Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-11 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Theodore Tso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The problem was that extras is a non-existent component in
> repository.maemo.org.  Previous versions of the firmware would just
> ignore the non-existent component.
>
> The latest version seems to abort the "apt-get update" process and
> leave you with the old package information --- for all catalogs, not
> just the one with the bogus extra component.

Hmm, that is unexpected.  There shouldn't be any change in the
behavior in this area.

If you feel like it, could you experiment a bit with apt-get update in
the shell and "Refresh list of applications" in the Application
Manager UI?

To get a clean slate, do

   # rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*

After that, both apt-get update and "Refresh list of applications"
_should_ get you back into a useable state and should ignore
non-existing distributions or components.

You can review detailed messages with "Tools > Log" in the Application
Manager.  (Upcoming versions of the Application Manager will be more
helpful with debugging catalogue configurations.)
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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-10 Thread Piotr Zagorowski
If you have ssh server and xterm installed, you can:
- run xterm
- ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- cp  /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.oryg
- add all repositories you want or copy from internet ready file
- or if you have already "extended" version: cp
/etc/apt/sources.list."extended" /etc/apt/sources.list
- apt-get update
Usually if something is wrong with repositories sites/files/keys  it
shows some error and it helps with further investigation.


Pit

On 7/10/07, Kevin T. Neely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:23:31 -0400
> Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I figured this out by eliminating all non-essential categories until
> > the package information was getting properly updated, and then I was
> > able to figure out that the problem was the extra, non-existent
> > component.  Once I eliminated that, I was able to install skype,
> > openssh, etc.
>
> I have run into this problem before and have found it is best to just
> periodically purge all but the most "official-looking" repositories I
> have in the Application Manager.  This is annoying, as then I have to
> go back and find and re-enter the repositories that I need.
>
> Mayber there is some logging somewhere that tells you exactly what is
> failing.  I haven't found it yet.
>
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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-10 Thread Kevin T. Neely
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:23:31 -0400
Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I figured this out by eliminating all non-essential categories until
> the package information was getting properly updated, and then I was
> able to figure out that the problem was the extra, non-existent
> component.  Once I eliminated that, I was able to install skype,
> openssh, etc. 

I have run into this problem before and have found it is best to just
periodically purge all but the most "official-looking" repositories I
have in the Application Manager.  This is annoying, as then I have to
go back and find and re-enter the repositories that I need.

Mayber there is some logging somewhere that tells you exactly what is
failing.  I haven't found it yet.

Kevin
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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-10 Thread Theodore Tso
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:10:33PM -0400, dasDasein wrote:
> When I click the installer for OpenSSH from Maemo download site, it fails to
> add repository and install.  I manually entered the repository, and try to
> install openssh-installer I get ... "Unable to download. Package not found."

I ran into one problem because I had the following in my application
catalog

Catalog name:   Maemo
Web address:http://repository.maemo.org
Distribution:   bora
Components: free non-free extras
  ^^

The problem was that extras is a non-existent component in
repository.maemo.org.  Previous versions of the firmware would just
ignore the non-existent component.

The latest version seems to abort the "apt-get update" process and
leave you with the old package information --- for all catalogs, not
just the one with the bogus extra component.

I figured this out by eliminating all non-essential categories until
the package information was getting properly updated, and then I was
able to figure out that the problem was the extra, non-existent
component.  Once I eliminated that, I was able to install skype,
openssh, etc. 

Don't know if this is the problem you ran into, but maybe it will help
some others

- Ted
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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-09 Thread Ryan Pavlik
Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:10:33PM -0400, dasDasein wrote:
>   
>> When I click the installer for OpenSSH from Maemo download site, it fails to
>> add repository and install.  I manually entered the repository, and try to
>> install openssh-installer I get ... "Unable to download. Package not found."
>>
>> But I am able to browse the repository manually...
>>
>> http://mg.pov.lt/770/dists/mistral/user/binary-armel/
>>
>> and download the package (openssh-installer_0.1-1_armel.deb) manually.
>> 
>
> This was an attempt to build an empty user-installable package
> (openssh-installer) that depends on a non-user-installable package
> (ssh).  The attempt wasn't successful because these two packages come
> from different repositories, and a single .install file cannot add two
> repostitories at once.
>
> I you have the maemo repository (the SDK one) added to your app
> installer, you ought to be able to use this method to get OpenSSH.
>
> Marius Gedminas
>   
The OpenSSH install file on maemo.org should work when you are in 
red-pill mode, which will allow you to install "non-user" packages.  At 
least, that's how I did it.

Ryan

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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-09 Thread Kahlil Johnson
I know, I also re flashed and had the same issue. But after getting
dropbesr i didn'tmiss it.
On 7/9/07, dasDasein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Strange.  I had ssh installed previously.  (I had to re-flash my os
> recently).  I don't remember having these difficulties.
>
> Does Dropbear include scp?
>
>
> On 7/9/07, Kahlil Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think the installer is just that, an installer. Dropbear is a
> > cutdown version of SSH is good for the limited resources of N770.
> > I use dropbear and unless you really need to use ssh-agent, sftp and
> > other higher features of a regulra ssh. Dropbear is good enough.
> >
> > On 7/9/07, dasDasein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > When I click the installer for OpenSSH from Maemo download site, it
> fails to
> > > add repository and install.  I manually entered the repository, and try
> to
> > > install openssh-installer I get ... "Unable to download. Package not
> found."
> > >
> > > But I am able to browse the repository manually...
> > >
> > > http://mg.pov.lt/770/dists/mistral/user/binary-armel/
> > >
> > > and download the package
> > > (openssh-installer_0.1-1_armel.deb) manually.
> > >
> > > Tony K.
> > >  Red-Pill enabled.
> > >
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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-09 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:10:33PM -0400, dasDasein wrote:
> When I click the installer for OpenSSH from Maemo download site, it fails to
> add repository and install.  I manually entered the repository, and try to
> install openssh-installer I get ... "Unable to download. Package not found."
> 
> But I am able to browse the repository manually...
> 
> http://mg.pov.lt/770/dists/mistral/user/binary-armel/
> 
> and download the package (openssh-installer_0.1-1_armel.deb) manually.

This was an attempt to build an empty user-installable package
(openssh-installer) that depends on a non-user-installable package
(ssh).  The attempt wasn't successful because these two packages come
from different repositories, and a single .install file cannot add two
repostitories at once.

I you have the maemo repository (the SDK one) added to your app
installer, you ought to be able to use this method to get OpenSSH.

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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-09 Thread Piotr Zagorowski
I agree, for most things Dropbear is good enough.
It does include scp.

Pit

On 7/9/07, dasDasein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Strange.  I had ssh installed previously.  (I had to re-flash my os
> recently).  I don't remember having these difficulties.
>
> Does Dropbear include scp?
>
>
> On 7/9/07, Kahlil Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think the installer is just that, an installer. Dropbear is a
> > cutdown version of SSH is good for the limited resources of N770.
> > I use dropbear and unless you really need to use ssh-agent, sftp and
> > other higher features of a regulra ssh. Dropbear is good enough.
> >
> > On 7/9/07, dasDasein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > When I click the installer for OpenSSH from Maemo download site, it
> fails to
> > > add repository and install.  I manually entered the repository, and try
> to
> > > install openssh-installer I get ... "Unable to download. Package not
> found."
> > >
> > > But I am able to browse the repository manually...
> > >
> > > http://mg.pov.lt/770/dists/mistral/user/binary-armel/
> > >
> > > and download the package
> > > (openssh-installer_0.1-1_armel.deb) manually.
> > >
> > > Tony K.
> > >  Red-Pill enabled.
> > >
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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-09 Thread Neil MacLeod
dasDasein wrote:
> When I click the installer for OpenSSH from Maemo download site, it 
> fails to add repository and install.  I manually entered the repository, 
> and try to install openssh-installer I get ... "Unable to download. 
> Package not found."
> 
> But I am able to browse the repository manually...
> 
> http://mg.pov.lt/770/dists/mistral/user/binary-armel/
> 
> and download the package (openssh-installer_0.1-1_armel.deb) manually.
> 
> Tony K.
> Red-Pill enabled.
> 
I think the one click Install adds the required repository, then bombs on the 
actual installation because it isn't compatible with the Application Manager 
for some reason.

What I did was click on the OpenSSH Install file to add the repository, exited 
from App Manager once I saw the install had failed, opened xterm, sudo 
gainroot, apt-get install ssh. Job done.

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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-09 Thread dasDasein

Strange.  I had ssh installed previously.  (I had to re-flash my os
recently).  I don't remember having these difficulties.

Does Dropbear include scp?

On 7/9/07, Kahlil Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I think the installer is just that, an installer. Dropbear is a
cutdown version of SSH is good for the limited resources of N770.
I use dropbear and unless you really need to use ssh-agent, sftp and
other higher features of a regulra ssh. Dropbear is good enough.

On 7/9/07, dasDasein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I click the installer for OpenSSH from Maemo download site, it
fails to
> add repository and install.  I manually entered the repository, and try
to
> install openssh-installer I get ... "Unable to download. Package not
found."
>
> But I am able to browse the repository manually...
>
> http://mg.pov.lt/770/dists/mistral/user/binary-armel/
>
> and download the package
> (openssh-installer_0.1-1_armel.deb) manually.
>
> Tony K.
>  Red-Pill enabled.
>
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Re: OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-09 Thread Kahlil Johnson
I think the installer is just that, an installer. Dropbear is a
cutdown version of SSH is good for the limited resources of N770.
I use dropbear and unless you really need to use ssh-agent, sftp and
other higher features of a regulra ssh. Dropbear is good enough.

On 7/9/07, dasDasein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I click the installer for OpenSSH from Maemo download site, it fails to
> add repository and install.  I manually entered the repository, and try to
> install openssh-installer I get ... "Unable to download. Package not found."
>
> But I am able to browse the repository manually...
>
> http://mg.pov.lt/770/dists/mistral/user/binary-armel/
>
> and download the package
> (openssh-installer_0.1-1_armel.deb) manually.
>
> Tony K.
>  Red-Pill enabled.
>
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OpenSSH on OS 2006 repository problem?

2007-07-09 Thread dasDasein

When I click the installer for OpenSSH from Maemo download site, it fails to
add repository and install.  I manually entered the repository, and try to
install openssh-installer I get ... "Unable to download. Package not found."

But I am able to browse the repository manually...

http://mg.pov.lt/770/dists/mistral/user/binary-armel/

and download the package (openssh-installer_0.1-1_armel.deb) manually.

Tony K.
Red-Pill enabled.
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