn't see any binaries for ARM devices)? If you got sqlite3 from somewhere else that has precompiled binaries, please share. I've had to compile from source on each version of Linux I've run. Thanks and I appreciate the help! Nick. From: Denis Dimick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:34 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: Maemo Users Subject: Re: Need Some Scratchbox Help If I recall correctly I had GCC installed before I built the toolchain and everything worked. I also just downloaded sqlite3 and used dep -i to install it, it works fine for me running Diablo. HtH, Denis On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I've installed (via other Linux process) scratchbox and ran run_me_first.sh. I've setup the sbox group and user and have run sb-menu. So I think I'm good to go. However, I need to compile/install sqlite3 on the 810 which requires a C++ compiler (I don't think the scratchbox will help here). Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Nick. From: Dr. Nicholas Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:35 To: 'Dr. Nicholas Shaw'; 'Maemo Users' Subject: RE: Need Some Scratchbox Help Sorry, one last piece of information. I went to /var/lib/apt/lists and here are the files relating to scratchbox: . Scratchbox.org_debian_dists_maemo4-sdk_Release . Scratchbox.org_debian_dists_maemo4-sdk_main_binary-i386_Packages Again, thanks! Nick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:32 To: 'Maemo Users' Subject: Need Some Scratchbox Help Good morning (where I am anyway) all! I'm running Debian 4R3. I went to Maemo.org/developers and downloaded/ran the scratchbox script according to the INSTALL.TXT. I'm installing Chinook as that is the version of 2008 I'm running. The install file is maemo-scratchbox-install_4.0.1.sh. As root, I ran chmod a+x on the file then ran it. It checks for prerequisites and states that everything seems to be ok. The script continues until it gets to Ign http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages where I receive an error 404 Not Found. The script continues until the next error, Failed to fetch http://scratchbox.org/debian/./Packages.gz http://scratchbox.org/debian/Packages.gz 404 Not Found followed by W: Couldn't stat source package list http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/scratchbox.org_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory). The last line recommended trying an alternative installation method. Ok, so I chose to install it manually. After downloading the appropriate files, I followed the instructions (http://scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/installdoc.htm l#AEN39). As root, I first added deb http://scratchbox.org/debian ./ http://scratchbox.org/debian%20./ to /etc/apt/sources.list. I then ran apt-get update. All seemed to be ok up to this point. I then ran apt-get install on the packages and failed on the same error as when I ran the install script. Any help will be greatly appreciated! And, in advance - THANK YOU! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Hello World Example Fails
Thanks, Graham - I'll do that next if what I'm doing doesn't work...
Yes, it was a ARMEL target. I did create a simple program and compiled it
using gcc - worked fine. I'm not re-installing the packages. At the very
least, I'll have real knowledge of the scratchbox after all this...
Nick.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Graham Cobb
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:18
To: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: Hello World Example Fails
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 18:53:36 Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:
Ok, I DO have scratchbox up-and-running. Following the installdoc to test
the new target, everything works up to generating the configure scripts,
configuring the program, and generating its Makefile. It goes well until
the step checking whether the C compiler works... There I get an error,
error: cannot run C compiled programs.
You might want to ask on the maemo-developers list -- more developers there.
Is this an ARMEL target or an I386 target? There are sometimes some
scratchbox problems with getting the armel targets to actually run armel
programs (which is what scratchbox is all about, of course). Most often
problems with not having scratchbox installed properly but, sometimes, bugs
in scratchbox, libc, etc.
configure should have created a config.log which might contain an error
message. You can also try creating a trivial C program, compiling it and
running it yourself to see if it works. The program configure uses is
(essentially):
int
main ()
{
;
return 0;
}
Graham
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RE: I've got n800 coming
Yes, I saw that AFTER I bought my 810 somewhere else. L But I wasn't about to send the unit back, wait to get another, and then spent the time configuring a new one. Congratulations! Nick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Treague Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 06:23 To: Maemo Users Subject: I've got n800 coming I have a n800 coming from best buy For $279 TigerDirect has a n810 for $299 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Need Some Scratchbox Help
Good morning (where I am anyway) all! I'm running Debian 4R3. I went to Maemo.org/developers and downloaded/ran the scratchbox script according to the INSTALL.TXT. I'm installing Chinook as that is the version of 2008 I'm running. The install file is maemo-scratchbox-install_4.0.1.sh. As root, I ran chmod a+x on the file then ran it. It checks for prerequisites and states that everything seems to be ok. The script continues until it gets to Ign http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages where I receive an error 404 Not Found. The script continues until the next error, Failed to fetch http://scratchbox.org/debian/./Packages.gz http://scratchbox.org/debian/Packages.gz 404 Not Found followed by W: Couldn't stat source package list http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/scratchbox.org_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory). The last line recommended trying an alternative installation method. Ok, so I chose to install it manually. After downloading the appropriate files, I followed the instructions (http://scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/installdoc.htm l#AEN39). As root, I first added deb http://scratchbox.org/debian http://scratchbox.org/debian%20./ ./ to /etc/apt/sources.list. I then ran apt-get update. All seemed to be ok up to this point. I then ran apt-get install on the packages and failed on the same error as when I ran the install script. Any help will be greatly appreciated! And, in advance - THANK YOU! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Need Some Scratchbox Help
Sorry, one last piece of information. I went to /var/lib/apt/lists and here are the files relating to scratchbox: . Scratchbox.org_debian_dists_maemo4-sdk_Release . Scratchbox.org_debian_dists_maemo4-sdk_main_binary-i386_Packages Again, thanks! Nick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:32 To: 'Maemo Users' Subject: Need Some Scratchbox Help Good morning (where I am anyway) all! I'm running Debian 4R3. I went to Maemo.org/developers and downloaded/ran the scratchbox script according to the INSTALL.TXT. I'm installing Chinook as that is the version of 2008 I'm running. The install file is maemo-scratchbox-install_4.0.1.sh. As root, I ran chmod a+x on the file then ran it. It checks for prerequisites and states that everything seems to be ok. The script continues until it gets to Ign http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages where I receive an error 404 Not Found. The script continues until the next error, Failed to fetch http://scratchbox.org/debian/./Packages.gz http://scratchbox.org/debian/Packages.gz 404 Not Found followed by W: Couldn't stat source package list http://scratchbox.org ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/scratchbox.org_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory). The last line recommended trying an alternative installation method. Ok, so I chose to install it manually. After downloading the appropriate files, I followed the instructions (http://scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/installdoc.htm l#AEN39). As root, I first added deb http://scratchbox.org/debian http://scratchbox.org/debian%20./ ./ to /etc/apt/sources.list. I then ran apt-get update. All seemed to be ok up to this point. I then ran apt-get install on the packages and failed on the same error as when I ran the install script. Any help will be greatly appreciated! And, in advance - THANK YOU! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better
John, I've had a N800 since they first came out (01/07). It's a great little device and I've been very pleased with it. Recently, however, it started to go south. I thought it was the battery but that does not appear to be the case so I went and purchased a N810 which I received yesterday. It took a few hours but everything is configured and works well. On to your question about which is better: 1. The N810 has a slide out keyboard while the N800 does not. Having a physical keyboard is nice but so, sometimes, is having a virtual keyboard especially when you have the device on its stand. 2. Most of the applications behave the same way using the same OS. I think the web cam is of higher quality on the N800 than the N810 from my testing last night. 3. The FM radio is listed as a download so I assume it will work on the N810 just as it did on the N800. 4. The buttons, at least so far, seem better placed on the N810 versus the N800. Regards, Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Holmblad Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:14 To: Jeff Treague Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better All, the N800 has an FM radio built in. I am not certain about whether or not the N810 has one. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeff Treague wrote: *The n800 or n810 this is what I know* 1. The web cam on the n800 moves-good. 2.the gps on the n810 is better than the n800. Dose gps work at all on the n800?3. I like to right and the n800 has the thum keyboard-I like that on the n770 4.the n810 has a bilt in key baord - I read that it was bad for big fingers. 5.I like Quiver Image Viewer use it all the time on n770-both the n800 the n810 can use it 6. how is wright on the n800 or n810 can you save fast and offen? 7.the n800 has two card insted of one-is this good the n810 has one card. A. The n800 one slot is hard to get to 8. n800 cost less 9. The softwere works the same This is what I fond out by looking around, which is better The Blacknight ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Need Some Basic Help
I have a program (C++) that uses SQLite3 (3.5.9) as the backend DB. I decided to move this from SUSE 10.3 where it compiles/runs without any issue to my Nokia N800 and N810 (should arrive today). To do that I installed a VMware guest running Debian 4R3 (latest release) and installed g++. I then copied the files (database (fuel.db), source code, header file (for sqlite), and make) to the new system and compiled it. If this worked then I was going to download/install the SDK and test it there. It compiled without issue but when I attempted to run it - error. The error I'm getting is: error while loading shared libraries: libsqlite3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. The file is located in /usr/local/lib. The make is a simple script: g++ -O -ogas -L/usr/libs -L/usr/local/lib -I/usr/libs -lsqlite3 gas.cpp I added the /usr/local/lib to correct the problem but without success. I also tried adding -I/usr/local/lib without success. This is a gas mileage program that, when completed, will eliminate one thing I need gnumeric for. It handles miles/litres so basically operates anywhere, user changeable. Any recommendations for fixing this? As you can see, I've tried directory and linker options without success. Again, everything works fine under SUSE 10.3. I'm also posting this to a Debian forum but figured I might as well increase my chances by posting here. :-) Thanks, Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Need Some Basic Help
Thanks, David - option 2 did the trick! Yes, libsqlite3.so.0 is located in /usr/local/lib but I didn't put it there. I downloaded the 3.5.9 source from sqlite.org (source code) and compiled/installed according to the README. Make install placed it there. I appreciate your help! I'm running sqlite3 and the sqlite0 file that is included with Debian 4R3 is release 2. Many thanks, Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Greaves Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:33 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Need Some Basic Help Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: I have a program (C++) that uses SQLite3 (3.5.9) as the backend DB. I decided to move this from SUSE 10.3 where it compiles/runs without any issue to my Nokia N800 and N810 (should arrive today). To do that I installed a VMware guest running Debian 4R3 (latest release) and installed g++. I then copied the files (database (fuel.db), source code, header file (for sqlite), and make) to the new system and compiled it. If this worked then I was going to download/install the SDK and test it there. It compiled without issue but when I attempted to run it - error. The error I'm getting is: error while loading shared libraries: libsqlite3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. The file is located in /usr/local/lib. I assume you mean libsqlite3.so.0 is located in /usr/local/lib because you copied it there (is it an ARM version?) This is a runtime issue. Two fixes: 1. Preferred. Install sqlite properly: apt-get install libsqlite0 2. OK, you're not going to do that: so dynamic library loading is controlled by /etc/ld.so.conf config file Add /usr/local/lib to the config file and re-run (as root) ldconfig Then when your app runs it'll find the dynamically loaded library. The make is a simple script: g++ -O -ogas -L/usr/libs -L/usr/local/lib -I/usr/libs -lsqlite3 gas.cpp I added the /usr/local/lib to correct the problem but without success. I also tried adding -I/usr/local/lib without success. Your compile is fine. David ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: maemo-pan in Diablo
Ditto here. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Wright Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:02 To: Patrik Flykt Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org; ext Frantisek Dufka Subject: Re: maemo-pan in Diablo Has there been any progress getting the stock maemo-pan fixed so that it works out of the box as it were? I want to upgrade my N800 to Diablo, but lack of PAN is a show-stopper for me. On Fri, June 27, 2008 13:52, Patrik Flykt wrote: Hi, On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 14:31 +0200, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: There was workaround before with seting up fake ad-hoc connection. Maybe it could be implemented with little tweaking (if current code depends only on IAP name, not type)? http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=196503#post19 6503 Oh, that setup most likely will still work, I hope. The idea is to enable the dummy network feature for icd2 and have it working as before, but unfortunately we discovered a minor bug in the process. Once that gets resolved, I hope we'll have the same dummy network functionality as before. Cheers, Patrik -- Patrik Flykt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users €€ €€€ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently
Mark, I went to the link and read it. I actually feel it is helpful. This week I submitted 4 bug reports for both software and the OS. The author stated his system was resetting and that he had lots of software installed. Obvious questions would be if there's any particular action that causes the system to reset or if it's random. What programs are running when the system resets, how often does it reset, etc. What was he doing when it reset? What software was installed? Of course I would also want to know what, specifically, he means by reset as some people have different definitions. Lastly (this is particular to me), I would want to know what he restored from his backups (if he had any) and from what OS did he go from. The link, IMO, provides helpful information to help flesh these out. I don't believe Igor meant anything else. The link is a good set of pointers for submitting a bug fix. My system might reset but that doesn't mean they're related. The only thing it indicates is that there are two people who have systems that are doing something (until a definition is agreed upon) that isn't good. Regards, Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 09:37 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html This is not helpful and in fact is inflammatory. When one has a problem with a device it is helpful to find out if others are having the same problem, and may have already solved it. If so, great. If no one else is having the same problem, then it's probably an installed app rather than the OS. Then one can start narrowing down suspects as to the cause. People have to start somewhere, and why should they duplicate efforts that others have already made, or go to great lengths to fix something that is impossible because it's a bug in the OS? RTFM is *never* an acceptable response. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently
Ooohh, that would be a good one. J Nick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denis Dimick Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently A a Flamewar, can we do Vi vers. Emacs next? Ducks and runs away.. Denis On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 10:57 -0600, ext Mark wrote: ... by RTFM-ing something that has nothing to do with the problem. I think the message do ut des was quite clear. Make an effort to explain your problem and you might be helped. End of transmission. -- Cheers, Igor --- Igor Stoppa Maemo Software - Nokia Devices RD - Helsinki ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)
It was there when I posted a bug with OS2008 yesterday and I used it. The template is a very good one - thanks, Igor. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Igor Stoppa Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 13:26 To: ext Kalle Valo Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently) On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 22:07 +0300, ext Kalle Valo wrote: Now that I'm categorised as a bad boy, hehe, I have to improve my public image and do my share on the WLAN part ;) Since I have no public image left to defend, instead I'll take the chance to point to something that is part of our internal bugzilla and seems to be missing from the public one. When one is creating a new bug, he is automatically presented with the following template. -- SOFTWARE VERSION: (Control Panel Device About product) HARDWARE VERSION: PRECONDITIONS: (devices/models involved, environment, settings, external servers/URLs if applicable, media files used, network connection: phone/WLAN) STEPS LEADING TO PROBLEM: (explain in detail what you do (e.g. tap on 'OK') and what you see/hear (message 'Connection failed' appears and a beep can be heard) 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. EXPECTED OUTCOME: ACTUAL OUTCOME: FREQUENCY OF OCCURRENCE: (always, less than 1/10, 5/10, 9/10) -- I don't know if anybody remembers about it but that's something I insisted that it would become part of the bug filing process, after being bothered constantly by lousy bug reports written on the same lines of the email that started all this thread. This was happening 3 to 4 years ago. After some random sampling of bugs present in the external bugzilla, I don't see such template being used in the bug creation. Why? -- Cheers, Igor --- Igor Stoppa Maemo Software - Nokia Devices RD - Helsinki ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently)
I agree with that. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kalle Valo Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 13:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Good stock answers (was Re: N810 Now Resets Very Frequently) Igor Stoppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 22:07 +0300, ext Kalle Valo wrote: Now that I'm categorised as a bad boy, hehe, I have to improve my public image and do my share on the WLAN part ;) Since I have no public image left to defend :) After some random sampling of bugs present in the external bugzilla, I don't see such template being used in the bug creation. Why? Yeah, that would be a good addition. One minor point before any copies it: FREQUENCY OF OCCURRENCE: (always, less than 1/10, 5/10, 9/10) Remove the word always from the template. The reason being that usually the reporter is able to reproduce the bug two times and concludes that it happens always. But in reality that might well not be the case, and marking it as 2/2 would be a lot more informative for the developer. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Battery or N800?
Before I flashed, the first time, to OS2008, I didn't experience any problems/issues with my N800. However, after going to OS2008 and then going back to OS2007 I noticed that battery life was extremely short, e.g. I could leave it for an hour or so and it would be turned off and the battery drained. When I went to Diablo, battery life was even shorter, e.g. I unhooked it from wall power and turned the unit off. When I turned it back on about two hours later, the batter was near empty. My first thought was a bad battery (that just happened to go bad during OS changes). But, when I went to Diablo a new set of problems occurred. I still have the battery issue (until this morning) but when I shut the system down in preparation for going back to the earlier OS2008 (RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.51-3), I had to, again, pull the battery out as the system hangs on the white and blue Nokia splash. When I reinserted the battery, I'm getting a blue screen with evenly spaced white stripes running from top to bottom. If I press the power button, the blue screen with stripes (not always with stripes) remains but I can hear the system coming up. Specifically I can hear the tune that is played when the hands display just before the home screen shows. Is it possible that moving/re-inserting the battery several times has damaged the N800? I bought it in January 2007 and had no problems until going to OS2008, and back to OS2007, and back again to OS2008. Since there are several apps I run that either aren't running on Diablo or have problems with Diablo, I have to go back but decided to try the earlier OS2008 to see if I can get everything to work without restoring any OS2007 data (I've updated other PIMs with all the data and I have moved the password data to another Linux system). Sometimes, after putting the battery back in, the screen remains black after pressing the power button. If I do this several times the system MIGHT come up. This last time I could hear the OS coming up but the screen is just black. At some point I can hear the sound of the unit connecting to the network. Thus, I'm thinking the unit has gone south. Thanks, Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Issues with Diable?
Background - I have a N800 purchased on 1/8/07. Ok, I still have the memory card issue but will try using a different memory card (I tried the 2GB and 128MB). The 2GB never works (neither of them) and I did reformat one of the 2GB cards on another system - no go. The 128MB card did work until I performed a restore and rebooted. Since then it hasn't worked. I'm thinking it may be related to restoring of data (for the 128MB) but I certainly don't want to start all over again adding in my GPE calendar and contact data or my password safe data. I've tried powering down and removing the battery without success. I'm guessing another card won't make a difference but at least I'll have checked. I may have to re-flash the OS and not restore anything. That will take a long time writing down passwords, etc. before beginning. I also noticed that once I install Omweather, if I go into Omweather settings that the screen goes white, then returns and the notice that the notice connecting to network appears AND neither Omweather OR the Google search bar show on the home screen - I have to reselect them from select applets pull down menu. I've tried this about a dozen times with the same results. When I installed OS2008 before (about a month ago), I also installed maemo-pan to gain connectivity to the Internet when not in a wireless area. To connect, I would simply select Bluetooth-PAN from Select Connection. However, with Diablo, if I go into the control panel and select Connections, I can see Bluetooth-PAN; however, it never shows up in Select Connection. Has anyone been successful using maemo-pan with Diablo? Lastly, has anyone been able to get gnumeric running on Diablo? If so, I could use some help! :-) Thanks, Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Diablo released
Does this release fix bug 2637 (memory card recognition issue in OS2008)? Or would I be the first to try it? Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Quim Gil Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 04:30 To: ext Nils Faerber Cc: maemo-users Subject: Re: Diablo released ext Nils Faerber wrote: Aniello Del Sorbo schrieb: Diablo has been released guys :) Details? Like where? What? http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/os2008_feature_upgrade-reflash_your _tablet-for_the_last_time.html SDK announcement to land soon. -- Quim Gil marketing manager, open source Maemo Software @ Nokia ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Diablo released
I'm guessing the Gnumeric is one of those not yet moved over. I setup the repository and, nope, doesn't show up. I still have the memory card problem but am going to try a different card to see if the problem continues. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aniello Del Sorbo Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 09:33 To: Dave Sherohman; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Diablo released That's a good question. Generally if you don't need to update... then don't do it. Theoretically all the applications should work on Diablo without much modifications. Many, in fact, do. But many of them where on the chinook extras repository and they are still not been moved to the Diablo's one. Thus updating to Diablo may give you more troubles. On the other side, a part from those new features, there are also plenty of bugfixes that Diablo carries along. And some performance improvements. Anyway, you are the only one that needs to weight the pros and cons of updating. Then, again alone, decide. -- anidel On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:10:46PM +0200, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: Diablo has been released guys :) So... As someone who hasn't been following Diablo, doesn't use a mail reader on my N800, already has my accounts and service providers set up, never sees Chinese characters outside of spam, and rarely/never zooms web pages, is there any reason for me to bother flashing my tablet (for the last time?) today instead of waiting for Diablo + 1? -- News aggregation meets world domination. Can you see the fnews? http://seethefnews.com/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- anidel ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: GPE applications dont install in Diablo
I went to http://www.cobb.uk.net and followed the link then installed - no problems with GPE calendar, contacts, todo. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Baribault Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:06 Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: GPE applications dont install in Diablo Hi All, I have flashed Diablo, but when it tries to re-install the applications, it fails on all GPE applications with missing dependencies: libsqlite0, flash-and-reboot, initfs-flasher and kernel-diablo-flasher Anyone else having this fun? Gary B ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Memory card recognization issue in OS2008
Results of mount: Rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) /dev/root on /mnt/initfs type jffs2 (ro) none on /mnt/initfs/proc type proc (rw) none on /mnt/initfs/sys type sysfs (rw) none on /mnt/initfs/tmp type tmpfs (rw) /dev/mtdblock4 on / type jffs2 (rw,rpsize=1024,rpuid=0,rpuid=3) none on /tmp type tmpfs (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) none on /dev type tmpfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev) BTW, running xterm to get mount output hung the system. I was running xterm full screen and can't get it back. Tried 'exit' without success. Hard shutdown required. Thanks, Nick. -Original Message- From: Eero Tamminen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 02:45 To: ext Frantisek Dufka Cc: Dr. Nicholas Shaw; 'maemo-users@maemo.org' Subject: Re: Memory card recognization issue in OS2008 Hi, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Thanks, Marius. Good to know that there's a bug report on xterm and, no, the X doesn't close it. That's what I went for after ctrl-d didn't work. This may be related to the first issue with SD/MMC card. From your dmesg log it can be seen the card in external slot is unreadable (all those mmcblk1p1 I/O errors) and may be faulty. When any process (like osso-xterm, shell or whatever) gets stuck in such I/O operation like this, it is unkillable. You can use ps and see 'D' state next to it. For above to happen, the cards need to be mounted. When kernel notices the errors, it re-mounts the card as read-only, but still allows processes to read it. Many applications aren't well prepared for file systems that may produce garbage though. Nicholas, what mount says of your card(s)? It can be the MMC card is really dead/broken or the device doesn't like it for some reason (dirty contacts? bad mini/micro adapter?). I think there were some changes in OS2008 about card recognization. Knowing the exact models of the cards is necessary. Is e.g. the 128Mb card the one coming with the device or something else? - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Memory card recognization issue in OS2008
Morning, Eero, I tried reformatting in the device (a few times) - no go. If I plug any of the cards into a card reader, Windows can see the data and I was able to copy the data to Windows prior to attempting reformat. After attempting reformat, Windows can still see the data. BTW - I tried a 128MB card and it worked, for a while. I did a restore of bookmarks and GPE data and the N800 did an automatic restart. After that - can't see the 128MB card either. Fortunately I was able to copy the backup files to the 128 card and get the restore going. So I've tried three cards - 2 2GB cards and 1 128MB card. The 128MB card worked until a reboot now it doesn't. Since the cards worked fine for the backup I did before installing 2008 and the 128 worked after, I'm assuming this is related to 2008. I'll be submitting a bug report this morning. When the cards are selected, the error is: Memory card is incorrectly formatted or corrupted. Device can try to restore files by repairing the card. Selecting Repair has no effect. Running dmesg produces: USB hub found 1 port detected Standalone hub Individual port power switching No over-current protection -*-- Mmcblk1: error 1 transferring data End request: I/O error, dev mmcblk1, sector 133 Printk: 181 messages suppressed. Buffer I/O error on device mmcblklp1, logical block 0 End request: I/O error, dev mmcblk1, sector 134 (continues through sector 164) Buffer I/O error on device mmcblklp1, logical block 1 FAT: unable to read boot sector mmci-omap mmci-omap.1: command timeout mmcblk1: error 1 sending read/write command EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock Cx3110x: scanned 11 channels. mmci-omap mmci-omap.1: command timeout (CMD18) mmcblk1: error 1 sending read/write command ... I've attached the complete dmesg file for your review. Lastly, no, Windows cannot see the cards when they are in the device and the device is connected via USB to the computer. But if I remove the cards, they are visible as is their data. I've also noticed that xterm has an interesting bug - when you try to close it with a control-D, it hangs and never goes away until you restart the device. I'll check to see if there's a bug report on that. It's nice that xterm is included; however, it's a bit different than the downloaded xterm I used under 2007. I sent the dmesg.output file to me using the 2008 mail client and the e-mail went; however, like xterm, it didn't close so I have two programs that won't close. Time for a shutdown. :-) Thanks, Nick. -Original Message- From: Eero Tamminen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 01:58 To: ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: 'Mark'; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Memory card recognization issue in OS2008 Hi, ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Ok, new challenge. I was able to copy the data from the two cards to my computer (had no problem at all) so don't know why the N800 now can't see either of them. I tried reformatting them and nada, zip, doesn't work. Thanks, Mark. I too have upgraded to a new release each time. I bought my N800 the day it came out (1/8/2007) and each time I've upgraded the OS I haven't had any problems with the cards. Until this time (2GB each). It won't recognize either and I just did a backup yesterday and today and the cards are viewable by Windows. So I've removed, reinserted, removed, reinserted, attempted to reformat and nothing has worked. Did you reformat in Windows or in the device? Mark, thanks for the recommendation (hard reset). I tried it, didn't work. I keep getting a message that the cards (both) are corrupted or unformatted. At this point I'm not sure what to do. This seems like an OS2008 issue as they both worked yesterday and today when I backed up and the cards are readable on my Windows Vista system. If you plug in the USB cable, can Windows access the card through the device? (i.e. is the issue in recognizing the card itself, or just the partition contents) If you run dmesg (e.g. from device X terminal) after re-inserting the card, what it says? - Eero You ever have one of those days when you want to take all your gizmos outside and blast them with a shotgun? :-) Last weekend, with our DVD player (didn't eject the disk before I dismantled and closed again the case, then it mysteriously started working again without doing anything else)... dmesg.output Description: Binary data ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Memory card recognization issue in OS2008
Thanks, Mark. No, the cards are writeable. As noted earlier, the 128MB card worked until the system rebooted following a backup restore and I had copied the backup data onto the 128MB card from data copied from the 2GB card (which I copied over to my Vista system). Boy, that was a mouthful. :-) I am seriously considering reflashing. What's the worse that can happen - I spend a few more hours re-installing software... Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 09:32 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Memory card recognization issue in OS2008 On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning, Eero, I tried reformatting in the device (a few times) - no go. If I plug any of the cards into a card reader, Windows can see the data and I was able to copy the data to Windows prior to attempting reformat. After attempting reformat, Windows can still see the data. BTW - I tried a 128MB card and it worked, for a while. I did a restore of bookmarks and GPE data and the N800 did an automatic restart. After that - can't see the 128MB card either. Fortunately I was able to copy the backup files to the 128 card and get the restore going. So I've tried three cards - 2 2GB cards and 1 128MB card. The 128MB card worked until a reboot now it doesn't. Since the cards worked fine for the backup I did before installing 2008 and the 128 worked after, I'm assuming this is related to 2008. I'll be submitting a bug report this morning. When the cards are selected, the error is: Memory card is incorrectly formatted or corrupted. Device can try to restore files by repairing the card. Selecting Repair has no effect. Running dmesg produces: USB hub found 1 port detected Standalone hub Individual port power switching No over-current protection -*-- Mmcblk1: error 1 transferring data End request: I/O error, dev mmcblk1, sector 133 Printk: 181 messages suppressed. Buffer I/O error on device mmcblklp1, logical block 0 End request: I/O error, dev mmcblk1, sector 134 (continues through sector 164) Buffer I/O error on device mmcblklp1, logical block 1 FAT: unable to read boot sector mmci-omap mmci-omap.1: command timeout mmcblk1: error 1 sending read/write command EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock Cx3110x: scanned 11 channels. mmci-omap mmci-omap.1: command timeout (CMD18) mmcblk1: error 1 sending read/write command ... I've attached the complete dmesg file for your review. Lastly, no, Windows cannot see the cards when they are in the device and the device is connected via USB to the computer. But if I remove the cards, they are visible as is their data. I've also noticed that xterm has an interesting bug - when you try to close it with a control-D, it hangs and never goes away until you restart the device. I'll check to see if there's a bug report on that. It's nice that xterm is included; however, it's a bit different than the downloaded xterm I used under 2007. I sent the dmesg.output file to me using the 2008 mail client and the e-mail went; however, like xterm, it didn't close so I have two programs that won't close. Time for a shutdown. :-) Thanks, Nick. I would try reflashing the OS, in case your last flash got corrupted. If that doesn't work, it's not sounding promising for the hardware. You have made sure that the little write-protect switches on the cards are in the unlocked position, right? Some readers ignore those switches, though, and I had one reader that malfunctioned and always reported the card was write-protected when it wasn't. I thought the card itself was toast, but I got a new reader and the card worked fine thereafter. I hope the same thing hasn't happened to your Nokia. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Memory card recognization issue in OS2008
Thanks, Marius. Good to know that there's a bug report on xterm and, no, the X doesn't close it. That's what I went for after ctrl-d didn't work. I'm just getting closer and closer to reflashing... Ugh... Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marius Gedminas Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:55 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Memory card recognization issue in OS2008 On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 07:49:24AM -0600, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: I've also noticed that xterm has an interesting bug - when you try to close it with a control-D, it hangs and never goes away until you restart the device. I'll check to see if there's a bug report on that. There is: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2473 It's supposed to be fixed in Diablo. It's nice that xterm is included; however, it's a bit different than the downloaded xterm I used under 2007. Yes. I like the horizontal toolbar, but I hate the broken Ctrl key emulation. A bit less now that I have a N810 with a real Ctrl key. I sent the dmesg.output file to me using the 2008 mail client and the e-mail went; however, like xterm, it didn't close so I have two programs that won't close. Time for a shutdown. :-) You can close the xterm with the X in the top-right corner, no need for reboot. Don't know about the email thing. Marius Gedminas -- Isn't air travel wonderful? Breakfast in London, dinner in New York, luggage in Brazil. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Cell Phone As Modem
Thanks, Jonathan, I'll give it a try this morning. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Greene Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 22:00 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: Mike Lococo; Kevin T. Neely; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Cell Phone As Modem Nick - I am almost positive it's because you don't have a phone that supports DUN which is the only method supported between a phone and the tablet. Just because they are paired does not mean they can connect for a tethered connection. OPP is Object Push - http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/Technology/Works/OPP.htm There's a link here - http://palmsolo.jaiku.com/presence/21231832 - for an app to install on your winmo device to get it to work. Or you can try installing http://www.wmwifirouter.com/ which will let you create an adhoc hotspot from your mobile phone using the data connection and your tablet connects over wifi. I use JoikuSpot on my Nokia phones sometimes and this method is actually more reliable than DUN most of the time... though the phones get pretty hot and it does seem to use more battery as well. JG On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I know PAN; however, I had no problems using my Razr phone (Motorola) and Bluetooth to connect my N800 to the Internet. So I don't think my issue is a DUN vs. PAN issue. I think the issue is on the phone side. The N800 is paired with the Black Jack 2, it just can't connect. The Bluetooth symbol on the N800 briefly changes then the connection drops. In looking at the N800 phone section in the control panel, the Black Jack 2 has only one supported profile (OPP) while the Razr had three although I didn't write them down before I erased the Razr connection from the N800. I'm wondering (haven't done the research yet, still recovering from the trip) if the OPP profile is the limiting factor, e.g. I'm missing a supported profile in order to make it work. Thanks! Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Greene Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 17:52 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: Mike Lococo; Kevin T. Neely; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Cell Phone As Modem Nick - It's a DUN vs PAN thing ... WinMo killed off DUN in favor of PAN connectivity. You need to install something (prior email with links) on the tablet to get it going. On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I have the 10MB plan and connection via Bluetooth worked with my Razr. What I'm interested in knowing is if anyone has connected to the Internet, via Bluetooth, with either the Black Jack II or Moto Q. I have the Black Jack II and it doesn't work and ATT doesn't believe it will work. They want to give me a Moto Q but I'm trying to verify if anyone has done this with the Moto Q before going ahead. If, as has been suggested (and I've experienced before), ATT technical support is wrong, then I just need to know how they do it. :-) Thanks, Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Lococo Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 14:46 To: Kevin T. Neely Cc: Dr. Nicholas Shaw; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Cell Phone As Modem Kevin T. Neely wrote: On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:09:07PM +0300, Sameer Verma wrote: Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: service would keep telling me that I could not use Bluetooth because I had not purchased the tethering package. The what? I'm sorry, that's just funny. I don't think I've ever heard of anything like that. You either have a data plan or you don't. Either way, if your phone is capable, you should be able to tether to it. It would be funny if it weren't true. Several providers hamstring their handsets to prevent tethering unless you sign up for it as an added feature. Verizon has bee doing this for years, I don't have experience with ATT but it wouldn't surprise me. Verizon calls it Broadband Access, it's an extra $15/month. If you do successfully workaround the block and tether your phone without the feature, you're in violation of your TOS. Thanks, Mike Lococo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com
RE: Cell Phone As Modem
Here are a couple of interesting sites regarding activating ICS. I discovered this morning that Mobile Windows 6 comes with ICS but it is disabled on the Black Jack 2. This site has the necessary files and instructions for enabling ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). When you do this it installs the PAN. http://keithelder.net/blog/archive/2008/01/18/ATampT-Blackjack-II-Windows-Mo bile-Phone-Review.aspx Here's a link to instructions provided by ATT: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-c...287isSrch=Yes I did install the DUN that I downloaded from the site Jonathan provided but am still unable to connect. I did a soft restart and tried it - nada. I'm obviously missing something in the here's what you do department. I kept it installed after installing ICS. I then tried ICS with DUN uninstalled. Still zip. From the discussions and research I realize that the success with the Razr was that it wasn't Windows. Jonathan, I tried installing those PANs but they're for OS2008 so... I have bitten the bullet and am installing OS 2008. I'll then install the PAN and try again. Nick. -Original Message- From: Brad Midgley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 07:16 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Cell Phone As Modem Nick Just as another data point... I can use either DUN or PAN through an ATT tilt. You do have to hard-reset the phone as soon as you get it and hit the reset button when it says something like installing additional sowftware since it is apparently installing something to disable DUN. I am using the tethering plan fwiw. On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When wireless connectivity isn't available, I've connected my N800 to the Internet through my Motorola Razr v3 through Bluetooth. -- Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Cell Phone As Modem
UPDATE: I installed the PAN software on the N800 and was able to connect to the internet. Life is sort of good. Now I have to get another Black Jack II phone because the camera doesn't work. I actually have to laugh at all this... :-) A question - on OS2007, there was a means to configure the main screen, e.g. move things around. When I installed OM Weather, it displays in the same place as Google. I'd like it to display at the bottom of the screen. I've gone through the Control Panel and the main screen settings and I can't find a means to do this. And I've gone through OM Weather settings looking for a 'placement' option. Can anyone tell me how to get things to be where I want them to be on the main screen? THANKS! Now to continue working on the storage card issue... Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 17:21 To: 'Mark' Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: RE: Cell Phone As Modem Thanks, Mark. I too have upgraded to a new release each time. I bought my N800 the day it came out (1/8/2007) and each time I've upgraded the OS I haven't had any problems with the cards. Until this time (2GB each). It won't recognize either and I just did a backup yesterday and today and the cards are viewable by Windows. So I've removed, reinserted, removed, reinserted, attempted to reformat and nothing has worked. You ever have one of those days when you want to take all your gizmos outside and blast them with a shotgun? :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 16:56 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Cell Phone As Modem On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, new challenge. I was able to copy the data from the two cards to my computer (had no problem at all) so don't know why the N800 now can't see either of them. I tried reformatting them and nada, zip, doesn't work. Has anyone else had problems with reading their cards once they upgraded to 2008? If so, what did you do to resolve the issue? The 'fun' we go through for our devices... :-) Thanks, Nick. I've had situations where when I connected my N800 to my desktop via USB and one or the other card wouldn't show up on the PC. That happens when some program on the Nokia is accessing one of the cards at the moment you plug in the USB cable. When I put the Nokia through a fresh boot it worked okay. It works the other way as well - if you connect to your PC and the cards are visible to the PC, they won't be visible to the Nokia. You have to disconnect from the PC to make the cards visible to the Nokia again. Have you rebooted the Nokia after disconnecting from the PC? I've also had the Nokia not recognize its own card because whatever switch or sensor tells it that the door is open wasn't registering the proper state. After fiddling with it a bit (removing reinserting, jiggling the door/switch etc. it worked. I didn't have any problems with my cards (I've got two 8GB cards) when reflashing. I've upgraded two or three times alread - I've upgraded every time a new OS release came out and am currently on the latest OS2008. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Cell Phone As Modem
UPDATE: I read the 'help' and configured the home screen. Sheesh, I need a rest. And the wonky phone is characteristic of the Black Jack 2. Jonathan, I used the Maemo-Pan to connect - THANKS for the link! Nick. -Original Message- From: Dr. Nicholas Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 17:43 To: 'Dr. Nicholas Shaw'; 'Mark' Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: RE: Cell Phone As Modem UPDATE: I installed the PAN software on the N800 and was able to connect to the internet. Life is sort of good. Now I have to get another Black Jack II phone because the camera doesn't work. I actually have to laugh at all this... :-) A question - on OS2007, there was a means to configure the main screen, e.g. move things around. When I installed OM Weather, it displays in the same place as Google. I'd like it to display at the bottom of the screen. I've gone through the Control Panel and the main screen settings and I can't find a means to do this. And I've gone through OM Weather settings looking for a 'placement' option. Can anyone tell me how to get things to be where I want them to be on the main screen? THANKS! Now to continue working on the storage card issue... Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 17:21 To: 'Mark' Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: RE: Cell Phone As Modem Thanks, Mark. I too have upgraded to a new release each time. I bought my N800 the day it came out (1/8/2007) and each time I've upgraded the OS I haven't had any problems with the cards. Until this time (2GB each). It won't recognize either and I just did a backup yesterday and today and the cards are viewable by Windows. So I've removed, reinserted, removed, reinserted, attempted to reformat and nothing has worked. You ever have one of those days when you want to take all your gizmos outside and blast them with a shotgun? :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 16:56 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Cell Phone As Modem On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, new challenge. I was able to copy the data from the two cards to my computer (had no problem at all) so don't know why the N800 now can't see either of them. I tried reformatting them and nada, zip, doesn't work. Has anyone else had problems with reading their cards once they upgraded to 2008? If so, what did you do to resolve the issue? The 'fun' we go through for our devices... :-) Thanks, Nick. I've had situations where when I connected my N800 to my desktop via USB and one or the other card wouldn't show up on the PC. That happens when some program on the Nokia is accessing one of the cards at the moment you plug in the USB cable. When I put the Nokia through a fresh boot it worked okay. It works the other way as well - if you connect to your PC and the cards are visible to the PC, they won't be visible to the Nokia. You have to disconnect from the PC to make the cards visible to the Nokia again. Have you rebooted the Nokia after disconnecting from the PC? I've also had the Nokia not recognize its own card because whatever switch or sensor tells it that the door is open wasn't registering the proper state. After fiddling with it a bit (removing reinserting, jiggling the door/switch etc. it worked. I didn't have any problems with my cards (I've got two 8GB cards) when reflashing. I've upgraded two or three times alread - I've upgraded every time a new OS release came out and am currently on the latest OS2008. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Cell Phone As Modem
That should have read wonky camera. If anyone has a Black Jack II and wants to connect, I provided the web link earlier that provides the necessary files. Jonathan provided a link for 'maemo-pan' that runs on OS2008. Here are the links again: To configure your Black Jack II for Internet Sharing: http://keithelder.net/blog/archive/2008/01/18/ATampT-Blackjack-II-Windows-Mo bile-Phone-Review.aspx (there are two files to download and one is already on the phone) To get PAN for OS2008 (thanks, Jonathan): http://palmsolo.jaiku.com/presence/21231832 Mark, thanks for the recommendation (hard reset). I tried it, didn't work. I keep getting a message that the cards (both) are corrupted or unformatted. At this point I'm not sure what to do. This seems like an OS2008 issue as they both worked yesterday and today when I backed up and the cards are readable on my Windows Vista system. To all who provided ideas - THANKS! :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 17:57 To: 'Dr. Nicholas Shaw'; 'Mark' Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: RE: Cell Phone As Modem UPDATE: I read the 'help' and configured the home screen. Sheesh, I need a rest. And the wonky phone is characteristic of the Black Jack 2. Jonathan, I used the Maemo-Pan to connect - THANKS for the link! Nick. -Original Message- From: Dr. Nicholas Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 17:43 To: 'Dr. Nicholas Shaw'; 'Mark' Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: RE: Cell Phone As Modem UPDATE: I installed the PAN software on the N800 and was able to connect to the internet. Life is sort of good. Now I have to get another Black Jack II phone because the camera doesn't work. I actually have to laugh at all this... :-) A question - on OS2007, there was a means to configure the main screen, e.g. move things around. When I installed OM Weather, it displays in the same place as Google. I'd like it to display at the bottom of the screen. I've gone through the Control Panel and the main screen settings and I can't find a means to do this. And I've gone through OM Weather settings looking for a 'placement' option. Can anyone tell me how to get things to be where I want them to be on the main screen? THANKS! Now to continue working on the storage card issue... Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr. Nicholas Shaw Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 17:21 To: 'Mark' Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: RE: Cell Phone As Modem Thanks, Mark. I too have upgraded to a new release each time. I bought my N800 the day it came out (1/8/2007) and each time I've upgraded the OS I haven't had any problems with the cards. Until this time (2GB each). It won't recognize either and I just did a backup yesterday and today and the cards are viewable by Windows. So I've removed, reinserted, removed, reinserted, attempted to reformat and nothing has worked. You ever have one of those days when you want to take all your gizmos outside and blast them with a shotgun? :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 16:56 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Cell Phone As Modem On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, new challenge. I was able to copy the data from the two cards to my computer (had no problem at all) so don't know why the N800 now can't see either of them. I tried reformatting them and nada, zip, doesn't work. Has anyone else had problems with reading their cards once they upgraded to 2008? If so, what did you do to resolve the issue? The 'fun' we go through for our devices... :-) Thanks, Nick. I've had situations where when I connected my N800 to my desktop via USB and one or the other card wouldn't show up on the PC. That happens when some program on the Nokia is accessing one of the cards at the moment you plug in the USB cable. When I put the Nokia through a fresh boot it worked okay. It works the other way as well - if you connect to your PC and the cards are visible to the PC, they won't be visible to the Nokia. You have to disconnect from the PC to make the cards visible to the Nokia again. Have you rebooted the Nokia after disconnecting from the PC? I've also had the Nokia not recognize its own card because whatever switch or sensor tells it that the door is open wasn't registering the proper state. After fiddling with it a bit (removing reinserting, jiggling the door/switch etc. it worked. I didn't have any problems with my cards (I've got two 8GB cards) when reflashing. I've upgraded two or three times alread - I've upgraded every time a new OS release came out and am currently on the latest OS2008. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https
Cell Phone As Modem
When wireless connectivity isn't available, I've connected my N800 to the Internet through my Motorola Razr v3 through Bluetooth. It was slow (Edge) but it worked. But the Razr had to be replaced. I decided not to replace it with another Razr because I wanted a real keyboard AND I wanted the much faster 3G data transfer capability (it still has Edge if 3G isn't available). Based upon user reviews, I narrowed my search to two phones - the Motorola Moto Q and the Samsung Black Jack II. Both are smartphones and each has the above requirements plus they're both quad-band for world travel (another requirement). In the end, I bought the Black Jack II because it's smaller. When I got the phone, I paired it through Bluetooth to the Black Jack II. What I didn't do, however, was actually attempt to connect to the Internet (you know what they say about assumptions...). On a recent trip I discovered that I'm unable to connect my N800 to the Internet through the Black Jack II and according to ATT, the Black Jack II doesn't have that ability using Bluetooth. This past Friday, I again contacted ATT and they're willing to switch out the Black Jack II for the Moto Q since I'm within the 30-day grace period. So I have two questions that I'm hoping someone can answer: 1. Just to verify, has anyone used Bluetooth to connect a N770/800/810 device to the Internet through a Black Jack II? If so, maybe we can communicate the differences in our setups offline. 2. Has anyone used Bluetooth to connect a N770/800/810 device to the Internet through the Motorola Moto Q? I don't want to get the Moto Q if it won't work although I'm guessing it will if the Motorola Razr did. In advance - THANKS! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Cell Phone As Modem
All, I have the 10MB plan and connection via Bluetooth worked with my Razr. What I'm interested in knowing is if anyone has connected to the Internet, via Bluetooth, with either the Black Jack II or Moto Q. I have the Black Jack II and it doesn't work and ATT doesn't believe it will work. They want to give me a Moto Q but I'm trying to verify if anyone has done this with the Moto Q before going ahead. If, as has been suggested (and I've experienced before), ATT technical support is wrong, then I just need to know how they do it. :-) Thanks, Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Lococo Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 14:46 To: Kevin T. Neely Cc: Dr. Nicholas Shaw; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Cell Phone As Modem Kevin T. Neely wrote: On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:09:07PM +0300, Sameer Verma wrote: Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: service would keep telling me that I could not use Bluetooth because I had not purchased the tethering package. The what? I'm sorry, that's just funny. I don't think I've ever heard of anything like that. You either have a data plan or you don't. Either way, if your phone is capable, you should be able to tether to it. It would be funny if it weren't true. Several providers hamstring their handsets to prevent tethering unless you sign up for it as an added feature. Verizon has bee doing this for years, I don't have experience with ATT but it wouldn't surprise me. Verizon calls it Broadband Access, it's an extra $15/month. If you do successfully workaround the block and tether your phone without the feature, you're in violation of your TOS. Thanks, Mike Lococo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Cell Phone As Modem
Jonathan, I know PAN; however, I had no problems using my Razr phone (Motorola) and Bluetooth to connect my N800 to the Internet. So I don't think my issue is a DUN vs. PAN issue. I think the issue is on the phone side. The N800 is paired with the Black Jack 2, it just can't connect. The Bluetooth symbol on the N800 briefly changes then the connection drops. In looking at the N800 phone section in the control panel, the Black Jack 2 has only one supported profile (OPP) while the Razr had three although I didn't write them down before I erased the Razr connection from the N800. I'm wondering (haven't done the research yet, still recovering from the trip) if the OPP profile is the limiting factor, e.g. I'm missing a supported profile in order to make it work. Thanks! Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Greene Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 17:52 To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: Mike Lococo; Kevin T. Neely; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Cell Phone As Modem Nick - It's a DUN vs PAN thing ... WinMo killed off DUN in favor of PAN connectivity. You need to install something (prior email with links) on the tablet to get it going. On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I have the 10MB plan and connection via Bluetooth worked with my Razr. What I'm interested in knowing is if anyone has connected to the Internet, via Bluetooth, with either the Black Jack II or Moto Q. I have the Black Jack II and it doesn't work and ATT doesn't believe it will work. They want to give me a Moto Q but I'm trying to verify if anyone has done this with the Moto Q before going ahead. If, as has been suggested (and I've experienced before), ATT technical support is wrong, then I just need to know how they do it. :-) Thanks, Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Lococo Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 14:46 To: Kevin T. Neely Cc: Dr. Nicholas Shaw; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Cell Phone As Modem Kevin T. Neely wrote: On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:09:07PM +0300, Sameer Verma wrote: Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: service would keep telling me that I could not use Bluetooth because I had not purchased the tethering package. The what? I'm sorry, that's just funny. I don't think I've ever heard of anything like that. You either have a data plan or you don't. Either way, if your phone is capable, you should be able to tether to it. It would be funny if it weren't true. Several providers hamstring their handsets to prevent tethering unless you sign up for it as an added feature. Verizon has bee doing this for years, I don't have experience with ATT but it wouldn't surprise me. Verizon calls it Broadband Access, it's an extra $15/month. If you do successfully workaround the block and tether your phone without the feature, you're in violation of your TOS. Thanks, Mike Lococo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: omweather recently broken?
I'm having that problem. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Mark Siskind Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 18:48 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: omweather recently broken? I'm running OS2008 on an N810. I have omweather installed. It was working fine until just the past day or so. Now the icons are all question marks in circles and the temperatures are all N/A. I haven't installed anything recently or changed any settings. I get an error Wrong station code or ZIP code!!!. I have it set to show West Lafayette IN, Indianapolis, and Chicago. All three exhibit this same problem. Does anybody else have this problem? Any idea on how to fix it? Jeff (http://www.ece.purdue.edu/~qobi) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Garnet VM PIM
1) Access is running a horrible beta program. It's teaseware. No user feedback, no developer feedback. No hint of future support. No documentation. I totally agree. I keep wondering when Access is going to go from horrible beta to reliable tool. I keep sending in my issues with installed software and never get anything back except a thank you and with no subsequent betas being releases, there's no way to know if Access is even working on Garnet. It's a bit frustrating and I agree it's teaseware. There's great potential here though. Nick. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Markevich Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 10:15 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Garnet VM PIM ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Garnet VM PIM
2) No serious PIM on the platform. GPE is conceptware. It doesn't even handle alarms acceptably. No icons for events. No categories in todo. Sync through erminig is a great hack but a nasty implementation. Gene Cash developed some scripts in python that are better, but still miles from a good Palm PIM, and kinda slow. He had trouble installing OS2008 so abandoned all the OS2008 users. Another great hack, of course, but not professional at all. I forgot. J I've become used to using GPE. Last year I posted a few issues such as categories aren't sorted, and there's no real way to accurately sort contacts (tried using 'Name:' for people and 'Company' for business' thinking that 'Name' would sort by last name (assuming last name is the last entry) while Company would sort by first name (assuming it's the first entry) but that doesn't seem to be the case). Other than that, I've come to depend upon GPE (todo, contacts, and calendar). Dr. Nicholas Shaw MAJ, USA Retired ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions
Thanks, Tony, and to everyone else. Because I rely so heavily on my N800 for day-to-day operations, I'm very hesitant about doing anything that will impact that. I have no problem with re-installing the software (although I don't want to) but wanted to make sure the tools I use are there. My plan now is to get the software that will run, based upon everyone's comments, and put them on my SD card (I have many but some are on my hard disk or on the 'net). Then block time aside for the operation. I will restore my bookmarks but not my settings as recommended by Kevin Neely. Mark, thanks for the info on GPE. I also don't use the file manager but loaded it just because I could and never removed it. Now I won't install it. :-) Frantisek, your comment regarding Diablo, I may just wait and see how that shakes out before upgrading. And I do use my touch screen (when my Bluetooth keyboard isn't handy) often to take notes in meetings. So if that is still a problem I may have to make sure I have my keyboard with me whenever I travel. Again, to all - thanks! As always, this is a great forum with great help! Regards, Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Green Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 03:59 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions On Monday 14 Apr 2008, Mark wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, lastly, for the applications that require no changes, e.g. no new binaries, will they show up after I upgrade or do I have to re-install them? You'll have to reinstall them. When upgrading within a major release (e.g. from 2.2007.50-2 to 2.2007.51-3) you can use the backup function to backup and then reinstall everything. However, when upgrading from one major release to another (e.g. OS2007 to OS2008), you'll probably have to reinstall everything manually, and not every app has been migrated to OS2008. The application manager won't allow you to install 2007 apps on a 2008 OS. The main problem with apps that haven't been released for OS2008 is the install file you get when you click on the icon on the Maemo site. That checks the OS version and chokes if it's wrong. You'll find a lot of apps can be installed by going straight to the .deb file instead. It took me a while to get round to putting MySQL and Apache on the repository because I'd just installed from my own builds and hadn't noticed that I needed a new install file. -- Tony Green Ipswich, Suffolk, England http://www.beermad.org.uk http://no2id-ip.web-brewer.co.uk ** This message is digitally signed. If your email client is unable to read digital signatures, you may see an attachment that you cannot open. See http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/faqs.html for more information. You can validate my PGP key from my website: http://www.beermad.org.uk/ * No Micro$oft products were used in the generation of this communication ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions
Mark, What I have done in the past is go to application manager, identify the web site (through the catalog) that actually hosts the files for the particular application I'm interested in, go there and get the files. For some, I have e-mails with links to where they are (I've also stored some as favorites). Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:39 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main problem with apps that haven't been released for OS2008 is the install file you get when you click on the icon on the Maemo site. That checks the OS version and chokes if it's wrong. You'll find a lot of apps can be installed by going straight to the .deb file instead. Unfortunately, the .deb files can be very difficult to track down. I realize that they're trying to protect novices from themselves, but it sure isn't very user-friendly. Can you explain how to extract a .deb file from the repository? I've tried every trick I can think of, and some apps simply don't give any access to the .deb file. Regarding the touch screen: I have the newest version of OS2008 on my N800, and there definitely are issues with the accuracy. I've tried calibrating many times, but it doesn't seem to help. I'm constantly frustrated with getting spaces instead of bottom-row keys when using the stylus with the on-screen keyboard. Clicking on links on Web pages can be challenging as well. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions
So, Marius, after you rebooted, how does the touch screen operate? Better, worse, same? Thanks, Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marius Gedminas Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 13:03 To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:38:47PM -0600, Mark wrote: Regarding the touch screen: I have the newest version of OS2008 on my N800, and there definitely are issues with the accuracy. I've tried calibrating many times, but it doesn't seem to help. At one point I thought my N800 was hopelessly broken, but then I discovered that touchscreen calibration didn't actually have any effect until the next reboot. Bug or just bad UI? Marius Gedminas -- Only great masters of style can succeed in being obtuse. -- Oscar Wilde Most UNIX programmers are great masters of style. -- The Unnamed Usenetter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Move from 2007 to 2008 Questions
All, My apologies as I have not kept up with all the discussions on the forum in a while. Part of it was due to a severe motorcycle accident. What I have been doing is going into maemo.org and monitoring the applications that are there to see if the applications I use regularly are available for 2008. So, before I take the plunge and upgrade, I thought I'd put a list out and try to identify if the existing applications are compatible with 2008, if they're just not listed in the catalog, or if they are just not compatible and I have to find something else or stay with 2007. Here's the list (it's short): . GPE Calendar, GPE Todo, GPE Contacts (most important as I use these every day) . X11VNC (used for displaying my N800 onto my desktop) . Xterm (critical as I have my backup scripts that are run from here) . Gnumeric (I have a lot of workarounds in gnumeric so this is also very important) . Simple launcher . Gainroot . Maemo Krypt (least important) And, lastly, for the applications that require no changes, e.g. no new binaries, will they show up after I upgrade or do I have to re-install them? In advance - thanks! And, again, my apologies. Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Is the iGo Stowaway Ultra-Slim compatible with the n800?
Here's a thought (not a quick solution) - there are a lot of us who use the iGo Stowaway. I've written a couple of times to iGo to develop a map for the Stowaway. If enough folks on this list write and pester them, maybe they'll consider it a market worthy of playing in for real and develop proper keyboard mappings. I have even submitted service reports. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Edgecombe Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 6:45 AM To: Aniruddha . Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Is the iGo Stowaway Ultra-Slim compatible with the n800? Aniruddha . wrote: On Jan 4, 2008 12:32 AM, James Taji [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 3, 2008 6:25 PM, Aniruddha . [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wonder if anyone knows if the iGo Stowaway Ultra-Slim is compatible with the n800? Yes it works perfectly, as it is a standard Bluetooth HID keyboard. -- Great. Thanks for the info! I am going to order mine asap. Regards, Aniruddha I can confirm that my iGo Stowaway works very well, except for one or two keys that don't map correctly. When I press the key for '~', I get a '*'. how can I fix this. The iGo is the only bluetooth keyboard that I use. Thanks, Jason ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Once I made the decision to wait for the official release of OS2008, I didn't pay much attention to the discussions. I do, however, remember seeing a short blurb about OS2007 applications not running on OS2008. Is there a list of what works and what doesn't? My apologies in advance if this has been covered somewhere else. I just don't have the time right now to do a search. Lastly, do I need to reinstall all my apps or will OS2008 install and leave them intact? Thanks! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Keyboard for N800
Ctrl works fine for me (full-sized iGo/ThinkOutside Stowaway Bluetooth) - perhaps you mean Fn? The layout on the N800 intercepts Fn and interprets it as a right-click, so if you want to use any Fn-whatever key combinations (in light blue on the keyboard), you need to set up a small change. I saw the instructions either on this list or internettablettalk.com recently - I think they involved xmodmap, google shall certain find them. Yes, Ryan, you're correct - I meant Fn. I'll search for the required changes! Thanks! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Keyboard for N800
For my N800 I bought the StowAway (NOT the compact version which is crippled) and it works perfectly except a) the ESC gets intercepted by OS2007 Very true. Hopefully this is corrected in OS2008. CTRL also doesn't work. b) OS2007 requires lots of clicks to crank up BlueTooth and make it connect. Once the StowAway is paired, just turn it on and it will work. An excellent keyboard. ///Peter Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: synchronization with MS exchange
I'm using it. I've found only one application that doesn't work - checklist. Everything else, such as MobileDB, works fine. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Acadia Secure Networks Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 1:39 PM To: Jason Edgecombe Cc: maemo-users Subject: Re: synchronization with MS exchange Jason, in case you are not aware, Access has introduced a Nokia Internet Tablet Compatible virtualization environment for the Palm OS apps. Called Garnet. Here is the url to the www site: http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/ I have not yet tried it so I don't know how well it does with applications that require access to the wireless interface of the N800. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Jason Edgecombe wrote: Hi everyone, My new Nokia N800 should arrive tomorrow. I'm looking forward to it. I've been using a Palm m130 for years now and the killer feature has been synchronizing contacts and my calendar. I would miss meetings if my PDA didn't beep and remind me of them. ;) Can I use the N800 to do repeatedly to manual one or two-way syncs from MS Exchange to the N800 and have the meeting reminders cause the N800 to sound an reminder alarm at the appropriate time? I can also code, so if there is some work in progress for this, then please point me to it. Thanks, Jason ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Map application in os2008
Gary, I'm using Google Street and have downloaded maps for Colorado. I had no problem downloading the maps. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:37 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Map application in os2008 Has anyone had much luck in downloading maps for the western U.S.? I got Canada, Russia, and Singapore w/o a hitch (all much smaller files) but it keeps hanging about 5% into the download for west U.S. Anyone have a suggestion like an alternate download link and manual install? Thanks, Gary ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: N810 on a N800?
Thanks, Allan! I just started the download so that part of the instructions
works! :-)
Nick.
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Hi Alan,
I try and works.
Thanks for the tip. This new OS version is more fast and usable than the
later versions.
On 11/15/07, Alan Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9816300-7.html?tag=nefd.only
Anyone tried this?
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RE: Virtual Palm OS on your Nokia N-Series
I have to disagree. Depending upon the app you're using it works fine. For example, I reloaded by books and movies databases for use in MobileDB. No problems whatsoever. I'm also running '1/2 Convert' and 'Fill Up' without issues. The only program, thus far, that I've had issues with (and reported) is CheckList. For some strange reason it dies when trying to enter in the serial number. Use it in demo mode and it works great! Regards, Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Greene Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:36 AM To: John Holmblad Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Virtual Palm OS on your Nokia N-Series absolutely ... I'm used to beta though this is is more true to the term than we are accustomed to seeing most of the time these days. I can't see using this on a daily basis for now On Nov 14, 2007 10:34 AM, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan, I guess that is why Access is referring to it as Beta software. For those who have not done so, the short (~7 page) white paper on the Garnet VM available on the downloads page is worth a read. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC Jonathan Greene wrote: http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/11/14/palm-on-your-nokia-tablet/ My thought is that this is far from ready for primetime... On Nov 13, 2007 11:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:48:06AM +0100, Christian Otto Stelter wrote: Hi! Just spotted on #maemo. http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/13/virtual-palm-os-on-your-nokia-n-series-ta blet-hoozah/ http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/ r0x0r ;-) cos Is that the Palm emulation from the Palm development environ? If so, it's presumably intended so that you can write Palm software and debug it on your Nokia. -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Virtual Palm OS on your Nokia N-Series
Ditto! I missed MobileDB, 1/2Convert, Fill UP (although I'm writing a Maemo version using SQLite3), and CheckList. My N800 just became a whole lot more useful! Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:01 PM To: Christian Otto Stelter Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: Virtual Palm OS on your Nokia N-Series On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:48:06AM +0100, Christian Otto Stelter wrote: http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/ Thanks for the link! I'm impressed at how well this works. I installed this without a hitch, then downloaded and installed HandyShopper, which is probably the app I miss most from my Palm, and it installed like a charm. I have yet to test out the hotsync functionality. The only thing missing, it seems, is making the palm emulation utilize the full tablet screen, but the functionality seems spot-on. My white Nokia bluetooth keyboard even worked with it. K -- In Vino Veritas http://astroturfgarden.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
N800 Mail Question
I don't use Claws. I use the mail program that came with the N800. Prior to the release I installed in August (not the recent patch release) I could tell the mail program not to automatically poll for mail. Under 'tools', 'settings' there is a checkbox to 'update automatically.' It is unchecked; however, mail still polls as long as a network connection exists. This is very frustrating. Is anyone else having this problem? Even if I were to upgrade to Claws, that wouldn't stop this mail package from polling... Thanks, Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: N800 Mail Question
Thanks, Fred. That is what I do also; however, I also travel a lot and whenever the mail package polls it lights up the screen (even when locked). I use my N800 as my alarm clock and having the screen 'awake' when it polls (actually when it finds an e-mail to download) is very irritating as I shutdown my e-mail package @ home when I'm on the road. I do agree about setting a default mail program - that would be a great feature! Nokia.. :-) And there's no question about the seamless upgrades - totally agree. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:08 PM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: N800 Mail Question Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: I don't use Claws. I use the mail program that came with the N800. Prior to the release I installed in August (not the recent patch release) I could tell the mail program not to automatically poll for mail. Under 'tools', 'settings' there is a checkbox to 'update automatically.' It is unchecked; however, mail still polls as long as a network connection exists. This is very frustrating. Is anyone else having this problem? Even if I were to upgrade to Claws, that wouldn't stop this mail package from polling... I see the email polling as more of a feature than a problem. My SOP is to just ignore the built in email program as much as possible. The polling is a very minor side show in most respects. As part of ignoring it, I set it so it deletes mails older than a couple days old... or something like that. It would be nice to be able to configure Claws (or whatever email program one uses) as the default email program. I suppose that will happen at some point as development moves forward. For all I know, it's possible now, if one knows how to poke the right buttons. IMHO, there's other things that ought to take a higher priority, like seemless OS upgrades. Always, Fred ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: External Monitor with N800
Kalle, Thank you! I think I'll give it a shot. If it works, great and I'll post the results. If it doesn't, lesson learned and I'll still post the results. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kalle Valo Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:54 PM To: ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: External Monitor with N800 ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800, directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do with VNC). In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays on an external monitor. I believe we had a similar discussion several months back. Is this possible? The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify. You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use USB2VGA for that: http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/ http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not for normal users. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: N810 is here
Jonathan, thanks for the updates! Nick. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Greene Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:38 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: N810 is here Been meaning to reply back to this thread been hectic here. My device is pre-release and has a slip case which I believe will be included. Ogg is not included for codec licensing issues... Form factor is excellent as is the build and it will apparently get a bit better over the course of the pre-release period along with the updates to the OS for release. Non-Powered USB...can't charge - not sure about keyboard, but I assume not and it's the micro-USB variety. MiniSD gives you up to 10GB storage with the internal ... US / Canada maps are preinstalled in much (think it's around1.8GB) of the 2GB internal and non-removable card which is how you get 256 free there. Wimax is next year... I've been told it's later. No FM radio either... Anything else - I'll likely have an overview blog post up in the next 24-48 hours once i get back to NY have time to think it out a bit with some extended use. If there's something specific you'd like to know, please let me know... On 10/18/07, Steve Greenland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to John Rudd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And, no, it's not about open and free. Since the developers in question are Nokia (since the comment was directed at the release of the N810 itself, and not a request for more 3rd party development), it's about how much effort the developers need to put into supporting something vs. the amount of return they get from supporting it. Actually, it is about being open and free. Nokia promotes the tablet as an open platform, and is using huge amounts of free software as the basis for its product. To ignore ogg-vorbis support, which *is* an important feature for many of us (and far more valuable, to *me*, than WMA and AAC support), and is pretty much the only free-as-in-freedom codec, is a bit of a slap in the face. Some of us do have political agendas, such as promoting the use of free software. That Nokia uses our software (as is their right, according to our licenses), but then promotes non-free codecs/software, is a bit sad. Regards, Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- seen on the net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
External Monitor with N800
Here's a question (if I can resolve this my wife will buy me a N810): My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800, directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do with VNC). In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays on an external monitor. I believe we had a similar discussion several months back. Is this possible? The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify. Thanks! Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices
John, I agree with your comments regarding PDA software as well as the difficulty of menus. I found the menus on the N800 to be extremely simple. I have a PSP (original) and it is nowhere near as functional as the N800 and certainly more challenging to move around (I mostly use it for games). I also agree with the communications. The PSP has 802.11b versus the N800s 11g. Thus, it's much faster. I also have no issues with the size of the N800. Regarding music, I have never gotten the FM radio to work, even in a large city. But it's still better (what there is) than a PSP... :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rudd Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices Alan Williamson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7033352.stm The N800 has support from a wealth of third parties and looks to be more of a hobbyist device. I think that's true. In some regards, the N800 is still a hobbyist device. Certain things I think you'd find as key functions in a PDA aren't bundled into it from the factory, and don't have syncing ability with desktop applications. So, you have to depend on 3rd parties to get basic functionality into the PDA ... and while that's fine with me, it's also more of a hobbyist thing than a consumer thing. I'm not sure where they got the idea that the menus are difficult or annoying ... the one and only annoyance I have with the application menus are that pop-up/context menus are difficult to invoke reliably. I asked, via an enhancement request, that there be some other way to invoke that functionality, but the response I got back wasn't positive. But, it certainly wouldn't hurt for the various pieces of the review to be taken as feature requests by Nokia :-} For example, a less menu/button driven version of zooming (where you can pick the screen region to zoom into, and things like that) would be nice. A little bit better video support (video out ... I don't know if any of the 3rd party video players add DivX and n.264, if not, then a nokia supplied/supported add-on for that would be nice). Though, one thing I found lacking in the review: while they mention, prominently, the core functionality of the other three devices (games for the PSP, video player for the archos, music player for the iPod), they only mention the Nokia's communication capability in passing (one small mention of internet telephony). Lets see you make skype VOIP calls, and google-talk video chats, on the other devices. I think they should have mentioned this as one of the major bullet items, since a) it's a nokia device, and communication is as big to Nokia as music is to an iPod, and video is to the archos, and b) it rounds out the mention of the core functions of _all_ 4 devices. The top 3 apps I have on simple launcher are, after all, communication applications. Pidgin, Claws-Mail, and xterm (for ssh). To me, that's what the N800 is about: staying connected. The iPod Touch certainly doesn't give me those capabilities (my final choice was iPod Touch vs N800, and the N800, so I compared them on this very closely). I don't recall it being a strength of the archos either ... though, if the PSP has AIM, YIM, Jabber, IMAP, and ssh ... I'd love to hear about it. Even if it does, I wouldn't expect Sony to make them a core supported piece of the PSP's design, yet Nokia did make communication a core part of the N800. (the other annoyance I have with the review: they talk about how easy it is to do music with the iPod, but completely forget to mention that the Nokia has a built in rhapsody client, internet radio player, AND FM radio ... I know people who wont buy the iPod Touch nor iPhone because it lacks the FM radio) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices
Thanks, Brad. I'll give that a try! Nick. -Original Message- From: Brad Midgley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:26 PM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: John Rudd; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices Nicholas Regarding music, I have never gotten the FM radio to work fyi the headphones have to be in to act as an antenna even if you're using the speakers. since I'd rather have fewer wires I've been enjoying the itech bluetooth headset with an fm radio of its own. This will be great once the bluetooth drivers are in maemo. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices
Thanks, guys! I'll try this out along with your suggestions for success!! Nick. -Original Message- From: Gary Baribault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:21 PM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: 'Brad Midgley'; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices The other thing, is that I couldn't get it to work until I downloaded the presets by using the tower' icon in the botom right of the applet, after that it worked great! Gary Baribault Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: Thanks, Brad. I'll give that a try! Nick. -Original Message- From: Brad Midgley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:26 PM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: John Rudd; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: BBC reviews N800 with 3 other devices Nicholas Regarding music, I have never gotten the FM radio to work fyi the headphones have to be in to act as an antenna even if you're using the speakers. since I'd rather have fewer wires I've been enjoying the itech bluetooth headset with an fm radio of its own. This will be great once the bluetooth drivers are in maemo. Brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: reinstall applications
I certainly didn't know that - thanks! Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Emil Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:06 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: reinstall applications On 2 October 2007, Gary Baribault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK then, can I beat up on them? I agree, this is a lousy way of doing the updates, I cannot suggest this device to anyone if every time there is an update, all applications have to be re-installed!! Why can't the update take a proper#full backup to a flash card, dump a list of applications, and after the flash, re-install the latest updated applications? I'm not sure how many of you know this trick given it is a debian system you can save /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of 'dpkg --get-selections' to a MMC card, do the upgrade and then only install manually xterm or a ssh server. Once logged back in as root you restore the sources.list, then do a 'apt-get update' to load back the repositories, then do 'dpkg --set-selections file' to restore your application list and in the end 'apt-get upgrade' to install them. -- Regards, Emil -- Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs and cackling, telling me, You're next. They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: 4.2007.38-2 available
I can't believe that Nokia still expects its users to reload everything in order to install a patch. This has got to be the most poorly designed OS I've ever encountered. Fixing this should be their #1 priority. I'm sorry to vent but this makes no sense. Many, like me, held off updating the last 'update' so bugs could be worked out. I waited until almost mid-August before updating and it took me a few hours to re-install all the applications I had before. To expect us to do that every time a new release comes out is absurd. I've done this twice now. No way will I install this patch and go through that headache again! Nokia, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET THIS FIXED??? After the first release a message went out saying the next release would fix it. I bought my N800 the day it was released and here we are, three releases later, and still no fix in sight. :-( Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: 4.2007.38-2 available
Thanks, John. I shouldn't have lost my cool. If you go to the regular update site, this 'fix' wasn't listed. If it is just a minor fix (major to some folks), it makes even less sense to completely flash the device. Ok, I'm going to stop beating up Nokia now and do some work... :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: Acadia Secure Networks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:55 PM To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: 4.2007.38-2 available Nick, I share your pain and I wholeheartedly agree. The product will not find traction in the business market (if that is a market in which Nokia has interest for this product) unless this problem is fixed. Also it would be helpful if Nokia would clearly specify ALL of the changes in this release. Is there any reason not to? Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks *serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets*** * * Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote: I can't believe that Nokia still expects its users to reload everything in order to install a patch. This has got to be the most poorly designed OS I've ever encountered. Fixing this should be their #1 priority. I'm sorry to vent but this makes no sense. Many, like me, held off updating the last 'update' so bugs could be worked out. I waited until almost mid-August before updating and it took me a few hours to re-install all the applications I had before. To expect us to do that every time a new release comes out is absurd. I've done this twice now. No way will I install this patch and go through that headache again! *Nokia, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET THIS FIXED???* After the first release a message went out saying the next release would fix it. I bought my N800 the day it was released and here we are, three releases later, and still no fix in sight. L Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: 4.2007.38-2 available
I'm not sure I would characterize not performing updates without having to reflash as an outrage against nature but it is more than mildly frustrating. If we consider, for the N800, all updates since January and if it takes 3 hours to update the device plus reload/reconfigure all applications (this of course depends upon how many applications we have) then a typical power user might have spent up to 12 hours or more in less than a year. I think, for a device designed to make life easier, this is unacceptable. In one particular case, prior to updating in August my BT keyboard became fully functional due to something I must have downloaded/installed. Now it's back to ok functional. I'm sure it might become fully functional if only I knew what changed but I don't. I do backups every day so reflashing + restore does indeed return my settings and bookmarks. But, as others have already noted, that's only a part of the story. Reinstalling applications and reconfiguring those applications is time consuming and tedious. I don't know (not from your e-mail Michael) if comparing the tablets to other phones is a reasonable comparison. Perhaps comparing tablets to phones such as Palm and Windows devices, such as a Treo, is more reasonable as they have OS' and applications. For these OS' it is possible to update without reflashing or reloading applications. Thus, I believe it is perfectly reasonable to expect the same of a 'higher order' device. Nick. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: 4.2007.38-2 available
I'm 3-4 hours. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Baribault Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:44 PM To: Jac Kersing Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: 4.2007.38-2 available I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in 20 minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take over 90 minutes. I'm near there and have only had the toy for about 20 days. By the time I'm finished customizing the application load, configurations, ssh keys, and assorted other things, I will be well over that 90 minutes, and I'm sure many other owners are even more customized! Anyone care to host a survey of all applications that we load and how much time it takes to reflash/customize/restore? (Not to mention re-test the restore!) Gary Baribault Courriel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 Jac Kersing wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Michael Wiktowy wrote: Reality is that they are much closer to the resource constrains of a cell phone and I don't know of a single cell phone that doesn't just wipe everything that isn't on the SIM or external memory card on a firmware update ... Sorry, not true. All (recent) S60 devices are firmware upgradable, backup before, flash new firmware, restore and all applications are available. (Somehow they forget to save/restore the bluetooth pairing information, but everything works just fine) All that being said, I am not sure how many apps you have but reloading my IT after a firmware update has never taken me 2-4 hours. Having to reinstall is a pain. Enabling blue pill mode for some packages. Resetting the root password after install of sshd. It is not cool to have to do every OS upgrade. Regards, Jac --- Jac KersingTechnical Consultant The-Box Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] CISSP RHCEhttp://www.the-box.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: 4.2007.38-2 available
Kemal, That's nice. I also have an e-mail from Nokia stating that it would be fixed in the 2d release. Don't mind if I don't hold my breath. Regards, Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kemal Hadimli Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:57 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: 4.2007.38-2 available Nokia already announced that this will be fixed in the upcoming 4.x Chinhook release. To install 4.0 you'll have to reflash but after 4.0, each new release will be upgradable via dpkg. Please do your research first. And no, caps won't help. On 10/2/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't believe that Nokia still expects its users to reload everything in order to install a patch. This has got to be the most poorly designed OS I've ever encountered. Fixing this should be their #1 priority. comes out is absurd. I've done this twice now. No way will I install this patch and go through that headache again! Nokia, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GET THIS FIXED??? -- Kemal ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: Auto Backup
Yes. Try rdiff-backup. It will take some configuring but a straight forward script can be found at http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/examples.html Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 5:31 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Auto Backup Is there an automated scheduled back up utility somewhere on Maemo that would allow one to automatically back up the unit in the middle of the night when it's idling along/charging? Seems like a no brainer utility that ought to be available. Always, Fred C ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: 4.2007.38-2 available
Now that's funny... :-) Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Midgley Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:04 PM To: Gary Baribault Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: 4.2007.38-2 available guys It takes longer to read this thread than it does to reinstall my apps. At least it's improving... I used to have to restore sources.list too... brad ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: External Keyboards
Size, when closed, is ~2.5x4. Size, when open is full. Note the when closed. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Vaughan Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:22 PM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: External Keyboards On Saturday 25 August 2007, you wrote: Size, when open is full with good tactile feedback. It doesn't slide around and the battery lasts long. Size, when closed, is ~2.5x4. Isn't 2.5 a bit short? Otherwise it sounds great. I wish items like this would have a full sized picture in their ads or at least an object for scale. Hal ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: External Keyboards
I use the Stowaway and like it. Nick. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damien Challet Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 3:48 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: External Keyboards On Tuesday 21 August 2007 17:49:06 Hal Vaughan wrote: On Monday 20 August 2007, Mike Klein wrote: You're looking for a bt-legacy adapter for ps/2 (or usb) devices...as far as I know they only do this (i.e. Motorola) for audio line out. That's my problem with all bt keyboards...they're either chintzy little folding things that always flex too much for lap use or they are HUGE monstrosities like my MX5000...or they give you crap key layout. If somebody put out a bt keyboard like the HappyHacking keyboard I'd be in heaven. All the 'good' small-sized wireless keyboards I've found were RF and not BT. I've given up on the one thing I'd like: A portable keyboard with the natural layout. It makes big difference for me on my desktop keyboard. What about the iGo Stowaway (not the ultra-slim?). It seems to have the same layout as desktop keyboards. http://www.igo.com/product.asp?sku=3104369 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: External Keyboards
Size, when open is full with good tactile feedback. It doesn't slide around and the battery lasts long. Size, when closed, is ~2.5x4. Nick. I was wondering about the name, since it's the same name as my current keyboard and the .pdf data sheet says iGo used to be Think Outside. The layout is MUCH better than my current one, though, so I may be switching to that one soon (when I can afford or justify another keyboard purchase). What's the size like? Hal ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
