Re: How is the N800 antenna implemented?

2007-07-30 Thread Larry Battraw
On 7/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anybody know how the antenna in the N800 headphones is implemented?
 Are they using the ground conductor as the antenna, are they using the two
 headphone lines as a dipole antenna, or what?

  Using the ground connector wouldn't really work since I believe it's
directly connected to system ground and wouldn't produce a net
difference in field strength.  When I last checked the ground
connector acted as a ground plane and one of the headphone wires
served as the actual antenna.  It doesn't work that well in practice
(in its stock configuration) simply because there's not enough
exposed/non-twisted-pair portion of the headphone wire pair to receive
a good signal (Only one wire/ground pair acts as the antenna and I
can't remember which right now).  Once you expose a few inches of the
heaphone wire from the ground sheath/pair it works very well as long
as you don't go crazy and expose so much antenna that it overloads the
RF frontend
.

 There are 2 reasons I ask: first, I'd like to be able to do a calibrated
 sensitivity check on the FM receiver, which means I need a proper RF
 interface to inject the signal from my sig-gen on. Secondly, I work in
 what can best be described as RF hell (as you might deduce by the fact
 that I have ready access to a calibrated RF sig-gen), and I'd like to be
 able to couple my external antenna drop into the N800.

I wouldn't do that if I were you.  Any time you connect something to
you and a external (out-door) antenna you're betting against the
possibility of a lightning strike, static discharge, accidentally
touching something live and becoming the shortest path to ground, or a
host of other unpleasant possibilities.  Stick with something cheaper
and purpose-built for listening to the radio on; you could even go for
one with a remote so you don't have to touch it every time you want to
adjust the volume or switch stations.

Larry
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Re: How is the N800 antenna implemented?

2007-07-30 Thread Christopher Marshall
Larry:
   
  Are you saying that if I plug a headphone cord into the n800, it will extend 
the antenna, resulting in better 802.11 range?

  Chris Marshall
  
 
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Re: How is the N800 antenna implemented?

2007-07-30 Thread Neil MacLeod
Christopher Marshall wrote:
 Larry:
  
 Are you saying that if I plug a headphone cord into the n800, it will 
 extend the antenna, resulting in better 802.11 range?
 Chris Marshall
 
  
 
No, Larry and David are discussing FM Radio reception.

The 802.11 and Bluetooth antennas are concealed inside the N800 and not 
accessible.

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