Re: cannot download LCARS themes
Mark wrote: [...] Actually, it wasn't LCARS that was broken, it was GPE that disregarded some of the system colors. Thank you for the correction. I tried for nearly a year to get any kind of response from either author, but got nothing, so I assumed neither of them was interested in making it all work. (Sometimes it's better just to lash out with an accusation, and hope that someone in the know will come back with a correction :-) Have the GPE people fixed this? Or do they still regard themselves as right and everyone else as wrong? If you tried any of the other dark themes, they all had the same issue. The problem comes from apps observing the system font colors but disregarding all the other system colors, specifically backgrounds. If those apps would at least let you pick your own colors, it would help. It sounds as if they need this explaining to them. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: cannot download LCARS themes
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie wrote: Mark wrote: [...] Actually, it wasn't LCARS that was broken, it was GPE that disregarded some of the system colors. Thank you for the correction. I tried for nearly a year to get any kind of response from either author, but got nothing, so I assumed neither of them was interested in making it all work. (Sometimes it's better just to lash out with an accusation, and hope that someone in the know will come back with a correction :-) Have the GPE people fixed this? Or do they still regard themselves as right and everyone else as wrong? If you tried any of the other dark themes, they all had the same issue. The problem comes from apps observing the system font colors but disregarding all the other system colors, specifically backgrounds. If those apps would at least let you pick your own colors, it would help. It sounds as if they need this explaining to them. ///Peter That particular issue probably just wasn't on their radar. I don't think the dark themes were even available when they were working on their apps. Plus, they had bigger fish to fry - GPE are supposedly working on better import/export, which is a much more important issue IMO. While colors ought to be easy to fix, major functionality issues outweigh minor cosmetic issues. Although I love the LCARS themes, ultimately I got a little tired of them anyway, and I found a darkish theme that uses dark fonts and doesn't interfere with gpe or maemoweather. Developers really ought to consider that many people's portable device use cases include situations where dark themes are very useful and appropriate and all apps should support _all_ the system colors _all the time_. But if they're not going to do that then they should ignore _all_ the system colors so readability doesn't suffer from themes other than the default. That's far from ideal, but far better than partial support. Dark themes are good for use in vehicles at night (so as not to destroy one's night vision or disturb others) and actually can make text easier to read in really bright situations (like sunlight) when the screen is not transflective (N770/800). Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: cannot download LCARS themes
Mark wrote: [...] That particular issue probably just wasn't on their radar. I don't think the dark themes were even available when they were working on their apps. Plus, they had bigger fish to fry - GPE are supposedly working on better import/export, which is a much more important issue Definitely. IMO. While colors ought to be easy to fix, major functionality issues outweigh minor cosmetic issues. Perhaps their triage isn't as effective as it might be. Requirement-importance vs Difficulty-of-completion is a hard act to balance. Developers really ought to consider that many people's portable device use cases include situations where dark themes are very useful and appropriate and all apps should support _all_ the system colors _all the time_. But if they're not going to do that then they should ignore _all_ the system colors so readability doesn't suffer from themes other than the default. That's far from ideal, but far better than partial support. Either that, or use a config file. Hard-wiring this kind of thing is so unnecessary. It used to be arguable that on a hand-held device, there wasn't space for configurability, but that is increasingly less so now. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: cannot download LCARS themes
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Peter Flynn peter.fl...@mars.ucc.ie wrote: Timo Pelkonen wrote: 2009/12/24 Kevin Kempter ke...@kevinkempterllc.com mailto:ke...@kevinkempterllc.com Hi All; I just got a new N900 - it rocks. However I cannot download any of the lcars theme's. On my N900, I browse to maemo.org http://maemo.org then select Downloads and I select OS2008. In the Desktop Environment category I find the lcars-complete and click on it's download link. my device then automatically takes me to the app manager, then I see a 'preparing for installation message', then after that's done I see this message: Unable to download 'lcars-complete' Application package not found. I've tried downloading the file and browsing to it via the file manager and I get the same results. Same thing happens for all the start trek themes Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks in advance Well, first thing could be that you don't try to install packages that belong to older OS to your device? OS2008 is an os that can be found in n8xx models, n900 has maemo5. And secondly, the LCARS themes were broken and never fixed, in respect of colour compatibility with other apps for OS2008 such as the GPE desktop stuff. Which is a great pity, as otherwise they were quite good. ///Peter Actually, it wasn't LCARS that was broken, it was GPE that disregarded some of the system colors. If you tried any of the other dark themes, they all had the same issue. The problem comes from apps observing the system font colors but disregarding all the other system colors, specifically backgrounds. If those apps would at least let you pick your own colors, it would help. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
cannot download LCARS themes
Hi All; I just got a new N900 - it rocks. However I cannot download any of the lcars theme's. On my N900, I browse to maemo.org then select Downloads and I select OS2008. In the Desktop Environment category I find the lcars-complete and click on it's download link. my device then automatically takes me to the app manager, then I see a 'preparing for installation message', then after that's done I see this message: Unable to download 'lcars-complete' Application package not found. I've tried downloading the file and browsing to it via the file manager and I get the same results. Same thing happens for all the start trek themes Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks in advance ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: cannot download LCARS themes
2009/12/24 Kevin Kempter ke...@kevinkempterllc.com Hi All; I just got a new N900 - it rocks. However I cannot download any of the lcars theme's. On my N900, I browse to maemo.org then select Downloads and I select OS2008. In the Desktop Environment category I find the lcars-complete and click on it's download link. my device then automatically takes me to the app manager, then I see a 'preparing for installation message', then after that's done I see this message: Unable to download 'lcars-complete' Application package not found. I've tried downloading the file and browsing to it via the file manager and I get the same results. Same thing happens for all the start trek themes Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks in advance Well, first thing could be that you don't try to install packages that belong to older OS to your device? OS2008 is an os that can be found in n8xx models, n900 has maemo5. Ossipena/ Timo ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: cannot download LCARS themes
Timo Pelkonen wrote: 2009/12/24 Kevin Kempter ke...@kevinkempterllc.com mailto:ke...@kevinkempterllc.com Hi All; I just got a new N900 - it rocks. However I cannot download any of the lcars theme's. On my N900, I browse to maemo.org http://maemo.org then select Downloads and I select OS2008. In the Desktop Environment category I find the lcars-complete and click on it's download link. my device then automatically takes me to the app manager, then I see a 'preparing for installation message', then after that's done I see this message: Unable to download 'lcars-complete' Application package not found. I've tried downloading the file and browsing to it via the file manager and I get the same results. Same thing happens for all the start trek themes Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks in advance Well, first thing could be that you don't try to install packages that belong to older OS to your device? OS2008 is an os that can be found in n8xx models, n900 has maemo5. And secondly, the LCARS themes were broken and never fixed, in respect of colour compatibility with other apps for OS2008 such as the GPE desktop stuff. Which is a great pity, as otherwise they were quite good. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
