Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line
On 2 March 2011 07:28, Yann Ciret mag...@zamiz.net wrote: I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a conversation. Indeed. it's annoying for filtering
Re: [Mageia-dev] svnweb doesn't seem to show commit log edits
On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 02:21:12 +0100 (CET), Tux99 wrote: Just a quick note to mention something I observed: when editing a commit log entry with: svn propedit --revprop -r r123456 svn:log svn+ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/ (this command was given to me by Anssi and works fine) the log entry on http://svnweb.mageia.org/ never shows the edits, it keeps showing the original entry. 18 hours have no passed since I did the propedit so I have to assume that this is not just a delayed sync (unless it's updated only once every 24h?). No, there is just a cronjob that sync every 5 minutes : /usr/bin/svnsync synchronize file://$name It doesn't seem to have a way to resync changelog, according to the help of the software. The faq speak of using svnsync copy-revprops, http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk/notes/svnsync.txt, not sure if this is not a costly operation ( or one that will take more and more time with a growing repository :/ ). -- Michael scherer
Re: [Mageia-dev] xserver-1.10
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:59:59 +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Hi As xserver-1.10 has just been released, I offer to do the upgrade like I did the xserver-1.7 - xserver-1.9 upgrade in Mandriva : - wait for most drivers to be compatible - test xserver+basic drivers - upload xserver-1.10 + rebuild drivers into core/testing - wait for more test coverage - fix issues - wait for fglrx+nvidia to be ready for 1.10 (thx to Ubuntu, they should support it fast enough) - move packages from core/testing into core/release (expecting rpmctl or something equivalent to be available or spamming sysadmins) WDYT? What is the timeframe of this move ? ( and I would not wait for nvidia/fglrx personnally ). I would also not put in core/testing, as i doubt people use this. just upload to core/release directly, or say i upload and will put in release after 1 week. -- Michael scherer
[Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA
Hi to Mageia I am part of rpm5 (but I follow rpm from more than 10 years) and recently I did join Mageia, although I almost always used for work other distros and OS (AIX, SVR4) that I also deal with Mandriva and security (CEH) https: / / www.redhat.com/wapps/training/certification/verify.html?certNumber=805007215126804verify=Verify Apart from the rest - of which i will ask for sponsorship when it will be - I wanted to know if there are plans to move to rpm5 by Mageia, such as Mandriva has been doing lately. Rpm5 already has a builtbot with Magela and rpm5. I can, if you can think useful or have plan for this, lay the necessary modification to enter into rpm5 Mageia, with the features of Mandriva cooker - fingerprint, syslog, etc. without trademark ecc- and produce a first rpm rpm5 for mageia , which also contains the functionality required by the passage to the RPM ACID feauture (berkeley db conversion) is there interest? Then if someone wants to directly participate in rpm5 I think that there should also be no problem. Opinions ? TIA Regards
Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA
在 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:21:14 +0800, devzero2000 devzero2...@rpm5.org寫道: Hi to Mageia Hello Apart from the rest - of which i will ask for sponsorship when it will be - I wanted to know if there are plans to move to rpm5 by Mageia, such as Mandriva has been doing lately. Rpm5 already has a builtbot with Magela and rpm5. I can, if you can think useful or have plan for this, lay the necessary modification to enter into rpm5 Mageia, with the features of Mandriva cooker - fingerprint, syslog, etc. without trademark ecc- and produce a first rpm rpm5 for mageia , which also contains the functionality required by the passage to the RPM ACID feauture (berkeley db conversion) This issue had already been discussed at the beginning. For now, Mageia won't move to RPM5, according to the decision made at that time. We would move to RPM5 when everything is settled down, maybe 1 or 2 release after, to reconsider moving to RPM5.
Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA
2011/3/2 devzero2000 devzero2...@rpm5.org: Hi to Mageia Hi I am part of rpm5 (but I follow rpm from more than 10 years) and recently I did join Mageia, although I almost always used for work other distros and OS (AIX, SVR4) that I also deal with Mandriva and security (CEH) https: / / www.redhat.com/wapps/training/certification/verify.html?certNumber=805007215126804verify=Verify Apart from the rest - of which i will ask for sponsorship when it will be - I wanted to know if there are plans to move to rpm5 by Mageia, such as Mandriva has been doing lately. Rpm5 already has a builtbot with Magela and rpm5. I can, if you can think useful or have plan for this, lay the necessary modification to enter into rpm5 Mageia, with the features of Mandriva cooker - fingerprint, syslog, etc. without trademark ecc- and produce a first rpm rpm5 for mageia , which also contains the functionality required by the passage to the RPM ACID feauture (berkeley db conversion) is there interest? Then if someone wants to directly participate in rpm5 I think that there should also be no problem. Well we have always interest in open source projects. BTW Mageia packagers team is for now quite small and focused in building first stable version which means importing and working on needed packages to be imported. We are already lacking mentors among official packagers. So I guess rpm5 is not for now a priority given the size of pending todo list. Also If we do have a look on it, we will for better have a team on it rather than one guy to avoid single point of failure. Cheers Opinions ? TIA Regards -- Anne http://www.mageia.org
Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line
Ahmad Samir a écrit : On 1 March 2011 22:46, Frank Griffinf...@roadrunner.com wrote: Ahmad Samir wrote: This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there find this useful (or not). I don't use it for filtering, but I don't find it objectionable either. (Just so I am completely honest, I'd like it removed, hence my asking how many people this feature is useful for). Fine by me, even though I kind of like it. It really doesn't add anything that you can't see by the threads. For those who use the title for filtering, filtering by thread works better, as the title is often changed as the bug is refined. -- André
Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line
On 2 March 2011 12:01, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 March 2011 07:28, Yann Ciret mag...@zamiz.net wrote: I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a conversation. Indeed. it's annoying for filtering Actually, no, thunderbird doesn't break the thread of a bug due to this issue, as it doesn't use just the subject to group emails. (I don't use it extensively but I did test some email clients, mainly to ease my job in the triage team in Mandriva, and now in Mageia, but since I mostly use the bug report web page in bugzilla, using gmail (web mail) in firefox is the best solution so far, even though the bug mail threads get broken all the time). Up till now, stormi and boklm (the latter wants to bring back adding the Resolved to the subject of closed bugs :)), find this useful, along with others who think it's nice to have it. I can't ask for the removal of this feature just to suit my usage. (Now, if I'd asked dmorgan to just remove the New: keyword from new bug reports email Subject when we started using bugzilla, without asking, no one would have noticed; yeah, democracy is bad sometimes :)). -- Ahmad Samir
Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA
2011/3/2 devzero2000 devzero2...@rpm5.org: Hi to Mageia Hi :) is there interest? Then if someone wants to directly participate in rpm5 I think that there should also be no problem. Opinions ? TIA I have no opinion about rpm5 vs rmp.org as i don't really know the differences, but as it may help you, i looked for old discussions about it. I did not find a complete topic about rpm5 vs rpm, but some topic that also talked about it. jan 9 discussion about compatibility between mdv and mga https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110109/002024.html jan 18 Compatibility: %mdkversion macro https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110118/002215.html feb 11 triggers in rpm5 and rpm.org https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/20110211/002535.html There are sometimes some discussions that are more or less in relation with mandriva's rpm5 migration, including policies, triggers, rubygem etc. Maybe it can help :) Raphaël
Re: [Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 19:39, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: I previously registered with the Mageia identity server, but when I try to log in, I get incorrect user name or password . I went through the Reset Password process, and the server must know me because it included my name. I entered the same password I had set previously, and it seemed to accept it and then put up a login prompt, but when I entered my email and the password I had just set, I got the same error. Known problem ? - did the password reset process go smoothly? - did you try alternatively with your login, instead of your email? (wondering, only) Romain
Re: [Mageia-dev] RPM5 AND MAGEIA
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:56 PM, devzero2000 devzero2...@rpm5.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Anne nicolas enna...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/2 devzero2000 devzero2...@rpm5.org: Well we have always interest in open source projects. BTW Mageia packagers team is for now quite small and focused in building first stable version which means importing and working on needed packages to be imported. We are already lacking mentors among official packagers. He, i could be a good mentor So I guess rpm5 is not for now a priority given the size of pending todo list. Also If we do have a look on it, we will for better have a team on it rather than one guy to avoid single point of failure. Thanks Ann . It seemed that i have also offered my cooperation to mageia, rpm5 or not, but I was told, by someother, to participate in Mandriva. ^^ if you want to work on rpm 5 ;) If you want simply help mageia in other ways of course you are welcome :)
Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 2 March 2011 12:01, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 March 2011 07:28, Yann Ciret mag...@zamiz.net wrote: I prefer the actual system with always same subject. It's easier to follow the subject in mail client software. If the subject will change with bug life, I am not sure Thunderbird can group all messages as a conversation. Indeed. it's annoying for filtering Actually, no, thunderbird doesn't break the thread of a bug due to this issue, as it doesn't use just the subject to group emails. Mail clients usually use In-Reply-To: or References: headers to thread mails. But it seems gmail is also using subjects for this. However according to this, text inside square brackets is ignored : http://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-change-or-add-words-to-the-subject-of-a-Gmail-email-and-keep-it-in-the-same-thread So if we add '[New]' instead of 'New:' in the subject, maybe this would fix the problem with gmail ?
Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line
Le mardi 1 mars 2011 19:52:18 Ahmad Samir, vous avez écrit : At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string New: to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were added... etc). This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there find this useful (or not). Hello, I use it but it is not an absolute necessity ;-) -- C'est parce que la vitesse de la lumière est supérieure à celle du son, que certains ont l'air brillant avant d'avoir l'air con.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?
Romain d'Alverny wrote: - did the password reset process go smoothly? AFAICS - did you try alternatively with your login, instead of your email? That did it, using just ftg rather than the full email address. The confusion stems from the fact that bugzilla, which keeps you logged in via a cookie, displays Log out f...@roadrunner.com, implying that the full address is the username (as in fact it was in MDV registrations). Thanks for the help !
Re: [Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 18:44, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: Romain d'Alverny wrote: - did you try alternatively with your login, instead of your email? That did it, using just ftg rather than the full email address. The confusion stems from the fact that bugzilla, which keeps you logged in via a cookie, displays Log out f...@roadrunner.com, implying that the full address is the username (as in fact it was in MDV registrations). Ok, so that's a matter of consistency, allowing to log in with both login and email. Thanks for noticing it (https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252 ). Romain
[Mageia-dev] Installs
After some back-and-forth in MDV bug https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62374 , it comes out that MDV no longer intends to support boot.iso or isolinux installs, except as a low-priority item. So I just thought I'd ask here whether we intend to continue to support this type of install.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Installs
They dropped older app due in part to ... it is in perl ... Did all the perl-focused devs leave Mandriva? Aren't most of the Mandriva-unique tools in perl? On 3/2/11, Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com wrote: After some back-and-forth in MDV bug https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62374 , it comes out that MDV no longer intends to support boot.iso or isolinux installs, except as a low-priority item. So I just thought I'd ask here whether we intend to continue to support this type of install. -- Hoyt
Re: [Mageia-dev] Installs
ons 2011-03-02 klockan 23:27 +0200 skrev Frank Griffin: After some back-and-forth in MDV bug https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62374 , it comes out that MDV no longer intends to support boot.iso or isolinux installs, except as a low-priority item. So I just thought I'd ask here whether we intend to continue to support this type of install. Yes. -- Thomas
Re: [Mageia-dev] Installs
Olivier Blin wrote: It is planned to keep supporting DrakX installer + drakxtools in Mageia, as you can see in alpha1 That's good to hear. I always thought the MDV install with all its options was one of the best parts. I realize that we had only an ISO, and while I test-installed that, I didn't bother with the MDV TP, so I wasn't sure if there was a difference in the underlying technology.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Bugs mailing list, new bugs Subject line
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 08:52:18PM +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote: At the moment when a new bug report is filed bugzilla adds the string New: to the subject line of the email, this is removed in subsequent emails (once the bug is not new any more, i.e. more comments were added... etc). This is a sort of an unofficial poll about how many people out there find this useful (or not). I don't particulary mind either way. Remmy signature.asc Description: Digital signature