RE: External Monitor with N800

2007-10-19 Thread Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Kalle,

Thank you! I think I'll give it a shot.  If it works, great and I'll post
the results.  If it doesn't, lesson learned and I'll still post the results.

Nick.
 

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Subject: Re: External Monitor with N800

ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800,
 directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do
with
 VNC).  In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays
on
 an external monitor.  

 I believe we had a similar discussion several months back.  Is this
 possible?  The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify.

You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a
similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use
USB2VGA for that:

http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/

http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter

It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not
for normal users.

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Re: External Monitor with N800

2007-10-18 Thread Mike Klein
I think we'll see this soon enough...especially nice for higher-res
pdas/etc.

OQO has hdmi out...and I think they're the only ones with such a thing.

When you move your umpc/ppc into new context/environment...you will want
to replace inputs and outputs (speakers, screen, mic, keybd,
etc.)...ideally all thru bluetoothbut bt imaging is kinda weak still
I think.

Then you've truly got a modular heart/brains unit that can be used
standalone or integrated into larger device when in car, etc.

I consider addition of hdmi out to these class of devices a must-have
almost.


mike

Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
 My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800,
 directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do with
 VNC).  In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays on
 an external monitor.  

 I believe we had a similar discussion several months back.  Is this
 possible?  The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify.
 

 You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a
 similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use
 USB2VGA for that:

 http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/

 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter

 It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not
 for normal users.

   
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Re: External Monitor with N800

2007-10-18 Thread John Rudd

Aside from substituting DVI with DVI-A for HDMI, I agree.

It'd be nice to see decent video out on the internet tablets.


Mike Klein wrote:
 I think we'll see this soon enough...especially nice for higher-res
 pdas/etc.
 
 OQO has hdmi out...and I think they're the only ones with such a thing.
 
 When you move your umpc/ppc into new context/environment...you will want
 to replace inputs and outputs (speakers, screen, mic, keybd,
 etc.)...ideally all thru bluetoothbut bt imaging is kinda weak still
 I think.
 
 Then you've truly got a modular heart/brains unit that can be used
 standalone or integrated into larger device when in car, etc.
 
 I consider addition of hdmi out to these class of devices a must-have
 almost.
 
 
 mike
 
 Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
 My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800,
 directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do with
 VNC).  In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays on
 an external monitor.  

 I believe we had a similar discussion several months back.  Is this
 possible?  The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify.
 
 You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a
 similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use
 USB2VGA for that:

 http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/

 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter

 It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not
 for normal users.

   
 
 
 
 
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Re: External Monitor with N800

2007-10-18 Thread Mike Klein
Then you'd have to have a dongle, no? Dongles are evil...I carry around
too much crap already.

Why would you prefer dvi?

If it were hdmi...it w/have to be v1.3? cause this is only version that
supports HD video with audiosupposedly earlier hdmi versions
wouldn't support full audio when doing 1080p.


mike

John Rudd wrote:

 Aside from substituting DVI with DVI-A for HDMI, I agree.

 It'd be nice to see decent video out on the internet tablets.


 Mike Klein wrote:
 I think we'll see this soon enough...especially nice for higher-res
 pdas/etc.

 OQO has hdmi out...and I think they're the only ones with such a thing.

 When you move your umpc/ppc into new context/environment...you will want
 to replace inputs and outputs (speakers, screen, mic, keybd,
 etc.)...ideally all thru bluetoothbut bt imaging is kinda weak still
 I think.

 Then you've truly got a modular heart/brains unit that can be used
 standalone or integrated into larger device when in car, etc.

 I consider addition of hdmi out to these class of devices a must-have
 almost.


 mike

 Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
 My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800,
 directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what
 I do with
 VNC).  In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output
 displays on
 an external monitor. 
 I believe we had a similar discussion several months back.  Is this
 possible?  The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify.
 
 You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a
 similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use
 USB2VGA for that:

 http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/

 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter

 It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not
 for normal users.

   


 

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Re: External Monitor with N800

2007-10-18 Thread John Rudd

You don't need a dongle, no.  Just a cable.

If you have a miniDVI port on a device, then you can have a simple cable 
that is:

1) MiniDVI to HDMI (just the video signals)
2) MiniDVI to DVI
3) MiniDVI to VGA*
4) MiniDVI to Video*

(* only if the dvi hardware supports DVI-A (the analog pins))

HDMI can't do #3 nor #4, because its video pins are DVI minus DVI-A, 
so it is ultimately less flexible.  You can't easily connect it to a VGA 
monitor nor analog TV.

That's why I prefer DVI over HDMI.

And, I'm not suggesting the need for analog because I think it's still 
important to support analog.  I'm suggesting it so that those who want 
to use their internet tablet as a light weight mobile workstation can do 
so cheaply.  Just pick up any VGA monitor, or even an old TV, and you're 
in business.  You probably can fill this niche without even buying anything.


Mike Klein wrote:
 Then you'd have to have a dongle, no? Dongles are evil...I carry around
 too much crap already.
 
 Why would you prefer dvi?
 
 If it were hdmi...it w/have to be v1.3? cause this is only version that
 supports HD video with audiosupposedly earlier hdmi versions
 wouldn't support full audio when doing 1080p.
 
 
 mike
 
 John Rudd wrote:
 Aside from substituting DVI with DVI-A for HDMI, I agree.

 It'd be nice to see decent video out on the internet tablets.


 Mike Klein wrote:
 I think we'll see this soon enough...especially nice for higher-res
 pdas/etc.

 OQO has hdmi out...and I think they're the only ones with such a thing.

 When you move your umpc/ppc into new context/environment...you will want
 to replace inputs and outputs (speakers, screen, mic, keybd,
 etc.)...ideally all thru bluetoothbut bt imaging is kinda weak still
 I think.

 Then you've truly got a modular heart/brains unit that can be used
 standalone or integrated into larger device when in car, etc.

 I consider addition of hdmi out to these class of devices a must-have
 almost.


 mike

 Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
 My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800,
 directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what
 I do with
 VNC).  In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output
 displays on
 an external monitor. 
 I believe we had a similar discussion several months back.  Is this
 possible?  The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify.
 
 You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a
 similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use
 USB2VGA for that:

 http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/

 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter

 It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not
 for normal users.

   

 

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Re: External Monitor with N800

2007-10-17 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My wife would like to display presentations, that reside on the N800,
 directly to a monitor without using another computer (such as what I do with
 VNC).  In other words, presentation runs on the N800 and output displays on
 an external monitor.  

 I believe we had a similar discussion several months back.  Is this
 possible?  The answer was, I believe, no but I want to verify.

You are correct, N810 does not have video output. But there was a
similar question posted to lwn.net and someone suggested to use
USB2VGA for that:

http://lwn.net/Articles/254916/

http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddVGAAdapter

It might or might not work. But this would be a hacker project, not
for normal users.

-- 
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