Re: [Mageia-dev] [ANN] New ml changelog@
'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 07/03/11 07:57 did gyre and gimble: On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 08:54:58 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote: Hi, like at Mandriva and since it was asked by people, a new list was created for changelog. To subscribe, just do like bugs@, etc, etc. - Create a account on identity.mageia.org ( if you do not have one ) - Go on https://ml.mageia.org/ , login with either your login or your email - Go on https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/changelog , click on subscribe - Enjoy And people who prefer rss can also directly use those provided by sympa : https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/rss_request/changelog ( didn't tried myself, so if someone could tell us if this is working fine.. ) Has anyone submitted it to Gmane yet? Col -- Colin Guthrie mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]
Re: [Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10
'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 06/03/11 20:49 did gyre and gimble: On 6 March 2011 21:25, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.20110303.3.mga1 works (in the brief test I did). ati, nouveau nivdia are OK then We need testers for intel then. I'll try to resurect an old box for testing SIS support. Running fine so far on my (now slightly ageing) Intel i945GM Updated status: = All major video drivers seems to works fine: ATI/AMD, Intel, Nvidia (nouveau/nvidia) Most major input drivers seems to works fine: evdev[1]*, wacom. We need testing for: - video: vesa, fb, vbox fglrx though. - input: joystick[2], synaptics Forgot to say, but my machine also uses synaptics. It too appears to be working fine. Cheers Col -- Colin Guthrie mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]
Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent
'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 07/03/11 07:48 did gyre and gimble: Another view would be that too much tabs is usually a sign that most of them are not needed now, and should not be shown. But this requires a more high level interface ( ie, sometimes that say put the link to a 'read later' list / place it with other easy to access documentation rather than a very low level operation like open a new tab to fullfill all possible needs regarding opening a windows ) I completely agree, however I also completely refuse to work differently... (not because I'm being stubborn, but mainly because I just don't work like that - tried it, and failed miserably...) But I totally agree about how much functionality is being pushed into Browsers that should be the domain of the WM... I find tabbed browsing very similar to the MDI (multiple document interface) from many moons ago on Windows... when e.g. Word would have several documents open but only one Word application. The paradigm is the same a decade later. Then you get the whole tab candy UI in FF, it's really what the WM should be doing, not the browser... but then there are arguments for doing it in the browser - it can cheat and not really load the web page - to work at the WM level there would have to be more complex protocols between WM and app. Anyway, this is heading distinctly off topic. Suffice to say I agree, but still can't work that way :D Col -- Colin Guthrie mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]
[Mageia-dev] Leave
Hi all, I'm sorry to announce you that I'm leaving mageia for various reasons: I haven't too many time, with my studies, my mandriva's contributions... And I have too make a choice and my choice is Mandriva. Good luck for mageia guys!
Re: [Mageia-dev] Leave
lunedì 7 marzo 2011 alle 11:51, Cazzaniga Sandro ha scritto: Hi all, I'm sorry to announce you that I'm leaving mageia for various reasons: I haven't too many time, with my studies, my mandriva's contributions... And I have too make a choice and my choice is Mandriva. I see. Sooner or later it would have been happened, someone leaving i mean. Well Mandriva is just on the other channel... you're not so far ;) Cheers, Angelo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[Mageia-dev] test xorg
Card nvidia 9500 GT VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] (rev a1) Vesa, nv, nouveau and nvidia drivers work fine. Compiz-fusion works with nvidia driver (under kde4 and xfce).
[Mageia-dev] Sophie doesn't survey updates_testing repos
Hi ! Some work for Nanardon ... http://sophie.zarb.org/distrib/Mageia/cauldron/i586 Missing repos : Core-updates_testing Core-updates_testing-src nonfree-updates_testing nonfree-updates_testing-src tainted-updates_testing tainted-updates_testing-src Best regards philippe
Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
On 5 March 2011 10:41, Buchan Milne bgmi...@staff.telkomsa.net wrote:
1)What to use in the From tag in the mail to the changelog list.
Mandriva: From: Full Name devel@mandriva...
Mageia: From: Mageia Team buildsystem-daemon@mageia
IMHO, it is beneficial to have the name of the submitter of the package in
the From tag, you can easily, from just looking at the list of mails in a
folder, see what packages were updated, and if they are packages you maintain,
who submitted them, without even having to open the mail. Having a generic
static text here is of no benefit ...
Indeef I find usefull to know who submit what directly.
If I've short time to review uploads, I can focus my time on what
I think should be reviewed.
Then I mail the packager about stuff.
If it's generic enough, I cc: the packaging ml so that everybody can benefits.
Proposal 1.1:
From: $user{cn} packa...@mageia.org
e.g.
From: Buchan Milne packa...@mageia.org
If we want to rather try and build teams who work on specific groups of
packages, it may be better to have use:
Proposal 1.2:
From: $user{cn} %n...@packages.mageia.org
e.g.
From: Buchan Milne openl...@packages.mageia.org
My preference: 1.2 or 1.1
3)What to use in the %changelog section of the spec file
(...)
Proposal 3.1:
$user{cn} $user{uid} %version-%release
e.g.
Buchan Milne buchan 3.5.7-1mga
Porposal 3.2:
$user{cn} $user{mail} %version-%release
e.g.
Buchan Milne bgmilne@mageia.
My preference: 3.2 so that we can efficiently perform peer review.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
On 5 March 2011 10:30, Remy CLOUARD shikam...@mandriva.org wrote: Nice to see some ruby packages here. If we are not short on ISO size, I would be glad if the following packages could be added (in priority order) ruby-mysql (33k) / mysql (97k) ruby-sqlite3 (28k) it does not make much sense to provide rails without a db adaptor ruby-rspec (5k) / ruby-rspec-core (34k) / ruby-rspec-expectations (24k) / ruby-rspec-mocks (17k) it allows one to run the testsuite of many rails apps (though cucumber is a nice addition too, thanks !) If we are a bit short, maybe you can remove ruby-sprockets (10k), ruby-sprockets-rails (6k), ruby-sprockets-rails-doc (20k) I know those are smalls. But: 1) as we said in French, small rivers add up to do big main stems 2) I don't think these packages are relevant to end users Thus I think they should belong on the ISOs. Sorry.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Contributors using real name/working email? or not? or maybe?
'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 07/03/11 12:53 did gyre and gimble:
On 5 March 2011 10:41, Buchan Milne bgmi...@staff.telkomsa.net wrote:
1)What to use in the From tag in the mail to the changelog list.
Mandriva: From: Full Name devel@mandriva...
Mageia: From: Mageia Team buildsystem-daemon@mageia
IMHO, it is beneficial to have the name of the submitter of the package in
the From tag, you can easily, from just looking at the list of mails in a
folder, see what packages were updated, and if they are packages you
maintain,
who submitted them, without even having to open the mail. Having a generic
static text here is of no benefit ...
Indeef I find usefull to know who submit what directly.
If I've short time to review uploads, I can focus my time on what
I think should be reviewed.
Then I mail the packager about stuff.
If it's generic enough, I cc: the packaging ml so that everybody can benefits.
Proposal 1.1:
From: $user{cn} packa...@mageia.org
e.g.
From: Buchan Milne packa...@mageia.org
If we want to rather try and build teams who work on specific groups of
packages, it may be better to have use:
Proposal 1.2:
From: $user{cn} %n...@packages.mageia.org
e.g.
From: Buchan Milne openl...@packages.mageia.org
My preference: 1.2 or 1.1
3)What to use in the %changelog section of the spec file
(...)
Proposal 3.1:
$user{cn} $user{uid} %version-%release
e.g.
Buchan Milne buchan 3.5.7-1mga
Porposal 3.2:
$user{cn} $user{mail} %version-%release
e.g.
Buchan Milne bgmilne@mageia.
My preference: 3.2 so that we can efficiently perform peer review.
+1 on both TV's comments. Email addresses are the new username in
today's VCSs anyway
Col
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Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
Anne nicolas said on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 03:49:55PM +0100: Here is last list for 32 bits iso: http://pastebin.com/ewtrB6v6 mutt ? uucp ? Bruno, probably showing age here :-) -- Open Source Linux Profession Lead EMEA / http://opensource.hp.com HP/Intel/Red Hat Open Source Solutions Initiative / http://www.hpintelco.net http://www.HyPer-Linux.org http://mondorescue.org http://project-builder.org La musique ancienne? http://www.musique-ancienne.org http://www.medieval.org
Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
Am Samstag 05 März 2011, 02:37:24 schrieb Kira: Please have a look an check what could be missing as important packages and we will see how we can deal with it With mplayer, I suggest adding smplayer into the list? It's the most common mplayer front end, and way better than other mplayer based program. Nothing against mplayer (and especially smplayer, which I use a lot), but couldn't we go back to have kaffeine as default kde media player? Oliver
Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
Le 07/03/2011 18:40, Oliver Burger a écrit : Am Samstag 05 März 2011, 02:37:24 schrieb Kira: Please have a look an check what could be missing as important packages and we will see how we can deal with it With mplayer, I suggest adding smplayer into the list? It's the most common mplayer front end, and way better than other mplayer based program. Nothing against mplayer (and especially smplayer, which I use a lot), but couldn't we go back to have kaffeine as default kde media player? Oliver I'm personally not sure that Kaffeine is stable enough. I never had a great experience of Kaffeine, it seemed it's GUI was quite unclean. Dragon Player seemed fine, but far too simple. ...perhaps Kmplayer? It has a few bugs, but it may be more easy to patch them upstream. It is a KDE frontend for powerfull Mplayer. Mplayer and its KDe frontend is by the only player able to read Full HD videos fluently. Just suggesting...
Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
On 7 March 2011 19:51, Thomas Lottmann skipercoo...@gmail.com wrote: Le 07/03/2011 18:40, Oliver Burger a écrit : Am Samstag 05 März 2011, 02:37:24 schrieb Kira: Please have a look an check what could be missing as important packages and we will see how we can deal with it With mplayer, I suggest adding smplayer into the list? It's the most common mplayer front end, and way better than other mplayer based program. Nothing against mplayer (and especially smplayer, which I use a lot), but couldn't we go back to have kaffeine as default kde media player? Oliver I'm personally not sure that Kaffeine is stable enough. I never had a great experience of Kaffeine, it seemed it's GUI was quite unclean. Dragon Player seemed fine, but far too simple. ...perhaps Kmplayer? It has a few bugs, but it may be more easy to patch them upstream. It is a KDE frontend for powerfull Mplayer. Mplayer and its KDe frontend is by the only player able to read Full HD videos fluently. Just suggesting... IMHO, if mplayer is ever installed by default, then smplayer should be installed by default (it's the most feature-rich GUI for mplayer). Both kaffeine and dragon are simplistic players, if we have to choose one of them, it'll be dragon (being the upstream default player). Kaffeine doesn't use phonon any more, it uses libxine directly... -- Ahmad Samir
Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent
OK, changes applied. -- Ahmad Samir
Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent
On 7 March 2011 09:48, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:32:20 -0500, Hoyt Duff wrote: On 3/6/11, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 March 2011 21:11, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: I find myself in the same scenario quite regularly too (20+ tabs) and find having the new tab at least quite close to the current one a massive usability improvement. Indeed. The reverse is annoying. It's also interesting to see the reverse order argument mentioned previously doesn't always apply. There are some heuristics in there as to whether it should be opened immediately to the right of the current tab or after the other tabs that have been opened recently. Tabs should not extend off the screenbut instead wrap and to multiple rows, IMHO. Then, it start to become more like a 2nd windows manager, and we go back to the MDI metaphor of win95. Another view would be that too much tabs is usually a sign that most of them are not needed now, and should not be shown. But this requires a more high level interface ( ie, sometimes that say put the link to a 'read later' list / place it with other easy to access documentation rather than a very low level operation like open a new tab to fullfill all possible needs regarding opening a windows ) -- Michael Scherer I've found that if I put it in a read later folder/list/bookmark, that there's a 70% chance that I'll I never read it :) FWIW, now firefox-4.0 has a new feature, when you save the session the next time you open it it only loads 3 tabs from each window, leaves the rest not loaded until you open it. http://blog.zpao.com/post/1140456188/cascaded-session-restore-a-hidden-bonus (Just to have a jab at the off-topic discussion :p). -- Ahmad Samir
Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent
On 3/7/11, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: I've found that if I put it in a read later folder/list/bookmark, that there's a 70% chance that I'll I never read it :) I manage my voluminous tabs by organising them by separate window. When I have a window of links I wish to explore further or wish to explore a particular topic, I left-click on the tab, hold and drag it away. FF then pops the tab up in a new window of its own. Then, if I have a number of tabs I wish to keep, I can use the Bookmark All Tabs option (and add the date so I can delete them later if I never use them -- I wish FF could sort tabs by date). -- Hoyt
Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent
Op maandag 07 maart 2011 08:48:23 schreef Michael Scherer: On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:32:20 -0500, Hoyt Duff wrote: On 3/6/11, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 March 2011 21:11, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: I find myself in the same scenario quite regularly too (20+ tabs) and find having the new tab at least quite close to the current one a massive usability improvement. Indeed. The reverse is annoying. It's also interesting to see the reverse order argument mentioned previously doesn't always apply. There are some heuristics in there as to whether it should be opened immediately to the right of the current tab or after the other tabs that have been opened recently. Tabs should not extend off the screenbut instead wrap and to multiple rows, IMHO. Then, it start to become more like a 2nd windows manager, and we go back to the MDI metaphor of win95. Another view would be that too much tabs is usually a sign that most of them are not needed now, and should not be shown. But this requires a more high level interface ( ie, sometimes that say put the link to a 'read later' list / place it with other easy to access documentation rather than a very low level operation like open a new tab to fullfill all possible needs regarding opening a windows ) sometimes i just have alot of different tabs, perhaps it would be easier to have tabs on the right side (most of us have widescreen monitors anyway). (and sometimes they are all related to the same topic) otoh, if every tab would be different window, any window manager i've seen wouldn't do it properly either. perhaps window managers need to find a new way of handling such things,... something original.
Re: [Mageia-dev] [ANN] New ml changelog@
Op maandag 07 maart 2011 08:57:49 schreef Michael Scherer: On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 08:54:58 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote: Hi, like at Mandriva and since it was asked by people, a new list was created for changelog. To subscribe, just do like bugs@, etc, etc. - Create a account on identity.mageia.org ( if you do not have one ) - Go on https://ml.mageia.org/ , login with either your login or your email - Go on https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/changelog , click on subscribe - Enjoy And people who prefer rss can also directly use those provided by sympa : https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/rss_request/changelog ( didn't tried myself, so if someone could tell us if this is working fine.. ) the rss isn't usefull at all for me, it only contains a link to the page, and always has the same title.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
Op maandag 07 maart 2011 19:28:25 schreef Ahmad Samir: IMHO, if mplayer is ever installed by default, then smplayer should be installed by default (it's the most feature-rich GUI for mplayer). Both kaffeine and dragon are simplistic players, if we have to choose one of them, it'll be dragon (being the upstream default player). Kaffeine doesn't use phonon any more, it uses libxine directly... imho, there is just no good one except xine-ui, but the upstream support is dwindling for it, and their own toolkitted stuff just doesn't look good anymore. i was thinking, even though i use kde, maybe gxine would be ok.
Re: [Mageia-dev] [ANN] New ml changelog@
Le lundi 07 mars 2011 à 20:24 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Op maandag 07 maart 2011 08:57:49 schreef Michael Scherer: On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 08:54:58 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote: And people who prefer rss can also directly use those provided by sympa : https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/rss_request/changelog ( didn't tried myself, so if someone could tell us if this is working fine.. ) the rss isn't usefull at all for me, it only contains a link to the page, and always has the same title. I do have the subject of each mail corresponding to the name of the uploaded rpm. -- Michael Scherer
Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent
'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 07/03/11 19:21 did gyre and gimble: sometimes i just have alot of different tabs, perhaps it would be easier to have tabs on the right side (most of us have widescreen monitors anyway). There is a plugin for that (or there was... can't remember as it was a friend who used it rather than me :)) Col -- Colin Guthrie mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]
Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content
在 Tue, 08 Mar 2011 01:40:07 +0800, Oliver Burger oliver@googlemail.com寫道: Am Samstag 05 März 2011, 02:37:24 schrieb Kira: Please have a look an check what could be missing as important packages and we will see how we can deal with it With mplayer, I suggest adding smplayer into the list? It's the most common mplayer front end, and way better than other mplayer based program. Nothing against mplayer (and especially smplayer, which I use a lot), but couldn't we go back to have kaffeine as default kde media player? Oliver If we use the view of QT-based program, not only KDELib-based, then smplayer is way better. Kaffeine is great in KDE3, but currently in KDE4, I think it's still not stable enough.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox prefs: insertRelatedAfterCurrent
On 8 March 2011 01:13, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 07/03/11 19:21 did gyre and gimble: sometimes i just have alot of different tabs, perhaps it would be easier to have tabs on the right side (most of us have widescreen monitors anyway). There is a plugin for that (or there was... can't remember as it was a friend who used it rather than me :)) Col https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/108862/ -- Colin Guthrie mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/] -- Ahmad Samir
