Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-04 Thread Chris Ross

On 03/04/2010 12:57 PM, Anderson Lizardo wrote:

A totally wild guess: is it possible that the music(s) you are trying
to play have some kind of DRM in place that forbids playing
over-the-air ? Have you tried other random supported file formats, or
tried recording some sound with the microphone then playing it?


No, the tracks are ripped from my own CDs.

Thanks though,
Chris R.
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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-04 Thread Anderson Lizardo
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:53 AM, Chris Ross  wrote:
> I've tried taking out the battery and it doesn't get more rebooted than
> that. Still no joy.
>
> I can confirm that the sounds of games come through fine, so I'm sure that
> the hardware is working. It's only the media player that seems to be able to
> transmit its clicks and beeps but doesn't transmit the music.

A totally wild guess: is it possible that the music(s) you are trying
to play have some kind of DRM in place that forbids playing
over-the-air ? Have you tried other random supported file formats, or
tried recording some sound with the microphone then playing it?

Does N900's media player have any kind of DRM support at all?

Regards,
-- 
Anderson Lizardo
OpenBossa Labs - INdT
Manaus - Brazil
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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-04 Thread Chris Ross

On 03/01/2010 11:05 AM, Andre Klapper wrote:

Am Montag, den 01.03.2010, 10:21 + schrieb Chris Ross:

The FM Transmitter feature on my N900 is very useful to me as my car's
built-in stereo doesn't support Bluetooth, but this weekend it just
stopped working. I can set the TX frequency and tune the radio to it,
enable the FM Transmitter in Media Player and all seems well. The static
is replaced by quiet, I can hear the clicks and other system sounds as I
select things through the car speakers, but when I press play I get
silence. It's good silence, like properly transmitted silence, but
obviously what I wanted to hear was the music.


This also happened to us yesterday in the car, however it worked after
rebooting the N900.


I've tried taking out the battery and it doesn't get more rebooted than 
that. Still no joy.


I can confirm that the sounds of games come through fine, so I'm sure 
that the hardware is working. It's only the media player that seems to 
be able to transmit its clicks and beeps but doesn't transmit the music.


I have tried uninstalling any apps related to media or radio, though 
only had a couple: FM boost thing and the media player desktop widget. 
Deleted the /home/user/.pulse* directories in case it had saved some 
confused state. Checked /tmp for dead sockets but found nothing.


I'm a bit of a loss now. As it seems not to be a hardware issue I can 
only assume it's a software bug. It was working fine on a long car 
journey Friday, but then stopped and hasn't worked since. I really don't 
think I changed anything and I'm unsure how to debug it further.


I really would welcome any suggestions. two of the main things I bought 
my N900 for are Sat Nav functionality and to listen to my music in the 
car. I was disappointed to find it doesn't do the former and now it 
doesn't even do the latter.


Regards,
Chris R.
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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-02 Thread Chris Ross

On 03/01/2010 11:05 AM, Andre Klapper wrote:

Am Montag, den 01.03.2010, 10:21 + schrieb Chris Ross:

The FM Transmitter feature on my N900 is very useful to me as my car's
built-in stereo doesn't support Bluetooth, but this weekend it just
stopped working. I can set the TX frequency and tune the radio to it,
enable the FM Transmitter in Media Player and all seems well. The static
is replaced by quiet, I can hear the clicks and other system sounds as I
select things through the car speakers, but when I press play I get
silence. It's good silence, like properly transmitted silence, but
obviously what I wanted to hear was the music.


This also happened to us yesterday in the car, however it worked after
rebooting the N900.



I've tried that again, leaving the N900 powered down for about 20 
minutes. No change. It's clearly transmitting properly on FM, just not 
sending the music.


Could there be some other setting somewhere which I've changed 
inadvertently? Is this a bug? Is there a workaround?


Chris R.
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[Fwd: Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music]

2010-03-01 Thread Marcel
I actually intended replying to the list intead of Paul directly.
Sorry. ;)
--- Begin Message ---
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Marcel  wrote:
> This indeed seems to heavily depend on which car you're in. I've tried
> the following:
> Opel/Vauxhall:
>Corsa B and C: fine
>Omega B: fine
>Zafira: doesn't really work
> VW:
>T4 and T5: fine
>Polo 5: fine

I have a Toyota Camry Hybrid and FM transmitter really turns to static
when I press the brakes. :) I guess because it's generating
electricity in the battery, which is located directly below the FM
antenna (rear windshield).
--- End Message ---
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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Xavier Bestel  wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 12:05 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
>> Am Montag, den 01.03.2010, 10:21 + schrieb Chris Ross:
>> > The FM Transmitter feature on my N900 is very useful to me as my car's
>> > built-in stereo doesn't support Bluetooth, but this weekend it just
>> > stopped working. I can set the TX frequency and tune the radio to it,
>> > enable the FM Transmitter in Media Player and all seems well. The static
>> > is replaced by quiet, I can hear the clicks and other system sounds as I
>> > select things through the car speakers, but when I press play I get
>> > silence. It's good silence, like properly transmitted silence, but
>> > obviously what I wanted to hear was the music.
>>
>> This also happened to us yesterday in the car, however it worked after
>> rebooting the N900.
>
> The FM transmitter never worked for me (tried in different cars), it
> only emits a faint static sound with a very very faint music, even with
> N900 and car's volume crancked up.
> I always thought it was just a marketing gimmick. Is it supposed to work
> well ?
> Maybe I should try to hear the clicks and other system sounds.

FM transmitter is basically useless for me, too. I tried in 3
different cars and at it's best the sound quality is very poor, barely
better than AM radio, but most of the time there is so much static I
can't hear anything. And I'm using the FM boost package, which helps a
little. Without FM boost it's even worse...

I think it depends on phone's proximity to the FM antenna, whether the
antenna is shielded from electrical signals inside the car (which is
normally a good thing, except for when the FM transmitter is inside
the car...)
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RE: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread tero.kojo
The range of the transmitter isn't too long if you have a well built stereo.
At home I have to put the device on top of the receiver to get really clean 
sound. In the car I prefer a small box just above the car radio. The sound does 
work from elsewhere in the car, but just above the radio is best.

Generally the better the radio the better they are insulated from external 
signals that are not coming to the antenna directly.

Tero

> -Original Message-
> From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-
> boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext Xavier Bestel
> Sent: 01 March, 2010 16:26
> To: Alexander Schröter
> Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music
> 
> On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 14:28 +0100, Alexander Schröter wrote:
> 
> > It works great for me. Just saved myself from a 5 hour drive with no
> music
> > because of a broken cd player.
> >
> > To Xavier: Try to use a different station ... if you get static your
> device is
> > either out of range, gets interference from another source or u have
> another
> > problem. The situation Chris describes is different because he gets
> "clean
> > silence" and device sounds which pretty much says his device is
> working.
> 
> I already tried different stations, each time I tried one in a blank
> range.
> I think I get static because the volume is really faint.
> I'll try once again today now that I know it's supposed to work well.
> 
> Thanks,
>   Xav
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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 16:34 +0200, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> ext Xavier Bestel  writes:
> 
> > So obviously my phone has a problem.
> 
> It might also be your car.  Radio transmitters are usually outside of
> your car, and the antenna might be optimized for that.

I tried on three of them. But just in case, I'll try outside of mine,
thanks.

Xav

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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Lon Lentz
  It might be the antenna setup on your car. My antenna is embedded in the
rear glass of my car and I can't get any fm transmitter setup to sound good.



>
> No I'm not :(
> So obviously my phone has a problem. Do you have to push the volume of
> your stereo to hear the N900 ?
>
> Are there different FM chips/configurations for different countries ?
>
>
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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Xavier Bestel  writes:

> So obviously my phone has a problem.

It might also be your car.  Radio transmitters are usually outside of
your car, and the antenna might be optimized for that.
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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 14:28 +0100, Alexander Schröter wrote:

> It works great for me. Just saved myself from a 5 hour drive with no music 
> because of a broken cd player.
> 
> To Xavier: Try to use a different station ... if you get static your device 
> is 
> either out of range, gets interference from another source or u have another 
> problem. The situation Chris describes is different because he gets "clean 
> silence" and device sounds which pretty much says his device is working.

I already tried different stations, each time I tried one in a blank range.
I think I get static because the volume is really faint.
I'll try once again today now that I know it's supposed to work well.

Thanks,
Xav

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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 11:15 -0300, Cláudio Sampaio wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Xavier Bestel 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The FM transmitter never worked for me (tried in different
> cars), it
> only emits a faint static sound with a very very faint music,
> even with
> N900 and car's volume crancked up.
> I always thought it was just a marketing gimmick. Is it
> supposed to work
> well ?
> 
> 
> Are you kidding? It works very well for me, the sound is barely
> distinguishable from the CDs I put in my car sound system, it's loud
> and clear. Never had any problem with it.

No I'm not :(
So obviously my phone has a problem. Do you have to push the volume of
your stereo to hear the N900 ?

Are there different FM chips/configurations for different countries ?

Thanks
Xav

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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Cláudio Sampaio
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Xavier Bestel wrote:

>
> The FM transmitter never worked for me (tried in different cars), it
> only emits a faint static sound with a very very faint music, even with
> N900 and car's volume crancked up.
> I always thought it was just a marketing gimmick. Is it supposed to work
> well ?
>

Are you kidding? It works very well for me, the sound is barely
distinguishable from the CDs I put in my car sound system, it's loud and
clear. Never had any problem with it.


Best regards,
-- 
Cláudio "Patola" Sampaio
IRC: ptl  - Yahoo: patolaaa
Campinas, SP - Brazil.
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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Alexander Schröter
Am 01.03.2010 14:09, schrieb Xavier Bestel: 
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 12:05 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
   
Am Montag, den 01.03.2010, 10:21 + schrieb Chris Ross:
 
The FM Transmitter feature on my N900 is very useful to me as my car's 
built-in stereo doesn't support Bluetooth, but this weekend it just 
stopped working. I can set the TX frequency and tune the radio to it, 
enable the FM Transmitter in Media Player and all seems well. The static 
is replaced by quiet, I can hear the clicks and other system sounds as I 
select things through the car speakers, but when I press play I get 
silence. It's good silence, like properly transmitted silence, but 
obviously what I wanted to hear was the music.
   
This also happened to us yesterday in the car, however it worked after
rebooting the N900.
 
The FM transmitter never worked for me (tried in different cars), it
only emits a faint static sound with a very very faint music, even with
N900 and car's volume crancked up.
I always thought it was just a marketing gimmick. Is it supposed to work
well ?
Maybe I should try to hear the clicks and other system sounds.

	Xav
  
It works great for me. Just saved myself from a 5 hour drive with no music 
because of a broken cd player.

To Xavier: Try to use a different station ... if you get static your device is 
either out of range, gets interference from another source or u have another 
problem. The situation Chris describes is different because he gets "clean 
silence" and device sounds which pretty much says his device is working.

To Chris: Have you tried turning the FMTransmitter on and off in- and outside 
of the player? And if you play the music with the transmitter on I understand 
there is no music from the speakers, right? Double check the Player Sound 
maybe the sound in the player is just somehow disabled. You can simply check 
that by starting the music with the transmitter off and enabling it. Are you 
using any aditional software like the fmtransmitter button and/or the booster?

Alex
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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Alexander Schröter
Am 01.03.2010 14:09, schrieb Xavier Bestel: 
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 12:05 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
   
Am Montag, den 01.03.2010, 10:21 + schrieb Chris Ross:
 
The FM Transmitter feature on my N900 is very useful to me as my car's 
built-in stereo doesn't support Bluetooth, but this weekend it just 
stopped working. I can set the TX frequency and tune the radio to it, 
enable the FM Transmitter in Media Player and all seems well. The static 
is replaced by quiet, I can hear the clicks and other system sounds as I 
select things through the car speakers, but when I press play I get 
silence. It's good silence, like properly transmitted silence, but 
obviously what I wanted to hear was the music.
   
This also happened to us yesterday in the car, however it worked after
rebooting the N900.
 
The FM transmitter never worked for me (tried in different cars), it
only emits a faint static sound with a very very faint music, even with
N900 and car's volume crancked up.
I always thought it was just a marketing gimmick. Is it supposed to work
well ?
Maybe I should try to hear the clicks and other system sounds.

	Xav
  
It works great for me. Just saved myself from a 5 hour drive with no music 
because of a broken cd player.

To Xavier: Try to use a different station ... if you get static your device is 
either out of range, gets interference from another source or u have another 
problem. The situation Chris describes is different because he gets "clean 
silence" and device sounds which pretty much says his device is working.

To Chris: Have you tried turning the FMTransmitter on and off in- and outside 
of the player? And if you play the music with the transmitter on I understand 
there is no music from the speakers, right? Double check the Player Sound 
maybe the sound in the player is just somehow disabled. You can simply check 
that by starting the music with the transmitter off and enabling it. Are you 
using any aditional software like the fmtransmitter button and/or the booster?

Alex
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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 12:05 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Montag, den 01.03.2010, 10:21 + schrieb Chris Ross:
> > The FM Transmitter feature on my N900 is very useful to me as my car's 
> > built-in stereo doesn't support Bluetooth, but this weekend it just 
> > stopped working. I can set the TX frequency and tune the radio to it, 
> > enable the FM Transmitter in Media Player and all seems well. The static 
> > is replaced by quiet, I can hear the clicks and other system sounds as I 
> > select things through the car speakers, but when I press play I get 
> > silence. It's good silence, like properly transmitted silence, but 
> > obviously what I wanted to hear was the music.
> 
> This also happened to us yesterday in the car, however it worked after
> rebooting the N900.

The FM transmitter never worked for me (tried in different cars), it
only emits a faint static sound with a very very faint music, even with
N900 and car's volume crancked up.
I always thought it was just a marketing gimmick. Is it supposed to work
well ?
Maybe I should try to hear the clicks and other system sounds.

Xav

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Re: FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 01.03.2010, 10:21 + schrieb Chris Ross:
> The FM Transmitter feature on my N900 is very useful to me as my car's 
> built-in stereo doesn't support Bluetooth, but this weekend it just 
> stopped working. I can set the TX frequency and tune the radio to it, 
> enable the FM Transmitter in Media Player and all seems well. The static 
> is replaced by quiet, I can hear the clicks and other system sounds as I 
> select things through the car speakers, but when I press play I get 
> silence. It's good silence, like properly transmitted silence, but 
> obviously what I wanted to hear was the music.

This also happened to us yesterday in the car, however it worked after
rebooting the N900.

andre
-- 
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FM Transmitter Sends Sounds But Not Music

2010-03-01 Thread Chris Ross


If this is an FAQ I've been unable to find it, nor has googling helped.

The FM Transmitter feature on my N900 is very useful to me as my car's 
built-in stereo doesn't support Bluetooth, but this weekend it just 
stopped working. I can set the TX frequency and tune the radio to it, 
enable the FM Transmitter in Media Player and all seems well. The static 
is replaced by quiet, I can hear the clicks and other system sounds as I 
select things through the car speakers, but when I press play I get 
silence. It's good silence, like properly transmitted silence, but 
obviously what I wanted to hear was the music.


I've tried power cycling the N900 a couple of times, tried running 
update in the apps manager, gone through the settings with a fine comb 
looking for something obvious but haven't spotted it.


How do I get music played via FM once again? It plays fine through the 
internal speakers or headphone socket, just not over FM, although other 
sound is fine over FM seems to be just the music that doesn't work 
though I haven't tried playing a game to see whether I can hear that.


Thanks in advance,
Chris R.

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