Re: Nokia buys Trolltech
Alberto Garcia wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:16:25AM +, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > > >>> Maemo platforms [...] Maemo will continue to be based on Gnome >>> [...] and S40 and S60 will evolve with Qt" >>> >> Okay, but can you assume Nokia wont step by step drop Maemo? >> > > Of course not (not even before this announcement). > > I'm no futurologist, I just wrote what I heard in the webcast :) There is a tricky balancing act here - on the one hand, Qt is an extremely productive and extensive library and has a much nicer programming interface than GTK (excluding GTKMM, which I haven't looked at yet) - things like QtDesigner also make it quite compelling. On the other hand, Qtopia is not as nice a GUI as Maemo. The versions of Qtopia I've used (based off of the Zaurus sl5500 ROM versions 3.1 and 2.38 - Qtopia 1.x based, the Trolltech Qt 2.x ROM (very nice looking) as well as Opie the forked version of Qtopia free) were very much in the PalmOS mold. Desktop with shortcuts to apps, plus Windows style "start menu". Having used Maemo for a while, I much prefer the widgets on the desktop and the programs int he sub menu. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia buys Trolltech
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:16:25AM +, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > >Maemo platforms [...] Maemo will continue to be based on Gnome > >[...] and S40 and S60 will evolve with Qt" > > Okay, but can you assume Nokia wont step by step drop Maemo? Of course not (not even before this announcement). I'm no futurologist, I just wrote what I heard in the webcast :) -- Alberto García González http://people.igalia.com/berto/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia buys Trolltech
Alberto Garcia wrote: > Maemo platforms [...] Maemo will continue to be based on Gnome > [...] and S40 and S60 will evolve with Qt" Okay, but can you assume Nokia wont step by step drop Maemo? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia buys Trolltech
Trolltech had recently acquired fonav which sound quite interesting according to this snippet - Unified Communications Platform The FONAV solution is expected to be incorporated into Trolltech's Qtopia product line and offers a presence-based, unified live in-box for calls, email, instant messaging and voice messages. Presence is also integrated into the address book, and the user can easily control how and when he wishes to reach others providing an always-on connection to the user's social network. The Platform also creates new revenue opportunities for service providers, including broadband and VoIP operators, wire-line operators and web portals/communities. The Unified Communications Platform is fully SIP standards based and includes SIP compliant VoIP services with calls made to and received from any number. Instant messaging uses the open source Jabber (XMPP) protocol allowing users to communicate using text or voice with any open community such as Google™ Talk. Email includes POP3 and IMAP access and WiFi is compatible with 802.xx standards with secure access using hardware-based WEP and WPA. Hotspot authentication for selected wireless ISPs is also supported. "The connected device space is booming with innovative devices – from the Nokia N800 to the Apple iPhone, or the Sony Mylo. A rich software platform is a key ingredient to building devices like these," said Ram Fish, CEO, FONAV. "By combining forces with Trolltech, we now offer a rich open standards and open source platform for device vendors and a way of helping device manufacturers achieve fast time-to-market with a high quality user experience. Qtopia provides an excellent foundation to integrate multimedia, web and other technologies and enables phone manufacturers and service providers to innovate quickly at lower cost." http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2007-06-19.3922517821 On Jan 28, 2008 10:28 AM, Alberto Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 03:24:30PM +, Matt Emson wrote: > > > I hope that QTopia will be offered as an alternate, not a > > replacement to Maemo. > > http://www.nokia.com/A4813580 -> go to webcast > > According to Kai Öistämö (around minute 9): > > "I want also to make clear that the key driver for Nokia doing this > acquisition is not to develop a Linux-based mobile device. This > acquisition really is enhancing and making even more competitive S40, > S60 and Maemo platforms [...] Maemo will continue to be based on Gnome > [...] and S40 and S60 will evolve with Qt" > > -- > Alberto García González > http://people.igalia.com/berto/ > > ___ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users > -- Jonathan Greene +1.914.750.8740 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype / Gizmo - JonathanGreene blogs - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp / http://www.maemoapps.com ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia buys Trolltech
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 03:24:30PM +, Matt Emson wrote: > I hope that QTopia will be offered as an alternate, not a > replacement to Maemo. http://www.nokia.com/A4813580 -> go to webcast According to Kai Öistämö (around minute 9): "I want also to make clear that the key driver for Nokia doing this acquisition is not to develop a Linux-based mobile device. This acquisition really is enhancing and making even more competitive S40, S60 and Maemo platforms [...] Maemo will continue to be based on Gnome [...] and S40 and S60 will evolve with Qt" -- Alberto García González http://people.igalia.com/berto/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: Nokia buys Trolltech
Steve Yelvington wrote: > Now, this is interesting. > > http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2008-01-28.4605718236 > Okay, usually I don't post FUD, bet here goes: About 8 months ago, I was working for a company that wanted to utilise RFID with locational reporting. Nokia sold us on their "Field force" platform. I was written in Java and used special phones with either RFID readers built in or RFID readers built in to jackets. I went on a training course with 2 other people from my company and we were quite happy and excited with the solution. We were encouraged when the trainer (nice Spanish fellow) seemed open to feeding our requirements back to the developers. The API was okay, and the example applications gave us an "off the shelf" midp applet to get going with. Right. Here's were it turns out nasty.About 3 or 4 weeks after the training course, our accounts were canceled and moved to a new server. Odd we thought. About 2 -3 weeks after that, the entire Field Force project was canceled. The project was put on maintenance - that is, no improvements, vague promises of support for 2 or 3 years, and the phone we required (ruggedised 6xxx series iirc) was canceled. So, the entire project was thrown off kilter. I really, really hope that experience will not be repeated here. My experience with Nokia is otherwise positive, but (making a bit of a quantum leap) I hope that QTopia will be offered as an alternate, not a replacement to Maemo. QTopia is a lot more traditional PDA based and I'm not sure I would like to end up with that as an upgrade path. M ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Nokia buys Trolltech
Now, this is interesting. http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2008-01-28.4605718236 ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
