USB based video adapters

2008-10-28 Thread Jon Smirl
Has anyone tried something like this:
http://www.startech.com/item/USB2VGA-USB-20-to-VGA-Dual-Display-Adapter.aspx
Drivers for it are in the kernel.
And then use a wireless keyboard.

It would be cool if airline seats had USB displays in them and you
could plug your cell phone into them.
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB122477763884262815-lMyQjAxMDI4MjI0NjcyNzY3Wj.html

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slacker.com

2008-02-03 Thread Jon Smirl
Browsing to slacker.com freezes the browser. Is there a work around?
slacker.com is free full track streaming.

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Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?

2007-11-24 Thread Jon Smirl
On 11/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just ordered a N800 from Buy.com  during their Thanksgiving promotion ($190 
> USD).   I also ordered a iGo Stowaway keyboard from Amazon.com ($30 USD).  
> I'm looking forward to reciving it; I've wanted one of these since the 770 
> was introduced.
>
> Now I need to select some memory.
>
> I've read the Patriot Class 6 16GB module works with the N800 but I think 8GB 
> is probably enough for me.  Any reason I should get 16GB rather than 8GB?  
> Video storage, map caching, web caching?

I don't have 16GB, but I use all my extra space to keep emergency
videos for entertaining my three year old twins.


> Is Patriot memory a good choice?  Should I consider anything else?
>
> Does 16GB draw more power and substantially drain the battery?
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Re: Memory corruption during WLAN use: detailled analysis and workaround

2007-09-12 Thread Jon Smirl
On 9/11/07, Tilman Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A few weeks ago I had a very bad spontaneous crash of my 770 making it
> unbootable. The progress bar never showed up. I could reflash, but got
> suspicious about what might have caused it. I started searching for a
> memory checker and found:

Can you write protect the page getting corrupted and cause a kernel
OOPS on the write? That would generate a stack trace that would target
the offending code. Of course if DMA hardware is doing the write this
won't work.

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Re: Hardware wishlist?

2007-07-04 Thread Jon Smirl
On 7/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 04:23:09PM +0100, Alan Williamson wrote:
> > > I'd like a server-side USB port, so I can attach my alphasmart keyboard.
> > > Best keyboard I've ever used.  I don't think the port even needs to be
> > > powered (the keyuboard has its own internal power supply).
> >
> > Gets my vote too -- i would like to plug in a USB Network card -- yes i
> > am in places where they don't have wireless, but i have an RJ45 looking
> > at me with no way of using it!!!  :(
>
> In fact, a server-side USB port would provide a usable surrogate for
> practically any kind of peripheral you might otherwise ask for!  All
> that for just one piece of hardware on the N800!

On my 770 if you loaded the usb_gadget module it works. It just don't
have any power like a standard USB port is supposed to. But if you
plug it into a powered hub, you'll have power. I haven't tried this on
the N800.

I would like to see USB charging and USB OTG support made standard.
Almost all of the hardware is already in place to do this, but lack of
power out on the USB jack prevents it from being turned on. To be USB
standard compatible you have to supply some power to the OTG port. Get
rid of the Noikia specific changer and move to a USB based one, now I
only need to carry one charger for my phone and N800.

Freescale has the MC13783 for doing all of this. TI probably has
something similar.
http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MC13783&nodeId=01J4Fs4881

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Re: [maemo-users] Re: Note to Nokia Maemo team... we need (ok, would really like) this

2007-02-12 Thread Jon Smirl

On 2/12/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Not sure about that "easily" in your post, I bet people are actually
> sweating over every fraction of FPS improvement ;)
>
> --jakub

I hope so. Today I tried to read an article on www.theregister.co.uk and this site is 
unfortunately floating a Flash-based advert over the top of each article. When I went to 
read one article the N800 browser hung while it tried to display the Flash advert, and 
after 20 minutes it still hadn't finished displaying the advert. A further 5 minutes of 
"back" button pressing later succeeded in extricating myself from the page and 
disabling the Flash plug-in entirely. About 30 minutes later the device shut down because 
the battery was low!!



maps.yahoo.com with flash interface doesn't work
www.zillow.com which uses flash doesn't work

Neither of these display video.
They seem to hang forever.


It's not just video where the Flash player is woeful, it's even standard Flash 
adverts. I wish sites would not use them but they do, the only option is to 
leave Flash disabled - it may as well not have been shipped with the N800.

The Flash player provided with OS 2006 is actually better than the Flash player 
provided with OS 2007 as the former will not play certain CPU intensive content 
whereas the latter will play such content and consequently sucks up 100% CPU 
and hangs the device. I know which I prefer!

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Re: [maemo-users] Note to Nokia Maemo team... we need (ok, would really like) this

2007-02-12 Thread Jon Smirl

On 2/12/07, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 2/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1104222
> >
> >The N800 is a fantastic N-Series device and we need to be able
> >to handle things like YouTube easily.
> >
> >Thanks!
>
> Not sure about that "easily" in your post, I bet people are actually
> sweating over every fraction of FPS improvement ;)

to me easily would be a direct play option rather than a conversion
method like vidconvert -- which I love, but takes some planning,
especially these days as quite a few people seem to be hitting it
pretty hard.


The solution to doing real-time video format conversion probably lies
in the 3D hardware that doesn't drivers/doc for it yet.



Glad to hear people are working on it!!


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Re: [maemo-users] Re: Two power management settings

2007-02-11 Thread Jon Smirl

On 2/11/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Neil MacLeod wrote:
> I also don't think it's possible to overcharge Li-Ion batteries these
> days (unless they're made by Sony). :)
>

Oops, the BP-5L battery in the N800/770 is a Lithium Polymer design - I'm 
fairly confident these also can't be overcharged but not 100% sure...


But does the continuous drain of having the display on with AC effect
the number of recharge cycles you can get out of the battery? Nokia
hardware engineers are going to have to answer this one.

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Re: [maemo-users] Re: Two power management settings

2007-02-11 Thread Jon Smirl

On 2/11/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've asked for two separate AC and Battery settings, plus independent 
brightness settings for AC and Battery. I also mentioned adding support for 
screensavers which should probably only kick in the device is on AC power.


I wonder if the hardware is smart enough to directly run off from the
wall power while the unit is plugged in and not to channel the power
through the batteries. You don't want the use of the device as a
desktop clock to harm the batteries.


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Re: [maemo-users] Two power management settings (was: FM Radio - suggestions)

2007-02-10 Thread Jon Smirl

On 2/10/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jon Smirl wrote:
> Is the N800 smart enough to know when it is on AC and not blank the
> display? The N770 didn't appear to have this feature. The clock could
> be set as a screen saver when on AC power.
>

I think it's a mistake that there is only one set of power management timeouts 
- there should be separate timeouts for battery and AC power.

With two power management settings you would specify much longer dim and 
blanking screen timeout values (perhaps even infinite) when the device is on AC 
power, but specify short values (perhaps 2 and 5 minutes) when on battery power.


There is a significant application area being missed by not having two
power settings. When you get to your desk and plug the device in it
should, if you configure it to, leave the screen on and run a screen
saver type application. This screen saver could work as a clock, music
player with album art, show pictures of the kids, show your calendar,
etc, etc. This passive behavior should be automatic as soon as the
device is plugged into AC.

This application area is what chumby, www.chumby.com, is all about.
The N770/N800 can be useful on the desk as well as on the go.


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Re: [maemo-users] FM Radio - suggestions

2007-02-10 Thread Jon Smirl

On 2/10/07, Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 10:03 +0200, Kalle Valo wrote:
> "ext David Hagood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Last - It would be nice to allow the alarm system to start the radio -
> > for a clock radio function.
>
> Hey, that's an excellent idea! I want that feature too.
>
> (I'm not involved with FM radio in anyway, just acting here as a N800
> user.)

It would be good if that was only available if the FM radio applet were
on the home page, and if removing the applet told you it was
reconfiguring any alarms to not use the radio. Just so it's really easy
to turn it off, change station, etc when the alarm goes off.


I'd like to see FM radio integrated with the Internet radio applet so
that there is only one applet on the desktop. This would also allow
coordinating  muting of the radio streams, FM and Internet appear to
be on two different audio paths. If you turn on the Internet radio the
FM radio continues to play and is mixed in. That's probably not what
you want, but your do want alerts from the desktop mixed in.

Alarm functions would be nice. The radio app could also display a
large clock when open. The alarm could be made smart too, if Internet
or FM were not available it could try the other and then fall back to
recorded music just to make sure the alarm is heard.

Check out Chumby, http://www.chumby.com/
Chumby is a wifi clock radio that allows you to download various flash
applets to customize your experience. It would be very easy to make
the N800 emulate the Chumby. There are links to example widgets on the
home page.

I'd like to see a world clock for an alarm where is shows the current
day/night line.

Is the N800 smart enough to know when it is on AC and not blank the
display? The N770 didn't appear to have this feature. The clock could
be set as a screen saver when on AC power.

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Re: [maemo-users] Re: Charge from a USB port.

2007-02-01 Thread Jon Smirl

On 2/1/07, Larry Battraw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For example, this guy has a power injector he's used for USB Host mode that
> simply uses a 7805 regulator (pumps up to 1A) and a 9V battery. USB is
> supposed to have a current limiting power source controlling the power sent
> to a device based on the devices requests. That 7805 doesn't do this and
> simply follows ohms law above, yet it doesn't tend to break things because
> it keeps the 5V steady enough.

 I'm not sure how this is relevant since this power injector is meant
to provide a tiny amount of current at 5V, just enough to tell the 770
something is plugged in.  It doesn't actually power the 770.


The OMAP3430 processor has a companion power management chip, the
TWL4030. Is this used in the N800? If so, it's spec sheet says that it
supports battery charging from USB. Hard to tell how it works with no
doc.

http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&contentId=4634&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=ProductBulletin+OT+twl4030

Maybe the next Nokia tablet will use something like the Freescale MX31
family which has public documentation.




> (Link:
> http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2006/01/usb-power-injector-2.html) This is
> also the same method used by a whole slew of home made ipod and phone
> chargers.

   All the phone chargers I've seen have a significant internal
resistance-- they are _not_ designed the same way as devices that
charge directly from USB.  All the USB phone chargers I've seen have a
inline adapter of some sort (including Nokia's new USB charger) to
boost the voltage and limit the current.  As mentioned, Thoughtfix's
injector tells the 770 it has a USB device plugged in and does not
power the 770.

>
> Simon's solution sounds like what I would do.

  Simon's solution scares me :-)  I messed around enough to see how
easy it is to start feeding far too much current in very quickly.  USB
ports are typically current-limited, but it still concerns me.

Larry
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Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800

2007-01-31 Thread Jon Smirl
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Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800

2007-01-31 Thread Jon Smirl

On 1/31/07, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 1/31/07, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No power is also tied up in implementing the kernel USB OTG driver for
> the device. The spec says you can't advertise OTG support if the port
> has no power.

Neither the 770 or the N800 advertises USB OTG support. A Nokia dev
mentioned a few days ago that the N800 definitely does *not* support


Load the USB gadget driver and it will advertise OTG support.
Works on the 770. I don't have an 800 yet.


USB OTG. There were also a few threads (not sure if it was here or
ITT) mentioning that the kernel included in the N800 firmware does not
include the bits necessary to enable USB host mode so there is some
doubts that the N800 hardware even supports USB host. Some folks are
recompiling the kernel to add those bits back in but I don't think
anyone has successfully had the N800 working as a USB host as of yet.

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Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800

2007-01-31 Thread Jon Smirl

On 1/31/07, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 12:41:37PM -0500, Jon Smirl wrote:
> On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >That's exactly what I've done: I modified a powered hub to inject power to
> >the N800 too. It used to work on the 770, but not on the N800, so maybe
> >there's something else involved which I'm not aware of.
>
> They should have also made the N770/800 chargeable from the USB port.
> That way you can avoid carrying a charger around and charge it from
> your laptop or phone charger (most phones are switching to USB
> charging).

When you plug the USB cable, the Nokia tablets unmount the MMC card so
that it could be exported via USB as a block device.

It would be *very* annoying if I couldn't play mp3s from the MMC card
while the tablet was being charged.


Simply charging by USB does not count as an active USB connection.
You can charge without unmounting the device.

With some creative software you could also remove the need to have
only one side using the MMC card. Doing that would probably require
exporting the card vs NFS instead of as a USB block device. Plugging
in the USB cable could automatically trigger loading/unloading the USB
networking module and start the in-kernel NFS server.

Another way would be to add a simple UI that pops up when an active
USB host is connected. It would just ask if you wanted the MMC
exported over USB and give you a chance to say no.



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Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800

2007-01-31 Thread Jon Smirl

On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That's exactly what I've done: I modified a powered hub to inject power to
the N800 too. It used to work on the 770, but not on the N800, so maybe
there's something else involved which I'm not aware of.


They should have also made the N770/800 chargeable from the USB port.
That way you can avoid carrying a charger around and charge it from
your laptop or phone charger (most phones are switching to USB
charging).

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Re: [maemo-users] Wired keyboard and N800

2007-01-31 Thread Jon Smirl

On 1/31/07, Luca Donaggio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Does anybody tried to use a USB keyboard (attached to a modified USB hub for
power injection, of course) with the N800 in USB host mode?
It doesn't work for me, keybord led doesn't even light up!


There is no power supplied to the USB port. The only way to make it
work is to plug a powered hub into the port and then plug the keyboard
into the hub.

I consider this a significant design flaw in the N800/770. It would
really be nice if there was a small amount of power supplied to the
USB port, just enough to run a keyboard or memory stick. Less than
100ma at 5V. Sure it will draw the batteries down but that is the
price you pay. If you have the N800/770 on wall power the USB port
should supply power all of the time.

No power is also tied up in implementing the kernel USB OTG driver for
the device. The spec says you can't advertise OTG support if the port
has no power.

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Re: [maemo-users] n800 not working at hotel hotspot

2007-01-14 Thread Jon Smirl

On 1/14/07, Robson, Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm at a ramada hotel typing this email into Internet Explorer because for
some reason, although my n800 picks up the hotspot loud and clear, the
browser doesn't seem to redirect to the guest registration page and allow me
to browse. I just get a message "network problem" in a dialog box on the
screen.


If you have it loaded try 'wget webpage' from a command prompt. That
might give you a better clue as to what is failing.



Should I expect this to happen at many hotspots ? How do these things work
anyaway, they seem to hijack your attempt to fetch a home page and redirect
you to a terms-and-conditions acceptance page. The access is free, but you
have to click 'accept' to continue.

Is there something different I should be doing to make this work - there was
nothing I needed to do differently in my laptop.


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