Re: [Mageia-dev] Adding Java-Policy

2011-01-08 Thread Farfouille
Le 07/01/2011 10:55, Daniel Kreuter a écrit :
 As the actual policy is too old, who wants to write a new one describing the 
 open jdk instead of gcj ?
 My experience in packaging is not too good to do that on my own.
hi,
I will be very interested at least to try. I propose to work on it until sunday 
evening and come back here with my attempt.
 
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Re: [Mageia-dev] News of the front: first commits and mentoring start

2011-01-08 Thread Oliver Burger
Anne nicolas enna...@gmail.com schrieb am 2011-01-08
 In same time we will start mentoring on people who said to be
 already familiar with packaging so that they can join packagers
 team as soon as possible, mainly Blograke and mandrivausers.de
 packagers. Below are lists of mentors and trainees. Please have a
 look on it and ask for mentor to start process.
Wouldn't it be an idea to create a wiki page with some kind of table, 
listing the masters and their padawans?
Just as a way of not overrunning people like Anssi and Jerome who are 
at the top of the list and can mentor several people?

Oliver


Re: [Mageia-dev] News of the front: first commits and mentoring start

2011-01-08 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 08 januari 2011 11:02:29 schreef Oliver Burger:
 Anne nicolas enna...@gmail.com schrieb am 2011-01-08
 
  In same time we will start mentoring on people who said to be
  already familiar with packaging so that they can join packagers
  team as soon as possible, mainly Blograke and mandrivausers.de
  packagers. Below are lists of mentors and trainees. Please have a
  look on it and ask for mentor to start process.
 
 Wouldn't it be an idea to create a wiki page with some kind of table,
 listing the masters and their padawans?
 Just as a way of not overrunning people like Anssi and Jerome who are
 at the top of the list and can mentor several people?
 
 Oliver


I added a section on the packaging wiki with current mentoring; i would ask 
for mentors to put their students on that list

http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging


Re: [Mageia-dev] Adding Java-Policy

2011-01-08 Thread Renaud MICHEL
On samedi 08 janvier 2011 at 10:39, Farfouille wrote :
 I will be very interested at least to try. I propose to work on it until
 sunday evening and come back here with my attempt.

Thank you, I will review it (from a beginner POV) once you have something.

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 Anne nicolas enna...@gmail.com schrieb am 2011-01-08
 In same time we will start mentoring on people who said to be
 already familiar with packaging so that they can join packagers
 team as soon as possible, mainly Blograke and mandrivausers.de
 packagers. Below are lists of mentors and trainees. Please have a
 look on it and ask for mentor to start process.
 Wouldn't it be an idea to create a wiki page with some kind of table,
 listing the masters and their padawans?
 Just as a way of not overrunning people like Anssi and Jerome who are
 at the top of the list and can mentor several people?

 Oliver


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 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 11:18:24 +0100
 From: Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com
 To: mageia-dev@mageia.org
 Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] News of the front: first commits and
        mentoring       start
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 Op zaterdag 08 januari 2011 11:02:29 schreef Oliver Burger:
 Anne nicolas enna...@gmail.com schrieb am 2011-01-08

  In same time we will start mentoring on people who said to be
  already familiar with packaging so that they can join packagers
  team as soon as possible, mainly Blograke and mandrivausers.de
  packagers. Below are lists of mentors and trainees. Please have a
  look on it and ask for mentor to start process.

 Wouldn't it be an idea to create a wiki page with some kind of table,
 listing the masters and their padawans?
 Just as a way of not overrunning people like Anssi and Jerome who are
 at the top of the list and can mentor several people?

 Oliver


 I added a section on the packaging wiki with current mentoring; i would ask
 for mentors to put their students on that list

 http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging

and I was wondering how the mentors choose their students? any special
(personal I mean)conditions?

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[Mageia-dev] packages importing: what replaces rpm-mandriva-setup-build

2011-01-08 Thread Jerome Quelin
hi,

perl does:

BuildRequires: rpm-mandriva-setup-build = 1.8

what should it be translated to? rpm-mageia-setup-build?
or nothing at all, since we'll have the latest  greatest version? :-)

thanks,
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Re: [Mageia-dev] News of the front: first commits and mentoring start

2011-01-08 Thread César Vargas - VaC|0
2011/1/8 Tomàs Deltell Bonell tomasdelt...@gmx.es:
 On Sábado 08 Enero 2011 11:18:24 Maarten Vanraes escribió:
 Op zaterdag 08 januari 2011 11:02:29 schreef Oliver Burger:
  Anne nicolas enna...@gmail.com schrieb am 2011-01-08
 
   In same time we will start mentoring on people who said to be
   already familiar with packaging so that they can join packagers
   team as soon as possible, mainly Blograke and mandrivausers.de
   packagers. Below are lists of mentors and trainees. Please have a
   look on it and ask for mentor to start process.
 
  Wouldn't it be an idea to create a wiki page with some kind of table,
  listing the masters and their padawans?
  Just as a way of not overrunning people like Anssi and Jerome who are
  at the top of the list and can mentor several people?
 
  Oliver

 I added a section on the packaging wiki with current mentoring; i would ask
 for mentors to put their students on that list

 http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging

 I need a mentor. Preferably someone who can speak Spanish. My English is not
 too good.

 Best regards


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[Mageia-dev] Importing Perl policy

2011-01-08 Thread Remy CLOUARD
Hi there,

I just imported the perl packaging policy in the wiki, could someone
review it please ? It’s located there:
http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=perl_policy

The main changes are related to Mandriva - Mageia.

I’ve got a few questions about this.

1) Will the first release be Mageia 2010.1 ?
perl-devel unconditionaly for native packages, and only before Mageia
2010.1 for pure perl packages if using ExtUtils::MakeMaker 
Is this statement still valid today ? (in the original page, Mandrake
10.0 was mentioned, but I did not want to remove it unless I am 100%
sure this is not used anymore.

2) About the tools, will we have a CPANPLUS-Dist-Mga backend, or will we
reuse the CPANPLUS-Dist-Mdv ?

Thanks in advance,

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[Mageia-dev] Importing Licensing Policy

2011-01-08 Thread Remy CLOUARD
Hello,

I just started to import the Licensing policy from the Mandriva wiki.

Here are notable changes:

- replacing Mandriva with Mageia
- adapting the page to the Mageia mirror structure
- in the mandriva page (which is outdated on that point) there was a
  mention about a contact, which is Adam Williamson on the mandriva
  wiki. Who would be in charge of the points mentionned in the first
  paragraph of the licensing guidelines ? Shall we just keep the
  mageia-dev mailing list as a contact ?
- no mention of restricted repositories at the moment
- subsequently, no package eligible for the “Proprietary” license
- adding a complete list of license names (produced by rpmlint)

Thanks in advance for reviewing this policy

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Re: [Mageia-dev] packages importing: what replaces rpm-mandriva-setup-build

2011-01-08 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 08.01.2011 17:08, Jerome Quelin wrote:
 hi,
 
 perl does:
 
 BuildRequires: rpm-mandriva-setup-build = 1.8
 
 what should it be translated to? rpm-mageia-setup-build?
 or nothing at all, since we'll have the latest  greatest version? :-)

I'd say it could be made simply rpm-setup-build (i.e. merging both
rpm-mandriva-setup and rpm-manbo-setup to rpm-setup),
but I guess that really depends on how the rpm*setup maintainer/importer
handles it :)

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Re: [Mageia-dev] packages importing: what replaces rpm-mandriva-setup-build

2011-01-08 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/9 Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi:
 On 08.01.2011 17:08, Jerome Quelin wrote:
 hi,

 perl does:

     BuildRequires: rpm-mandriva-setup-build = 1.8

 what should it be translated to? rpm-mageia-setup-build?
 or nothing at all, since we'll have the latest  greatest version? :-)

 I'd say it could be made simply rpm-setup-build (i.e. merging both
Yupp, that would be a more uhm.. canonical/binary package compatible
approach, but of course, one would have to go through the huge task of
adding the provides for it to the package. ;)
 rpm-mandriva-setup and rpm-manbo-setup to rpm-setup),
Yes, the need for a separate rpm-manbo-setup package isn't really
there anymore..
 but I guess that really depends on how the rpm*setup maintainer/importer
 handles it :)
I personally haven't really cared too much about making any big
changes to these packages, a lot of their content is either derived
from rpm5 upstream or made their way into rpm5 upstream from them.
making a lot of it redundant (ie. I plan on start dropping what's
redundant once rpm 5.3.7 hits main/release in cooker). I plan on
reviewing all of it and merge/replace what's appropriate in a generic
way upstream, eventually phasing out these and other packages that
carries local macros, helper scripts etc. required for building rpm
packages in the distribution.
The goal of doing so is to try standardize functionality, practices,
policies etc. used for building packages upstream and clean up our
packaging to make it easier and less messy to maintain (ie. one
example is disttag  distepoch replacing our own %mkrel, and also
moved out of the individual spec files)..

I don't know much about your plans are for what direction to choose
for rpm (my bias is rather obvious, but refactorization  maintenance
is rathed rather high on my priority list, making me tout rpm5;), but
I don't mind try adapting if going in a different direction or putting
any decission on hold; if you're interested in sharing maintenance
efforts rather than forking these things completely and maintain on
your own, it's not very painful for me to make changes conditional
rather than dropping what's no longer in use..
For any new features implemented and adopted, you'll have to
cherry-pick and port yourself to stay compatible, I'm too comfortable
with not having to relate to two different APIs and codebases anymore
now (if interested, I could help assist you on writing something
equivalent for compatibility wrapping similar to what I did in the
past with rpm4compat.h  rpm46compat.h to make ie. URPM able to use
rpm 4.4  4.6 api with rpm5, let's say rpm5compat.h or something).

Whatever you end up doing, don't be afraid of asking or trying to
communicate on, the mutual benefits of collaboration are rather
obvious. ;o)
If not, sorry for imposing.

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