Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 2 March 2011 07:28, Yann Ciret mag...@zamiz.net wrote:
 I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to
 follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change
 with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a
 conversation.

Indeed. it's annoying for filtering


Re: [Mageia-dev] svnweb doesn't seem to show commit log edits

2011-03-02 Thread Michael Scherer

On Wed,  2 Mar 2011 02:21:12 +0100 (CET), Tux99 wrote:

Just a quick note to mention something I observed:

when editing a commit log entry with:

svn propedit --revprop -r r123456 svn:log
svn+ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/

(this command was given to me by Anssi and works fine)

the log entry on http://svnweb.mageia.org/ never shows the edits, it 
keeps

showing the original entry.

18 hours have no passed since I did the propedit so I have to assume 
that

this is not just a delayed sync (unless it's updated only once every
24h?).


No, there is just a cronjob that sync every 5 minutes :
/usr/bin/svnsync synchronize file://$name

It doesn't seem to have a way to resync changelog, according to the
help of the software.

The faq speak of using svnsync copy-revprops, 
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk/notes/svnsync.txt,
not sure if this is not a costly operation ( or one that will take more 
and more time with a growing repository :/ ).


--
Michael scherer


Re: [Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10

2011-03-02 Thread Michael Scherer

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:59:59 +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:

Hi

As xserver-1.10 has just been released, I offer to do the upgrade
like I did the
xserver-1.7 - xserver-1.9 upgrade in Mandriva :

- wait for most drivers to be compatible
- test xserver+basic drivers
- upload xserver-1.10 + rebuild drivers into core/testing
- wait for more test coverage
- fix issues
- wait for fglrx+nvidia to be ready for 1.10 (thx to Ubuntu, they
should support it fast enough)
- move packages from core/testing into core/release
  (expecting rpmctl or something equivalent to be available or
   spamming sysadmins)

WDYT?


What is the timeframe of this move ?
( and I would not wait for nvidia/fglrx personnally ).

I would also not put in core/testing, as i doubt people use this.
just upload to core/release directly, or say i upload and will put in 
release

after 1 week.

--
Michael scherer


[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

2011-03-02 Thread devzero2000
Hi to Mageia

I am part of rpm5 (but I follow rpm from more than 10 years) and
recently I did join Mageia, although I almost always used for work
other distros and OS (AIX, SVR4) that I also deal with Mandriva and
security (CEH) https: / /
www.redhat.com/wapps/training/certification/verify.html?certNumber=805007215126804verify=Verify


Apart from the rest - of which i will ask for sponsorship when it will
be - I wanted to know if there are plans to move to rpm5 by Mageia,
such as Mandriva has been doing lately. Rpm5 already has a builtbot
with Magela and rpm5. I can, if you can think useful or have plan for
this, lay the necessary modification to enter into rpm5 Mageia, with
the features of Mandriva cooker - fingerprint, syslog, etc. without
trademark ecc- and produce a first rpm rpm5 for mageia , which also
contains the functionality required by the passage to the RPM
ACID  feauture (berkeley db conversion)


is there interest? Then if someone wants to directly participate in
rpm5 I think that there should also be no problem.

Opinions ?

TIA

Regards


Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

2011-03-02 Thread Kira

在 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:21:14 +0800, devzero2000 devzero2...@rpm5.org寫道:


Hi to Mageia

Hello



Apart from the rest - of which i will ask for sponsorship when it will
be - I wanted to know if there are plans to move to rpm5 by Mageia,
such as Mandriva has been doing lately. Rpm5 already has a builtbot
with Magela and rpm5. I can, if you can think useful or have plan for
this, lay the necessary modification to enter into rpm5 Mageia, with
the features of Mandriva cooker - fingerprint, syslog, etc. without
trademark ecc- and produce a first rpm rpm5 for mageia , which also
contains the functionality required by the passage to the RPM
ACID  feauture (berkeley db conversion)



This issue had already been discussed at the beginning. For now,

Mageia won't move to RPM5, according to the decision made at that time.

We would move to RPM5 when everything is settled down, maybe 1 or 2

release after, to reconsider moving to RPM5.


Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

2011-03-02 Thread Anne nicolas
2011/3/2 devzero2000 devzero2...@rpm5.org:
 Hi to Mageia

Hi


 I am part of rpm5 (but I follow rpm from more than 10 years) and
 recently I did join Mageia, although I almost always used for work
 other distros and OS (AIX, SVR4) that I also deal with Mandriva and
 security (CEH) https: / /
 www.redhat.com/wapps/training/certification/verify.html?certNumber=805007215126804verify=Verify


 Apart from the rest - of which i will ask for sponsorship when it will
 be - I wanted to know if there are plans to move to rpm5 by Mageia,
 such as Mandriva has been doing lately. Rpm5 already has a builtbot
 with Magela and rpm5. I can, if you can think useful or have plan for
 this, lay the necessary modification to enter into rpm5 Mageia, with
 the features of Mandriva cooker - fingerprint, syslog, etc. without
 trademark ecc- and produce a first rpm rpm5 for mageia , which also
 contains the functionality required by the passage to the RPM
 ACID  feauture (berkeley db conversion)


 is there interest? Then if someone wants to directly participate in
 rpm5 I think that there should also be no problem.

Well we have always interest in open source projects. BTW Mageia
packagers team is for now quite small and focused in building first
stable version which means importing and working on needed packages to
be imported.

We are already lacking mentors among official packagers.

So I guess rpm5 is not for now a priority given the size of pending
todo list. Also If we do have a look on it, we will for better have a
team on it rather than one guy to avoid single point of failure.

Cheers



 Opinions ?

 TIA

 Regards




-- 
Anne
http://www.mageia.org


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread andre999

Ahmad Samir a écrit :


On 1 March 2011 22:46, Frank Griffinf...@roadrunner.com  wrote:

Ahmad Samir wrote:

This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
find this useful (or not).


I don't use it for filtering, but I don't find it objectionable either.



(Just so I am completely honest, I'd like it removed, hence my asking
how many people this feature is useful for).


Fine by me, even though I kind of like it.  It really doesn't add 
anything that you can't see by the threads.


For those who use the title for filtering, filtering by thread works 
better, as the title is often changed as the bug is refined.


--
André


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 2 March 2011 12:01, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2 March 2011 07:28, Yann Ciret mag...@zamiz.net wrote:
 I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to
 follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change
 with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a
 conversation.

 Indeed. it's annoying for filtering


Actually, no, thunderbird doesn't break the thread of a bug due to
this issue, as it doesn't use just the subject to group emails.

(I don't use it extensively but I did test some email clients, mainly
to ease my job in the triage team in Mandriva, and now in Mageia, but
since I mostly use the bug report web page in bugzilla, using gmail
(web mail) in firefox is the best solution so far, even though the bug
mail threads get broken all the time).

Up till now, stormi and boklm (the latter wants to bring back adding
the Resolved to the subject of closed bugs :)), find this useful,
along with others who think it's nice to have it. I can't ask for
the removal of this feature just to suit my usage.

(Now, if I'd asked dmorgan to just remove the New: keyword from new
bug reports email Subject when we started using bugzilla, without
asking, no one would have noticed; yeah, democracy is bad sometimes
:)).

-- 
Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

2011-03-02 Thread Raphaël Jadot
2011/3/2 devzero2000 devzero2...@rpm5.org:
 Hi to Mageia

Hi :)



 is there interest? Then if someone wants to directly participate in
 rpm5 I think that there should also be no problem.

 Opinions ?

 TIA

I have no opinion about rpm5 vs rmp.org as i don't really know the
differences, but as it may help you, i looked for old discussions
about it. I did not find a complete topic about rpm5 vs rpm, but some
topic that also talked about it.

jan 9 discussion about compatibility between mdv and mga
https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110109/002024.html

jan 18 Compatibility: %mdkversion macro
https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110118/002215.html

feb 11 triggers in rpm5 and rpm.org
https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110211/002535.html

There are sometimes some discussions that are more or less in relation
with mandriva's rpm5 migration, including policies, triggers, rubygem
etc.

Maybe it can help :)

Raphaël


Re: [Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?

2011-03-02 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 19:39, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 I previously registered with the Mageia identity server, but when I try
 to log in, I get incorrect user name or password .  I went through the
 Reset Password process, and the server must know me because it included
 my name.  I entered the same password I had set previously, and it
 seemed to accept it and then put up a login prompt, but when I entered
 my email and the password I had just set, I got the same error.

 Known problem ?

 - did the password reset process go smoothly?
 - did you try alternatively with your login, instead of your email?

(wondering, only)

Romain


Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA

2011-03-02 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:56 PM, devzero2000 devzero2...@rpm5.org wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Anne nicolas enna...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/3/2 devzero2000 devzero2...@rpm5.org:
 Well we have always interest in open source projects. BTW Mageia
 packagers team is for now quite small and focused in building first
 stable version which means importing and working on needed packages to
 be imported.

 We are already lacking mentors among official packagers.
 He, i could be a good mentor

 So I guess rpm5 is not for now a priority given the size of pending
 todo list. Also If we do have a look on it, we will for better have a
 team on it rather than one guy to avoid single point of failure.
 Thanks Ann . It seemed that i have also offered my cooperation to
 mageia, rpm5 or not, but I was told, by someother, to participate in
 Mandriva.
   ^^
if you want to work on rpm 5 ;)
If you want simply help mageia in other ways of course you are welcome :)


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread nicolas vigier
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote:

 On 2 March 2011 12:01, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 2 March 2011 07:28, Yann Ciret mag...@zamiz.net wrote:
  I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to
  follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change
  with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a
  conversation.
 
  Indeed. it's annoying for filtering
 
 
 Actually, no, thunderbird doesn't break the thread of a bug due to
 this issue, as it doesn't use just the subject to group emails.

Mail clients usually use In-Reply-To: or References: headers to
thread mails. But it seems gmail is also using subjects for this.

However according to this, text inside square brackets is ignored :
http://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-change-or-add-words-to-the-subject-of-a-Gmail-email-and-keep-it-in-the-same-thread

So if we add '[New]' instead of 'New:' in the subject, maybe this would fix
the problem with gmail ?



Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread Vinet Raphaël
Le mardi 1 mars 2011 19:52:18 Ahmad Samir, vous avez écrit :
 At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
 New: to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
 emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
 added... etc).
 
 This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
 find this useful (or not).
Hello,

I use it but it is not an absolute necessity ;-)

-- 
C'est parce que la vitesse de la lumière est supérieure à celle du son, que 
certains ont l'air brillant avant d'avoir l'air con.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?

2011-03-02 Thread Frank Griffin
Romain d'Alverny wrote:

  - did the password reset process go smoothly?
   
AFAICS
  - did you try alternatively with your login, instead of your email?
   

That did it, using just ftg rather than the full email address.  The
confusion stems from the fact that bugzilla, which keeps you logged in
via a cookie, displays Log out f...@roadrunner.com, implying that the
full address is the username (as in fact it was in MDV registrations).

Thanks for the help !


Re: [Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?

2011-03-02 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 18:44, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 Romain d'Alverny wrote:
  - did you try alternatively with your login, instead of your email?


 That did it, using just ftg rather than the full email address.  The
 confusion stems from the fact that bugzilla, which keeps you logged in
 via a cookie, displays Log out f...@roadrunner.com, implying that the
 full address is the username (as in fact it was in MDV registrations).

Ok, so that's a matter of consistency, allowing to log in with both
login and email. Thanks for noticing it
(https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252 ).

Romain


[Mageia-dev] Installs

2011-03-02 Thread Frank Griffin
After some back-and-forth in MDV bug
https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62374 , it comes out that MDV no
longer intends to support boot.iso or isolinux installs, except as a
low-priority item.  So I just thought I'd ask here whether we intend to
continue to support this type of install.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Installs

2011-03-02 Thread Hoyt Duff
They dropped older app due in part to  ... it is in perl ...

Did all the perl-focused devs leave Mandriva? Aren't most of the
Mandriva-unique tools in perl?

On 3/2/11, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 After some back-and-forth in MDV bug
 https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62374 , it comes out that MDV no
 longer intends to support boot.iso or isolinux installs, except as a
 low-priority item.  So I just thought I'd ask here whether we intend to
 continue to support this type of install.



-- 
Hoyt


Re: [Mageia-dev] Installs

2011-03-02 Thread tmb
ons 2011-03-02 klockan 23:27 +0200 skrev Frank Griffin:
 After some back-and-forth in MDV bug
 https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62374 , it comes out that MDV no
 longer intends to support boot.iso or isolinux installs, except as a
 low-priority item.  So I just thought I'd ask here whether we intend to
 continue to support this type of install.

Yes.

--
Thomas




Re: [Mageia-dev] Installs

2011-03-02 Thread Frank Griffin
Olivier Blin wrote:

 It is planned to keep supporting DrakX installer + drakxtools in Mageia,
 as you can see in alpha1

   
That's good to hear.  I always thought the MDV install with all its
options was one of the best parts.  I realize that we had only an ISO,
and while I test-installed that, I didn't bother with the MDV TP, so I
wasn't sure if there was a difference in the underlying technology.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line

2011-03-02 Thread Remco Rijnders

On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 08:52:18PM +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote:

At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string
New: to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent
emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were
added... etc).

This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there
find this useful (or not).


I don't particulary mind either way.

Remmy


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