Re: Installing Firefox 4 beta 2 in N900 - howto?

2010-11-09 Thread Dawid Lorenz
On 5 November 2010 20:18, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+ma...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bma...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  That's what I'll probably do at the end but I'm feeling dirty just
 thinking
  about dpkg to install packages.

 The good news is that it is worth it, the latest Fennec nightlies are
 really pretty good quality and browsing is very fast. (as long as you
 don't need Flash...)


Installed Fennec 4b2 with dpkg yesterday and unfortunately I can't share
your enthusiasm. Application went back to its habits from pre-1.1 era, when
pretty much every tap on screen was followed by huge lag, lasting anything
between 1 second and ~1 minute (sic!). The only more-or-less usable version
of Firefox Mobile is 1.1, where lags were somehow reduced to acceptable
levels, but only when I've had less than 2-3 tabs opened at a time. Having
said that, MicroB, albeit having lot of room for improvements too, is still
my browser of choice...


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Installing Firefox 4 beta 2 in N900 - howto?

2010-11-05 Thread Dawid Lorenz
I'm experiencing problems installing Firefox 4 beta 2 on my device. I
currently don't have Firefox/fennec installed at all. So here's what I do to
get latest beta installed:

1) Go to http://firefox.com/m/beta in N900's browser - click Download for
Maemo button.
2) App Manager starts and prompts to add new Mozilla multi Beta Catalogue.
I confirm so App Manager takes its usual time to do stuff before I get
prompt to install Firefox 1.1 (!!!) which comes from Ovi repository,
rather than Firefox 4.0b2 from Mozilla repo.
3) I cancel that installation, go to catalogue manager, disable Ovi
repository and completely delete Mozilla beta repo as well. App Manager
again takes time to refresh repos in the background.
4) I go back to firefox.com/m/beta and restart whole procedure.
5) When App Manager kicks in, I get prompt to add Mozilla beta catalogue,
I confirm that but then I get... Unable to donwload fennec. Application
package not found. :-o

What gives?! Did anyone experience similar issues and got workaround?

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Re: Installing Firefox 4 beta 2 in N900 - howto?

2010-11-05 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
I also had plenty of issues installing Fennec Beta on Maemo.

What I do is resort to terminal.

Yesteday after App Manager added the Beta catalog and said Fennec was
already installed (it was, but B1) I went to Terminal and typed:

apt-get install fennec

and it quits saying Silently failing to process handler (or
something of that sort).

Then I typed:

apt-get upgrade

and that happily upgraded it.

However, last time I had Fennec installed from the Ovi Repo I had to
play a lot with apt-get in order to install the Beta.

Aniello

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:04, Dawid Lorenz da...@lorenz.co wrote:
 I'm experiencing problems installing Firefox 4 beta 2 on my device. I
 currently don't have Firefox/fennec installed at all. So here's what I do to
 get latest beta installed:
 1) Go to http://firefox.com/m/beta in N900's browser - click Download for
 Maemo button.
 2) App Manager starts and prompts to add new Mozilla multi Beta Catalogue.
 I confirm so App Manager takes its usual time to do stuff before I get
 prompt to install Firefox 1.1 (!!!) which comes from Ovi repository,
 rather than Firefox 4.0b2 from Mozilla repo.
 3) I cancel that installation, go to catalogue manager, disable Ovi
 repository and completely delete Mozilla beta repo as well. App Manager
 again takes time to refresh repos in the background.
 4) I go back to firefox.com/m/beta and restart whole procedure.
 5) When App Manager kicks in, I get prompt to add Mozilla beta catalogue,
 I confirm that but then I get... Unable to donwload fennec. Application
 package not found. :-o
 What gives?! Did anyone experience similar issues and got workaround?

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Re: Installing Firefox 4 beta 2 in N900 - howto?

2010-11-05 Thread Aniello Del Sorbo
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:48, Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com wrote:
 I also had plenty of issues installing Fennec Beta on Maemo.

 What I do is resort to terminal.

 Yesteday after App Manager added the Beta catalog and said Fennec was
 already installed (it was, but B1) I went to Terminal and typed:

 apt-get install fennec

 and it quits saying Silently failing to process handler (or
 something of that sort).

 Then I typed:

 apt-get upgrade

 and that happily upgraded it.

 However, last time I had Fennec installed from the Ovi Repo I had to
 play a lot with apt-get in order to install the Beta.

 Aniello


Actually it still gives me the same error if I try :

apt-get install fennec

it quits with:

E: Handler silently failed

Aniello


 On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:04, Dawid Lorenz da...@lorenz.co wrote:
 I'm experiencing problems installing Firefox 4 beta 2 on my device. I
 currently don't have Firefox/fennec installed at all. So here's what I do to
 get latest beta installed:
 1) Go to http://firefox.com/m/beta in N900's browser - click Download for
 Maemo button.
 2) App Manager starts and prompts to add new Mozilla multi Beta Catalogue.
 I confirm so App Manager takes its usual time to do stuff before I get
 prompt to install Firefox 1.1 (!!!) which comes from Ovi repository,
 rather than Firefox 4.0b2 from Mozilla repo.
 3) I cancel that installation, go to catalogue manager, disable Ovi
 repository and completely delete Mozilla beta repo as well. App Manager
 again takes time to refresh repos in the background.
 4) I go back to firefox.com/m/beta and restart whole procedure.
 5) When App Manager kicks in, I get prompt to add Mozilla beta catalogue,
 I confirm that but then I get... Unable to donwload fennec. Application
 package not found. :-o
 What gives?! Did anyone experience similar issues and got workaround?

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Re: Installing Firefox 4 beta 2 in N900 - howto?

2010-11-05 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Dawid Lorenz da...@lorenz.co wrote:
 I'm experiencing problems installing Firefox 4 beta 2 on my device.

It's a long-running problem. I haven't been able to install from
Mozilla repos in what seems like a year. I don't know if anyone is
able to install from their repos from App Manager. Maybe if someone
can we can figure out what is different about their setup.

Only solution for me is to download the deb file and install with dpkg.

Just a quick search of term N900 shows many related bugs, there are
probably others I didn't notice:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557307
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546835
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532895
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565709
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591605

I really wish someone could figure it out. I don't know why Mozilla
can't get a repo working for one of the most high-profile N900 apps,
but everyone else doesn't seem to have any problems setting up working
repos.

I would /love/ to be able to auto-update Fennec nightlies from app manager.
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Re: Installing Firefox 4 beta 2 in N900 - howto?

2010-11-05 Thread Dawid Lorenz (maemobile)
 - Original message -
  On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Dawid Lorenz da...@lorenz.co wrote:
   I'm experiencing problems installing Firefox 4 beta 2 on my device.
  
  It's a long-running problem. I haven't been able to install from
  Mozilla repos in what seems like a year. I don't know if anyone is
  able to install from their repos from App Manager. Maybe if someone
  can we can figure out what is different about their setup.
  
  Only solution for me is to download the deb file and install with dpkg.
  

That's what I'll probably do at the end but I'm feeling dirty just thinking 
about dpkg to install packages.

  Just a quick search of term N900 shows many related bugs, there are
  probably others I didn't notice:
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557307
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546835
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532895
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565709
  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591605
  
  I really wish someone could figure it out. I don't know why Mozilla
  can't get a repo working for one of the most high-profile N900 apps,
  but everyone else doesn't seem to have any problems setting up working
  repos.
  
  I would /love/ to be able to auto-update Fennec nightlies from app
  manager. 
 
Interesting thing is that these nightly builds updated from repo *did* work for 
me sometime ago (in pre-fennec 1.1 era), before I decided to get rid of fennec 
from my N900 altogether.

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Re: Installing Firefox 4 beta 2 in N900 - howto?

2010-11-05 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Dawid Lorenz (maemobile)
da...@lorenz.co wrote:
 Only solution for me is to download the deb file and install with dpkg.

 That's what I'll probably do at the end but I'm feeling dirty just thinking
 about dpkg to install packages.

The good news is that it is worth it, the latest Fennec nightlies are
really pretty good quality and browsing is very fast. (as long as you
don't need Flash...)

 Interesting thing is that these nightly builds updated from repo *did* work
 for me sometime ago (in pre-fennec 1.1 era), before I decided to get rid of
 fennec from my N900 altogether.

It used to work for me, too, I think it stopped working in early 2010
sometime, maybe around PR1.1.1 release,
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Re: Installing Firefox 4 beta 2 in N900 - howto?

2010-11-05 Thread Kevin Neely

On 11/05/2010 07:04 AM, Dawid Lorenz wrote:
 I'm experiencing problems installing Firefox 4 beta 2 on my device. I
 currently don't have Firefox/fennec installed at all. So here's what I
 do to get latest beta installed:

The upgrade just popped up for me as a regular software update.  I
wouldn't recommend it, however.  The app is so laggy for me that it's
unusable.

K
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