Re: GIMP on n800?
Thomas Armagost wrote: http://kalle.vahlman.googlepages.com/gimp-on-n800.png Is this screenshot a fake? The application seems to project over the useless border area on the right of the screen. I thought hildonized applications couldn't write to that part of the screen? Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: DVD to tablet
DrFredC.com wrote: For Windows users interested in taking their DVDs with them on their tablets via a single pass encoding... (Note : other options may be available for other OSs). * Get and install Handbrake DVD43 (Free downloads -- search google for links) ... Note -- Handbrake (v 0.9.1) doesn't appear to properly handle encoding DVD TV episodes. It only encodes the first show on the DVD. A work around may be to queing individual files in the video_ts folder with Handbrake. Handbrake works well for me (not tried DVD43 - I used dvd decryptor). Manually selecting the correct title and chapters should allow you to get at other episodes on a DVD which has more than one. And for foreign language stuff, Handbrake lets you bake in the appropriate subtitles. Very handy for watching my DVDs while away from home. -- Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: further beating on OS2008 beta
First - well done for making this a standard component. Second - I have not tried it no my N800 yet. Now... Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 01:49 -0800, ext James Sparenberg wrote: Why did they move the button bar to the bottom. Down there is steals valuable screen real-estate from you. It steals screen estate no matter where it is. The bottom-one is (again) consistent with the rest of the device, and it is easier to reach with fingers (remember the N810 has the keyboard so you hold it a bit differently in your hands!) Have to disagree - it is relatively simple to shrink the text and recover horizontal space. Vertical space is in much shorter supply when you need the on-screen keyboard. Adding a toolbar would leave less space (though removing tabs might help with vertical space) You can also hide the whole toolbar if you want. That might be good. Why did they remove the useful tabs and replace it with multiple windows? Given that there is no WM in the traditional sense you can't resize and move between them easily. Tabs afforded the ability to quickly manage multiple term windows (my record on the IT is 10 tabs.) Windows bring this to a grinding halt. Because the platform style is multiple windows. And tabs wasted quite a lot of *terminal window* space. But I find a relatively common use case for terminal involves switching terminals when in fullscreen mode - more so than switching apps. And in full screen mode (maximising terminal space), tabs really help this. I appreciate not everyone does this, but I suspect it's a common pattern ...Also if you have 10 tabs, you cannot see pretty much anything relevant from the tab titles. Sure your case of 10 tabs is a bit special too - maybe you could just use screen instead? Screen is not so good if you need to scroll - and with onscreen keyboard and now the button bar Multiple windows is consistent with the rest of the platform. Command line access is fundamentally different from the rest of the UI. Typical use cases may be different enough to justify such a non-standard components. I also think it makes sense for the same reason the browser does not have tabs: Tabs work a lot better in a large desktop where you can drag windows around and group some of them together. Since everything is fullscreen, tabs would just duplicate the function of the window switcher. You probably won't have *that* many apps open at once in a tablet anyway compared to a desktop computer anyway. Agreed that tabs CAN be a pain. Yes, Pidgin, I'm looking at you. Two lines of chat is really not enough. Must investigate command line options :-) But well done on the new O/S version. I'm looking forward to getting the time to upgrade and try. -- Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: need a community board?
Peter Flynn wrote: Berhan SOYLU wrote: I think we need a community message board. Nowadays, there comes nearly 20 mails per a day...mail group is so primitive for this..Is there anyone who knows why we don't have o message board like phpbb, smf or something like etc...? I can only speak for myself but the last thing on earth I want is a web-based message-board. I want the messages to come to me, not me have to go to the messages. The forms-based mechanism for replies is horribly clumsy on all the ones I have used, and the repositories don't thread properly, and people fill up their messages with all kinds of fancy HTML formatting. 20 mails a day is nothing. I can filter them, killfile a thread if needed, and keep the ones I want for reference -- on *my* disk, so I can refer to them whenever, rather than relying on someone else's server. No problem in having it both ways, with the list replicated to a BB front-end like LISTSERV, with a proper searchable archive and a form for posting. But please let's not drop the email mechanism: it's too valuable. I too prefer the mail interface to any web forum or board I've seen. The disadvantage of email is if you come late to a discussion - and that could be addressed by a good searchable, threaded archive. But what about a mail to nntp gateway? Usenet (remember news, anyone) is a good server-based system with client caching for fast access. And dialup users can pick the threads they want to download. Just a thought. Also, if you're using mail to keep track of busy lists, a good client is important. Any suggestions? -- Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: kphone on N800
Gopinath Rao Sinniah wrote: Hi, I've managed to compile kphone VoIP for N800/N770. when I tried to make a call, it gives an error message that the sound device is busy. I've tried terminating the esd but still the same. I've also changed the code and it says wrong channel allocation for the pcm device. Any suggestion to overcome this problem. Is there a way to use dmix for pcm to solve this. I have no idea really, but was just reading the quick start guide (I was looking at installing the development environment), and I spotted the following. It might be relevant. For audio programming maemo has two main APIs: GStreamer and ESound. Usually system sounds, such as sounds for notifying user for an event, e.g. battery low, is played through ESound. More sophisticated operations, for example playing music files or recording audio, should be generally done using GStreamer which provides better performance and a much more flexible API. Most of the maemo’s computing intensive GStreamer elements are implemented using the device’s DSP which greatly enhances their performance. Linux kernel also has two lower level audio interfaces: ALSA and OSS. From these ALSA is supported through a plug-in package which is part of the SDK. The legacy API OSS is not supported by the kernel, but ALSA has an OSS emulation system, which works for most purposes. For the audio APIs’ documentation, see the GStreamer web site[23], ESound white paper[9] and ALSA project’s web site[1]. More in-depth material is available in the Multimedia Architecture guide[59]. [1] Alsa project’s home page. http://www.alsa-project.org/. [9] Esound white paper. http://developer.gnome.org/doc/whitepapers/esd/. [23] Gstreamer project’s home page. http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/. [59] Multimedia architecture. http://maemo.org/development/documentation/ how-tos/4-x/multimedia_architecture.html. Good luck with the hacking - more and better VOIP is needed! Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 update in red pill mode.
Huang Shan wrote: Sorry for being so late on this subject. Stil let me add my experience. I also updated my N800 in red pill mode. Here my story http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8992 There is (at least one) broken library on the nokia site which overwirtes your beloved software on N800. The only cure is reinstall. It is not a quality delivery by nokia. I did not issue a bug report, probably it is not a bug only a nuisance. I reported it on meamo-developers mailing list. Either nobody cares or the nokia developers do not frequent the devel-mailing list. From that thread on internettablettalk:- ] ] I also just did a magic.sys update in the AppManager ] ( I am not sure this has anything to do with the problem). There is a warning not to update magic.sys. It states that for now it does nothing sensible, but that in the future it may be a bit like the apt dist-upgrade. Do not use it. It is a silly package. It may or may not be responsible for your problem, but it's a good suspect. I know that I'd cheerfully upgraded everything but that in red pill mode many times without incident - until the week that the latest OS came out, when I broke the browser. Maybe unrelated to the red pill, maybe not. Under the circumstances, I did a backup and flashed the new O/S. Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Updates in red-pill mode
I didn't think there was a warning about red pill mode on the Wiki, so I added one to the red pill page: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/applicationmanagerredpillmode/ That might flush out an official comment (or not). regards, Paul Ryan Pavlik wrote: Updating in red pill mode is just asking to brick your device. I've heard of it happening almost every time. Use red pill mode as a temporary workaround for a single package, not as a way of life, no matter how much of a power user you are. The device just doesn't support it. Ryan Jonathan Greene wrote: I can't answer that as I have nothing to do with software releases... thats a Nokia / Maemo team question. I think you just need to tread lightly with Red Pill mode knowing it's an official unofficial (or perhaps unsupported) method of doing things. On 9/11/07, *Pedro Rodrigues de Almeida* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jonathan, Why then should there be patches to some of the OS 2006 files? Do you mean that these patches could simply be experimental even though they have a version later than the ones installed in the 770? Does anybody at Nokia releases patches to essential OS 2006 system files which can be updated under red-pill mode? Cheers, Pedro - Original message - From: Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pedro Rodrigues de Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Maemo users maemo-users@maemo.org mailto:maemo-users@maemo.org Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007, 22:27:15 CEST Subject: Re: Updates in red-pill mode Welcome to the Matrix I don't think Red Pill mode is advised for general use or system updates. It's really more of a backdoor. I've used it to get Python to install in the past as it seems to get past the missing library error though I'm not sure that's so much of a good thing either. On 9/11/07, Pedro Rodrigues de Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have realized that in red-pill mode a series of system patches are available for installing, e.g., patches fr browser controls, opera etc. I have installed some of these patches - not all - and my 770 became more unstable ad even crashed to the point of aving to remove the battery to be able to reboot it. Opera also got a new look as new, orange scroll bars replaced the old ones. Is it recommended to install the updates in red-pill mode or is this unwise? Thanks, Pedro ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: H.264 playback
DrFredC.com wrote: I've loaded a 115Meg MP4 video I did on to my N800 of my son's soccer team trip to Paris and Spain http://snohomishsoccer.com/team/pmwiki.php/Spain/Spain this summer. With N800s Media Player, there's a message that it doesn't have the codex to play mp4s. MPlayer (maemo) supposedly plays mp4s, but chokes on this particular MP4 file, chopping up the audio and only rarely showing a change in video displays. This MP4 file plays fine with QuickTime on my XP laptop. Perhaps I don't have the optimum mp4 player or codex installed. Perhaps, because the MP4 comes from a widescreen DVD format compressed to a smaller internet uploadbable MP4 file ([EMAIL PROTECTED] fps), it doesn't play well Nokia's MP4 MPlayer either because it's a 'non-standard' frame size, too many fps or whatever. MPlayer seems to try to process the file to display in full screen rather than it's native 512x288 format. If so, that probably requires way more processing power than the N800 has. I haven't had time to sort out what's going on. I believe the N800 hardware does the scaling to full-screen, so that's probably not the problem. On the other hand, the utilities that encode video for N800 that I've seen tend to use MUCH lower frame rates for that sort of resolution, suggesting that the frame rate may be the issue. Not an authoritative answer, I'm afraid. What about the battery lifetime when watching videos (e.g., stored on the memory card?) Have not watched a video all the way through, but I'd guess you should be able to manage one! That said, video decoding time (high CPU and display on) might be less than browsing time (low CPU and display on) or non-standby running time (variable CPU and display mostly off), so the 8 hours running time the battery indicator predicts on a full charge may not be realistic. I haven't been able to play any prolonged video to determine battery life. Would be interested in real-life figures. I never seem to do as well with battery life as theory suggests :( -- Paul ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Power Problems
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:01:18AM +0300, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:44 +0100, ext Frederik Ferner wrote: In my case, I cannot seen any obvious signs but most of the time I plug the device into power it doesn't even start charging. I managed to start charging it with a few attempts usually. Today I don't seem to have any luck, best I got was that it started to charge but by the time I've put it back on the table and looked again it seems to have stopped charging again. Try with another charger, it could be a broken plug too..? I had one plug break internally I think, when I tripped over the cord once, sending the whole shebang flying around pretty nicely.. :-] The device was fine, and charges ok with another charger, but that one plug is not working reliably anymore. I had one charger that I carried around in my backpack and once in my pocket. I guess the cord didn't like the bending too much, as now it no longer charges reliably. Moving it a bit on the AC plug end sometimes helps. A friend with a soldering iron fixed it for me, and now I don't carry it around any more. I had a similar problem - my N800 charger has an abnormally thin cable, which is very easily damaged by normal use. I got a new Nokia mobile phone, and its charger had a much more robust cable. Problem solved. I took the N800 into the local Nokia service centre, on the off chance. They said that is not on our list of phones and added that they would have to send it off to Nokia - even though you could see the copper sticking through the charger cable. Needless to say, I declined their kind offer. Presumably under the sale of goods act (in UK at least) Nokia should replace the charger. Any bright ideas about how to get that to happen, cheaply and quickly? Paul Dundas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
