disk space running short on /
Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? Thanks! Laurent ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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I had a blog post about this before I took my site down... Look into the app localepurge, you'll have to use some coreutils-vs-busybox trickery to install it from a package. Will cut out 5+ MB of translation files. Also consider ditching some of the default themes (again requiring package trickery, or just deleting the files outright), the wallpapers are a couple of megs each iirc. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Laurent GUERBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? Thanks! Laurent ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Why havent Nokia made an option for installing on the internal memory card on the N810 ?? The Tablet is great in every respect but this tiny little bug makes me a bit cross Then we wouldnt have to worry about this or reflashing your precious ;) when the system update borkes your tablet because lack of diskspace to install it. Im no programmer but there shouldnt be problem really, or am i thinking wrong? ;) //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 17.57 skrev Sparr: I had a blog post about this before I took my site down... Look into the app localepurge, you'll have to use some coreutils-vs- busybox trickery to install it from a package. Will cut out 5+ MB of translation files. Also consider ditching some of the default themes (again requiring package trickery, or just deleting the files outright), the wallpapers are a couple of megs each iirc. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Laurent GUERBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? Thanks! Laurent ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Laurent GUERBY wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? One nice thing about Linux, is that you can use symbolic links to move a subdirectory to a different filesystem. To do that, you create a new directory on your SD-RAM card and then move the contents of the old directory to is. After that's done, you can create the symlink, so that those files appear in the same location as before, even though they're on a different device. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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On Monday 20 October 2008 19:23:01 James Knott wrote: Laurent GUERBY wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? One nice thing about Linux, is that you can use symbolic links to move a subdirectory to a different filesystem. To do that, you create a new directory on your SD-RAM card and then move the contents of the old directory to is. After that's done, you can create the symlink, so that those files appear in the same location as before, even though they're on a different device. and expect the ssu to break, badly, on the next update... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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I know about symlinks :p And yes as Kenneth pointed out it will bork on the next update. Making a symlink is just a workaround of the real problem. Ie not being able to choose flashing target (which would be nice) or defaulting on internal memorycard on N810. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.27 skrev kenneth marken: On Monday 20 October 2008 19:23:01 James Knott wrote: Laurent GUERBY wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? One nice thing about Linux, is that you can use symbolic links to move a subdirectory to a different filesystem. To do that, you create a new directory on your SD-RAM card and then move the contents of the old directory to is. After that's done, you can create the symlink, so that those files appear in the same location as before, even though they're on a different device. and expect the ssu to break, badly, on the next update... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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My Windowz phone lefts me choose to install on my SD card, maybe Nokia will make this an option, or the package developers, since it could be controlled my the .deb package. However, once you remove the SD card, then your going to break your $PATH and what not when trying to run an app that lives on the SD card and is not there. Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Christer Eliasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know about symlinks :p And yes as Kenneth pointed out it will bork on the next update. Making a symlink is just a workaround of the real problem. Ie not being able to choose flashing target (which would be nice) or defaulting on internal memorycard on N810. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.27 skrev kenneth marken: On Monday 20 October 2008 19:23:01 James Knott wrote: Laurent GUERBY wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? One nice thing about Linux, is that you can use symbolic links to move a subdirectory to a different filesystem. To do that, you create a new directory on your SD-RAM card and then move the contents of the old directory to is. After that's done, you can create the symlink, so that those files appear in the same location as before, even though they're on a different device. and expect the ssu to break, badly, on the next update... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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The N810 have a internal memorycard that is non removable (as far as i know) so on that platform the $PATH bork wouldnt happen (hopefully ;) But as you said it shouldnt be that much of a problem to make it work. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.45 skrev Denis Dimick: My Windowz phone lefts me choose to install on my SD card, maybe Nokia will make this an option, or the package developers, since it could be controlled my the .deb package. However, once you remove the SD card, then your going to break your $PATH and what not when trying to run an app that lives on the SD card and is not there. Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Christer Eliasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know about symlinks :p And yes as Kenneth pointed out it will bork on the next update. Making a symlink is just a workaround of the real problem. Ie not being able to choose flashing target (which would be nice) or defaulting on internal memorycard on N810. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.27 skrev kenneth marken: On Monday 20 October 2008 19:23:01 James Knott wrote: Laurent GUERBY wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? One nice thing about Linux, is that you can use symbolic links to move a subdirectory to a different filesystem. To do that, you create a new directory on your SD-RAM card and then move the contents of the old directory to is. After that's done, you can create the symlink, so that those files appear in the same location as before, even though they're on a different device. and expect the ssu to break, badly, on the next update... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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On Oct 20, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: Why havent Nokia made an option for installing on the internal memory card on the N810 ?? The Tablet is great in every respect but this tiny little bug makes me a bit cross http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Chris, I was speaking about the removable SD on the n810, the internal one is full of Maps and what not for the GPS. Since I never use the GPS; seems like everything else I own has one built-in, I guess I could delete the maps and everything else on /media/mmc2. Thanks, Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Christer Eliasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The N810 have a internal memorycard that is non removable (as far as i know) so on that platform the $PATH bork wouldnt happen (hopefully ;) But as you said it shouldnt be that much of a problem to make it work. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.45 skrev Denis Dimick: My Windowz phone lefts me choose to install on my SD card, maybe Nokia will make this an option, or the package developers, since it could be controlled my the .deb package. However, once you remove the SD card, then your going to break your $PATH and what not when trying to run an app that lives on the SD card and is not there. Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Christer Eliasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know about symlinks :p And yes as Kenneth pointed out it will bork on the next update. Making a symlink is just a workaround of the real problem. Ie not being able to choose flashing target (which would be nice) or defaulting on internal memorycard on N810. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.27 skrev kenneth marken: On Monday 20 October 2008 19:23:01 James Knott wrote: Laurent GUERBY wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? One nice thing about Linux, is that you can use symbolic links to move a subdirectory to a different filesystem. To do that, you create a new directory on your SD-RAM card and then move the contents of the old directory to is. After that's done, you can create the symlink, so that those files appear in the same location as before, even though they're on a different device. and expect the ssu to break, badly, on the next update... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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I have seen that and to be honest i had actually forgot about it. But that is also a workaround as i see it as the option of installing to another target should be there by default. The reason why i havent fiddled with it myself is that im a proffession borker of tech stuff. ;) But thanks for the link, im gonna give it a go. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 19.56 skrev Ryan Abel: On Oct 20, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: Why havent Nokia made an option for installing on the internal memory card on the N810 ?? The Tablet is great in every respect but this tiny little bug makes me a bit cross http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: But that is also a workaround as i see it as the option of installing to another target should be there by default. The boot-from-SD method is faster, more stable, and generally way better than any let's break the system over multiple partitions- methods (it also provides you with a bootable backup). -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Ryan, Say someone does boot from SD, what happens when they remove the SD card to copy data over to it; I've run into a bug that causes scp to die/hang when copying large (AVI) files over wireless. Very good suggestion about boot from SD, I'd forgotten about this. Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: But that is also a workaround as i see it as the option of installing to another target should be there by default. The boot-from-SD method is faster, more stable, and generally way better than any let's break the system over multiple partitions- methods (it also provides you with a bootable backup). -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: Say someone does boot from SD, what happens when they remove the SD card to copy data over to it; I've run into a bug that causes scp to die/hang when copying large (AVI) files over wireless. If you're booted from it, then bad things, but if the tablet is powered off, and you're using a machine that can recognize ext2/3, then you just copy as usual. Both tablets have two mass storage devices (the N810's just happens to be soldered on), so use one SD as a permanent boot device, and the other for mass storage. -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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On Monday 20 October 2008 21:17:44 Ryan Abel wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: Say someone does boot from SD, what happens when they remove the SD card to copy data over to it; I've run into a bug that causes scp to die/hang when copying large (AVI) files over wireless. If you're booted from it, then bad things, but if the tablet is powered off, and you're using a machine that can recognize ext2/3, then you just copy as usual. Both tablets have two mass storage devices (the N810's just happens to be soldered on), so use one SD as a permanent boot device, and the other for mass storage. well, if we could get nokia to support it natively (watching the dance some had to do to get it all running again at the latest ssu) it would be a bit more interesting. but so far your best of waiting each time a ssu update shows up in app manager, until whoever do those alternate boot systems can get back up to speed. still, there is always that idea/plan for a community distro... the problem really is that neither the debian package system nor nokia supports any official system for offloading onto some other storage. until that time comes, there will be house of card like hacks lining up around the block... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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This is actually a problem on every linux handheld I have ever used. It is a problem on my GP2X. It was a problem on my old Asus PDA. It is a problem on my N770. It will be a problem on my Pandora when I get one. I wish someone had a great solution, but so far, nothing. There is, afaik, no safe consistent way to install software across multiple pieces of removable media in a way that is centrally manageable. That goes for any OS, on any platform. I can't even find a hypothetical description of such a system, should I want to try to implement it. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:33 PM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Monday 20 October 2008 21:17:44 Ryan Abel wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: Say someone does boot from SD, what happens when they remove the SD card to copy data over to it; I've run into a bug that causes scp to die/hang when copying large (AVI) files over wireless. If you're booted from it, then bad things, but if the tablet is powered off, and you're using a machine that can recognize ext2/3, then you just copy as usual. Both tablets have two mass storage devices (the N810's just happens to be soldered on), so use one SD as a permanent boot device, and the other for mass storage. well, if we could get nokia to support it natively (watching the dance some had to do to get it all running again at the latest ssu) it would be a bit more interesting. but so far your best of waiting each time a ssu update shows up in app manager, until whoever do those alternate boot systems can get back up to speed. still, there is always that idea/plan for a community distro... the problem really is that neither the debian package system nor nokia supports any official system for offloading onto some other storage. until that time comes, there will be house of card like hacks lining up around the block... ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:33 PM, kenneth marken wrote: well, if we could get nokia to support it natively (watching the dance some had to do to get it all running again at the latest ssu) it would be a bit more interesting. but so far your best of waiting each time a ssu update shows up in app manager, until whoever do those alternate boot systems can get back up to speed. Personally, I'm hoping the N900 ships with a NAND-free 256MB RAM PoP and moves the OS to a big eMMC (2-32GB). Problems solved. -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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True, i am a power user (when i want to) but normally im in the category that wants stuff that does just work Actually having linux installing apps on a separate memorycard is dead simple when you dont have to worry about windows stuff like registry or drive letters. Im not using my inernal memory card for anything atm. So installing Maemo on that would be an option. But as i said above, why doesnt it just work? (Out of the box that is) //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 21.51 skrev John Holmblad: Chris, you are thinking right, that is, like an end user. As was pointed out by Denis, Windows Mobile allows installing apps to an SD card so, surely an OS that is superior to WM should be able to do that, no sweat. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC Christer Eliasson wrote: Why havent Nokia made an option for installing on the internal memory card on the N810 ?? The Tablet is great in every respect but this tiny little bug makes me a bit cross Then we wouldnt have to worry about this or reflashing your precious ;) when the system update borkes your tablet because lack of diskspace to install it. Im no programmer but there shouldnt be problem really, or am i thinking wrong? ;) //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 17.57 skrev Sparr: I had a blog post about this before I took my site down... Look into the app localepurge, you'll have to use some coreutils-vs- busybox trickery to install it from a package. Will cut out 5+ MB of translation files. Also consider ditching some of the default themes (again requiring package trickery, or just deleting the files outright), the wallpapers are a couple of megs each iirc. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Laurent GUERBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm running short of space on / (10 MB free) on my diablo N810 so I have to uninstall some apps to be able to install new apps (which otherwise fail leaving the system in an unknown state, not good). Is there a way to remove useless stuff (like translation, temporary downloads, etc...)? To safely (approved by Nokia) tell the system to put some system stuff to /media/mmc1 instead of /? Thanks! Laurent ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users = ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:50 PM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: have a look at gobolinux ;) gobolinux is a neat idea, but it doesn't really address the problem here. the core of the issue is... what does/should happen when performing any package maintenance (install, remove, upgrade) when the card the package (or any of its dependencies) resides on is not currently installed. i want a package manager that can keep multiple copies of a library installed, on each card containing a program that needs it. and then, when i try to install a new program, it tells me which existing card is the best match (free space, already-installed dependencies, etc). ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: But as i said above, why doesnt it just work? (Out of the box that is) Because software features aren't free to implement and all software companies have finite resources and priorities? Nokia likely balanced the possible benefits against the costs of implementation and possible pitfalls (How do you explain to users why removing removable media now makes their system unbootable? Or how the card they used to mount on their Windows computer over USB no longer mounts? Or a variety of other issues. . . .) and came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth the time and effort (and suffering for their support staff) for their average user's use-case. Clear enough? -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Ahh true, didnt think of that to be honest. //Chris 20 okt 2008 kl. 22.58 skrev Ryan Abel: On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: But as i said above, why doesnt it just work? (Out of the box that is) Because software features aren't free to implement and all software companies have finite resources and priorities? Nokia likely balanced the possible benefits against the costs of implementation and possible pitfalls (How do you explain to users why removing removable media now makes their system unbootable? Or how the card they used to mount on their Windows computer over USB no longer mounts? Or a variety of other issues. . . .) and came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth the time and effort (and suffering for their support staff) for their average user's use-case. Clear enough? -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Ryan, Very good point, I guess what your really saying is: If your going to be a Power User then act like a Power User and hack your own tools, but provide your own support when it breaks. (Not meant to sound snotty) Thanks, Denis On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Christer Eliasson wrote: But as i said above, why doesnt it just work? (Out of the box that is) Because software features aren't free to implement and all software companies have finite resources and priorities? Nokia likely balanced the possible benefits against the costs of implementation and possible pitfalls (How do you explain to users why removing removable media now makes their system unbootable? Or how the card they used to mount on their Windows computer over USB no longer mounts? Or a variety of other issues. . . .) and came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth the time and effort (and suffering for their support staff) for their average user's use-case. Clear enough? -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- -- sik vis paw kem, para bellum -- oderint dum metuant -- Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race! -LT. GEN. LEWIS CHESTY PULLER, USMC ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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On Oct 20, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Denis Dimick wrote: Very good point, I guess what your really saying is: If your going to be a Power User then act like a Power User and hack your own tools, but provide your own support when it breaks. (Not meant to sound snotty) Wise words. ;) Either way, my suspicions say this is gonna get easier moving forward (Fremantle, N900, etc.), if features like this interest you, vote for them.[1] That said, there's a lot of room for the community to step up and make things better for itself. Personally, I'm pushing the Community distribution.[2] Which might help reduce the impact of SSU updates on community hacks (i.e., not annihilating bootmenu with every new update), and if somebody wanted to put together a GUI partition manager (sfdisk probably causes the most pain and suffering out of the whole procedure), and, perhaps, a cloning wizard, then things would be much simpler. [1]http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3745 [2]http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_Community_distribution -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
