Re: Possible to use the N800 as WLAN Access Point?

2007-05-20 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 15:32 +0200, Frantisek Dufka wrote:
 Toby Proctor wrote:
  Just a thought I had last night, but is it possible to reverse the 
  polarity of the WLAN on the N800 and turn it into a small, portable 
  hotspot which uses e.g. an HSDPA cellphone as the backhaul?
  
  Toby
 
 Well even if it was possible, it isn't very good idea battery-wise. When 
 running as AP battery would run out _very_ quicky since AP mode cannot 
 use WLAN power saving and need to communicate a lot. Also the speed of 
 WLAN in N800 isn't exactly great. So basically you would get expensive 
 and slow access point with touscreen and high resolution display.

GPRS isn't high bandwidth and there are many place with electricity
(anywhere your car is for example :), GPRS coverage but otherwise
without internet connection so I wouldn't dismiss so quickly the
usefulness of an AP mode for the N800.

Laurent

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Re: Possible to use the N800 as WLAN Access Point?

2007-05-20 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Laurent GUERBY wrote:

 GPRS isn't high bandwidth and there are many place with electricity
 (anywhere your car is for example :), GPRS coverage but otherwise
 without internet connection so I wouldn't dismiss so quickly the
 usefulness of an AP mode for the N800.

Yes but if you plan to keep it on charger, you can do same thing with 
cheap AP at 1/10 of N800's price and use N800 freely. Still agreed that 
it could be useful sometimes.

Frantisek
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Re: Possible to use the N800 as WLAN Access Point?

2007-05-20 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Sun, 2007-05-20 at 21:13 +0200, Frantisek Dufka wrote:
 Laurent GUERBY wrote:
 
  GPRS isn't high bandwidth and there are many place with electricity
  (anywhere your car is for example :), GPRS coverage but otherwise
  without internet connection so I wouldn't dismiss so quickly the
  usefulness of an AP mode for the N800.
 
 Yes but if you plan to keep it on charger, you can do same thing with 
 cheap AP at 1/10 of N800's price and use N800 freely. 

The N800 attractiveness stems from its ability to replace many
devices :).

It's hard to find an AP that does bluetooth+GPRS or GPRS,
do you have a reference?

Laurent


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Re: Possible to use the N800 as WLAN Access Point?

2007-05-20 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Laurent GUERBY wrote:

 It's hard to find an AP that does bluetooth+GPRS or GPRS,
 do you have a reference?
 

Well, you could still use bluetooth phone attached to N800 as a default 
gateway for other devices on the net even if N800 is not AP.

I don't have reference to AP with bluetooth built in but I guess any 
linux based wlan router with usb ports can use bluetooth dongle or phone 
attached directly over USB. Asus WL-500gP is nice (266MHz MIPS CPU, 32MB 
RAM, 2xUSB 2.0 ports, 2.4 based linux kernel) and relatively cheap piece 
of hardware. I'm using it with USB CDMA modem. It can do GPRS with 
attached phone too. Could probably work with USB BT dongle with some 
hacking.

Frantisek
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Re: Possible to use the N800 as WLAN Access Point?

2007-05-19 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Toby Proctor wrote:
 Just a thought I had last night, but is it possible to reverse the 
 polarity of the WLAN on the N800 and turn it into a small, portable 
 hotspot which uses e.g. an HSDPA cellphone as the backhaul?
 
 Toby

Well even if it was possible, it isn't very good idea battery-wise. When 
running as AP battery would run out _very_ quicky since AP mode cannot 
use WLAN power saving and need to communicate a lot. Also the speed of 
WLAN in N800 isn't exactly great. So basically you would get expensive 
and slow access point with touscreen and high resolution display.

Frantisek
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Possible to use the N800 as WLAN Access Point?

2007-05-18 Thread Toby Proctor

Just a thought I had last night, but is it possible to reverse the
polarity of the WLAN on the N800 and turn it into a small, portable hotspot
which uses e.g. an HSDPA cellphone as the backhaul?

Toby
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Re: Possible to use the N800 as WLAN Access Point?

2007-05-18 Thread Brad Midgley

Toby

Just a thought I had last night, but is it possible to reverse the

polarity of the WLAN on the N800 and turn it into a small, portable hotspot
which uses e.g. an HSDPA cellphone as the backhaul?



This came up before--basically you need to be able to choose master mode in
the wifi driver. I think the answer from those in the know was that master
mode isn't available in the driver we have.

Brad
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