Re: DO NOT RESTORE FROM A (BETA) BACKUP OK one By one : why no stylus menu ?

2008-01-14 Thread Frank W. Kooistra
On Monday 14 January 2008 17:50:19 Frank W. Kooistra wrote:
> On Friday 21 December 2007 13:59:33 Eero Tamminen wrote:
> > According to comments in the corresponding bug:
> > https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2597
> >
> > The problem happens only when restoring N810 backup to N800
> >
> > and it can be worked around by doing following in xterm:
> >
> > gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/osso/inputmethod/enable-stylus-im TRUE
> >
> >
> > - Eero
>
> I finally found time to upgrade one of  my N800's
> (they are only allowed in his/hers combination's )
>
> I upgrade from
> RX-34_2007SE_4.2007.38-2_PR_COMBINE
>
> to
>
> RX-34_2008SE_4.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINE
>
> I noticed that flashing will not start when the memory cards are inside the
> N800
> removed the cards and flashed the device
>
>
> and did a total restore
>
> No styllus text input
>
> Only .finger keyboard is available
>
>
> The line
>
>  gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/osso/inputmethod/enable-stylus-im TRUE
>
> either true or false, does not work
>
> I am missing one  other 0 function
>
> 1/ I cannot layout the desktop
>
>
>
> 
> will reflash
>
> =-=-
>
> after reflash : no restore backup :
>
> for the menu: only .finger layout
> No stylus layout
>
> so with six entries a menu fills the screen
>
> stylus keyboard is now present.
>
> at  home  layout option is not there. One cannot layout the position of the
> applets.
>
>
>
> I waded through the backup if i could find a wrong option, which disables
> the stylus keyboard : not found.
>
>
> I searched through the mail and only found the message that the finger
> keyboard is gone after putting a N810 backup on a 2008  N800
>


fase two

I restored the backup 
Now all parts individually 

after each restore i checked if the stylus keyboard disappeared

It did not.. 

Great.. 

Now is there a possibility to have a stylus menu ? 
Finger menu is too impractical ( also in contacts !) 
for so many selections one has to scroll 

and 

scolling should at least be possible by page ... 

 

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Re: DO NOT RESTORE FROM A (BETA) BACKUP

2008-01-14 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Matt Emson ha escrit:

> The annoying thing is the lack of finger keyboard detection and the 
> unresponsiveness (mis reading of taps and constant doubling of typing) 
> for the finger keyboard.

And for the stylus keyboard too.

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Re: DO NOT RESTORE FROM A (BETA) BACKUP

2008-01-14 Thread Matt Emson
Frank W. Kooistra wrote:
> after reflash : no restore backup : 
>  
> for the menu: only .finger layout
> No stylus layout

This is the expected behaviour now, isn't it? OS 2008 always has the 
large menu layout now, doesn't it? Certainly, that was my impression.

The annoying thing is the lack of finger keyboard detection and the 
unresponsiveness (mis reading of taps and constant doubling of typing) 
for the finger keyboard. OS 2007's was quite good, but OS 2008 is much, 
much less usable.

Matt

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Re: DO NOT RESTORE FROM A (BETA) BACKUP

2008-01-14 Thread Frank W. Kooistra
On Friday 21 December 2007 13:59:33 Eero Tamminen wrote:
>
> According to comments in the corresponding bug:
>   https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2597
>
> The problem happens only when restoring N810 backup to N800
>
> and it can be worked around by doing following in xterm:
>
> gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/osso/inputmethod/enable-stylus-im TRUE
>
>
>   - Eero

I finally found time to upgrade one of  my N800's 
(they are only allowed in his/hers combination's ) 

I upgrade from 
RX-34_2007SE_4.2007.38-2_PR_COMBINE 

to 

RX-34_2008SE_4.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINE 

I noticed that flashing will not start when the memory cards are inside the 
N800 
removed the cards and flashed the device


and did a total restore 

No styllus text input 

Only .finger keyboard is available 
 

The line 

 gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/osso/inputmethod/enable-stylus-im TRUE

either true or false, does not work 

I am missing one  other 0 function 

1/ I cannot layout the desktop




will reflash  

=-=-

after reflash : no restore backup : 
 
for the menu: only .finger layout
No stylus layout

so with six entries a menu fills the screen

stylus keyboard is now present.  

at  home  layout option is not there. One cannot layout the position of the 
applets. 



I waded through the backup if i could find a wrong option, which disables the 
stylus keyboard : not found.


I searched through the mail and only found the message that the finger 
keyboard is gone after putting a N810 backup on a 2008  N800 



 
  


Kind regards 


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770 + 1 GiB MMCmobile 64MiB swapfile
OS 2006 edition Mistral 
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SuSe 10.3 XEN
Ubuntu 7.10

2x N800 (male /female) 

The Netherlands

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M:+31 62 70 51 690
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Re: DO NOT RESTORE FROM A BETA BACKUP

2007-12-21 Thread Jonathan Greene
I'll even bottom post to appease the list ...

On Dec 21, 2007 7:59 AM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 December 2007 11:51:58 am Mike Morrison wrote:
> >> I had no such issues restoring from the beta backup.
> >>
> >> On Dec 20, 2007 7:06 AM, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>> http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/19/n800-updated-to-os2008-wheres
> >>> -the-stylus-input/
> >>>
> >>> I know I'm not alone with issues following a restore.  Tread
> >>> lightly. A fresh install fixes you right back up.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >
> > I'm with Mike on this.  Due to problems totally unrelated to the Beta
> > I restored from backup a total of 5 or 6 times during the beta phase.
> > Thank god too.   Kept me down to 30 minutes a re-install.
>
> According to comments in the corresponding bug:
> https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2597
>
> The problem happens only when restoring N810 backup to N800
> (because they have / need to have different input settings)
> and it can be worked around by doing following in xterm:
>
> gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/osso/inputmethod/enable-stylus-im TRUE
>
>
> - Eero
>

Eero - That's a helpful command I could have used earlier this week!
My backup path in 2008 was from N810 prerelease N810 firmware update
to N800 2008 beta to current release 2008.  stylus did not work on the
N800 until I did the fresh flash with minimal restore. I know the
similar input issues were found by other users based on the comments
I've gotten, the bugzilla report and on ITT.  Just trying to help
those who may find similar problems.

I can appreciate that moving across non-synchronous software releases
from different hardware may lead to problems...


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Re: DO NOT RESTORE FROM A BETA BACKUP

2007-12-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Thursday 20 December 2007 11:51:58 am Mike Morrison wrote:
>> I had no such issues restoring from the beta backup.
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2007 7:06 AM, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>>> http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/19/n800-updated-to-os2008-wheres
>>> -the-stylus-input/
>>>
>>> I know I'm not alone with issues following a restore.  Tread
>>> lightly. A fresh install fixes you right back up.
>>>
>>> --
> 
> I'm with Mike on this.  Due to problems totally unrelated to the Beta 
> I restored from backup a total of 5 or 6 times during the beta phase.  
> Thank god too.   Kept me down to 30 minutes a re-install.

According to comments in the corresponding bug:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2597

The problem happens only when restoring N810 backup to N800
(because they have / need to have different input settings)
and it can be worked around by doing following in xterm:

gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/osso/inputmethod/enable-stylus-im TRUE


- Eero
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Re: DO NOT RESTORE FROM A BETA BACKUP

2007-12-21 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thursday 20 December 2007 11:51:58 am Mike Morrison wrote:
> I had no such issues restoring from the beta backup.
>
> On Dec 20, 2007 7:06 AM, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/19/n800-updated-to-os2008-wheres
> >-the-stylus-input/
> >
> > I know I'm not alone with issues following a restore.  Tread
> > lightly. A fresh install fixes you right back up.
> >
> > --
> 

I'm with Mike on this.  Due to problems totally unrelated to the Beta 
I restored from backup a total of 5 or 6 times during the beta phase.  
Thank god too.   Kept me down to 30 minutes a re-install.

James
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Re: DO NOT RESTORE FROM A BETA BACKUP

2007-12-20 Thread Jonathan Greene
glad to hear ... all my text entry options were messed up.

On Dec 20, 2007 2:51 PM, Mike Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had no such issues restoring from the beta backup.
>
>
> On Dec 20, 2007 7:06 AM, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/19/n800-updated-to-os2008-wheres-the-stylus-input/
> >
> > I know I'm not alone with issues following a restore.  Tread lightly.
> > A fresh install fixes you right back up.
> >




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Re: DO NOT RESTORE FROM A BETA BACKUP

2007-12-20 Thread Mike Morrison
I had no such issues restoring from the beta backup.

On Dec 20, 2007 7:06 AM, Jonathan Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/19/n800-updated-to-os2008-wheres-the-stylus-input/
>
> I know I'm not alone with issues following a restore.  Tread lightly.
> A fresh install fixes you right back up.
>
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DO NOT RESTORE FROM A BETA BACKUP

2007-12-20 Thread Jonathan Greene
http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/12/19/n800-updated-to-os2008-wheres-the-stylus-input/

I know I'm not alone with issues following a restore.  Tread lightly.
A fresh install fixes you right back up.

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