Re: N800 Disk Full? Erratic Behavior SOLVED
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 16:42 +0200, Eero Tamminen wrote: Collect the application deps on MMC and install only the libraries they depend from. Then you can install/remove them on demand. That is slow though, so I wouldn't do it except for something that I need only very seldomly, but is then very important (such as nethack. ;-)). Thank you all to have replied! Bomberman and Blitzkrieg are installed permanently ;-) -- Peter Bart [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://petertheplumber.net ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Disk Full? Erratic Behavior SOLVED
Hi, ext James Sparenberg wrote: On Sunday 28 October 2007 21:35:38 you wrote: Ok rundown one section at a time. snip Thank you for going through one at a time. It has helped me to understand. Alright. The following might go a long way to improving things for you. 1. Don't save files in /home/user if all they are is data (if it isn't a lib/driver or executable it's data) That seemed to be a large part of my problem. I moved all data files onto the memory cards. I had deleted all included pictures, videos, and users guides save the one I use at the time I flashed the device. Note: due to how JFFS2 filesystem (on the device root filesystem), the fuller the filesystem is, the more RAM it also uses (use 50MB of your root file system and the amount of your free RAM goes down a few MB too). 2. Make a decission on what software you actually use. I've got a ton of programs installed and I'm no where near 80% on / I also use every one of the programs I have installed. Daily. It's just to easy to install on the fly if I need something to worry about what I might need. I did just that and uninstalled a lot of software. I'm afraid I'm somewhat of a virtual packrat as well. Also this is *nix if you have installed on another box just run it from there. No need to have it all local (same thing for data) I would do this except for a large part of the day I'm out of wifi range. So I need that data and programs locally. Collect the application deps on MMC and install only the libraries they depend from. Then you can install/remove them on demand. That is slow though, so I wouldn't do it except for something that I need only very seldomly, but is then very important (such as nethack. ;-)). 3. go into your (what is that windows word. oh yeah) control panel and click memory and enable swap. Life will be better. Running as heavy as you are with installed apps and files, it's likely that the OS really could stand a memory boost. That's what this will provide. I do that right after flashing a new image. The IT is a small foot print device and a Linux system. Both of which shift the way non *nix users think about computers. All of the things mentioned above have reduced disk usage significantly. Thank you to all who have replied! Best Regards, As for going through it one line at a time. Hey I'm just paying it forward a bit here. Sooner or later it will be your turn to add to the mix. Some things that would help get larger, or more SD cards. Then you can swap them out for the sake of data access. (the outside card is hot swapable.) - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Disk Full? Erratic Behavior SOLVED
Eero Tamminen wrote: Note: due to how JFFS2 filesystem (on the device root filesystem), the fuller the filesystem is, the more RAM it also uses (use 50MB of your root file system and the amount of your free RAM goes down a few MB too). Oh, few MBs, really? How does it compare to ext2 usage? Maybe another argument to boot from mmc with 770? Every megabyte counts here. Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Disk Full? Erratic Behavior SOLVED
Hi, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: Note: due to how JFFS2 filesystem (on the device root filesystem), the fuller the filesystem is, the more RAM it also uses (use 50MB of your root file system and the amount of your free RAM goes down a few MB too). Oh, few MBs, really? How does it compare to ext2 usage? I have no idea. JFFS2 takes also more memory for files which are open. Maybe another argument to boot from mmc with 770? Every megabyte counts here. I think N800 JFFS2 driver rewrites badly fragmented blocks when they get full (=4KB as compressed), because otherwise very badly fragmented files (such as 100MB compressed syslog written one line at the time) could actually take tens of MBs of RAM (whereas rewriting blocks just slightly increases flash wearing and need for GC). I'm not sure whether this was fixed in the (early) 770 releases, if not, ext2/3 could indeed be better. JFFS2 doesn't really scale that well to larger file systems than what we currently have. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: N800 Disk Full? Erratic Behavior SOLVED
On Sunday 28 October 2007 21:35:38 you wrote: On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 20:41 -0700, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sunday 28 October 2007 10:04:02 Peter Bart wrote: Ok rundown one section at a time. snip Thank you for going through one at a time. It has helped me to understand. Alright. The following might go a long way to improving things for you. 1. Don't save files in /home/user if all they are is data (if it isn't a lib/driver or executable it's data) That seemed to be a large part of my problem. I moved all data files onto the memory cards. I had deleted all included pictures, videos, and users guides save the one I use at the time I flashed the device. 2. Make a decission on what software you actually use. I've got a ton of programs installed and I'm no where near 80% on / I also use every one of the programs I have installed. Daily. It's just to easy to install on the fly if I need something to worry about what I might need. I did just that and uninstalled a lot of software. I'm afraid I'm somewhat of a virtual packrat as well. Also this is *nix if you have installed on another box just run it from there. No need to have it all local (same thing for data) I would do this except for a large part of the day I'm out of wifi range. So I need that data and programs locally. 3. go into your (what is that windows word. oh yeah) control panel and click memory and enable swap. Life will be better. Running as heavy as you are with installed apps and files, it's likely that the OS really could stand a memory boost. That's what this will provide. I do that right after flashing a new image. The IT is a small foot print device and a Linux system. Both of which shift the way non *nix users think about computers. All of the things mentioned above have reduced disk usage significantly. Thank you to all who have replied! Best Regards, As for going through it one line at a time. Hey I'm just paying it forward a bit here. Sooner or later it will be your turn to add to the mix. Some things that would help get larger, or more SD cards. Then you can swap them out for the sake of data access. (the outside card is hot swapable.) James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
