Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
woops. wrong URI, sorry... the forum is from internettablettalk.com http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums wahlau ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
Yeah i read that too... but i do not know whether did he actually achieved that, or he hope to achieve it. the AWTExample file i found on the internettablet.com forum worked (almost) and i can see AWT window and buttons. speed wise... around 10 secs before i get it loaded. I would say for a simple software, it is slow but bearable. regards, wahlau On 11/01/07, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wednesday 10 January 2007 07:11, Wahlau - wrote: > Hi, > > i have so far only tried some simple java binaries, and they somehow > worked (pretty well) as far as i am concerned. > > i have however not tested/tried about any plugin for browser... have > no blinking idea about this at all.. anyone else? > > speed wise i can sense its lag (as compared to a centrino. LOL) but > from the ipaq linux experience it is still quite acceptable. > > regards, > wahlau. I got similar results. The reason I checked the plugin is that the page mentions the need for minimo browser and that he could now use his nokia with his online banks java applications. James > > On 10/01/07, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 08 January 2007 06:22, Wahlau - wrote: > > > HI all, > > > > > > while reading this thread, i made a search and found Sebas got things > > > working: > > > http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2006/12/java-on-nokia-770-simple-and > > >-eas y.html > > > > > > can't try that now, since i don have my 770 with me. Anyone with time > > > and courage can test it out... shall do when i find some free time > > > tonight. > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > wahlau. > > > > wahlau, > > > >I'd love to compare results with you so far yes it does install > > without a hitch (no conflicts no missing libraries etc.) But I haven't > > been able to find evidence of a plugin for either the opera or the minimo > > browser. (about:plugins doesn't work dang it.) still looking into what > > and were it installed the files most seem to be in /usr/local/. going to > > the anfy java page (just to view some applets.) the site claims I have a > > non-java enabled browser. > > > > James > > > > > On 08/01/07, Roberto Resoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 2007/1/3, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Well the PhoneME MR2 just released has an Linux ARM version so I > > > > > don't see why it couldn't run on maemo. > > > > > > > > > > https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html > > > > > > > > Really interesting, i would like to work on porting this > > > > > > > > Roberto. > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > maemo-users mailing list > > > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 07:11, Wahlau - wrote: > Hi, > > i have so far only tried some simple java binaries, and they somehow > worked (pretty well) as far as i am concerned. > > i have however not tested/tried about any plugin for browser... have > no blinking idea about this at all.. anyone else? > > speed wise i can sense its lag (as compared to a centrino. LOL) but > from the ipaq linux experience it is still quite acceptable. > > regards, > wahlau. I got similar results. The reason I checked the plugin is that the page mentions the need for minimo browser and that he could now use his nokia with his online banks java applications. James > > On 10/01/07, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 08 January 2007 06:22, Wahlau - wrote: > > > HI all, > > > > > > while reading this thread, i made a search and found Sebas got things > > > working: > > > http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2006/12/java-on-nokia-770-simple-and > > >-eas y.html > > > > > > can't try that now, since i don have my 770 with me. Anyone with time > > > and courage can test it out... shall do when i find some free time > > > tonight. > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > wahlau. > > > > wahlau, > > > >I'd love to compare results with you so far yes it does install > > without a hitch (no conflicts no missing libraries etc.) But I haven't > > been able to find evidence of a plugin for either the opera or the minimo > > browser. (about:plugins doesn't work dang it.) still looking into what > > and were it installed the files most seem to be in /usr/local/. going to > > the anfy java page (just to view some applets.) the site claims I have a > > non-java enabled browser. > > > > James > > > > > On 08/01/07, Roberto Resoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 2007/1/3, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Well the PhoneME MR2 just released has an Linux ARM version so I > > > > > don't see why it couldn't run on maemo. > > > > > > > > > > https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html > > > > > > > > Really interesting, i would like to work on porting this > > > > > > > > Roberto. > > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > maemo-users mailing list > > > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > > > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
Hi, i have so far only tried some simple java binaries, and they somehow worked (pretty well) as far as i am concerned. i have however not tested/tried about any plugin for browser... have no blinking idea about this at all.. anyone else? speed wise i can sense its lag (as compared to a centrino. LOL) but from the ipaq linux experience it is still quite acceptable. regards, wahlau. On 10/01/07, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 08 January 2007 06:22, Wahlau - wrote: > HI all, > > while reading this thread, i made a search and found Sebas got things > working: > http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2006/12/java-on-nokia-770-simple-and-eas >y.html > > can't try that now, since i don have my 770 with me. Anyone with time > and courage can test it out... shall do when i find some free time > tonight. > > cheers, > > wahlau. wahlau, I'd love to compare results with you so far yes it does install without a hitch (no conflicts no missing libraries etc.) But I haven't been able to find evidence of a plugin for either the opera or the minimo browser. (about:plugins doesn't work dang it.) still looking into what and were it installed the files most seem to be in /usr/local/. going to the anfy java page (just to view some applets.) the site claims I have a non-java enabled browser. James > > On 08/01/07, Roberto Resoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2007/1/3, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Well the PhoneME MR2 just released has an Linux ARM version so I don't > > > see why it couldn't run on maemo. > > > > > > https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html > > > > Really interesting, i would like to work on porting this > > > > Roberto. > > > > > Peter > > > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
On Monday 08 January 2007 06:22, Wahlau - wrote: > HI all, > > while reading this thread, i made a search and found Sebas got things > working: > http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2006/12/java-on-nokia-770-simple-and-eas >y.html > > can't try that now, since i don have my 770 with me. Anyone with time > and courage can test it out... shall do when i find some free time > tonight. > > cheers, > > wahlau. wahlau, I'd love to compare results with you so far yes it does install without a hitch (no conflicts no missing libraries etc.) But I haven't been able to find evidence of a plugin for either the opera or the minimo browser. (about:plugins doesn't work dang it.) still looking into what and were it installed the files most seem to be in /usr/local/. going to the anfy java page (just to view some applets.) the site claims I have a non-java enabled browser. James > > On 08/01/07, Roberto Resoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2007/1/3, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Well the PhoneME MR2 just released has an Linux ARM version so I don't > > > see why it couldn't run on maemo. > > > > > > https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html > > > > Really interesting, i would like to work on porting this > > > > Roberto. > > > > > Peter > > > > ___ > > maemo-users mailing list > > maemo-users@maemo.org > > https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
HI all, while reading this thread, i made a search and found Sebas got things working: http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2006/12/java-on-nokia-770-simple-and-easy.html can't try that now, since i don have my 770 with me. Anyone with time and courage can test it out... shall do when i find some free time tonight. cheers, wahlau. On 08/01/07, Roberto Resoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2007/1/3, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well the PhoneME MR2 just released has an Linux ARM version so I don't > see why it couldn't run on maemo. > > https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html Really interesting, i would like to work on porting this Roberto. > > Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- = : : : --- normal reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] urgent reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- : : : == ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
2007/1/3, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Well the PhoneME MR2 just released has an Linux ARM version so I don't see why it couldn't run on maemo. https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html Really interesting, i would like to work on porting this Roberto. Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
Well the PhoneME MR2 just released has an Linux ARM version so I don't see why it couldn't run on maemo. https://phoneme.dev.java.net/downloads_page.html Peter On 11/17/06, Tim Ashman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I disagree, my cell phone runs java ME, I think the 770 should be able to run some version of it. At least enough of it to allow for a browser plugin to work. tim On 11/16/2006 11:56 pm, Jos Vos wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 09:13:48PM -0600, Comcast wrote: > > O.K. A question for the web browser developers. Now that Sun has > > open sourced Java, how long will it be before we see it included in the > > 770's browser? > > Sus has *not* yet open sourced Java, they announced to release the > first open source code in March 2007, IIRC. So only at that moment, > looking at the real code, people can see how difficult it is to port > it and start estimating how long that will take. > > Seeing how killing (in the negative sense) Java is on old computers > with little memory, I doubt whether it's feasible to use it on the > 770, but we'll see... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
I disagree, my cell phone runs java ME, I think the 770 should be able to run some version of it. At least enough of it to allow for a browser plugin to work. tim On 11/16/2006 11:56 pm, Jos Vos wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 09:13:48PM -0600, Comcast wrote: > > O.K. A question for the web browser developers. Now that Sun has > > open sourced Java, how long will it be before we see it included in the > > 770's browser? > > Sus has *not* yet open sourced Java, they announced to release the > first open source code in March 2007, IIRC. So only at that moment, > looking at the real code, people can see how difficult it is to port > it and start estimating how long that will take. > > Seeing how killing (in the negative sense) Java is on old computers > with little memory, I doubt whether it's feasible to use it on the > 770, but we'll see... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] Open source Java
> Frantisek Dufka wrote: > > > > There was beta port for Sharp Zaurus from Sun years ago. > > first link here > http://www.google.com/search?q=java+zaurus+personal+profile And it looks like someone's just compiled the released source for the Zaurus too (J2ME): http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21995&hl= Simon ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
Frantisek Dufka wrote: There was beta port for Sharp Zaurus from Sun years ago. first link here http://www.google.com/search?q=java+zaurus+personal+profile ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
Peter Robinson wrote: Sun _HAS_ open sourced parts of it. I don't think its a complete JVM yet. The other thing about the Sun version is I don't believe its ported to the ARM architecture yet, so that would be a (not very small) requirement before it could even be considered. There was beta port for Sharp Zaurus from Sun years ago. It was almost full Java, not complete j2se but so called Personal Profile (including AWT bindings, sound etc). Performance was acceptable. I hope we will see source for this. AWT bindings were for QT/E of course, not X11. Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
> O.K. A question for the web browser developers. Now that Sun has > open sourced Java, how long will it be before we see it included in the > 770's browser? Sus has *not* yet open sourced Java, they announced to release the first open source code in March 2007, IIRC. So only at that moment, looking at the real code, people can see how difficult it is to port it and start estimating how long that will take. Sun _HAS_ open sourced parts of it. I don't think its a complete JVM yet. The other thing about the Sun version is I don't believe its ported to the ARM architecture yet, so that would be a (not very small) requirement before it could even be considered. Seeing how killing (in the negative sense) Java is on old computers with little memory, I doubt whether it's feasible to use it on the 770, but we'll see... I don't know that I would want JavaSE on the 770 as it would be too heavy (which I think is what all the browser plugins use) but JavaME (Mobile Edition) would be excellent. Its the version that runs on all the various smart phones that support Java (like the blackberry) and would allow us to use all the large amount of mobile java applications out there. The 2 in particular that would be very is is Google's Mobile GMaps (google.com/gmm) and the mobile gmail client. Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
Where have you been the last couple of days? https://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/index.jsp https://phoneme.dev.java.net/ /Jesper On 17. Nov 2006, at 08:56, Jos Vos wrote: On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 09:13:48PM -0600, Comcast wrote: O.K. A question for the web browser developers. Now that Sun has open sourced Java, how long will it be before we see it included in the 770's browser? Sus has *not* yet open sourced Java, they announced to release the first open source code in March 2007, IIRC. So only at that moment, looking at the real code, people can see how difficult it is to port it and start estimating how long that will take. Seeing how killing (in the negative sense) Java is on old computers with little memory, I doubt whether it's feasible to use it on the 770, but we'll see... -- --Jos Vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 --Amsterdam, The Netherlands| Fax: +31 20 6948204 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 09:13:48PM -0600, Comcast wrote: > O.K. A question for the web browser developers. Now that Sun has > open sourced Java, how long will it be before we see it included in the > 770's browser? Sus has *not* yet open sourced Java, they announced to release the first open source code in March 2007, IIRC. So only at that moment, looking at the real code, people can see how difficult it is to port it and start estimating how long that will take. Seeing how killing (in the negative sense) Java is on old computers with little memory, I doubt whether it's feasible to use it on the 770, but we'll see... -- --Jos Vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 --Amsterdam, The Netherlands| Fax: +31 20 6948204 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
On 11/17/06, Bob Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh dear God, please, NO! Java is a completelty useless piece of sluggish bloatware. Okay, fine, make an OPTIONAL installation, but please, DO NOT make it part of the default software mix - it would absolutely KILL a 770. Hey Bob - don't be a shrinking violet! Tell us what you really think... -- Michael Davies "Do what you think is interesting, do somthing that [EMAIL PROTECTED] you think is fun and worthwhile, because otherwise http://michaeldavies.org you won't do it well anyway." -- Brian Kernighan ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Open source Java
Comcast wrote: O.K. A question for the web browser developers. Now that Sun has open sourced Java, how long will it be before we see it included in the 770's browser? http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/index.jsp
With Java included, the 770 could replace my PowerBook for travel. Oh dear God, please, NO! Java is a completelty useless piece of sluggish bloatware. Okay, fine, make an OPTIONAL installation, but please, DO NOT make it part of the default software mix - it would absolutely KILL a 770. -- "The great bulk of my wealthy and educated friends regard me as a dangerous crank." -Teddy Roosevelt Bob Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Open source Java
O.K. A question for the web browser developers. Now that Sun has open sourced Java, how long will it be before we see it included in the 770's browser? http://www.sun.com/2006-1113/feature/index.jspBR> With Java included, the 770 could replace my PowerBook for travel. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
