Re: OS2008 on N800: probable bugs

2007-12-10 Thread James Sparenberg
On Friday 07 December 2007 01:17:12 am Neil MacLeod wrote:
 Laurent GUERBY wrote:
  - I've had three times after selecting lock touch screen in
  keys where after pressing power and seeing now press HOME the
  HOME button was inactive and I had to remove the battery or
  shutdown through remote ssh. This is with unmodified
  systemui.xml.
 
  I'll open bugzilla if I'm not alone in seeing this.

 You're not alone, check bug 2311[1] - N800 running OS2008 forgets
 it has any hardware buttons. Rather than pop the battery and
 reboot, a workaround which works for some people is to pop out the
 camera which sometimes reactivates the disabled buttons.

 1. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2311


Why am I suddenly reminded of a Rat in a Skinner box back in my 
College days.  He had 'learned' that when his lever stopped giving 
food to pee on it, so it would start giving him food again.   

(just found this humorous is all, sorry.)

James
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Re: OS2008 on N800: probable bugs

2007-12-07 Thread Neil MacLeod
Laurent GUERBY wrote:
 - I've had three times after selecting lock touch screen in keys where
 after pressing power and seeing now press HOME the HOME button was
 inactive and I had to remove the battery or shutdown through remote ssh.
 This is with unmodified systemui.xml.
 
 I'll open bugzilla if I'm not alone in seeing this.
 
You're not alone, check bug 2311[1] - N800 running OS2008 forgets it has any 
hardware buttons. Rather than pop the battery and reboot, a workaround which 
works for some people is to pop out the camera which sometimes reactivates the 
disabled buttons.

1. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2311

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Re: OS2008 on N800: probable bugs

2007-11-29 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 20:46 +0100, ext Laurent GUERBY wrote:
...
 For the third problem even if there's a workaround
 that worked at least once (wait until screen is off)
 I got into a situation where I was unlocked
 but all the physical buttons (pad, home, the three buttons, +/-/full
 size) where not doing anything whereas power and stylus+thumb
 where still working perfectly. I tried sysklogd but saw nothing, I
 launched xev through ssh and no event were generated for not working
 buttons.

AFAIK, this was a touchscreen driver bug and will be fixed in the next
SW update.

-Kimmo

 
 Any suggestion on what to look at if this happens again?
 
 I've added this to:
 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=941
 
 Laurent
 
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OS2008 on N800: probable bugs

2007-11-28 Thread Laurent GUERBY
After a bit more testing I found out:

- when selecting a wifi connection the list refreshes and moves
all the time: in a street in Paris with about 50 signals it's nearly
impossible to select something down the list, refresh sends cursor
back to beginning of list every second or so (Searching never goes
away).

- I'm not able to activate the virtual finger keyboard using
my finger: internet search, web browser, application manager (forms),
xterm input areas when thumb pressed seem to always show the virtual
stylet keyboard. Only notes seems to detect properly a finger touch
within its (larger) input area and opens the finger keyboard.

- I've had three times after selecting lock touch screen in keys where
after pressing power and seeing now press HOME the HOME button was
inactive and I had to remove the battery or shutdown through remote ssh.
This is with unmodified systemui.xml.

I'll open bugzilla if I'm not alone in seeing this.

Sincerely,

Laurent

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Re: OS2008 on N800: probable bugs

2007-11-28 Thread Steve Yelvington
Laurent GUERBY wrote:
 - when selecting a wifi connection the list refreshes and moves
 all the time: in a street in Paris with about 50 signals it's nearly
 impossible to select something down the list, refresh sends cursor
 back to beginning of list every second or so (Searching never goes
 away).
   
I had that problem with OS2007 as well.
 - I'm not able to activate the virtual finger keyboard using
 my finger: internet search, web browser, application manager (forms),
 xterm input areas when thumb pressed seem to always show the virtual
 stylet keyboard. Only notes seems to detect properly a finger touch
 within its (larger) input area and opens the finger keyboard.
   

Definitely verified. Pushing the square navigation button pops up the 
fatfinger keyboard.

 - I've had three times after selecting lock touch screen in keys where
 after pressing power and seeing now press HOME the HOME button was
 inactive and I had to remove the battery or shutdown through remote ssh.
 This is with unmodified systemui.xml.
Have not encountered this problem.

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Re: OS2008 on N800: probable bugs

2007-11-28 Thread Laurent GUERBY
Thanks to all who answered in public or privately.

For connection selection in crowded wifi, it's the scrollbar
that's unusable, using up and down pad is kinda okay. Situation
is not that great but it might now warrant a bugzilla.

Same thing for virtual finger, Home button is a good
workaround at least on N800.

For the third problem even if there's a workaround
that worked at least once (wait until screen is off)
I got into a situation where I was unlocked
but all the physical buttons (pad, home, the three buttons, +/-/full
size) where not doing anything whereas power and stylus+thumb
where still working perfectly. I tried sysklogd but saw nothing, I
launched xev through ssh and no event were generated for not working
buttons.

Any suggestion on what to look at if this happens again?

I've added this to:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=941

Laurent

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Re: OS2008 on N800: probable bugs

2007-11-28 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Laurent GUERBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 - when selecting a wifi connection the list refreshes and moves
 all the time: in a street in Paris with about 50 signals it's nearly
 impossible to select something down the list, refresh sends cursor
 back to beginning of list every second or so (Searching never goes
 away).

That's bad, I will forward this to our UI specialists. Please also
file a bug about this, if you have the time. It makes things a lot
easier.

Now I just need to convince my boss that we need to personally go to
Paris to test this. It's (again) getting too cold in Finland ;)

-- 
Kalle Valo
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