Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent

2011-03-06 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zondag 06 maart 2011 03:52:09 schreef Ahmad Samir:
 On 6 March 2011 04:45, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:
  Op zondag 06 maart 2011 03:24:46 schreef Hoyt Duff:
  I've always set mine to false.
  
  When they open adjacent to the current tab (true) that always seems
  like reverse order when reading a book. For example, click on the
  links in a page that are page1, page2, page3 and so on in order. With
  'true', the tabs show the pages in reverse order.
  
  i prefer false as well, for the exact same reason.
 
 Again, it's not about personal preferences; you know how to change it,
 but not every average Joe out there knows that about:config exists
 to begin with.

that is true, however, perhaps average Joe wants it false as well. They will 
be used to it from Mandriva anyway.



Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent

2011-03-06 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le dimanche 6 mars 2011 02:50:02, Ahmad Samir a écrit :
 ATM Firefox is shipped with:
 user_pref(browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent, false);
 
 upstream ships this pref set to 'true'. From
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries:
 This preference controls where new tabs will be located.
 True (default): Open new tabs to the right of the parent tab.
 False: Restores pre Firefox 3.6 behavior where new tabs are opened at
 the far right of the tabs bar.
 
 
 IMHO, we should ship the upstream default (they do spend sometime on
 usability... etc).
 
 (On a personal note I've had this set to true since it was implemented
 and I find it quite useful).
 
 WDYT?
 
 If no one objects I'll apply the changes in 1-2 days.

I agree with you. Whatever personal preferences, we should ship the upstream 
default for that.

Best regards

Samuel


Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10

2011-03-06 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 5 March 2011 22:24, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
 x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.20110303.3.mga1

 hits the mirrors...

 --
 Thomas




 x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.20110303.3.mga1 works (in the brief
 test I did).

ati, nouveau  nivdia are OK then
We need testers for intel then.
I'll try to resurect an old box for testing SIS support.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-06 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 04 maart 2011 09:05:02 schreef Buchan Milne:
 On Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:43:25 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
  I think we need to have a name and email address. however, some options:
  
  
  A. possibly cn could be editable in identity
 
 Please stop referring to possibilities that exist as if they don't ... it
 is depressing that people keep assuming things don't work, when one has
 put effort into making them work ...
 
 (IOW, if users should *not* be able to edit cn, then there is one
 configuration entry to edit)
 
  == this will allow people to fill in what they want, be it full name,
  nickname, or full name AND nickname
  
  cn could then be used as the name field
 
 That is the current situation, at least in bugzilla, and should be in
 forum.

i'm just stating here for the record

i modified my cn in identity, and i noticed attachements used my full name 
(gn+sn and not cn), even new attachments?



Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10

2011-03-06 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Thierry Vignaud
thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 5 March 2011 22:24, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
 x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.20110303.3.mga1

 hits the mirrors...

 --
 Thomas




 x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.20110303.3.mga1 works (in the brief
 test I did).

 ati, nouveau  nivdia are OK then
 We need testers for intel then.
 I'll try to resurect an old box for testing SIS support.


i have an intel i will update today


Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10

2011-03-06 Thread Thomas Backlund
sön 2011-03-06 klockan 12:47 +0200 skrev Jérôme (saispo) Soyer:
 Hi,
 
 I have error for me with the VirtualBox drivers.
 
 Maybe a recompilation is needed for the rpm but with the original
 VirtualBox Guest Additions i have an ABI error.
 


What VirtualBox version ?

Only 4.0.4 supports xorg 1.10

--
Thomas




Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10

2011-03-06 Thread saispo
It's 4.0.4.

The DKMS module in Mageia is not rebuilt againt xorg 1.1.0 ?

On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Thomas Backlund t...@iki.fi wrote:
 sön 2011-03-06 klockan 12:47 +0200 skrev Jérôme (saispo) Soyer:
 Hi,

 I have error for me with the VirtualBox drivers.

 Maybe a recompilation is needed for the rpm but with the original
 VirtualBox Guest Additions i have an ABI error.



 What VirtualBox version ?

 Only 4.0.4 supports xorg 1.10

 --
 Thomas





Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10

2011-03-06 Thread Oliver Burger
Dexter Morgan dmorga...@gmail.com schrieb am 06.03.2011
  ati, nouveau  nivdia are OK then
  We need testers for intel then.
  I'll try to resurect an old box for testing SIS support.
 
 i have an intel i will update today
Just updatet to 1.10 on my netbook (Intel 945GME) and it's working 
just fine.

Oliver


Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?

2011-03-06 Thread nicolas vigier
On Sat, 05 Mar 2011, Thomas Spuhler wrote:

 
 I changed my mind.
 mageiaMaintainer: f...@mageia.org should be mageiaMaintainer: foo at 
 mageia.org
 The reason is spammers now use the f...@mageia.org account. I got a spam 
 essage 

I'm not sure it will stop spam. I think most spammers know how to use
regexps, so they can easily translate foo at mageia.org to f...@mageia.org.



Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content

2011-03-06 Thread Anne nicolas
Hi back

Here is last list for 32 bits iso:
http://pastebin.com/ewtrB6v6

Comments welcome

-- 
Anne
http://www.mageia.org


Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10

2011-03-06 Thread Ahmad Samir
2011/3/6 Jérôme (saispo) Soyer sai...@gmail.com:
 It's 4.0.4.

 The DKMS module in Mageia is not rebuilt againt xorg 1.1.0 ?

 On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Thomas Backlund t...@iki.fi wrote:
 sön 2011-03-06 klockan 12:47 +0200 skrev Jérôme (saispo) Soyer:
 Hi,

 I have error for me with the VirtualBox drivers.

 Maybe a recompilation is needed for the rpm but with the original
 VirtualBox Guest Additions i have an ABI error.



 What VirtualBox version ?

 Only 4.0.4 supports xorg 1.10

 --
 Thomas





Yes, vbox will need a rebuild, only 1.9 video drivers are compiled for
the additions, I'll take care of that today by pushing vbox packages
to core/testing.

-- 
Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10

2011-03-06 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 6 March 2011 18:01, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/3/6 Jérôme (saispo) Soyer sai...@gmail.com:
 It's 4.0.4.

 The DKMS module in Mageia is not rebuilt againt xorg 1.1.0 ?

 On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Thomas Backlund t...@iki.fi wrote:
 sön 2011-03-06 klockan 12:47 +0200 skrev Jérôme (saispo) Soyer:
 Hi,

 I have error for me with the VirtualBox drivers.

 Maybe a recompilation is needed for the rpm but with the original
 VirtualBox Guest Additions i have an ABI error.



 What VirtualBox version ?

 Only 4.0.4 supports xorg 1.10

 --
 Thomas





 Yes, vbox will need a rebuild, only 1.9 video drivers are compiled for
 the additions, I'll take care of that today by pushing vbox packages
 to core/testing.

 --
 Ahmad Samir


Rebuilt vbox is in core/testing now.

-- 
Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent

2011-03-06 Thread Hoyt Duff
On 3/6/11, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote:


  So let's use upstream behavior, as this is what is documented
  everywhere
  ( from official documentation to random tutorial of people ),

I can't disagree with your logic on this aspect and I support being in
sync with upstream. Why should Mageia be any different than the
vanilla experience in this regard? It's not like it can't easily be
changed by the end user.

  and that's where
  upstream has devoted some times.


I would disagree with that. Not every decision any upstream makes is
well-researched and documented. Sometimes it's just a devs preference
or a political/marketing decision.

-- 
Hoyt


Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent

2011-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 06/03/11 02:50 did gyre and gimble:
 On 6 March 2011 04:24, Hoyt Duff hoytd...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've always set mine to false.

 When they open adjacent to the current tab (true) that always seems
 like reverse order when reading a book. For example, click on the
 links in a page that are page1, page2, page3 and so on in order. With
 'true', the tabs show the pages in reverse order.

 --
 Hoyt

 
 When you have more tabs than the width of the screen, i.e. some tabs
 are hidden and you have to click the right/left arrow on the tab bar
 to see all the tabs, that's where this option is very effective.
 
 And on the internet you're not reading a book; for example I have 20+
 tabs of bug report open, when I middle click a link from any report (a
 link to another bug, an upstream bug, a mailing list discussion), it
 opens next to it, not at the end of the stack.
 
 The point here is not just the personal preference of each user, we're
 not hardcoding the pref, the user can flip it any time he wants to do
 so; but the fact that this is an upstream feature that was turned off
 because the guy who submitted firefox in mdv at the time this pref was
 shipped by upstream didn't like it; the point is others may like it
 / find it useful.
 
 IMHO, that upstream default should be shipped as it.


I find myself in the same scenario quite regularly too (20+ tabs) and
find having the new tab at least quite close to the current one a
massive usability improvement.

It's also interesting to see the reverse order argument mentioned
previously doesn't always apply. There are some heuristics in there as
to whether it should be opened immediately to the right of the current
tab or after the other tabs that have been opened recently.

Col


-- 

Colin Guthrie
mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
http://colin.guthr.ie/

Day Job:
  Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/]
Open Source:
  Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/]
  PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/]
  Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]


Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10

2011-03-06 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 06/03/11 10:24 did gyre and gimble:
 On 5 March 2011 22:24, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
 x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.20110303.3.mga1

 hits the mirrors...

 --
 Thomas




 x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.20110303.3.mga1 works (in the brief
 test I did).
 
 ati, nouveau  nivdia are OK then
 We need testers for intel then.
 I'll try to resurect an old box for testing SIS support.

Running fine so far on my (now slightly ageing) Intel i945GM

Col


-- 

Colin Guthrie
mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
http://colin.guthr.ie/

Day Job:
  Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/]
Open Source:
  Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/]
  PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/]
  Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]


Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent

2011-03-06 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 6 March 2011 21:11, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote:
 I find myself in the same scenario quite regularly too (20+ tabs) and
 find having the new tab at least quite close to the current one a
 massive usability improvement.

Indeed.
The reverse is annoying.

 It's also interesting to see the reverse order argument mentioned
 previously doesn't always apply. There are some heuristics in there as
 to whether it should be opened immediately to the right of the current
 tab or after the other tabs that have been opened recently.


Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10

2011-03-06 Thread Oliver Burger
Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com schrieb am 06.03.2011
 To a less extent, it would be nice if someone could test vmmouse 
 vmware under vmware.
I have a vmware esxi server at work. I can try an installation 
tomorrow and see if it works...

Oliver


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release speedtouch-firmware-extractor-0.1-7.mga1

2011-03-06 Thread Renaud MICHEL
On dimanche 06 mars 2011 at 21:58, Thierry Vignaud wrote :
 On 6 March 2011 21:27, Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote:
  ennael ennael 0.1-7.mga1:
  + Revision: 65624
  - imported package speedtouch-firmware-extractor
 
 Honestly, are there still raie manta users somewhere in the world?

Yes, I just met one this morning who asked me if it would be supported by 
the newest mandriva.

-- 
Renaud Michel


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release speedtouch-firmware-extractor-0.1-7.mga1

2011-03-06 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 06.03.2011 22:58, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
 On 6 March 2011 21:27, Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote:
 ennael ennael 0.1-7.mga1:
 + Revision: 65624
 - imported package speedtouch-firmware-extractor
 
 Honestly, are there still raie manta users somewhere in the world?

Offtopic, but how can one subscribe to changelog@ ?

I wasn't aware we had one, and I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the
website...

Do we happen to have one from commits as well? It is something I've been
waiting for for quite some time now...

-- 
Anssi Hannula


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release speedtouch-firmware-extractor-0.1-7.mga1

2011-03-06 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 4:02 AM, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote:
 On 06.03.2011 22:58, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
 On 6 March 2011 21:27, Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote:
 ennael ennael 0.1-7.mga1:
 + Revision: 65624
 - imported package speedtouch-firmware-extractor

 Honestly, are there still raie manta users somewhere in the world?

 Offtopic, but how can one subscribe to changelog@ ?

 I wasn't aware we had one, and I don't see it mentioned anywhere in the
 website...

 Do we happen to have one from commits as well? It is something I've been
 waiting for for quite some time now...

just go on  http://ml.mageia.org/  and click to subscribe to the ML
you are interested in


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release speedtouch-firmware-extractor-0.1-7.mga1

2011-03-06 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 6 March 2011 22:56, Anne nicolas enna...@gmail.com wrote:
 ennael ennael 0.1-7.mga1:
 + Revision: 65624
 - imported package speedtouch-firmware-extractor

 Honestly, are there still raie manta users somewhere in the world?


 Honestly yes. Was asked by some users

Wow!


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release speedtouch-firmware-extractor-0.1-7.mga1

2011-03-06 Thread Michael Scherer

On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 05:02:53 +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:

On 06.03.2011 22:58, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
On 6 March 2011 21:27, Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org 
wrote:

ennael ennael 0.1-7.mga1:
+ Revision: 65624
- imported package speedtouch-firmware-extractor


Honestly, are there still raie manta users somewhere in the world?


Offtopic, but how can one subscribe to changelog@ ?

I wasn't aware we had one, and I don't see it mentioned anywhere in 
the

website...

Do we happen to have one from commits as well? It is something I've 
been

waiting for for quite some time now...


Indeed, we forgot to announce it :/

I did create the ml, just waited to see if it worked, and forgot 
everything

after this part.

--
Michael Scherer


[Mageia-dev] [ANN] New ml changelog@

2011-03-06 Thread Michael Scherer

Hi,

like at Mandriva and since it was asked by people, a new list was 
created

for changelog.

To subscribe, just do like bugs@, etc, etc.

- Create a account on identity.mageia.org ( if you do not have one )
- Go on https://ml.mageia.org/ , login with either your login or your 
email
- Go on https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/changelog , 
click on subscribe

- Enjoy

--
Michael Scherer


Re: [Mageia-dev] [ANN] New ml changelog@

2011-03-06 Thread Michael Scherer

On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 08:54:58 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote:

Hi,

like at Mandriva and since it was asked by people, a new list was 
created

for changelog.

To subscribe, just do like bugs@, etc, etc.

- Create a account on identity.mageia.org ( if you do not have one )
- Go on https://ml.mageia.org/ , login with either your login or your 
email

- Go on https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/changelog ,
click on subscribe
- Enjoy


And people who prefer rss can also directly use those provided by
sympa :
https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/rss_request/changelog

( didn't tried myself, so if someone could tell us if this is working 
fine.. )


--
Michael Scherer