Re: [Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2401] reorganize mounted images tests and summary output

2011-12-12 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 12 December 2011 23:46,   wrote:
> Revision 2401 Author rda Date 2011-12-12 23:46:41 +0100 (Mon, 12 Dec 2011)
>
> Log Message
>
> reorganize mounted images tests and summary output

(...)

> +system 'umount -l /media/iso_check';

you can use system('umount, '-l', '/me...')
it saves a forked sell everty time


[Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices

2011-12-12 Thread andre999

Hi everyone,

We have several new packagers -- barjac and malo (thanks to mentor shlomif), 
and eatdirt (thanks to mentor obgr_seneca).  All of whom are already active 
maintainers (with at least one package).  (malo has over 50.)


We have 5 apprentice candidates, all eagerly awaiting their mentor.

neocrust (Alexander Scherbakov), who has been waiting over a month,
and has experience maintaining packages for openSuse and Lunar Linux, as well 
as translating to Russion, and doing documentation with the Gentoo Russion team.


regularlambda (Mahmut Bulut), who has been waiting almost a month (sorry for 
missing you),

and has experience packaging for other distros.

am2605 (Andrew Myers), who has been waiting over a week,
a longtime Fedora, a web developer, interested in packaging related to Gnome, 
Java, Ecliple among others, teaching himself Mageia packaging basics.


ajunior (Adjamiltion Júnior),
who is interested in maintaining packages related to pinpoint, gzip, or any 
others needing a maintainer


hurdman ((Yyves-Gaël Chény),
who develops system software and maintains a Gnu/Linux server at work.

You can find more details at:
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packager_apprentice_candidates
(Note that this address has changed with the new wiki.)

Mentors, let me know who you take on, and I'll update the tables for you.

Thanks :-)



We now have 53 active packagers (maintaining at least one package), with 
several who have yet to take a package.

We currently have about 40 apprentices.
Almost 80% of packages have a maintainer.



Anyone else looking for a mentor, let me know so I can add your name as an 
apprentice candidate -- or you can do it yourself.
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packager_apprentice_candidates 



See also the previous sections, on becoming a Mageia packager :
https://wiki.mageia.org/mw-en/index.php?title=Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager&action=submit#What_is_needed_to_become_a_Mageia_packager

To find a mentor, you can also post to this list (mageia-dev), or on IRC at 
freenode #mageia-mentoring.


Regards :-)

--
André
(Packager mentoring program coordinator)



Re: [Mageia-dev] Problem with $MIRRORLIST ?

2011-12-12 Thread David W. Hodgins

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:59:08 -0500, Charles A Edwards  wrote:


For the past 2 days there appears to be an issue if using $MIRRORLIST
urpmi bails with the following:
'Could not find a mirror from mirrorlist $MIRRORLIST'


See https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3707

Regards, Dave Hodgins


[Mageia-dev] Problem with $MIRRORLIST ?

2011-12-12 Thread Charles A Edwards
For the past 2 days there appears to be an issue if using $MIRRORLIST
urpmi bails with the following:
'Could not find a mirror from mirrorlist $MIRRORLIST'


Charles

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Re: [Mageia-dev] looking for a mentor

2011-12-12 Thread D.Morgan
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Samuel Verschelde  wrote:
> Le mardi 6 décembre 2011 23:03:08, Chény Yves-Gaël a écrit :
>> Hi,
>> my name is Yves-Gaël aka hurdman ( on the french mageia chan).
>>
>> I have used Mandriva before mageia a long time ago for server and desktop.
>> Some of the french team has known me as nantes_geek.
>> I ever made some unofficial package for mandriva ( on distrib coffee
>> people's section).
>> I have a mirror for mageia (mageia.r0b0t.fr) and i begin to port to
>> mageia a mandriva-based gpl3 project for educational purpose (phoenixedu
>> => the forge will be open soon).
>>
>> Now, i have got time to package some soft for the community but i have
>> never learned how build a
>> good rpm ;)
>> So, if someone has some time for me , i can become his apprentice.
>>
>> I hope i can contrib a bit ;)
>>
>> many thanks,
>>
>> hurdman
>
> Nice to see you step in!
>
> I already have several apprentices so I won't volunteer for now but hope you
> will find one soon.
>
> To andre999 : time for a report about current mentorship status? Are there
> other would-be packager waiting for a mentor?
>
> Best regards
>
> Samuel Verschelde

If nobody propose i can open my "last" slot.

Please open a bugreport to ask an account and tell :

dmorgan will mentor me


Re: [Mageia-dev] Welcome New Packagers: barjac and Malo

2011-12-12 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 12 december 2011 22:07:28 schreef Barry Jackson:
> On 12/12/11 20:14, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm proud to announce that Barry Jackson ("barjac") and Pierre-Malo
> > Denielou ("Malo") have both graduated from their packager mentorship
> > process and got submit rights.
> > 
> > Welcome to the Mageia Packaging Team!
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Shlomi Fish
> 
> Thanks, Shlomi for putting up with all my questions!
> I think that right now is where the real learning begins ;)
> 
> Barry

don't say such offending things towards your master :-P

j/k, welcome to you both

AL13N


Re: [Mageia-dev] Welcome New Packagers: barjac and Malo

2011-12-12 Thread Malo
On 12/12/11 21:07, Barry Jackson wrote:
> On 12/12/11 20:14, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm proud to announce that Barry Jackson ("barjac") and Pierre-Malo Denielou
>> ("Malo") have both graduated from their packager mentorship process and got
>> submit rights.
>>
>> Welcome to the Mageia Packaging Team!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Shlomi Fish
>>
> Thanks, Shlomi for putting up with all my questions!
> I think that right now is where the real learning begins ;)
> 
> Barry

Thanks as well Shlomi for your patience and availability!

I hope we won't screw everything, now that we can ;-)

I also want to encourage strongly people to enrol as either mentors (for the
Jedi packagers) or as apprentices (for anyone who want to contribute to fix bugs
and maintain packages). This apprenticeship program is great, and new
packagers/maintainers are greatly needed.

The current place to start is:
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager

Cheers,
-- 
Malo


Re: [Mageia-dev] Welcome New Packagers: barjac and Malo

2011-12-12 Thread Barry Jackson

On 12/12/11 20:14, Shlomi Fish wrote:

Hi all,

I'm proud to announce that Barry Jackson ("barjac") and Pierre-Malo Denielou
("Malo") have both graduated from their packager mentorship process and got
submit rights.

Welcome to the Mageia Packaging Team!

Regards,

Shlomi Fish


Thanks, Shlomi for putting up with all my questions!
I think that right now is where the real learning begins ;)

Barry


[Mageia-dev] Welcome New Packagers: barjac and Malo

2011-12-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all,

I'm proud to announce that Barry Jackson ("barjac") and Pierre-Malo Denielou
("Malo") have both graduated from their packager mentorship process and got
submit rights.

Welcome to the Mageia Packaging Team!

Regards,

Shlomi Fish 

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And if the whole world says one thing and my email says something different,
email will conquer.

— an Israeli Linuxer.

Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .


[Mageia-dev] Please don't update qgis

2011-12-12 Thread Oliver Burger
Hi there,

if anyone of you should notice, that qgis needs an update. I'll do it 
tommorow.

I need this for a presentation I have to do tommorow, so please leave it for 
me :D

Thanks,

Oliver


Re: [Mageia-dev] once again about ffmpeg in Mga1

2011-12-12 Thread Funda Wang
ffmpeg 0.7 has been removed from updates_testing already.

2011/12/12 Kamil Rytarowski :
> Hello!
> Please note that disabling x264 in ffmpeg causes errors
> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3670


[Mageia-dev] once again about ffmpeg in Mga1

2011-12-12 Thread Kamil Rytarowski

Hello!
Please note that disabling x264 in ffmpeg causes errors
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3670


Re: [Mageia-dev] init=systemd

2011-12-12 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Olivier Blin at 11/12/11 13:56 did gyre and gimble:
> Thomas Backlund  writes:
> 
>> Charles A Edwards skrev 8.12.2011 01:40:
>>> I've noticed on the latest tmb kernels (those after 3.0.8-1) that
>>> init=systemd is now being auto added to the lilo append.
>>>
>>> Thankfully that did not cause a boot issue on this system for I am
>>> still using sysvinit here and Not systemd-sysvinit.
>>>
>>> Should it now be auto added with kernels on all systems???
>>>
>>
>> AFAIK it should only happend if you had it on the command line for the
>> kernel you was running when you installed next kernel.
> 
> Well, init=/bin/systemd is forced by drakxtools on each kernel install,
> if /bin/systemd exists (which means always, since systemd is required by
> basesystem). See /usr/lib/libDrakX/bootloader.pm
> 
> This is pretty bad, we should not do it if we still want to keep
> sysvinit compatibility in Mageia 2.
> 

Oh boy, I certainly wasn't aware of that bit of code. It seems crazy
code to me (duplicating what installing systemd-sysvinit package does.
There is literally no need for that whole section, so I'd just strip it out.

Col

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Re: [Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later

2011-12-12 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 10/12/11 11:14 did gyre and gimble:
> Le samedi 10 décembre 2011 11:14:38, Michael Scherer a écrit :
>> Le jeudi 08 décembre 2011 à 18:51 +0800, Funda Wang a écrit :
>>> I would suggest that registering nobody as a mailing list, so that
>>> every interested packagers could join to help.
>>
>> No.
>>
>> For the reasons already highlighted several time, this would not work.
>> That's the situation at mandriva, and we know well the problem it cause
>> ( aka, obscure communication, no one really in charge of a rpm, so not
>> one feeling responsible for bugs or anything ).
>>
>> Either a package is maintained and should be marked as such, or it is
>> not, and should be marked as such, with a unfortunate fate for him
>> sooner or later.
>>
>> The goal is not to align lots of unmaintained packages, but to have a
>> maintained distribution. People have been complaining for quality since
>> a lot of time, and that's the only way to have it.
>> If not, this end like Mandriva, people see and fill bugs, they are not
>> fixed, and no one care. This greatly undermine the confidence in the
>> distribution in the long run, and so while having maintainer is not a
>> magic solution, this is a important step in the right direction.
>>
>> A free-for-all pool is just a mess.
> 
> You're explaining why having orphan packages is bad and it's hard to 
> disagree, 
> but I fail to see why such a mailing list for people who are ready to devote 
> some time to orphan packages would make things worse. It's not because it's 
> not the ideal solution that it's bad, is it?

I understand Misc's point, but when there cannot be a perfect solution
that works, then a least bad one will do.

While it's been said lots of times by Misc that it's a bad situation,
until someone comes up with a better practical approach I don't think a
mailing list will may anything worse and may help when people are idling
and looking for tasks. So I'm in favour of such a mailing list.

Col


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Re: [Mageia-dev] Build-in or stand-alone module for X to support Y

2011-12-12 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 11.12.2011 19:39, Florian Hubold wrote:
> Am 11.12.2011 16:58, schrieb Maarten Vanraes:
>> Op zaterdag 10 december 2011 15:13:19 schreef Manuel Hiebel:
>>> Le samedi 10 décembre 2011 à 14:48 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
 Op zaterdag 10 december 2011 14:41:30 schreef Kamil Rytarowski:
> W dniu 10.12.2011 14:11, Maarten Vanraes pisze:
>> Op zaterdag 10 december 2011 14:06:18 schreef Kamil Rytarowski:
>>> W dniu 10.12.2011 13:45, Maarten Vanraes pisze:
 Op zaterdag 10 december 2011 13:12:52 schreef Kamil Rytarowski:
> Hello!
>>> [...]
>>>
 look at other packages, like mysql, they generate a README.install.urpmi
 file which show this text in rpmdrake
>>> Rpmdrake ? are you sure it's not only in urpmi ? (cli)
>> well, i operated on the assumption that both show these... it it's not like 
>> that, then i need to rethink some actions i did...
>>
> Generally it will be shown by both
> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mandriva_RPM_HOWTO#Interaction_with_urpmi_and_rpmdrake
> depending on the name of the file, you can also change it to be only shown
> by urpmi or rpmdrake, if you want to.

No, you can't.

Also, a more up-to-date documentation is in our wiki:
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_RPM_tutorial#Interaction_with_urpmi_and_rpmdrake

-- 
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Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gnuplot-4.4.4-2.mga2

2011-12-12 Thread Dick Gevers
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:09:38 +0100, Claire Revillet wrote about Re:
[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gnuplot-4.4.4-2.mga2:

>Le 12/12/2011 09:28, Dick Gevers a écrit :
>>
>> Dear pterjan,
>>
>> The doc package does not upgrade the old doc package, so none of the
>> gnuplot* packages can be easily installed with urpmi - only if the old
>> -doc package is removed before.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> =Dick Gevers=
>Your mirrors may not have been uptodate. I had no problems updating my 
>cauldron this morning.
>Claire (grenoya)

Funny, 2 simultaneous Cauldron machines here, one went okay, but the other
gave:

Installation failed:file /usr/share/gnuplot/4.4/gnuplot.gih from
install of gnuplot-nox-4.4.4-2.mga2.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
gnuplot-doc-4.4.3-2.mga2.x86_64
file /usr/share/gnuplot/4.4/lua/gnuplot-tikz.lua from install of
gnuplot-nox-4.4.4-2.mga2.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
gnuplot-doc-4.4.3-2.mga2.x86_64

Since I'm usually using --noclean I fixed the upgrade with the same files
via smart by simultaneously removing the old -doc package.

HTH

Kind regards,
=Dick Gevers=


Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gnuplot-4.4.4-2.mga2

2011-12-12 Thread Claire Revillet

Le 12/12/2011 09:28, Dick Gevers a écrit :


Dear pterjan,

The doc package does not upgrade the old doc package, so none of the
gnuplot* packages can be easily installed with urpmi - only if the old -doc
package is removed before.

Best regards,
=Dick Gevers=
Your mirrors may not have been uptodate. I had no problems updating my 
cauldron this morning.

Claire (grenoya)


Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gnuplot-4.4.4-2.mga2

2011-12-12 Thread Dick Gevers
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 01:38:16 +0100 (CET), Mageia Team wrote about
[changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release gnuplot-4.4.4-2.mga2:

>pterjan  4.4.4-2.mga2:
>+ Revision: 180828

>- Make the -doc package noarch

Dear pterjan,

The doc package does not upgrade the old doc package, so none of the
gnuplot* packages can be easily installed with urpmi - only if the old -doc
package is removed before.

Best regards,
=Dick Gevers=