Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content

2011-03-12 Thread 'Priscus' Hugot
Greetings, 

About Geeqie being abandonned too, this is sad news. I kind of liked
the idea of an actively developped project, if only to avoid bitrot
(the GTK2->3 may require some work in the not-so-far future, for
example)
Too bad, and thank you for the heads-up. 

Best regards, 
Priscus. 


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Tux99


Quote: Ahmad Samir wrote on Sat, 12 March 2011 21:16

> 
> But you can't install 'wine' and 'wine64' at the same time.

True I didn't even realise that there is also a 'wine' package in addition
to 'wine64' and 'wine32'.
'wine32' seems to contain all that's needed to run win32 apps (at least I
have used it here on my Mageia x86_64 box to run a few win32 apps without
problems) so I haven't felt any need for this other 'wine' package so
far.

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Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content

2011-03-12 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le samedi 12 mars 2011 12:54:54, 'Priscus' Hugot a écrit :
> GQView has been abandonned by its author since 2006: there is an
> actively developped fork, Geeqie (http://geeqie.sourceforge.net/),
> already present in Mandriva 2010.1 contribs if it helps. 
> Unless there are missing features or Geeqie bloats excessively (it
> does not seem that way to a casual user), it may even be possible to
> replace GQView completely and drop the RPM. Any opinions from GQView
> heavy users? 

I use GQView without any trouble since KDE4.

With kde3, I was a user of kuickshow and very satisfied, but as it was not 
correctly built on KDE4, I leaved it.


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Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 12 March 2011 20:49, Tux99  wrote:
>
>
> Quote: Samuel Verschelde wrote on Sat, 12 March 2011 12:35
>
>> Then isn't the problem that wine and wine64 can't be both installed ?
>> And
>> isn't there a way to allow that ?
>
> but they can be, or at least the current Mageia packages allow it:
>
> $ rpm -qa|grep wine
> wine64-1.3.15-1.mga1
> wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
> wine32-1.3.15-1.mga1
> lib64kwineffects1-4.6.1-1.mga1
> $
>
> I didn't force anything they both installed cleanly along each other.
>

But you can't install 'wine' and 'wine64' at the same time.

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Re: [Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content

2011-03-12 Thread Tux99


Geeqie is almost dead too these days (on the ML all initial devs recently
said they don't have time anymore to dedicate to it, also s.o. else seems
to have cloned the code to github and is working on it separately so
currently there are several svn/git versions floating around), personally
I'm not too convinced by the changes made in Geeqie, I still prefer
Gqview.
Of course that doesn't mean that we can't have both packages just like
Mandriva, which also has both Gqview and Geeqie packages in the repos
(even in cooker last time I looked).
I wouldn't consider Geeqie a replacement, rather a specialized fork aimed
at professional photo tagging.

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Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Tux99


Quote: Samuel Verschelde wrote on Sat, 12 March 2011 12:35

> Then isn't the problem that wine and wine64 can't be both installed ?
> And 
> isn't there a way to allow that ?

but they can be, or at least the current Mageia packages allow it:

$ rpm -qa|grep wine
wine64-1.3.15-1.mga1
wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
wine32-1.3.15-1.mga1
lib64kwineffects1-4.6.1-1.mga1
$

I didn't force anything they both installed cleanly along each other.


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Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 12 March 2011 10:27, Thierry Vignaud  wrote:
> On 11 March 2011 12:19, Mageia Team  wrote:
>> stormi  3.8.8-2.mga1:
>> + Revision: 68228
>> - clean spec
>> - imported package playonlinux
>
> This is bogus as in Mandriva.
> It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
> by removing wine64 in favor of wine.
>

Well, do you have any apps to run under wine64? I don't

The thing is, wine64 is built now, but I am not sure how many people
actually use it...

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Re: [Mageia-dev] [653] remove wrong item in NEWS

2011-03-12 Thread Anne nicolas
2011/3/12 Thierry Vignaud :
> On 12 March 2011 13:48,   wrote:
>> Revision 653 Author ennael Date 2011-03-12 13:48:26 +0100 (Sat, 12 Mar 2011)
>>
>> Log Message
>>
>> remove wrong item in  NEWS
>
> 
>
>> Modified: drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/NEWS
>> ===
>> --- drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/NEWS     2011-03-12 12:42:56 UTC (rev 
>> 652)
>> +++ drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/NEWS     2011-03-12 12:48:26 UTC (rev 
>> 653)
>> @@ -1,3 +1,7 @@
>> +Version 13.44
>> +
>> +- clean installer design for Mageia
>> +
>>  Version 13.43
>>
>>  - handle new drivers:
>

Hum thought I had committed in betwwen advertising update in list...
will buy new eyes after alpha2

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http://www.mageia.org


Re: [Mageia-dev] [653] remove wrong item in NEWS

2011-03-12 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 12 March 2011 13:48,   wrote:
> Revision 653 Author ennael Date 2011-03-12 13:48:26 +0100 (Sat, 12 Mar 2011)
>
> Log Message
>
> remove wrong item in  NEWS



> Modified: drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/NEWS
> ===
> --- drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/NEWS 2011-03-12 12:42:56 UTC (rev 
> 652)
> +++ drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/NEWS 2011-03-12 12:48:26 UTC (rev 
> 653)
> @@ -1,3 +1,7 @@
> +Version 13.44
> +
> +- clean installer design for Mageia
> +
>  Version 13.43
>
>  - handle new drivers:


[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 iso content

2011-03-12 Thread 'Priscus' Hugot
Greetings, 

Hello from an old Mandrake user and lurker, and now Mageia hopeful. 

I am very certainly too late for the Alpha 2, but this may be useful
for next round: 

GQView has been abandonned by its author since 2006: there is an
actively developped fork, Geeqie (http://geeqie.sourceforge.net/),
already present in Mandriva 2010.1 contribs if it helps. 
Unless there are missing features or Geeqie bloats excessively (it
does not seem that way to a casual user), it may even be possible to
replace GQView completely and drop the RPM. Any opinions from GQView
heavy users? 

Music-wise, Clementine might be a good candidate for ISO inclusion: it
is already in core, has few dependencies (and most are already in the
ISO anyway) and handles large collections better than most equivalents
(exaile, for example, last time I checked)
It is the Amarok for those who do not want or cannot afford KDE on
their computer (old SSD-based netbooks, for example). 

I will try to be more timely in the future (including sending
this again for the beta, if necessary)

Best regards, 
Priscus. 


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 12 maart 2011 12:35:57 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
> Le samedi 12 mars 2011 12:22:47, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
> > On 12 March 2011 11:35, Maarten Vanraes  wrote:
> > >> > stormi  3.8.8-2.mga1:
> > >> > + Revision: 68228
> > >> > - clean spec
> > >> > - imported package playonlinux
> > >> 
> > >> This is bogus as in Mandriva.
> > >> It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
> > >> by removing wine64 in favor of wine.
> > > 
> > > afaik, wine64 only supports executing 64bit windows executables. and is
> > > kind of useless atm.
> > 
> > That's not the point.
> > One may want to have both:
> > - wine64 in order to run 64biut windows program
> > - playonlinux in order to play 32bit stuff
> 
> Then isn't the problem that wine and wine64 can't be both installed ? And
> isn't there a way to allow that ?
> 
> Samuel

afaik not, it's an upstream thing. perhaps you can find more info on the wine 
FAQ/bugzilla


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le samedi 12 mars 2011 12:22:47, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
> On 12 March 2011 11:35, Maarten Vanraes  wrote:
> >> > stormi  3.8.8-2.mga1:
> >> > + Revision: 68228
> >> > - clean spec
> >> > - imported package playonlinux
> >> 
> >> This is bogus as in Mandriva.
> >> It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
> >> by removing wine64 in favor of wine.
> > 
> > afaik, wine64 only supports executing 64bit windows executables. and is
> > kind of useless atm.
> 
> That's not the point.
> One may want to have both:
> - wine64 in order to run 64biut windows program
> - playonlinux in order to play 32bit stuff

Then isn't the problem that wine and wine64 can't be both installed ? And 
isn't there a way to allow that ?

Samuel


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 12 March 2011 11:35, Maarten Vanraes  wrote:
>> > stormi  3.8.8-2.mga1:
>> > + Revision: 68228
>> > - clean spec
>> > - imported package playonlinux
>>
>> This is bogus as in Mandriva.
>> It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
>> by removing wine64 in favor of wine.
>
> afaik, wine64 only supports executing 64bit windows executables. and is kind
> of useless atm.

That's not the point.
One may want to have both:
- wine64 in order to run 64biut windows program
- playonlinux in order to play 32bit stuff


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 12 maart 2011 09:27:54 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
> On 11 March 2011 12:19, Mageia Team  wrote:
> > stormi  3.8.8-2.mga1:
> > + Revision: 68228
> > - clean spec
> > - imported package playonlinux
> 
> This is bogus as in Mandriva.
> It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
> by removing wine64 in favor of wine.

afaik, wine64 only supports executing 64bit windows executables. and is kind 
of useless atm.


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le samedi 12 mars 2011 09:27:54, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
> On 11 March 2011 12:19, Mageia Team  wrote:
> > stormi  3.8.8-2.mga1:
> > + Revision: 68228
> > - clean spec
> > - imported package playonlinux
> 
> This is bogus as in Mandriva.
> It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
> by removing wine64 in favor of wine.

What would be the solution ? I must admit I didn't know this problem in 
Mandriva because I have only i586 systems.

Playonlinux requires wine and wine-full (both provided by wine, and wine-full 
being an explicit Requires you added some months ago, from the changelog). 
Does wine64 provide those ? Is the requires on wine the problem ?

Best regards

Samuel Verschelde


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 11 March 2011 12:19, Mageia Team  wrote:
> stormi  3.8.8-2.mga1:
> + Revision: 68228
> - clean spec
> - imported package playonlinux

This is bogus as in Mandriva.
It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
by removing wine64 in favor of wine.