[Mageia-dev] Report on my update from 1

2012-03-31 Thread Pascal Terjan
I rsynced / of my machine to a chroot and tried to update to cauldron.
This is a machine which has been running cooker x86_64 since April 2005 and
was updated to Mageia 1.
It went mostly fine.

- pscs-tools + perl-pcsc-perl from Mandriva got removed due to new perl (I
pepared the packages but no svn currently)

- cups-drivers-foo2zjs was uninstalled due to missing /usr/bin/wish. So
did, printer-filters (because of cups-drivers-foo2zjs)

- While dracut was running, it displayed plenty of libkmod: index_mm_open:
major version check fail: 65537 instead of 2953311319

- /usr/bin/gnome-font-viewer, /usr/bin/gnome-thumbnail-font
and /usr/share/applications/gnome-font-viewer.desktop from
gnome-font-viewer-3.4.0-1.mga2.x86_64
conflicts with gnome-control-center-2.32.1-3.mga1.x86_64. I will fix it
when svn is reachable.


Given that this is a chroot I could not try to boot it.
I may try on / soon but don't want to take any risk given than I don't have
any monitor at home if something goes wrong :)


Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)

2012-03-31 Thread tux99-mga
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote:
>
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 9 Mar 2012, Thomas Backlund wrote:
> > 
> > > tux99-...@uridium.org skrev 8.3.2012 02:18:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I just tried Mageia 2 beta 1 on a Intel DN2800MT board hoping that it
> > > > would have framebuffer support for the GMA 3600, but the attached
> > > > monitor goes into standby (no signal) as soon as the frame buffer gets
> > > > activated during boot.
> > > >
> > > > As far as I understand there is frame buffer support in the 3.3 kernel
> > > > for the GMA 3600 so in theory it should work.
> > > >
> > > > Are you aware of this issue or should I do a bug report?
> > > 
> > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > There is a bug with Cedar Trail that got fixed upstream a few days after
> > > 3.3-rc6 was released, so the fix is not in our current 
> > > kernel-3.3.0-0.rc6.1.mga2, but it will be fixed in the next build.
> > 
> > Thanks, that's great, I will test the next build and then report back 
> > how that works with my Cedar Trail board.
> 
> Hi, I noticed a new kernel packages showed up in the cauldron repo 
> (3.3rc7) so I tried it immediately (reinstalled cauldron from scratch as 
> I had overwritten the previous install with other distro tests) using 
> the boot.iso image, but the video behaviour at boot is still the same, 
> the monitor still goes into no-signal standby as soon as the drm stuff 
> is started.

Just for future reference for anyone who might come across this thread 
in the ML archives facing the same issue:

I solved this, the GMA 3600 kernel DRM driver in 3.3.0 (as included in 
Mageia) always assumes a LVDS panel is present (as would be the case 
on netbooks but not on mini-ITX boards) and for some reason it defaults 
to a 1920x1080 panel.
To avoid this and therefore to be able to use the other video outputs 
(VGA, hdmi) at other resolutions the following kernel parameter needs to 
be appended on the grub kernel line:

video=LVDS-1:d

This will force disable the LVDS port and with that parameter Mageia 2 
works fine on a Cedarview Atom DN2800MT board.

This is a shortcoming of the kernel module (not specific to Mageia), 
Alan Cox is aware of it and I guess it will eventually be fixed.

For anyone interested the xorg.conf I used is here (the monitor 
section is specific to my monitor, hence will need adapting):
http://pastebin.com/X7mpEF3x

Also for anyone interested I have done some power draw measurements of 
the Intel DN2800MT Cedarview Atom board comparing Mageia 2 beta with 
some other distros (and Win 7), the results are here:

http://www.linuxtech.net/reviews/intel_DN2800MT_cedarview_atom_power_draw.html




Re: [Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions

2012-03-31 Thread Frank Griffin

On 03/31/2012 09:50 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:

'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 26/03/12 01:56 did gyre and gimble:

Sound volume keeps resetting to 1%

This shouldn't be handled by any KDE config but by PulseAudio.

Can you give any more info here?

I know too little about PA to know where to start.

The laptop has a built-in audio analog stereo and an RS780 HDMI Audio 
(Radeon HD 3000-3300 Series) Digital Stereo.  The analog is the only one 
that works at all, and it is the one that resets to 1%.


I can't swear what it is that causes the reset.  I'll test rebooting to 
eliminate that (very often the only time I reboot the laptop is when 
I've installed cauldron upgrades that recommend it), but if it's package 
installation, I don't know how to reproduce it.


Thanks for the response.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document

2012-03-31 Thread Oliver Burger
2012/3/31 Florian Hubold :
> Am 31.03.2012 12:50, schrieb Robert Fox:
>> On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 11:36 +0100, Donald Stewart wrote:
>>> On 31 March 2012 11:31, Pascal Terjan  wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:22, Robert Fox  wrote:
>
> On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
> the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . .  When I choose set up
> printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
> to add a PDF printer.  It was very helpful to have a generic PDF printer
> driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)
>
> Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.

 I think Gtk apps have had the Print to File choice in the list of printers
 for a few years
>>> Same for kde, well at least okular and gwenview and the kipi plugins.
>> I found that cups-pdf wasn't installed which explained why
>> system-config-printer didn't see a generic PDF printer.  Oddly enough,
>> LibreOffice sees it, but I can't print to it (don't get a dialog to save
>> to file) - but I found out when I "print to file" - it worked and made a
>> real small output (87k file)
>>
>> FYI -
>> R.Fox
>>
>>
>>
> I'm using simple-scan to scan directly to PDF, it works well,
> it's easy to use, also produces multi-page PDFs, just scan
> all the pages that you want sequentially and then save to
> PDF.

What about gscan2pdf? It can scan several pages into 1 pdf as well.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2

2012-03-31 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 31.03.2012 21:03, schrieb Florian Hubold:
> Am 31.03.2012 11:43, schrieb zezinho:
>> Em 31-03-2012 10:46, JA Magallón escreveu:
>>> BTW, how can I check if html5 has hardware support ?
>>>
>> CPU load?
>>
> Maybe you want to check 
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTc4Nw
> or
> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/web-browser-performance-standard-html5,3013-10.html
> and for a performance test http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/
> You should get 60+FPS as test result for the latter.
>
Ahh, forgot to tell, in Firefox you can check via about:support
scroll to the bottom, and there you'll see your current graphics
driver and the WebGL renderer.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2

2012-03-31 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 31.03.2012 11:43, schrieb zezinho:
> Em 31-03-2012 10:46, JA Magallón escreveu:
>> BTW, how can I check if html5 has hardware support ?
>>
> CPU load?
>
Maybe you want to check 
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTc4Nw
or
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/web-browser-performance-standard-html5,3013-10.html
and for a performance test http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/
You should get 60+FPS as test result for the latter.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document

2012-03-31 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 31.03.2012 12:50, schrieb Robert Fox:
> On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 11:36 +0100, Donald Stewart wrote:
>> On 31 March 2012 11:31, Pascal Terjan  wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:22, Robert Fox  wrote:

 On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
 the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . .  When I choose set up
 printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
 to add a PDF printer.  It was very helpful to have a generic PDF printer
 driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)

 Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.
>>>
>>> I think Gtk apps have had the Print to File choice in the list of printers
>>> for a few years
>> Same for kde, well at least okular and gwenview and the kipi plugins.
> I found that cups-pdf wasn't installed which explained why
> system-config-printer didn't see a generic PDF printer.  Oddly enough,
> LibreOffice sees it, but I can't print to it (don't get a dialog to save
> to file) - but I found out when I "print to file" - it worked and made a
> real small output (87k file)
>
> FYI -
> R.Fox
>
>
>
I'm using simple-scan to scan directly to PDF, it works well,
it's easy to use, also produces multi-page PDFs, just scan
all the pages that you want sequentially and then save to
PDF.


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push

2012-03-31 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 30.03.2012 11:41, schrieb Samuel Verschelde:
> Le mardi 27 mars 2012 21:10:04, Florian Hubold a écrit :
>> So if noone volunteers and ensures to keep it updated for stable distros,
>> i'm gonna drop it from cauldron next week, before it's too late.
>>
> What about adding it to task-obsolete and then if no maintainer is found for 
> Mageia 3 drop it completely?
>
> Samuel
>
Well, dropping it means obsoleting it. It can be revived at any later time
if someone feels up to it. Seems we mean the same thing, which was
documented by boklm at
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package
Feel free to have a look if the servers are back up again ;)


Re: [Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions

2012-03-31 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 26/03/12 01:56 did gyre and gimble:
> Sound volume keeps resetting to 1%

This shouldn't be handled by any KDE config but by PulseAudio.

Can you give any more info here?

Col

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Re: [Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions

2012-03-31 Thread Frank Griffin

On 03/31/2012 05:08 AM, Luc Menut wrote:

Le 26/03/2012 02:56, Frank Griffin a écrit :

I'm not sure if this is worth a bug report, but the incremental KDE
upgrades in cauldron have a bad habit of regressing changes to
configurations and preferences. With every major upgrade, the fact that
I've disabled the screensaver gets forgotten. Sound volume keeps
resetting to 1%. Changes I've made to konsole settings to patch the yet
unfixed bug that sets vertical terminal dimensions to the screen maximum
get undone.


Did you make these changes in ~/.kde4/share/config or in 
/var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/ ... ?




I made all of them using the GUI configuration tools.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document

2012-03-31 Thread Robert Fox
On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 11:36 +0100, Donald Stewart wrote:
> On 31 March 2012 11:31, Pascal Terjan  wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:22, Robert Fox  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
> >> the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . .  When I choose set up
> >> printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
> >> to add a PDF printer.  It was very helpful to have a generic PDF printer
> >> driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)
> >>
> >> Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.
> >
> >
> > I think Gtk apps have had the Print to File choice in the list of printers
> > for a few years
> 
> Same for kde, well at least okular and gwenview and the kipi plugins.

I found that cups-pdf wasn't installed which explained why
system-config-printer didn't see a generic PDF printer.  Oddly enough,
LibreOffice sees it, but I can't print to it (don't get a dialog to save
to file) - but I found out when I "print to file" - it worked and made a
real small output (87k file)

FYI -
R.Fox




Re: [Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document

2012-03-31 Thread Donald Stewart
On 31 March 2012 11:31, Pascal Terjan  wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:22, Robert Fox  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
>> the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . .  When I choose set up
>> printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
>> to add a PDF printer.  It was very helpful to have a generic PDF printer
>> driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)
>>
>> Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.
>
>
> I think Gtk apps have had the Print to File choice in the list of printers
> for a few years

Same for kde, well at least okular and gwenview and the kipi plugins.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document

2012-03-31 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:22, Robert Fox  wrote:

>
> On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
> the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . .  When I choose set up
> printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
> to add a PDF printer.  It was very helpful to have a generic PDF printer
> driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)
>
> Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.
>

I think Gtk apps have had the Print to File choice in the list of printers
for a few years


Re: [Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document

2012-03-31 Thread Robert Fox
On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 11:05 +0100, Pascal Terjan wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:59, Robert Fox  wrote:
> Just a quick question to the experts out there . . .
> 
> 
> This would probably be better on -discuss than -dev
>  
> I have an HP J5780 All-in-One device - and use the HP Device
> Manager
> software under Mageia -  When I scan a document into a PDF,
> the
> converted document is rather large (5MB) in comparison to the
> same
> document scanned under Windows 7 and the HP scan-to-PDF
> feature (465Kb)
> -  Just wanted to know why is this and can I influence how
> compressed or
> compact the PDF document is under Cauldron?
> 
> 
> Do you scan at the same resolution? 
> The best compression would be to use OCR to get text instead of images
> but I wouldn't trust it to be accurate
> 
> 
> I used to scan with "Acquire Images" or XSane and then paste
> the scanned
> graphic into a LibreOffice document and then create a PDF
> directly or
> use ps2pdf14 to convert a "print to file" postscript output to
> PDF
> (which results in a comparatively small PDF)
> 
> 
> Why not generating a PDF directly from XSane?

Thanks for the quick response - I posted to -dev only because I use only
Cauldron on my machines to help with testing, and I though -discuss was
more aimed at released versions (like Mageia 1)

On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . .  When I choose set up
printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
to add a PDF printer.  It was very helpful to have a generic PDF printer
driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)

Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.

R.Fox



Re: [Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document

2012-03-31 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:59, Robert Fox  wrote:

> Just a quick question to the experts out there . . .
>

This would probably be better on -discuss than -dev


> I have an HP J5780 All-in-One device - and use the HP Device Manager
> software under Mageia -  When I scan a document into a PDF, the
> converted document is rather large (5MB) in comparison to the same
> document scanned under Windows 7 and the HP scan-to-PDF feature (465Kb)
> -  Just wanted to know why is this and can I influence how compressed or
> compact the PDF document is under Cauldron?
>

Do you scan at the same resolution?
The best compression would be to use OCR to get text instead of images but
I wouldn't trust it to be accurate

I used to scan with "Acquire Images" or XSane and then paste the scanned
> graphic into a LibreOffice document and then create a PDF directly or
> use ps2pdf14 to convert a "print to file" postscript output to PDF
> (which results in a comparatively small PDF)
>

Why not generating a PDF directly from XSane?


[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document

2012-03-31 Thread Robert Fox
Just a quick question to the experts out there . . .

I have an HP J5780 All-in-One device - and use the HP Device Manager
software under Mageia -  When I scan a document into a PDF, the
converted document is rather large (5MB) in comparison to the same
document scanned under Windows 7 and the HP scan-to-PDF feature (465Kb)
-  Just wanted to know why is this and can I influence how compressed or
compact the PDF document is under Cauldron?

I used to scan with "Acquire Images" or XSane and then paste the scanned
graphic into a LibreOffice document and then create a PDF directly or
use ps2pdf14 to convert a "print to file" postscript output to PDF
(which results in a comparatively small PDF)

Any advice would be welcome . . 

Cheers,
R.Fox






Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2

2012-03-31 Thread zezinho

Em 31-03-2012 10:46, JA Magallón escreveu:

BTW, how can I check if html5 has hardware support ?


CPU load?


Re: [Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions

2012-03-31 Thread Luc Menut

Le 26/03/2012 02:56, Frank Griffin a écrit :

I'm not sure if this is worth a bug report, but the incremental KDE
upgrades in cauldron have a bad habit of regressing changes to
configurations and preferences. With every major upgrade, the fact that
I've disabled the screensaver gets forgotten. Sound volume keeps
resetting to 1%. Changes I've made to konsole settings to patch the yet
unfixed bug that sets vertical terminal dimensions to the screen maximum
get undone.


Did you make these changes in ~/.kde4/share/config or in 
/var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/ ... ?



--
Luc Menut


Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2

2012-03-31 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 31 maart 2012 10:46:43 schreef JA Magallón:
> On 03/31/2012 08:43 AM, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
> > Στις 31/03/2012 08:38:19 γράψατε:
> >> Στις 31/03/2012 02:38:24 JA Magallón γράψατε:
> >>> And, btw, to get hw video decoding I had to write a file in
> >>> /etc/adobe/mms.cfg with
> >>> 
> >>> EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
> >> 
> >> Thanks, this solved the problem for me
> > 
> > i had to reverse to disable hw acceleration because the embedded youtube
> > videos in konqueror are invisible (in youtube it is ok)
> 
> Yep, and flash also behaves mch more unstable, I'm having hangs I
> has never seen before.
> 
> Crappy flash...
> 
> BTW, how can I check if html5 has hardware support ?

depending on the browser, but i think most browsers use native stuff, therefor 
if you have hw support, it's likely to be working in html5 as well


Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2

2012-03-31 Thread JA Magallón

On 03/31/2012 08:43 AM, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:

Στις 31/03/2012 08:38:19 γράψατε:

Στις 31/03/2012 02:38:24 JA Magallón γράψατε:

And, btw, to get hw video decoding I had to write a file in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
with

EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1


Thanks, this solved the problem for me





i had to reverse to disable hw acceleration because the embedded youtube videos 
in konqueror are invisible (in youtube it is ok)



Yep, and flash also behaves mch more unstable, I'm having hangs I
has never seen before.

Crappy flash...

BTW, how can I check if html5 has hardware support ?

--
J.A. Magallon \   Winter is coming...