Re: [Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?

2012-03-02 Thread D.Morgan
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Funda Wang  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is there any problem with i586 tainted repository? The build of ffmpeg
> and gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad has been stalled for hours.
>
> Thanks.
it fails because of this error :

Installation failed, some files are missing:

http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/tainted/release/libfreetype6-2.4.8-2.mga2.tainted.i586.rpm
You may need to update your urpmi database.

seems some rpms are missing ( there is no
libfreetype6-2.4.8-2.mga2.tainted.i586.rpm ).

I just pushed a new rpm of freetype in tainted.


Re: [Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?

2012-03-02 Thread Funda Wang
The problem is, if BuildRequires are failed to install, will iurt try
it forever?

2012/3/2 D.Morgan :
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Funda Wang  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is there any problem with i586 tainted repository? The build of ffmpeg
>> and gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad has been stalled for hours.
>>
>> Thanks.
> it fails because of this error :
>
> Installation failed, some files are missing:
>    
> http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/tainted/release/libfreetype6-2.4.8-2.mga2.tainted.i586.rpm
> You may need to update your urpmi database.
>
> seems some rpms are missing ( there is no
> libfreetype6-2.4.8-2.mga2.tainted.i586.rpm ).
>
> I just pushed a new rpm of freetype in tainted.


Re: [Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?

2012-03-02 Thread D.Morgan
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Funda Wang  wrote:
> The problem is, if BuildRequires are failed to install, will iurt try
> it forever?

shouldn't, seems we have an issue here that we need to fix ( i though
it was supposed to test 3 times ( or something like this ).

Pascal ,  any idea on this  ?


Re: [Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?

2012-03-02 Thread D.Morgan
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:17 AM, D.Morgan  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Funda Wang  wrote:
>> The problem is, if BuildRequires are failed to install, will iurt try
>> it forever?
>
> shouldn't, seems we have an issue here that we need to fix ( i though
> it was supposed to test 3 times ( or something like this ).

seems liblame-devel is missing too


[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Robert Fox
Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
loaded.

checking in dmesg - I see that the nouveau driver grabs the card before
the nvidia driver can - but trying to remove the nouveau driver wants to
remove over 800 packages!

How can I get the nvidia proprietary driver back??

[   53.253035] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Attempting to load BIOS image
from PRAMIN
[   53.298983] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: ... appears to be valid
[   53.298987] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: BIT BIOS found
[   53.298990] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Bios version 62.94.20.00
[   53.298993] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: TMDS table version 2.0
[   53.298996] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Found Display Configuration
Block version 4.0
[   53.298998] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Raw DCB entry 0: 02000300
0028
[   53.299013] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Raw DCB entry 1: 01000302
00020030
[   53.299015] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Raw DCB entry 2: 04011310
0028
[   53.299019] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Raw DCB entry 3: 02022332
00020010
[   53.299024] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Raw DCB entry 4: 000e

[   53.299029] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: DCB connector table: VHER
0x40 5 16 4
[   53.299039] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0:   0: 0x1030: type 0x30
idx 0 tag 0x07
[   53.299052] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0:   1: 0x0100: type 0x00
idx 1 tag 0xff
[   53.299062] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0:   2: 0x2261: type 0x61
idx 2 tag 0x08
[   53.299069] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 0 at
offset 0xD21E
[   53.324438] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 1 at
offset 0xD633
[   53.327051] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 2 at
offset 0xE624
[   53.327058] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 3 at
offset 0xE76D
[   53.328136] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 4 at
offset 0xE9A9
[   53.328140] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table at
offset 0xEA0E
[   53.348146] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: 0xEA0E: Condition still not
met after 20ms, skipping following opcodes
[   53.366853] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: 1 available performance
level(s)
[   53.366858] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: 3: core 500MHz shader 1250MHz
memory 500MHz voltage 1100mV fanspeed 100%
[   53.366873] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: c: core 500MHz shader 1250MHz
memory 499MHz voltage 1100mV
[   53.368881] [TTM] Zone  kernel: Available graphics memory: 1543414
kiB.
[   53.368884] [TTM] Initializing pool allocator.
[   53.368894] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: Detected 768MiB VRAM
[   53.372117] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: 512 MiB GART (aperture)
[   53.397649] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1
(10.10.2010).
[   53.397652] [drm] No driver support for vblank timestamp query.
[   53.656361] [drm] nouveau :04:00.0: allocated 1680x1050 fb:
0x31, bo 8800b1df9400
[   53.656475] fbcon: nouveaufb (fb0) is primary device
[   53.656688] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 210x65
[   53.656694] fb0: nouveaufb frame buffer device
[   53.656696] drm: registered panic notifier
[   53.656703] [drm] Initialized nouveau 0.0.16 20090420 for
:04:00.0 on minor 0
[   56.018019] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[  112.967128] 2:2:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x4
[  113.975124] 2:3:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x83
[  115.031128] 2:3:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x83
[  116.041124] 2:2:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x4
[  117.054141] 2:3:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x83
[  123.675318] process `skype' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT
[  243.059920] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1
device(s).
[  243.059923] NVRM: This can occur when a driver such as nouveau,
rivafb,
[  243.059924] NVRM: nvidiafb, or rivatv was loaded and obtained
ownership of
[  243.059925] NVRM: the NVIDIA device(s).
[  243.059927] NVRM: Try unloading the conflicting kernel module (and/or
[  243.059928] NVRM: reconfigure your kernel without the conflicting
[  243.059929] NVRM: driver(s)), then try loading the NVIDIA kernel
module
[  243.059929] NVRM: again.
[  243.059931] NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter probed!
[  566.999504] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1
device(s).
[  566.999507] NVRM: This can occur when a driver such as nouveau,
rivafb,
[  566.999508] NVRM: nvidiafb, or rivatv was loaded and obtained
ownership of
[  566.999509] NVRM: the NVIDIA device(s).
[  566.999511] NVRM: Try unloading the conflicting kernel module (and/or
[  566.999512] NVRM: reconfigure your kernel without the conflicting
[  566.999512] NVRM: driver(s)), then try loading the NVIDIA kernel
module
[  566.999513] NVRM: again.
[  566.999515] NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter probed!

Thx,
R.Fox




Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread EatDirt

On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:

Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
loaded.



+1
Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add

nokmsboot

in the boot arguments?

chris.



Re: [Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?

2012-03-02 Thread Barry Jackson

On 02/03/12 06:17, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:

On Friday 02 March 2012 06:52, Charles A Edwards wrote:

Did you look at COPYING?


I did, yes.


As a header above the GPLv2 license:


And in the AUTHORS file it is written that the rest of the program is written 
by Nicholas Harbour of the DoD (Department of Defence) Computer Forensics Lab. 
E.G. the US Government.
Meaning, it is copyrighted by the US government. But there is no copyright 
/protection/ on the software, because it is the US government which holds the 
copyrights.

I tend to agree, there should be no restriction on distribution, only a 
possible question over it's use maybe in the USA. But that is down to 
users to decide, just as with tainted etc.


I have corrected the GPL version - thanks - no idea how that happened ;)

I will await more comments.



[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Sander Lepik

Hey!

According to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development we are 
going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will 
be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And 
weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.


Such dates should be announced in advance.

--
Sander



Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Kamil Rytarowski

On 02.03.2012 14:52, Sander Lepik wrote:

Hey!

According to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development we are 
going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will 
be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And 
weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.


Such dates should be announced in advance.
--
Sander

Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?


Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Oliver Burger

Am 02.03.2012 15:03, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:

On 02.03.2012 14:52, Sander Lepik wrote:

Hey!

According to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development we are
going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will
be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And
weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.

Such dates should be announced in advance.
--
Sander

Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?
Last year it was at the end of the packager meeting, meaning something 
between 21.00 UTC and 21.30 UTC.


And please people, it was announced as we did announce the whole 
development planing months ago, didn't we?


Oliver


Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Anssi Hannula
02.03.2012 16:07, Oliver Burger kirjoitti:
> Am 02.03.2012 15:03, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
>> On 02.03.2012 14:52, Sander Lepik wrote:
>>> Hey!
>>>
>>> According to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development we are
>>> going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will
>>> be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And
>>> weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.
>>>
>>> Such dates should be announced in advance.
>>> -- 
>>> Sander
>> Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?
> Last year it was at the end of the packager meeting, meaning something
> between 21.00 UTC and 21.30 UTC.
> 
> And please people, it was announced as we did announce the whole
> development planing months ago, didn't we?

Yes, I think Sander just meant there should be a reminder (which he now
did).

-- 
Anssi Hannula


Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 14:07, Oliver Burger  wrote:
> Am 02.03.2012 15:03, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
>
>> On 02.03.2012 14:52, Sander Lepik wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey!
>>>
>>> According to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development we are
>>> going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will
>>> be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And
>>> weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.
>>>
>>> Such dates should be announced in advance.
>>> --
>>> Sander
>>
>> Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?
>
> Last year it was at the end of the packager meeting, meaning something
> between 21.00 UTC and 21.30 UTC.
>
> And please people, it was announced as we did announce the whole development
> planing months ago, didn't we?

And I saw it reminded in several places recently (like in some mail
before the beta)


Re: [Mageia-dev] executable libraries

2012-03-02 Thread Anssi Hannula
02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
> [...]
>>> does this mean debug info fails for these?
>>
>> I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff
>> works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction and thus
>> -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with non-executable
>> shared libs.
> 
> in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we don't 
> fail some libraries debug and strip
> 

Possibly.

Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared libs:
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-runtime

"Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
usually results in a core dump."

-- 
Anssi Hannula


Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 14:21, Pascal Terjan  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 14:07, Oliver Burger  wrote:
>> Am 02.03.2012 15:03, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
>>
>>> On 02.03.2012 14:52, Sander Lepik wrote:

 Hey!

 According to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development we are
 going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will
 be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And
 weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.

 Such dates should be announced in advance.
 --
 Sander
>>>
>>> Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?
>>
>> Last year it was at the end of the packager meeting, meaning something
>> between 21.00 UTC and 21.30 UTC.
>>
>> And please people, it was announced as we did announce the whole development
>> planing months ago, didn't we?
>
> And I saw it reminded in several places recently (like in some mail
> before the beta)

https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-February/011914.html


Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/2 Oliver Burger :
> Am 02.03.2012 15:03, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
>
>> On 02.03.2012 14:52, Sander Lepik wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey!
>>>
>>> According to https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development we are
>>> going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will
>>> be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And
>>> weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.
>>>
>>> Such dates should be announced in advance.
>>> --
>>> Sander
>>
>> Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?
>
> Last year it was at the end of the packager meeting, meaning something
> between 21.00 UTC and 21.30 UTC.
>
> And please people, it was announced as we did announce the whole development
> planing months ago, didn't we?
>

Back in my school days when we had to do a home work project of 1
month our teacher used to remind us the day before scheduled deadline
- for people like me it meant to start working on the project!

Some people may be like me...

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Friday 02 March 2012 15:31, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> Back in my school days when we had to do a home work project of 1
> month our teacher used to remind us the day before scheduled deadline
> - for people like me it meant to start working on the project!
> 
> Some people may be like me...

Maybe we should have a policy on when to remind developers on version freezes.
Say, one or two weeks before the freeze, so they get a chance to submit final 
changes.

Or do we have such a policy already?

-- 
Johnny A. Solbu
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Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/2 EatDirt :
> On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
>>
>> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
>> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
>> loaded.
>>
>
> +1
> Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
>
> nokmsboot
>
> in the boot arguments?

Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to "nouveau").
Re-changed the display driver to "nvidia" and added nokmsboot to the
boot args, next boot same pb again.

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Robert Fox
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 16:44 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> 2012/3/2 EatDirt :
> > On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
> >>
> >> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
> >> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
> >> loaded.
> >>
> >
> > +1
> > Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
> >
> > nokmsboot
> >
> > in the boot arguments?
> 
> Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to "nouveau").
> Re-changed the display driver to "nvidia" and added nokmsboot to the
> boot args, next boot same pb again.
> 

I will file a bug report . . .





Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Backlund
02.03.2012 18:18, Robert Fox skrev:
> On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 16:44 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
>> 2012/3/2 EatDirt :
>>> On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:

 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.

>>>
>>> +1
>>> Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
>>>
>>> nokmsboot
>>>
>>> in the boot arguments?
>>
>> Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to "nouveau").
>> Re-changed the display driver to "nvidia" and added nokmsboot to the
>> boot args, next boot same pb again.
>>
> 
> I will file a bug report . . .
> 

No need, there is already a report...
And I'm looking into it...

--
Thomas





Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Bertaux Xavier
Le 02/03/2012 16:44, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
> 2012/3/2 EatDirt :
>> On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
>>> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
>>> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
>>> loaded.
>>>
>> +1
>> Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
>>
>> nokmsboot
>>
>> in the boot arguments?
> Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to "nouveau").
> Re-changed the display driver to "nvidia" and added nokmsboot to the
> boot args, next boot same pb again.
+1

Xavier
>


[Mageia-dev] udisks not running?

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
In bug #4635 I described how wifi keeps connecting/disconnecting
continuously - by dmesg I found out that it seems to be related to
udisks (pls don't ask me how it may be related).

Today I booted into that same Beta1 installation and wifi behaved
correctly (coming up, staying up). A check with ping proved that
internet was accessibly.

Then I did a 'urpmi --auto-update' which failed with the message, that
"service udisks (udisks-daemon) is not running or not ready".

If my assumption in the first line of this mail is correct, then not
having udisks running brings stable wifi connection but prevents me
from using urpmi, udisks running lets me use urpmi (via cable
connection) but not wifi.

Sorry for all the assumptions - without more technical info I did not
bring this to bugzilla.

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Bertaux Xavier
and I think both nvidia and fglrx tickets are the same problem

Xavier

Le 02/03/2012 17:27, Bertaux Xavier a écrit :
> Le 02/03/2012 16:44, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
>> 2012/3/2 EatDirt :
>>> On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.

>>> +1
>>> Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
>>>
>>> nokmsboot
>>>
>>> in the boot arguments?
>> Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to "nouveau").
>> Re-changed the display driver to "nvidia" and added nokmsboot to the
>> boot args, next boot same pb again.
> +1
>
> Xavier


Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread zezinho
Le vendredi 2 mars 2012 16:06:48, Johnny A. Solbu a écrit :
> Maybe we should have a policy on when to remind developers on version
> freezes. Say, one or two weeks before the freeze, so they get a chance to
> submit final changes.
> 
> Or do we have such a policy already?

And then a policy on when to update the policy?


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Barry Jackson

On 02/03/12 16:31, Bertaux Xavier wrote:

and I think both nvidia and fglrx tickets are the same problem

Xavier

Le 02/03/2012 17:27, Bertaux Xavier a écrit :

Le 02/03/2012 16:44, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :

2012/3/2 EatDirt:

On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:

Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
loaded.


+1
Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add

nokmsboot

in the boot arguments?

Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to "nouveau").
Re-changed the display driver to "nvidia" and added nokmsboot to the
boot args, next boot same pb again.

+1

Xavier


IIANM this is now the default behavior when the x11-server version is 
updated to a version not supported by the current proprietary nvidia driver.

It avoids a boot failure which would otherwise be the scenario.

Barry


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/2 Barry Jackson :
> On 02/03/12 16:31, Bertaux Xavier wrote:
>>
>> and I think both nvidia and fglrx tickets are the same problem
>>
>> Xavier
>>
>> Le 02/03/2012 17:27, Bertaux Xavier a écrit :
>>>
>>> Le 02/03/2012 16:44, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :

 2012/3/2 EatDirt:
>
> On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
>>
>> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system
>> which
>> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
>> loaded.
>>
> +1
> Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
>
> nokmsboot
>
> in the boot arguments?

 Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to
 "nouveau").
 Re-changed the display driver to "nvidia" and added nokmsboot to the
 boot args, next boot same pb again.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Xavier
>>
>>
> IIANM this is now the default behavior when the x11-server version is
> updated to a version not supported by the current proprietary nvidia driver.
> It avoids a boot failure which would otherwise be the scenario.

Reasonable behavior, so to avoid this the x11-server should always
match the current proprietary driver. In other words: either one
whould be fixed with coming updates.

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornath :
> whould be fixed with coming updates.

should be fixed
Sorry.

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] udisks not running?

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornath :
> In bug #4635 I described how wifi keeps connecting/disconnecting
> continuously - by dmesg I found out that it seems to be related to
> udisks (pls don't ask me how it may be related).
>
> Today I booted into that same Beta1 installation and wifi behaved
> correctly (coming up, staying up). A check with ping proved that
> internet was accessibly.
>
> Then I did a 'urpmi --auto-update' which failed with the message, that
> "service udisks (udisks-daemon) is not running or not ready".
>
> If my assumption in the first line of this mail is correct, then not
> having udisks running brings stable wifi connection but prevents me
> from using urpmi, udisks running lets me use urpmi (via cable
> connection) but not wifi.
>
> Sorry for all the assumptions - without more technical info I did not
> bring this to bugzilla.

Sorry for this - it was an assumprion and a wrong one.

I forgot to remove the cdrom media from urpmi's list, so urpmi wanted
to read the cdrom but couldn't.

Pls forget this dumb one

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 04:20:53PM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
> Yes, I think Sander just meant there should be a reminder (which he now
> did).

GNOME has some really crappy schedule related scripts. One of them deals
with sending reminder emails:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/releng/tree/tools/schedule/

Everything in GNOME revolves around weeks, and the scripts assume that
things always happen on a Mon. Still, could be useful.

The reminders go to release-team, who then use it as a template to mail
the developers (automatic mails are often ignored, we try and make
things a bit more personal).

Example reminder mail:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2012-March/msg3.html

-- 
Regards,
Olav


Re: [Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.

2012-03-02 Thread Anssi Hannula
01.03.2012 21:21, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
> Hi,
> 
> Recently (last couple days) I've been seeing this kind of error/debug
> when running rpm manually from the command line:
> 
> Freeing read locks for locker 0x809: 23048/140698330855168
> 
> It's generally repeated over and over.
> 
> Anyone else see this?

No, but I've just seen the below.


"Muistin varaaminen ei onnistu" ~= "Unable to allocate memory"
"Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata" ~= "Unable to open rpmdb"

> $ free
>  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
> Mem:   80388087899056 139752  0  373561002064
> -/+ buffers/cache:68596361179172
> Swap:  838860437314204657184

Should be enough, no?

[... console scrollback was completely filled with these lines ...]
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: indeksin Group avaus db4:llä ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen ei
onnistu (12)
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: indeksin Triggername avaus db4:llä ei onnistu - Muistin
varaaminen ei onnistu (12)
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: indeksin Dirnames avaus db4:llä ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen
ei onnistu (12)
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: indeksin Installtid avaus db4:llä ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen
ei onnistu (12)
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: indeksin Sigmd5 avaus db4:llä ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen ei
onnistu (12)
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: indeksin Sha1header avaus db4:llä ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen
ei onnistu (12)



http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/fglrx-kernel-desktop-latest-8.930-1.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm

http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/nvidia-current-kernel-3.2.9-desktop-1.mga2-290.10-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm


http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/fglrx-control-center-8.930-2.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm


http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/nvidia-current-kernel-desktop-latest-290.10-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm


http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/x11-driver-video-fglrx-8.930-2.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm


http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/nvidia173-kernel-desktop-latest-173.14.31-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm

virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries


virhe: indeksin Packages avaus db4:llä ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen
ei onnistu (12)
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata

http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/tainted/release/vlc-plugin-libnotify-2.0.0-1.mga2.tainted.x86_64.rpm

http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/tainted/release/vlc-2.0.0-1.mga2.tainted.x86_64.rpm

virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries


virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
virhe: 

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Backlund
02.03.2012 20:17, Anssi Hannula skrev:
> 01.03.2012 21:21, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Recently (last couple days) I've been seeing this kind of error/debug
>> when running rpm manually from the command line:
>>
>> Freeing read locks for locker 0x809: 23048/140698330855168
>>
>> It's generally repeated over and over.
>>
>> Anyone else see this?
> 
> No, but I've just seen the below.
> 
> 
> "Muistin varaaminen ei onnistu" ~= "Unable to allocate memory"
> "Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata" ~= "Unable to open rpmdb"
> 
>> $ free
>>  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
>> Mem:   80388087899056 139752  0  373561002064
>> -/+ buffers/cache:68596361179172
>> Swap:  838860437314204657184
> 
> Should be enough, no?
> 
> [... console scrollback was completely filled with these lines ...]
> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
> virhe: indeksin Group avaus db4:llä ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen ei
> onnistu (12)

I wonder, could it be because of:

tv  1:4.9.1.2-17.mga2:
+ Revision: 215717
- patch 5000: switch back to former, much smaller BDB memory pool size
(RhBug:752897)



[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel

2012-03-02 Thread Kamil Rytarowski

Hello!

Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish 
community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people can't 
switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.


Re: [Mageia-dev] executable libraries

2012-03-02 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Den 23:05 1. mars 2012 skrev Anssi Hannula  følgende:
> 02.03.2012 00:03, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
>> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 22:54:59 schreef Anssi Hannula:
>>> 01.03.2012 23:36, Pascal Terjan kirjoitti:
 I would say it doesn't matter and would not spend any time on it
>>>
>>> /usr/lib/rpm/mageia/find-debuginfo.sh:
>>>
>>> # Strip ELF binaries
>>> find "$RPM_BUILD_ROOT" ! -path "${debugdir}/*.debug" -type f \
>>>                      \( -perm -0100 -or -perm -0010 -or -perm -0001 \) \
>>>                     ^
>>>                      -print |
>>> file -N -f - | sed -n -e 's/^\(.*\):[   ]*.*ELF.*, not stripped/\1/p' |
>>> xargs --no-run-if-empty stat -c '%h %D_%i %n' |
>>> while read nlinks inum f; do
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like debug packages and/or stripping won't work for non-executable
>>> shared libraries.
>>
>> hmm, there's a '!' there, so isn't it reverse then?
>
> It reverses the -path rule only.
>
>> but if this only works with executable libraries, (kind of weird imho), there
>> are at least 34 libraries on my system not marked as executable...
>>
>> does this mean debug info fails for these?
>
> I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff
> works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction and thus
> -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with non-executable
> shared libs.
If using the internal dependency generator, rpm won't generate dependencies for
the library either btw.

I've just implemented a rpmlint shared-lib-not-executable check :
http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/packages/cooker/rpmlint/current/SOURCES/rpmlint-1.4-shared-lib-not-executable.patch?view=log

--
Regards,
Per Øyvind


Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Backlund
02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:
> Hello!
> 
> Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish 
> community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people can't 
> switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.
> 

NO.

As stated a million times before...

qt3 is obsolete

The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB

Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.

--
Thomas



Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Anssi Hannula
02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
> loaded.

Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
compressed proprietary driver modules properly.

-- 
Anssi Hannula


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/2 Anssi Hannula :
> 02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
>> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
>> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
>> loaded.
>
> Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
> compressed proprietary driver modules properly.

Which means, as soon as we get the new harddrake version in updates
the issue is (should be) gone?

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Dimitri Jakov
Besides... GNOME 3.4 is going to be released on March 28 - does that
mean that we won't be able to ship it with Mageia 2?

Mitya



Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Anssi Hannula
02.03.2012 21:06, Wolfgang Bornath kirjoitti:
> 2012/3/2 Anssi Hannula :
>> 02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
>>> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
>>> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
>>> loaded.
>>
>> Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
>> compressed proprietary driver modules properly.
> 
> Which means, as soon as we get the new harddrake version in updates
> the issue is (should be) gone?

Yes, except that you have to switch back to the proprietary driver
yourself with XFdrake.

-- 
Anssi Hannula


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Backlund
02.03.2012 21:06, Wolfgang Bornath skrev:
> 2012/3/2 Anssi Hannula :
>> 02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
>>> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
>>> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
>>> loaded.
>>
>> Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
>> compressed proprietary driver modules properly.
> 
> Which means, as soon as we get the new harddrake version in updates
> the issue is (should be) gone?
> 

AFAIK you need to reconfigure your system to use the proprietary modules...

--
Thomas



Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Backlund
02.03.2012 21:08, Dimitri Jakov skrev:
> Besides... GNOME 3.4 is going to be released on March 28 - does that

Yes we know...

> mean that we won't be able to ship it with Mageia 2?
> 

Nope, we have that as an exception to the freeze...
(that's why we already run 3.3.x)

we will have Gnome 3.4.x and KDE 4.8.x in Mageia 2

--
Thomas




Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Oliver Burger

Am 02.03.2012 20:08, schrieb Dimitri Jakov:

Besides... GNOME 3.4 is going to be released on March 28 - does that
mean that we won't be able to ship it with Mageia 2?

No, we explicitely pushed the final release date from April (as planned 
originally) to May, so we could have GNOME 3.4.

In addition, there are always exceptions to every rule.

Oliver


Re: [Mageia-dev] qt3-devel

2012-03-02 Thread Kamil Rytarowski

On 02.03.2012 19:55, Thomas Backlund wrote:

02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:

Hello!

Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish
community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people can't
switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.


NO.

As stated a million times before...

qt3 is obsolete

The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB

Sad..


Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.
Actually this is not true. One of our Mageia users (who introduced 
Mageia on a dozen of machines) can't switch the next dozen because of 
lacking Rivendell Radio Broadcasting software ( 
http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml ), the other can't use his 
favourite qt3 apps, and a few others (including RH employee) are forced 
to use Fedora or KDE4.


If the "obsolete" part is the only reason, then it's not too strong.. 
the package is maintained and there is *upstream*.


As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance 
of Qt3.


This means we are the new "upstream" location for up-to-date Qt3 
source code.
Since there have been no updates or stable releases from 
Nokia/Trolltech in many years and there are literally hundreds patches 
floating around, there was a significant need for a central location.
By maintaining Qt3 it will allow us to continue to improve Qt3 
outside the scope of Trinity. It will also provide a central location 
for Linux distributions to build packages from, and contributers to 
submit code to.
For obvious reasons any Qt3 version released by this project is 
licensed under the GPL only; holders of Trolltech Qt licenses may not 
use these versions in their proprietary projects.


http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3

Trinity is currently packaged for Mandriva, OpenSUSE and available for 
the main distros.


--
Thomas


BTW. Your statement trigged outcry to start forking Mga :)


Re: [Mageia-dev] Versions freeze

2012-03-02 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 20:16:11 schreef Thomas Backlund:
> 02.03.2012 21:08, Dimitri Jakov skrev:
> > Besides... GNOME 3.4 is going to be released on March 28 - does that
> 
> Yes we know...
> 
> > mean that we won't be able to ship it with Mageia 2?
> 
> Nope, we have that as an exception to the freeze...
> (that's why we already run 3.3.x)
> 
> we will have Gnome 3.4.x and KDE 4.8.x in Mageia 2

also, I hope mariadb-5.5.x final (right now we have 5.5.20 which is the alpha 
version; beta will come quite soon, then the rc and finals follow pretty fast 
and these only contain bugfixes)


Re: [Mageia-dev] executable libraries

2012-03-02 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 15:22:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
> 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
> > Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
> > [...]
> > 
> >>> does this mean debug info fails for these?
> >> 
> >> I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff
> >> works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction and thus
> >> -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with non-executable
> >> shared libs.
> > 
> > in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we
> > don't fail some libraries debug and strip
> 
> Possibly.
> 
> Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared
> libs:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-ru
> ntime
> 
> "Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
> linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
> usually results in a core dump."

which is sort of strange, since libc is actually executable by design.

i see where they are coming from

but i guess the first part of this is, why is there a find with executable 
restrictions for the code relating to stripped binaries and debug?

is it because it's also used for real executables?


Re: [Mageia-dev] executable libraries

2012-03-02 Thread Anssi Hannula
02.03.2012 21:57, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 15:22:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
>> 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
>>> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
>>> [...]
>>>
> does this mean debug info fails for these?

 I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff
 works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction and thus
 -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with non-executable
 shared libs.
>>>
>>> in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we
>>> don't fail some libraries debug and strip
>>
>> Possibly.
>>
>> Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared
>> libs:
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-ru
>> ntime
>>
>> "Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
>> linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
>> usually results in a core dump."
> 
> which is sort of strange, since libc is actually executable by design.
> 
> i see where they are coming from
> 
> but i guess the first part of this is, why is there a find with executable 
> restrictions for the code relating to stripped binaries and debug?
> 
> is it because it's also used for real executables?

I guess it is there just to speed up the process, otherwise it would
have to run 'file' for every file in the package (and many packages have
lots of files).

-- 
Anssi Hannula


[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: 2012/03/07

2012-03-02 Thread Anne nicolas
What is a version freeze?
Let's take an example: abiword-2.9.2-5.mga2.src.rpm
2.9.2 is version
-5 is release
Version freeze happens when no more version changes are allowed (
unless exception ).

On Mageia 2 planning, it will happen on 7th of march. That's in 5
days, for people that do not look their calendar.

Reasons for a freeze
-
We start the freeze in order to focus now on fixing pending bugs and
stabilize general state of distribution in order to prepare the
release of Mageia 2 on 3rd of may. The version freeze will be followed
by a release freeze on 7th of april, and a freeze for release. The
main goal is that bugs are caused by general changes, so to reduce
bugs count, we should focus on just fixing them. It avoids edge
effects because of last minute updates.

What it changes in practice

if a package is a different version from the previous one, youri ( our
package upload tool ) will block the upload, unless you are in a
special group ( see end of mail for the list ).  So while non version
change can be uploaded without problem ( so people can still add
patches, etc ), version changes should be submitted by autorized
person.

How to ask for an exception
-
- First, try to build the rpm locally, test it, see if it installs and
works fine.
Check that the changes are minimal enough, on Provides and Requires
tags, on file location, etc
- Do not commit in the main branch for now ( you can use branch if you want )
- If unsure, please ask first for a freeze break on mageia-dev, with
reasons. Please keep in mind that only bugfixes should be accepted.
- Once the break is accepted, please commit and then ask for submitting

Criteria for accepting updates
--
Since we aim for stability, the criteria would be near the ones of
updates. For example, if this is upgrade to a stable release when the
rc was here ( like for gnome ), this should be ok. If that fixes an
important bugfix, or a security issue this should be ok, provided
there is not much breakage, and that it doesn't require to rebuild
half of the distribution.

Please explain clearly if there is an important bug, give url, etc.

While we should have discussed this before a little bit more ( as said
in meeting ), we will take the following list for now, with people who
should be both avliable and experienced enough.

List of authorized people to submit new version
- misc
- ennael
- tmb
- anssi
- boklm

http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2012/mageia-dev.2012-02-15-20.13.log.html#l-75

Cheers

ennael & misc


Re: [Mageia-dev] executable libraries

2012-03-02 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 21:29:05 schreef Anssi Hannula:
> 02.03.2012 21:57, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
> > Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 15:22:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
> >> 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
> >>> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
> >>> [...]
> >>> 
> > does this mean debug info fails for these?
>  
>  I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping
>  stuff works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction
>  and thus -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with
>  non-executable shared libs.
> >>> 
> >>> in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we
> >>> don't fail some libraries debug and strip
> >> 
> >> Possibly.
> >> 
> >> Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared
> >> libs:
> >> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-
> >> ru ntime
> >> 
> >> "Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
> >> linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
> >> usually results in a core dump."
> > 
> > which is sort of strange, since libc is actually executable by design.
> > 
> > i see where they are coming from
> > 
> > but i guess the first part of this is, why is there a find with
> > executable restrictions for the code relating to stripped binaries and
> > debug?
> > 
> > is it because it's also used for real executables?
> 
> I guess it is there just to speed up the process, otherwise it would
> have to run 'file' for every file in the package (and many packages have
> lots of files).

still, it seems kind of weird, there are rpmlint checks for unstripped 
libraries, but i do have 34 libraries not marked as executable, while the 
stripping+ debug seems to target only executables?

i wonder if we should make another check library unset as executable or even 
check what happened with these libraries not marked as executable?


Re: [Mageia-dev] executable libraries

2012-03-02 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Den 21:51 2. mars 2012 skrev Maarten Vanraes  følgende:
> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 21:29:05 schreef Anssi Hannula:
>> 02.03.2012 21:57, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
>> > Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 15:22:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
>> >> 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
>> >>> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
>> >>> [...]
>> >>>
>> > does this mean debug info fails for these?
>> 
>>  I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping
>>  stuff works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction
>>  and thus -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with
>>  non-executable shared libs.
>> >>>
>> >>> in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we
>> >>> don't fail some libraries debug and strip
>> >>
>> >> Possibly.
>> >>
>> >> Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared
>> >> libs:
>> >> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-
>> >> ru ntime
>> >>
>> >> "Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
>> >> linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
>> >> usually results in a core dump."
>> >
>> > which is sort of strange, since libc is actually executable by design.
>> >
>> > i see where they are coming from
>> >
>> > but i guess the first part of this is, why is there a find with
>> > executable restrictions for the code relating to stripped binaries and
>> > debug?
>> >
>> > is it because it's also used for real executables?
>>
>> I guess it is there just to speed up the process, otherwise it would
>> have to run 'file' for every file in the package (and many packages have
>> lots of files).
>
> still, it seems kind of weird, there are rpmlint checks for unstripped
> libraries, but i do have 34 libraries not marked as executable, while the
> stripping+ debug seems to target only executables?
>
> i wonder if we should make another check library unset as executable or even
> check what happened with these libraries not marked as executable?
I posted a link to a rpmlint patch implementing such a check to this thread two
hours ago.. :p

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Per Øyvind


Re: [Mageia-dev] Version freeze: 2012/03/07

2012-03-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 09:39:59PM +0100, Anne nicolas wrote:
> On Mageia 2 planning, it will happen on 7th of march. That's in 5
> days, for people that do not look their calendar.

What exact time?

I have a bot to automatically upload new ftp.gnome.org packages. I won't
be around for a bit, so I need to teach it not to do anything after a
certain date and time.

For now, I'll teach it 2012-03-07 23:59 UTC.

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Olav


[Mageia-dev] Updating the lm_sensors package with a new "sensors-detect" script without a new lm_sensors version

2012-03-02 Thread Jeff Robins
Hello,

Bug 4095 ( https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4095) asks that we
update the version of the "sensors-detect" script in the lm_sensors
package.

I have checked with the lm_sensors people (Jean Delvare) and this
should be safe.  They are working on a new version of the lm_sensors
code, but were
"delayed by a last minute bug (not in sensors-detect.)"

I would normally prefer to wait for the new version, but Jean is busy
with other issues at the moment and I know we're coming up on version
freeze.

Any thoughts?

Thank you,

Jeff


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/2 Thomas Backlund :
> 02.03.2012 21:06, Wolfgang Bornath skrev:
>> 2012/3/2 Anssi Hannula :
>>> 02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.
>>>
>>> Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
>>> compressed proprietary driver modules properly.
>>
>> Which means, as soon as we get the new harddrake version in updates
>> the issue is (should be) gone?
>>
>
> AFAIK you need to reconfigure your system to use the proprietary modules...

Yes, that's to be expected anyway. Thx

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wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Barry Jackson

On 02/03/12 16:53, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornath:

whould be fixed with coming updates.


should be fixed
Sorry.

Seems this was not the problem for you, but my FX series card has had no 
nvidia available since x11 was updated before Christmas.

I think I need a new graphic card :(


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/3 Barry Jackson :
> On 02/03/12 16:53, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
>>
>> 2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornath:
>>>
>>> whould be fixed with coming updates.
>>
>>
>> should be fixed
>> Sorry.
>>
> Seems this was not the problem for you, but my FX series card has had no
> nvidia available since x11 was updated before Christmas.
> I think I need a new graphic card :(

Well, I don't know, but after last update tonight (mirror sync status
23:01 Paris time) the complete system which was working fine is now
hosed anyway.

1. Nouveau driver still there (although I tried with XFdrake to get
the nvidia re-installed), but that did not make my system unusable
before
2. wifi connection totally lost (not possible to get a connection,
whichever way I tried)
3. After system start the system now displays a message that it can
not start Gnome 3 because my graphic system is possibly not able to
run in normal Gnome 3, so it starts in a somehow "compatibility mode".
/etc/X11/xorg.conf shows that the nouveau driver is working, which
never had problems with Gnome 3.
4. I switched to tty2, and was presented with my keyboard now writing
in black! Trying to write 'asdf' does not show any character but
hitting enter returns 'asdf: command not found"

Points 2, 3, 4 occurred at reboot after the update.
I'll call it a day...

-- 
wobo


[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues

2012-03-02 Thread Barry Jackson
I have been working on oce, but need help deciding on where to put it 
and with what license.

Oce is the OPENCascade Community Edition.
Earlier versions are/were packaged by Mdv and Fedora, and recently Deb 
has included it.
It seems from OPENCascade's own license literature to be LGPL-like with 
differences. (but rpmlint is not happy with that).
Fedora consider it non-free, but since all the source is available and 
redistributable I don't know why, so ignore my comment on line 1 of the 
spec.

There are links in the spec to license references.

Barry



[Mageia-dev] Problems with systemd and /media.

2012-03-02 Thread David W. Hodgins

Since systemd puts /media on tmpfs, specifically in
/lib/systemd/system/media.mount, it's causing problems on
upgrade of a system with fstab entries that have mount
points in /media.
https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3550

At present, we have an errata entry regarding this
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Base_system

Currently the bug is assigned to the installer, with the
idea that those fstab entries should be automatically
removed.

I've since been thinking, it might be better if either
systemd, or dracut could parse /etc/fstab, and automatically
recreate any mountpoints under /media.

Opinions?

Regards, Dave Hodgins


Re: [Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.

2012-03-02 Thread D.Morgan
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Thomas Backlund  wrote:
> 02.03.2012 20:17, Anssi Hannula skrev:
>> 01.03.2012 21:21, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Recently (last couple days) I've been seeing this kind of error/debug
>>> when running rpm manually from the command line:
>>>
>>> Freeing read locks for locker 0x809: 23048/140698330855168
>>>
>>> It's generally repeated over and over.
>>>
>>> Anyone else see this?
>>
>> No, but I've just seen the below.
>>
>>
>> "Muistin varaaminen ei onnistu" ~= "Unable to allocate memory"
>> "Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata" ~= "Unable to open rpmdb"
>>
>>> $ free
>>>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
>>> Mem:       8038808    7899056     139752          0      37356    1002064
>>> -/+ buffers/cache:    6859636    1179172
>>> Swap:      8388604    3731420    4657184
>>
>> Should be enough, no?
>>
>> [... console scrollback was completely filled with these lines ...]
>> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
>> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
>> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
>> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
>> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
>> virhe: indeksin Group avaus db4:llä ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen ei
>> onnistu (12)
>
> I wonder, could it be because of:
>
> tv  1:4.9.1.2-17.mga2:
> + Revision: 215717
> - patch 5000: switch back to former, much smaller BDB memory pool size
> (RhBug:752897)
>

i tried to remove it for testing purpose but we still have the issue.

Thierry do you see what may be the culprit for this ?


Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with systemd and /media.

2012-03-02 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 19:38 -0500, David W. Hodgins wrote:
[...]
> I've since been thinking, it might be better if either
> systemd, or dracut could parse /etc/fstab, and automatically
> recreate any mountpoints under /media.

+1

Or at worst comment them out, but not remove them - most users will have
clue how to create a uuid-based mount for example.

Liam


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