RE: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[Igor Stoppa]

On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 13:24 -0600, ext Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:

> 1.  The N810 has a slide out keyboard while the N800 does not.  Having a
> physical keyboard is nice but so, sometimes, is having a virtual keyboard
> especially when you have the device on its stand.

The virtual keyboard works also on th n810, it ahs not been removed.

> 2.  Most of the applications behave the same way using the same OS.  I think
> the web cam is of higher quality on the N800 than the N810 from my testing
> last night.  

The sensor should be the same. At least the resolution is and afaik both
cameras are using the same kernel driver.

> 3.  The FM radio is listed as a download so I assume it will work on the
> N810 just as it did on the N800.

No. It's located in the BT chip of the n800, which is different (and
without FM radio) in the n810.

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RE: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[Dr. Nicholas Shaw]

John,

I've had a N800 since they first came out (01/07).  It's a great little
device and I've been very pleased with it.  Recently, however, it started to
go south.  I thought it was the battery but that does not appear to be the
case so I went and purchased a N810 which I received yesterday.  It took a
few hours but everything is configured and works well.

On to your question about which is better:

1.  The N810 has a slide out keyboard while the N800 does not.  Having a
physical keyboard is nice but so, sometimes, is having a virtual keyboard
especially when you have the device on its stand.

2.  Most of the applications behave the same way using the same OS.  I think
the web cam is of higher quality on the N800 than the N810 from my testing
last night.  

3.  The FM radio is listed as a download so I assume it will work on the
N810 just as it did on the N800.

4.  The buttons, at least so far, seem better placed on the N810 versus the
N800.

Regards,

Nick.

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Subject: Re: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

All,

the N800 has an FM radio built in. I am not certain about whether or not 
the N810 has one.


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC


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Jeff Treague wrote:
> *The n800 or n810 this is what I know*
> 
> 1. The web cam on the n800 moves-good.
>
> 2.the gps on the n810 is better than the n800.
> Dose gps work at all on the n800?3. I like to right and the n800 has 
> the thum keyboard-I like that on the n770
>
> 4.the n810 has a bilt in key baord - I read that it was bad for big 
> fingers.
>
> 5.I like Quiver Image Viewer use it all the time on n770-both the
> n800 & the n810 can use it
>
> 6. how is wright on the n800 or n810 can you save fast and offen?
>
> 7.the n800 has two card insted of one-is this good the n810 has one
> card.
> A. The n800 one slot is hard to get to
>
> 8. n800 cost less
>
> 9. The softwere works the same
>
> This is what I fond out by looking around, which is better
> The Blacknight
>
> 
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Re: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[Igor Stoppa]

On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 14:14 -0400, ext John Holmblad wrote:

> the N800 has an FM radio built in. I am not certain about whether or not 
> the N810 has one.

It doesn't.

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Re: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[John Holmblad]

All,

the N800 has an FM radio built in. I am not certain about whether or not 
the N810 has one.


Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC






Jeff Treague wrote:
> *The n800 or n810 this is what I know*
> 
> 1. The web cam on the n800 moves-good.
>
> 2.the gps on the n810 is better than the n800.
> Dose gps work at all on the n800?3. I like to right and the n800 has 
> the thum keyboard-I like that on the n770
>
> 4.the n810 has a bilt in key baord - I read that it was bad for big 
> fingers.
>
> 5.I like Quiver Image Viewer use it all the time on n770-both the
> n800 & the n810 can use it
>
> 6. how is wright on the n800 or n810 can you save fast and offen?
>
> 7.the n800 has two card insted of one-is this good the n810 has one
> card.
> A. The n800 one slot is hard to get to
>
> 8. n800 cost less
>
> 9. The softwere works the same
>
> This is what I fond out by looking around, which is better
> The Blacknight
>
> 
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Re: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[hendrik]

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 09:24:28AM -0600, Mark wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:09 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you want a physical keyboard on the n800 (touch-typists care about
> > this a lot), your choices are
> >  (a) bluetooth
> >  (b) USB with a female-to-female adapter and some software hacking.
> >
> > -- hendrik
> 
> USB keyboards don't really require what I would call "software
> hacking". You can use the command line, or better yet install USB
> Control, and it's a piece of cake.

Sounds like it's better now than I heard last year.

> 
> The caveat with either is that a reboot may be required in order to
> get the onscreen stylus keyboard back.
> 

Not a big deal.  Though it could be littler.

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Re: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[Ryan Pavlik]

Jeff Treague wrote:
> **
> 3. I like to right and the n800 has the thum keyboard-I like that on
> the n770
You can get to the onscreen thumb keyboard on the N810 too, I think.

Ryan

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Re: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[Mark]

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:09 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you want a physical keyboard on the n800 (touch-typists care about
> this a lot), your choices are
>  (a) bluetooth
>  (b) USB with a female-to-female adapter and some software hacking.
>
> -- hendrik

USB keyboards don't really require what I would call "software
hacking". You can use the command line, or better yet install USB
Control, and it's a piece of cake.

The caveat with either is that a reboot may be required in order to
get the onscreen stylus keyboard back.

Mark
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Re: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[hendrik]

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:51:49PM -0700, Jeff Treague wrote:
> 
> 7.the n800 has two card insted of one-is this good the n810 has one
> card.
> A. The n800 one slot is hard to get to

This means you put one in for stuff you want to have there permanently, 
and the other is for putting things in temporarily.  And, I suppose, 
that makes it easy to copy your permanent card to your temporary card 
for backup; then put the backup on a shelf where your n800 can't damage 
it.

> 
> 8. n800 cost less
> 
Unless you want the built-in keyboard or the built-in GPS, I think the 
n800 is a much better deal.

If you want a physical keyboard on the n800 (touch-typists care about 
this a lot), your choices are
  (a) bluetooth
  (b) USB with a female-to-female adapter and some software hacking.

-- hendrik

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Re: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[Eugene Antimirov]

> From: Jeff Treague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: maemo-users@maemo.org

> 2.the gps on the n810 is better than the n800.
> Dose gps work at all on the n800?3. I like to right and the n800 has the thum 
> keyboard-I like that on the n770
N800 does not have GPS at all. But it's possible to use external one
via Bluetooth.

> 4.the n810 has a bilt in key baord - I read that it was bad for big fingers.

It's bed only for really big finger. Don't worry.

> 6. how is wright on the n800 or n810 can you save fast and offen?

What's the question?

> 7.the n800 has two card insted of one-is this good the n810 has one
> card.
> A. The n800 one slot is hard to get to

N800 is definitely better - two full-sized card.

> 8. n800 cost less
IPhone costs less. It depends on your needs.

> This is what I fond out by looking around, which is better
> The Blacknight

So was it your investigation all you're asking us for advice?

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Re: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[Cedric Cellier]

The n800 weight only 206g against 226g for the n810.
Weight is the 810's only physical default IMHO.

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Re: The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[Geordie Millar]

On 17/07/2008, at 3:21 PM, Jeff Treague wrote:


The n800 or n810 this is what I know
1. The web cam on the n800 moves-good.


Yes, it does, but it's lower quality than the 810 one.



2.the gps on the n810 is better than the n800.
Dose gps work at all on the n800?3. I like to right and the n800 has  
the thum keyboard-I like that on the n770

The N800 doesn't have a GPS at all. You can use a Bluetooth one though.

4.the n810 has a bilt in key baord - I read that it was bad for big  
fingers.


Don't know but I suspect it might be.





5.I like Quiver Image Viewer use it all the time on n770-both the
n800 & the n810 can use it

6. how is wright on the n800 or n810 can you save fast and offen?


7.the n800 has two card insted of one-is this good the n810 has one
card.
A. The n800 one slot is hard to get to


The n800 has two full-sized SD slots. This means you can put two 32GB  
cards in for a total of 64GB. The N810 has one miniSD card, and you're  
limited to about 8GB, or 12GB if you use a mini to micro adaptor.



8. n800 cost less

9. The softwere works the same


Pretty much - they both run OS2008.




This is what I fond out by looking around, which is better
The Blacknight

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The n800 or n810 this is what I know, which is better

[Jeff Treague]

The n800 or n810 this is what I know 


1. The web cam on the n800 moves-good.

2.the gps on the n810 is better than the n800.
Dose gps work at all on the n800?3. I like to right and the n800 has the thum 
keyboard-I like that on the n770

4.the n810 has a bilt in key baord - I read that it was bad for big fingers.

5.I like Quiver Image Viewer use it all the time on n770-both the 
n800 & the n810 can use it

6. how is wright on the n800 or n810 can you save fast and offen?

7.the n800 has two card insted of one-is this good the n810 has one
card.
A. The n800 one slot is hard to get to

8. n800 cost less

9. The softwere works the same

This is what I fond out by looking around, which is better
The Blacknight


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