Re: N770 firmware still available somewhere?

[Johan Helsingius]

> Hm, searching for that message shows it's a common problem with firefox
> version >= 7, so try a different browser first.

Ah, yes! Downloads OK with Chromium! Thanks!

Julf

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Re: N770 firmware still available somewhere?

[Johan Helsingius]

Thanks, Lucas!

> If you install OS2006 you'll probably also want to install the patched
> wifi driver from  to fix
> the memory corruption bug (ironically the later HE firmware versions
> include the fix and thus are more stable than the official releases).

Thanks! Unfortunately on my 770 the HE reboots every 5 minutes or so :(

>> but seems the Nokia server for the firmware is not working any more. :(
> 
>  still looks fine from here.

Looks fine for me too, but when actually trying to download the
firmware, I get:

"Corrupted Content Error

 The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because an error in
 the data transmission was detected.

 The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because an error in
 the data transmission was detected.Please contact the website owners
 to inform them of this problem."

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N770 firmware still available somewhere?

[Johan Helsingius]

Hi!

At some point I installed HE onto my old 770, but it caused it
to crash all the time. As I got a 810 (and then a 900), I didn't
bother doing anything about it, but now I think it is a pity to
leave the hardware unused. I wanted to downgrade to the non-HE
firmware, but seems the Nokia server for the firmware is not
working any more. :(

Julf
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Re: N900: forcing headphone output?

[Johan Helsingius]

Martin,

> You can call alsamixer -c0 in X-Terminal and switch the headset type
> manually there.

Great! Thanks!

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N900: forcing headphone output?

[Johan Helsingius]

Is there any way to force the N900 audio output to the
headphone plug? The system clearly detects that the
headphones are plugged in based on the impedance of
the headphones - so if I plug the headset cable into
a high-impedance amp input, the "headset" isn't detected
so the N900 keeps using the internal speaker, with no
audio on the headset plug.

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Re: ovi maps : problems

[Johan Helsingius]

Alessio,

> Could you suggest other software to install that has these
fetaures (1)
> and (2)?

Sygic is talking about a coming version of their
voice-guided navigation for N900, but originally it
was supposed to be available by the end of 2009, and
it still hasn't been released.

> I thought N900 was one of the top products of Nokia
> also for these kind of services..

As the Symbian phones sell in much higher volumes,
it seems the free navigation app for Symbian had
much higher priority - unfortunately. I agree it
sends a strange message about the N900.

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Re: no voice-assisted navigation on any maemo device?

[Johan Helsingius]

Paul,

> I don't think you actually asked a question, but Sygic voice-guided
> navigation for N900 is coming "soon" in case you didn't know.

That is useful info, thanks. Now I guess the issue is the "soon".
Guess it didn't ship by the end of 2009...

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no voice-assisted navigation on any maemo device?

[Johan Helsingius]

As the snow is finally disappearing, motorcycle season is
about to start again - and one of the reasons I originally
upgraded my 770 to an 810 and then 900 was to get GPS
navigation without having to resort to a separate satnav
or phone. And on a motorcycle, you need voice instructions,
as you can't keep staring at a screen.

Well, the ovi maps app on maemo 5 is useless - no
real-time routing, no voice, and that horrible forced
forward-up, north-is-wherever orientation.

OK, while waiting for a real satnav app for maemo5
(or maemo6, or meetoo or whatever), I thought I could
at least use the 810 with the commercial map (wayfinder)
app, that actually does most of what I want, but is
closed source and requires an expensive license. Ah,
no, doesn't any more - wayfinder has been sold to
Vodafone, and the internet tablet version has been
discontinued. So no way to reactivate routing. Duh.

Oh, and the other big reason to use a maemo device
was CarMan for the OBDII stuff - seems that app
isn't ported to maemo 5 either... :(

Julf
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Re: Not enough memory

[Johan Helsingius]

Craig,

> Again, from my understanding, the flash memory is split up
> because it's slightly different hardware wise.  The first
> chunk is a higher class meaning it has faster access, while
> the larger chunk is slower.  If that's true, it makes sense
> that it was partitioned out this way.

You might be right about the hardware, and in that case, yes,
it would make sense to put the frequently-used files on a
smaller piece of faster but more expensive memory. But the
application manager / apt is not a frequently used application.
I do not care if checking for new updates takes 10 or 20 s. So
if you are right, the original partitioning decisions are even
worse than I thought - wasting precious fast memory on stuff
that definitely doesn't need the speed.

> I take no exception to saying it's a poor design choice
> (IN YOUR OPINION) that they didn't go with a device with
> full class 6 flash

I am not talking about hardware design, but a very simple
software/set-up choice. One that, as you yourself point
out, can easily be fixed at no cost. All I am saying is
that it *should* be fixed.

Julf
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Re: Not enough memory

[Johan Helsingius]

Craig,

> If you wanted an iPhone, you should have bought one.

Sorry, that is the most pitiful excuse I have heard for
someone screwing up the partitioning. Yes, the N900 is
intended for technically sophisticated users. No, that
doesn't mean every single issue can be written off as
"user error".

It is funny that you refer to the iPhone, because one
of the things that really put me off the Apple stuff
is the fanboy religiousness. So, could we please not
have Nokia fanboys either - a screw up is a screw up.

> this is not a computer for someone that don't know
> how to maintain a computer.

Sorry, as someone who has been involved with first UNIX
and then Linux for the last 30 years, I like to think I
know a thing or two about maintaining a computer.  Some
users, even fairly sophisticated ones, like to hold
developers responsible for really bad design choices.
That doesn't mean we think the whole product sucks, but
some people seem to take any criticism as an attack
to their beloved platform. Sometimes mistakes do need
to get pointed out, even in an otherwise great product.

If you can't handle it, stick to the fan club for 12
and under from now on.

Julf
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Re: Not enough memory

[Johan Helsingius]

Daniel Martin Yerga wrote:

> That's not crap, it's a very wise advise.
> If you want that everything works as it should, then only use
stable software from Extras and Ovi. You will able to update without
problems.

Sorry, but no. I am only using stable software from Ovi and Extras.
It still didn't work.

And blaming your users for your mistake of incorrectly
partitioning the flash memory is not very wise advise.

Julf
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Re: Not enough memory

[Johan Helsingius]

Nelson,

> I must say I am really disappointed at how painful it is to do an
> update on the N900.

I have to agree. I was especially annoyed by the crap on
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.1.1:

"There are reports that at least 42MB of free rootfs is needed for
 the update. You have probably installed unstable software from
 Extras-devel or other source with weak quality control. The simple
 solution is to uninstall anything not coming from Ovi and maemo.org
 Extras."

Julf
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Re: forcing north up on (ovi) map app

[Johan Helsingius]

Hi, Andre,

> See https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8126#c6 (though actually
> off-topic for that bug and in need of a separate report).

Great! Many thanks!

Julf
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forcing north up on (ovi) map app

[Johan Helsingius]

I assume I am not the only one somewhat frustrated with the
"new" "ovi map" map application on the N900. I assume (and
hope) it will at some point be upgraded/replaced with
something that can do voice instructions (in line with
the Nokia announcements for the Symbian phones), but for
now, does anyone know any way to force it into north-up
mode? Clicking on the top part of the compass rose makes
it go north up for just long enough that you have not quite
managed to orient yourself, before rotating back...

Julf
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Re: Unable to upgrade maemo 5 44-1 because of not enough disk space

[Johan Helsingius]

Marius,

> Reboot first.  Ubifs runs its garbage collector on boot and sometimes
> manages to free up amazing amounts of space.

That seems to have done it. Many thanks!

Is there any way to run the garbage collector without booting?

Julf
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Unable to upgrade maemo 5 44-1 because of not enough disk space

[Johan Helsingius]

Hi!

Trying to upgrade maemo 5, but get "not enough memory
in target location". No wonder, as I am down to 9M of
free space on the root filesystem. Suggestions for what
to delete? Anything that could be moved to /home?

Julf
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Re: Transfering contacts to N900

[Johan Helsingius]

> unfortunately, the process doesn't conclude successfully.

Same here - the "Mail for Exchange: First synchronisation" screen just hangs, 
with the
progress bars filled up, but neither the
"Finish" or "Next" buttons active.
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Re: BECOMEROOT

[Johan Helsingius]

Eero Tamminen wrote:

> Another reason why N800 etc software doesn't work on 770 is
> hardware constraints.  Less RAM, Flash and older OMAP version.
> I.e. "unfortunately" both HW and SW move forward...

But there really isn't any excuse for not allowing for a 
software compatibility layer to allow 770 software to run
on newer hardware. Currently I have to drag both a 770 and
a laptop with me on car trips - if I could run CarMan on my
810, I could leave both 770 and laptop at home...

Julf

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Re: N810 gps troubles

[Johan Helsingius]

Frederic,

> Well, GPS on n810 can be extremely frustrating (I had my shares of
> trouble with it) when you don't know anything about GPS (like most of
> us), because of its low sensitivity.

Indeed.

> I suggest you install maemo-mapper, mostly because it give you a
> better view of what is happening while GPS fix is in progress
> (compared to Maps).

Thanks! That is good advice!

> Moreover, if you never had a fix with your n810, the first fix for
> your geographical position can be extremely long (more than 12 minutes
> since it needs that time to download almanac for your position, this
> data is valid several weeks). And if you are moving or in a bad
> reception location, it can be very very long.

I am aware of that from my other GPS devices, but in this case
I made sure I had a fix here in Amsterdam before I left, and 
Amsterdam and London are not that far from each other as the
crow flies.

Julf

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Re: N810 gps troubles

[Johan Helsingius]

Had a rather depressing confirmation of the GPS troubles this
weekend. Went on a quick trip to London, and turned on the map
application as soon as I got on the Heathrow Express heading into
town. During the trip, the map application showed the GPS finding
3-5 satellites on the average, but it never managed to determine
the position. Nor during my walk to the hotel, nor during a
walk across St James's park, and not even overnight next to a corner
window on 5th floor - it just ran out of charge trying.

In the end I got back to Amsterdam without the GPS having acquired
a lock during the whole trip. Not very useful. 

A real bummer, because the 2 main applications I got my 810
for was mapping and in-car ODBII, and CarMan doesn't run on
the 810... :(

Sounds like I should sell my 810 and stick to the 770... :(

Julf

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Re: Getting a N810 abroad

[Johan Helsingius]

Yves,

> As a software developer and long time Linux user I'm would like to get an 
> N810.

Darn, instead of returning the 810 I got with an Austrian/Swiss keyboard
instead of a Dutch one, I should have kept it and resold it to you for the
Dutch price. Oh well, too late now :(

Julf

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Skype video?]

[Johan Helsingius]

Matt,

> Why does Thunderbird always send to individuals rather than the list for
> this mailing list? Weird!

Not at all weird, and not in any way Thunderbird-specific. The mailing
list keeps the sender address in the "From:" field, so responses go
to the original sender. Use "Reply All" if you want to send to the
whole list too.

Julf

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Re: Aw: Re: Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Johan Helsingius]

Mathias,

> thanks for that info. That's new for me and my next gadget should be the
> TomTom910 (and play a little bit with opentom.org )

Just be aware that to the great disappointment of the TomTom
3rd party community, TomTom has dropped support for the SDK.
So yes, it runs Linux, but unless you go the opentom route
(and don't get any navigation capabilities!), it's just
another closed box... :(

Julf

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Re: Aw: Re: Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Johan Helsingius]

Mathias Uebelacker wrote:
> I amanda using some versions off TomTom on an XDA, an IPAQ, Nokia 6610 (S60) 
> and on my Nokia 9510i (S80) and all my devices uing north up but my versions 
> are two years old and i never made an upgrade.

I have no experience of TomTom on PDA's/phones, but the
stand-alone TomToms definitely lack a north-up mode.

Julf

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Re: Aw: Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Johan Helsingius]

Mathias Uebelacker wrote:
> Navicore and TomTom are different companys

Totally different. My point was simply that lack of "north-up"
doesn't seem to be an issue for many users, if TomTom can be
a market leader without that feature.

Julf

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Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Johan Helsingius]

Missouga Dongi wrote:

> In terms of units sold the models bellow seem to lead:

In what market?

> I have not used any TomTom GPS so I can't comment on that but I own/owned
> 3 different models from Garmin and all of them give you the choice to
> select between north pointing maps and "mary-go-round" maps.

I know. TomTom doesn't. Despite that, TomTom as a company
seems to be the market leader in Europe.

> People who use rotating maps tend to get lost more easily and all it
> takes is a missed turn because they are not aware how they are globally 
> positioned. 

I think that depends on what they are used to.

I prefer "North Up", but only in a situation where I
actually watch a screen. When you drive, you should
*not* be watching a screen.

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Re: Poor GPS Navicore software

[Johan Helsingius]

Missouga Dongi wrote:

> The one feature that make this device worthless for me (to the point that
> I'll return it to the Nokia shop) is that you cannot have your maps pointing
> North. 

That misfeature doesn't seem to stop TomTom from being a
market leader...

Julf

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Re: New install files for N800

[Johan Helsingius]

Florian,

Any chance of a similar thing for the 770?

Julf


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