Re: Recipient not found on server
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since reinstalling OS2008, I have not been able to get outgoing email to work. Does anyone know what this error message means? ... It probably means that you're using an SMTP-server outside it's own network. That is the most probable explanation, but I think it's worth mentioning that this error message may result from various errors in the Email client: As I've understood it, Recipient not found actually means server returned error at RCPT TO stage -- user can then make educated guesses as to which error it actually was: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201 tcpdump or server logs are probably the only way to be sure -- trying a known good server like gmail might be good first option though. Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
bugzilla not editable
Just in case no-one's reported this yet: bugs.maemo.org has been
read-only for four days. Below is an example of what happens when I try
to vote (at around 11:05 UTC today).
Jussi
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Software error:
DBD::mysql::db do failed: Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
to database 'maemobugs' at /usr/share/perl5/Bugzilla/DB/Mysql.pm line 196
Bugzilla::DB::Mysql::bz_lock_tables('Bugzilla::DB::Mysql=HASH(0x8cfc0e4)',
'bugs READ', 'products READ', 'votes WRITE', 'cc READ', 'bug_group_map
READ', 'user_group_map READ', 'group_group_map READ', 'cc AS
selectVisible_cc READ', ...) called at
/usr/lib/cgi-bin/bugzilla/votes.cgi line 127
main::show_user() called at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/bugzilla/votes.cgi line 76
For help, please send mail to the webmaster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), giving
this error message and the time and date of the error.
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Modest feedback (was: How do i uninstall the default Email program?)
Tim Ashman wrote: Hey I tried modest and how do I voice my opinion ... As usual with free software projects, there are mailing lists and a bug database: https://garage.maemo.org/mail/?group_id=9 http://bugs.maemo.org (Communication/Modest) Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: libgpsbt and libgpsmgr debs/OS2008 2007.51-3
Larry Battraw wrote: I managed to remove these packages by accident and I'm wondering: are the deb packages available anywhere? I looked around quite a bit but couldn't find anything but older versions for OS2007 and so forth. They seem to be free packages and so I'm puzzled why the binaries wouldn't be available somewhere. Unfortunately they became closed in OS2008. Binaries are included in the local nokia binary repository that gets installed with the SDK. Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Accessing GPS on Nokia N810
Tuomas Kulve wrote: Petr Stetiar wrote: Because 'gpsdriver' seems to be some kind of middleware between userspace applications and kernel driver. It powers On/Off the GPS, uploads also How does it power the GPS on/off? I.e. how do you ask it to do it? In all normal situations you'd use system libraries that do it for you (like liblocation, I suppose). If you really want to do it by hand, take a look at gpsctrl.h: gpsctrl_set_chip_on() gpsctrl_set_chip_off() Somewhat surprisingly this is in libgpsbt-package. Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
osso-rss-feed-reader source (was Re: N800 user unhappy with OS2008 upgrade...)
Michael R. Head wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 01:17 +0100, Luca Ognibene wrote: Are you guys talking about this? http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.0/free/source/o/osso-rss-feed-reader/ Not all of the dependencies are available: [sbox-CHINOOK_ARMEL: ~] fakeroot apt-get build-dep osso-rss-feed-reader Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Build-Depends dependency for osso-rss-feed-reader cannot be satisfied because the package osso-rss-feed-reader-lib-dev cannot be found osso-rss-feed-reader-lib source is available but depends on unavailable osso-rss-feed-reader-l10n-mr. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2992 There seem to be quite few bugs like this (or maybe I've just been unlucky)... shouldn't buildability in chinook be a pre-requirement to uploading source there? Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: updates as available but not installable
Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote: I am running RX-44_2008SE_1.2007.42-18_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin. I have added http://repository.maemo.org/ chinook free non-free and am running red pill mode. The application manager lists 3 updates as available but not installable: libglade2-0 makedev Operating System Is this a known issue? You've added a development repository as a package source, you shouldn't be surprised if weird conflicts come up. There have been several new firmwares after 42-18 btw, you might want to upgrade. HTH, Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: New member...new help understanding how to download, and install apps....
Karl Eichwalder wrote: I just went for openssh on my N810 (the same software should work on your N800, if you run the latest firmware). I basically did: 1/ Enable Red Pill mode: http://hildon-app-mgr.garage.maemo.org/redpill.html 2/ Add the Maemo 4 Chinook SDK tools repository: http://maemo.org/development/tools/ 3/ Install openssh using the Application Manager. Steps 1 2 are unneeded. openssh is available in OS2008 in Maemo Extras repository as a user installable package. HTH, Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Updating maps N810
DrFredC.com wrote: Don't know -- same thing for the n800. I've been getting the same message for the weather report desktop app -- Since around Christmas. The map and weather apps seem to work fine, so I've got to the point of just checking to see if it's been cleared up once a week or so. On a similar note -- my app manager seems to continually hang at downloading updated catalogs at about 1 meg. One must gather that this is the sort of stuff one must come to expect when depending upon open source freeware support? Application Manager and Map are not open source and not really freeware either. Maybe you had some other derogatory words in mind? Seriously speaking, all these problems are probably fallout from the repository mess during the holidays: I assume Application Manager has downloaded a broken (unsigned) package and for some reason won't remove it from the package cache so it would be downloaded again -- removing and installing again will probably work. Application Manager should of course just cope with the this, but I don't see how ranting helps the situation (I'm mostly referring to your post about Red Pill mode). If you just want to vent, maybe you could do it in a way that doesn't involve so many other peoples mailboxes. [EMAIL PROTECTED], perhaps? Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: How to install skype on the N810 with OS2008?
sebastian maemo wrote: Sure. You're missing the following basic repository: deb http://repository.maemo.org/ chinook free non-free That's the SDK repo, _not_ a basic user repository. Installing packages from there is certainly possible, but results may vary. Quote from http://repository.maemo.org: These repositories are meant to be used with the 'apt-get' tool only within the SDK environment Any tablet application that has a dependency to this repository should be considered broken. I would try Neils suggestion. Jussi -- Jussi Kukkonen ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: How to install skype on the N810 with OS2008?
Ognen Duzlevski wrote: Jussi Kukkonen wrote: I have the same issue on N800 and the above advice will definitely not work. The issue is that skype is looking for a libhildonfm2 version 1.9.49 and the available one is 1.9.46. As far as I can tell OS version 2.2007.50-2 for N800 has libhildonfm2 1.9.49. See also http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/changes/50-2_vs_44-4_comparison.html Flashing to 2.2007.50-2 should work. What I don't understand is why I should need to re-flash to fix this (bumped into the same advice on internettablettalk.com). You can also contact Skype and ask them to release a working package for previous OS versions. Installing libraries from the SDK repo may also work, but don't count on it... I imagine flashing is the easiest choice. HTH, Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Package categories are being misused
Neil MacLeod wrote: I can only see this being solved by two things: 1. Insisting on the use of r.m.o and r.m.o/extras repositories, don't use third-party repositories 2. Having a check in procedure for updated new (even updated) packages whereby a package is reviewed prior to wider publication (eg. extras-devel would be ideal as a staging area) Item #1 is a personal choice issue - we should all try to avoid using and publicising third-party repositories, that way they will eventually disappear. Agreed, and #1 may well work on the category issue too: I'm pretty sure that if we file bugs on the misbehaving applications and keep publicly humiliating the continuing offenders, we can make things better even without the bureocracy of a check-in procedure. Btw, I'm not saying we don't need Extras masters (the checkin/upload people). We probably do, but getting that system working is a hard problem. Community pressure is an immediate low-risk, low-resource solution to this particular problem. About Extras masters or a check-in procedure: a smooth way to start this would be to make the checks happen post-upload in the beginning. Developers would work just like now, but the masters would have the right to remove the package if they see problems with it. This way any problems with the procedure (like long upload queues, see Debian a few years back) wouldn't drive developers away from Garage. This of course assumes we have people willing to be repository masters... If a review process isn't favoured or possible, the Application Manager should be modified to ignore any application which is not in a pre-existing (ie. approved) category, although this could become inflexible and undesirable in the long term unless the available approved categories can be updated on-line (but then the approved list may be open to abuse if it's maintained by Nokia...) That would also work if the application manager put all packages with an unidentified category into category Others (or something like it). Jussi -- Jussi Kukkonen ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Package categories are being misused
Andrew already brought up the too-many-repositories problem, maybe I should revitalize the other repository discussion: The application-categories-are-useless one. We still do not have a category list that would be just right for internet tablets, but that's a difficult problem and I'm not tackling it right now. I'm aiming for the low-hanging fruit, namely packages that A) have a category to themselves or B) shouldn't be visible in Application Manager Fixing these should be quite easy and would enhance the usability of Application Manager significantly by halving the number of categories. If you are a maintainer of one of these packages, please try to fix the problems. If you think I'm wrong, please explain. Thanks! - Jussi A) These packages have their own private category (and they shouldn't). Using the defaults + Maemo Extras + Modest repositories boingomobile: Boingo canola2:Canola (how about Multimedia) maemoscrobbler: misc (how about Multimedia) modest: extras (how about Communication) mnotify:connectivity (how about Communication) gnokii: comm (how about Communication or Commandline) load-applet:utilities(how about Accessories or Utilities) free42: scientific (how about Accessories,Utilities,Tools) rapier: religion B) These packages look like they should be dependencies and not visible python* (most packages at least) libgnokii3 libuiw libmpd0 videocenter-ci-plugins-base videocenter-plugins vc-epg-widget ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800, apps crash when accessing the file manager
Kahlil Johnson wrote: I don't have partial or list folder. You sure is the right path? there Is no list folder under /etc/apt/ only folder is apt.conf.d an inside there are few files. 00-smallcache 50gpgv and 99-docpurge. /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ HTH, Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: further beating on OS2008 beta
James Sparenberg wrote: But I find a relatively common use case for terminal involves switching terminals when in fullscreen mode - more so than switching apps. And in full screen mode (maximising terminal space), tabs really help this. Press Home key and thumb the terminal you want from the window list. (it would be nice if the terminal would e.g. show the current directory name in the window title though) Not very practical actually. If the screen updates (which if say I'm compiling remotely it's constantly doing) then as soon as the home widget pops up it closes and you can't use it. [clip] No, it does not close. The menu stays on top while Xterm updates below it (OS v1.2007.44-4). 1. close the keyboard 2. put away the stylus 3. change hand position and minimize the screen 4. use home key open the list 5. change windows 6. re-maximize No offence, but it's really starting to sound like you're complaining before giving the home key method a chance... That list is quite far from reality. All solutions to this problem are compromises, but as far as I'm concerned, the compromise in OS2008 is a damn good one: For the price of one additional key press we get maximal screen estate. As an added bonus the problem is solved platform wide, not just for one program. - Jussi -- Jussi Kukkonen http://koti.welho.com/jkukkone/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: No 'NEXT' key in acrobat reader
Dongi wrote: What I'm proposing is to make the HARDKEY_SELECT key a next page key in fullscreen mode. Right now the HARDKEY_SELECT duplicates the HARDKEY_FULLSCREEN one so I think some functionality is lost. Please use the bugzilla. In a mailing list suggestions like this just get lost... The right developer/designer never sees them, or they see them at the wrong time. Not that this particular case is going anywhere in Bugzilla either. Filed 2006-08-07, resolved REMIND and then 15 months of silence. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737 I filed a bug on using undocumented resolutions (I'm actually interested in finding out how REMINDing can resolve something): https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2365 -Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Windows Mobile Phone detected as a PDA - can't set as Phone
Ivan N. Zlatev wrote: Also does someone have a clue how can I express a vote for the Bluetooth PAN support mentioned here https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1195. Login to bugzilla (register if needed), click Vote for this bug. That should work. I seem not to have access to the actual proposal here - https://maemo.org/community/wiki/bluetooth_pan_proposal.html. Try simple http if you do not want to login: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/bluetooth_pan_proposal.html -jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Questions #3: root
Thomas Leavitt wrote: I also noticed that /etc/shells has a long list of shells. It seems just slightly strange to me that, on a device this resource constrained, they'd waste even that many bytes by not truncating this file... makes me wonder what other potential optimizations haven't been done. The savings in this case would be at most 0.0001% of the flash memory use and RAM footprint. When maemo developers have time to work on optimizations like this, we'll be doing great... I also wonder how the synaptic install package managed to add a line referencing itself to /etc/sudoers... if the app installer permits modifications of this sort to be made to /etc/sudoers, doesn't that suggest someone could simply write an app that added the line below, or write a malicious app that gave itself root privileges? The app installer runs as root just like every other package manager on any linux distro. When you install a package, the post- and pre-install scripts naturally run as root. So yes, what you suggest is possible, and this is not at all maemo-specific. See SELinux or AppArmor for solutions. Incidentally, this can be seen as a selling point for centralized repositories: The repo administrator has at least a theoretical possibility of checking the install scripts... What's the default password for user? Will changing it affect anything, since obviously the system auto-starts? Password is not set by default, IIRC. The GUI will still autologin after you've set the password. Sshing in becomes possible with the passwd. I typically unset the root passwd after I've setup passwd and sudo-rights for user just to be sure. HTH, Jussi ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Can we use Ajaxterm for greater security when connecting through public wifi hotspots?
Oouc wrote: Can we use Ajaxterm for greater security when connecting through public wifi hotspots? I searched maemo-users mailing list and the main website and could not find ajaxterm. So I wondered if it was possible or feasible on the N800. As far as I know, ajaxterm is a server-side application that'll give you access to the server even from clients that do not have a real terminal/ssh client available. I can't see how it would be useful (let alone more secure) on an internet tablet, as you can install xterm and ssh client or even ssh server if you need them. -jussi -- Jussi Kukkonen http://koti.welho.com/jkukkone/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
new firmware fixes loss of sensitivity (was: Re: The new N800 firmware (2007SE_4.2007.26-8))
Hanno Zulla wrote: Andreas Poisel schrieb: * Andreas Poisel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070706 14:44]: Using the new firmware the touch-screen refuses to work after a few seconds. It's the same after each reboot. Touch-screen comes back after waiting awhile. Quite strange though. I see no change whatsover in touchscreen sensitivity with the new firmware. The touchscreen worked fine before and works just as fine now. My N800 has suffered from bug 1069 (Touchpad loss of pressure sensitivity)* for pretty much it's whole life: The screen has been replaced once but this was only a temporary fix, as after two months the right hand side of the screen was again more like a stab-screen than a touch-screen... I was going to take the device to maintenance again on monday. I decided to install 4.2007.26-8 yesterday and the problem miraculously disappeared... the whole touch screen is very sensitive again. -jussi * https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1069 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Linksys WRTG54GL + Nokia 770 connection lost
On Sun, 2006-02-19, Primorec wrote: Upgrading the 770 firmware did NOT make any difference in regard to my basic problem. Connection is lost after 2-3 minutes of browsing. BUT if I listen to Internet radio, the WiFi connection between 770 and WRTG54GL is rock solid. ... Any other hint is very welcome Constantly pinging from the device works too (yes, I know this wasn't the kind of hint you were hoping for). There is a bug for this in the maemo bugzilla: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=329 Add yourself to the CC list to keep yourself informed. It seems this is _not_ related to the brand or model of the router (at least not only): My 770 constantly drops connections at my home network while my friend had no such problems with his device on the same network... Also, Patrik Flykt (@Nokia) said Yesterday we finally received two units that drop wlan connections. We are investigating the issue. (This was three-four weeks ago) -- Jussi Kukkonen ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
