[Mageia-dev] Can't win - or, best of both worlds . . .!
There has been much discussion over the KDE NetApplet and the lack of reliability with it - on my laptop (Thinkpad X220) it crashes regularly and I can't get it to switch between WWAN0 and WLAN0 without failing. Strangely, under Gnome - the Gnome network manager works flawlessly. I can easily start and stop the WiFi or UMTS connection without problems. On the other hand, I use Evolution as my main e-mail client (since many years now) - oddly, when I am in Gnome - I can not click on calendar invites (accept / decline) - but in KDE using Evolution - I can. So now I have to login to Gnome to get the UMTS to work, and then logout and login to KDE just to accept meeting invites . . . Kinda painful. My dream is to have KDE networking working as well as Gnomes' - although with every successive release of KDE (we now have 4.10 B1 in Cauldron) - the networking applet never gets better. And for the life of me, I can't figure out WHY a native Gnome app like Evolution has problems with calendar meeting invites - but the same program works fine under KDE. Very strange and frustrating . . . Sorry for the rant . . . . Happy Thanksgiving (to those from the States) - R.Fox
Re: [Mageia-dev] Can't win - or, best of both worlds . . .!
Le 23 nov. 2012 05:46, Robert Fox l...@foxconsult.net a écrit : There has been much discussion over the KDE NetApplet and the lack of reliability with it - on my laptop (Thinkpad X220) it crashes regularly and I can't get it to switch between WWAN0 and WLAN0 without failing. Strangely, under Gnome - the Gnome network manager works flawlessly. I can easily start and stop the WiFi or UMTS connection without problems. If the problem if with net_applet that networkmanager does work for you under gnome, why not simply using the plasma-applet-networkmanagement in kde ? (You did of course report bug crash for the netapplet ? ) -- Balcaen John
Re: [Mageia-dev] Can't win - or, best of both worlds . . .!
On Fr, 2012-11-23 at 06:14 -0300, John Balcaen wrote: If the problem if with net_applet that networkmanager does work for you under gnome, why not simply using the plasma-applet-networkmanagement in kde ? (You did of course report bug crash for the netapplet ? ) I will try the plasma-applet . . . BTW, I have been tracking existing bugs which are the same problems I am experiencing (6029, 5015, 3865, 2592, etc.) Thanks for the quick response! R.Fox
Re: [Mageia-dev] Can't win - or, best of both worlds . . .!
Le 23 nov. 2012 06:37, Robert Fox l...@foxconsult.net a écrit : On Fr, 2012-11-23 at 06:14 -0300, John Balcaen wrote: If the problem if with net_applet that networkmanager does work for you under gnome, why not simply using the plasma-applet-networkmanagement in kde ? (You did of course report bug crash for the netapplet ? ) I will try the plasma-applet . . . [...] You can install it and after simple enable it in the systray.( so no need to add the applet in the taskbar or on the desktop) -- Balcaen John
Re: [Mageia-dev] Can't win - or, best of both worlds . . .!
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 06:44 -0300, John Balcaen wrote: Le 23 nov. 2012 06:37, Robert Fox l...@foxconsult.net a écrit : On Fr, 2012-11-23 at 06:14 -0300, John Balcaen wrote: If the problem if with net_applet that networkmanager does work for you under gnome, why not simply using the plasma-applet-networkmanagement in kde ? (You did of course report bug crash for the netapplet ? ) I will try the plasma-applet . . . [...] You can install it and after simple enable it in the systray.( so no need to add the applet in the taskbar or on the desktop) -- Balcaen John Works like a charm! Thanks! One less thing to worry about . . . Now I can stay in KDE . . . Cheers, R.Fox
Re: [Mageia-dev] Can't win - or, best of both worlds . . .!
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:46:43AM +0100, Robert Fox wrote: On the other hand, I use Evolution as my main e-mail client (since many years now) - oddly, when I am in Gnome - I can not click on calendar invites (accept / decline) - but in KDE using Evolution - I can. Weird bug! Maybe related to the theme. In any case, please still file it if you haven't. I don't use Evolution btw. -- Regards, Olav
Re: [Mageia-dev] [Bug 8177] rm command can't delete file, unless using the full path for the rm binary /bin/rm
Le jeudi 22 novembre 2012 23:10:51, Guillaume Rousse a écrit : Le 22/11/2012 20:11, Anne Wilson a écrit : I know someone else who said that :-) Then one day I was standing beside him when he hit Enter, and Sh - yes, he'd wiped the lot. The world of unix admins is divided in two categories: those who already mistyped an rm command, and the others. A joke; To change the localization of all the distro from english to french: # rm -fr * A real mistake made by a unix administrator on his workstation: He mounted with nfs a distant machine in /tmp and puts the instruction in /etc/fstab. He does his job. Everything was working fine and the remote machine was setup in production... Some days later, he reboot his workstation. The boot was long, very long... The reason was that rm -rf /tmp/* was done at each boot ! -- Pierre Jarillon - http://pjarillon.free.fr/ Vice-président de l'ABUL : http://abul.org Microsoft est à l'informatique ce que McDonald est à la gastronomie
Re: [Mageia-dev] Can't win - or, best of both worlds . . .!
On 11/23/2012 03:46 AM, Robert Fox wrote: There has been much discussion over the KDE NetApplet and the lack of reliability with it - on my laptop (Thinkpad X220) it crashes regularly and I can't get it to switch between WWAN0 and WLAN0 without failing. Strangely, under Gnome - the Gnome network manager works flawlessly. I can easily start and stop the WiFi or UMTS connection without problems. Can't win is appropriate. You may want to check the comments in bug#8169. Apart from any net-applet crash, ifplugd is failing to start wireless interfaces with current kernels, which means that the current plan to *not* use NM outside of GNOME may not be workable. If that's the case, then NM has to be made to work out-of-the-box outside of GNOME, or else ifplugd has to be fixed. Nobody outside of this ML is going to know that they have to install extra packages and what they have to do with them to get NM to work.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Can't win - or, best of both worlds . . .!
Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com writes: On 11/23/2012 03:46 AM, Robert Fox wrote: There has been much discussion over the KDE NetApplet and the lack of reliability with it - on my laptop (Thinkpad X220) it crashes regularly and I can't get it to switch between WWAN0 and WLAN0 without failing. Strangely, under Gnome - the Gnome network manager works flawlessly. I can easily start and stop the WiFi or UMTS connection without problems. Can't win is appropriate. You may want to check the comments in bug#8169. Apart from any net-applet crash, ifplugd is failing to start wireless interfaces with current kernels Hi, Do you have any more details about this? It works fine here. Also check that you are using initscripts 9.34-30.mga3 -- Olivier Blin - blino
Re: [Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 6:36 PM, r...@mageia.org wrote: +Summary: File manager for Cinnamon Please don't we decided to not allow Cinnamon in mageia for now.
[Mageia-dev] Locking screen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 After today's Cauldron update I find that my screen is locked frequently, requiring my password to unlock it. Since I normally work with two laptops at the same time - Cauldron and M2 - this is a huge nuisance to me. Where can I change that setting? Anne -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlCvzesACgkQj93fyh4cnBcZQQCfQViTs6Zvl1crCdQGempaNWwC pnIAnicq3FS0FMFav9xrTM4MURL021VL =Dp7m -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Mageia-dev] Locking screen
After today's Cauldron update I find that my screen is locked frequently, requiring my password to unlock it. Since I normally work with two laptops at the same time - Cauldron and M2 - this is a huge nuisance to me. Where can I change that setting? Anne
[Mageia-dev] OpenVPN missing PID dir
While teaching a class in OpenVPN today I noted that urpmi does NOT create the /var/run/openvpn directory which openvpn uses to write it's PID This causes openvpn sufficient grief that it refuses to start... My system uses MGA 2 with all updates applied Richard -- LinuxCabal Asociación Civil Ing. Richard Couture Novell CNE, ECNE, MCNE HP/Compaq ASE Tel.: (+52) (333) 145-2638 Cel.: (+52) (044) 333 377-7505 Cel.: (+52) (044) 333 377-7506 Web: http://www.LinuxCabal.org E-Mail: r...@linuxcabal.org Hosted en la nube Cloud Sigma - www.CloudSigma.com AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este correo electrónico, incluyendo en su caso, los archivos adjuntos al mismo, pueden contener información de carácter confidencial y/o privilegiada, y se envían a la atención única y exclusivamente de la persona y/o entidad a quien va dirigido. La copia, revisión, uso, revelación y/o distribución de dicha información confidencial sin la autorización por escrito de LinuxCabal está prohibida. Si usted no es el destinatario a quien se dirige el presente correo, favor de contactar al remitente respondiendo al presente correo y eliminar el correo original incluyendo sus archivos, así como cualesquiera copia del mismo. Mediante la recepción del presente correo usted reconoce y acepta que en caso de incumplimiento de su parte y/o de sus representantes a los términos antes mencionados, LinuxCabal tendrá derecho a los daños y perjuicios que esto le cause.
Re: [Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
On Friday 23. November 2012 18.43, D.Morgan wrote: we decided to not allow Cinnamon in mageia for now. Is there a list somewhere of Free and open source software that for whatever reason is not allowed in Mageia? -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
Le 23/11/2012 22:39, Johnny A. Solbu a écrit : On Friday 23. November 2012 18.43, D.Morgan wrote: we decided to not allow Cinnamon in mageia for now. Is there a list somewhere of Free and open source software that for whatever reason is not allowed in Mageia? There has already been zillions of discussions about this. We will not have Cinnamon. We already have enough environments and not enough maintainers. And it will cause troubles maintaining different versions. Please try to follow this. An open source project does not mean anybody can do whatever he wants. We must keep some kind of logic and stay realistic given the resources we have at the moment. Cheers -- Anne http://mageia.org
Re: [Mageia-dev] [Bug 8177] rm command can't delete file, unless using the full path for the rm binary /bin/rm
Colin Guthrie a écrit : 'Twas brillig, and Michael Wood at 22/11/12 14:45 did gyre and gimble: Or if you happy to run rm as it was written and risk deleting something you didn't want too, then comment out the alias (and any others that get on your nerves:) ) from /etc/profile.d/60alias.sh While it technically is a config file, it's also numeric which means that one day, it *might* be renumbered for whatever need at the time. I therefore try to always avoid editing such files whenever possible. Instead, I'd personally recommend creating your own file: /etc/profile.d/999-fsck-the-defaults.sh and in it just put: alias rm=rm or similar to undo the earlier changes. Sure there is a tiny amount more to do at init, but it's pretty minimal and you likely won't notice. Col That's what I do too (creating a custom file) -- for various other commands. That also ensures that it isn't overwritten by any updates. For rm, I'd rather have confirmation. (reminds me of the rm -f 127.0.0.1 joke) -- André
Re: [Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [321297] imported package nemo
On Friday 23. November 2012 22.46, Anne Nicolas wrote: There has already been zillions of discussions about this. Discussions some of us have never heard of, including me. We will not have Cinnamon. I am not talking about Cinnamon. I couldn't care less about Cinnamon, as I didn't know what it was untill now. Personally I'm happy with the current environments in Mageia. :-)= I just wanted to know if there is a list or policy or what have you, that we can read to figure out what or which type of FLOSS projects that for whatever reason is unwanted in Mageia. I didn't know there was such a thing. And if new packagers, such as myself, don't know that this or that FLOSS project or types of projects isn't allowed, how do you expect them to not import it? So my question still stands. Is there such a list or policy? If not, should we have one? If the consensus is that such a list is not a good idea or not wanted, I'm fine with it. I just wanted to raise the question. -- Johnny A. Solbu PGP key ID: 0xFA687324 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[Mageia-dev] Video players
For Mageia 3 it is necessary to read all kinds of videos. I have a set of video to test the distro. Totem is out of service but its is however the defaut reader... For some videos, Dragon is not shown in the list of players but works. http://vimeo.com/53980967 from vimeo works with Mageia 1 but not in cauldron. VLC works always. My suggestions are: - When VLC is loaded, it must become the default video viewer. - For each video type, define the viewer (Totem, Dragon) which works. -- Pierre Jarillon - http://pjarillon.free.fr/ Vice-président de l'ABUL : http://abul.org Microsoft est à l'informatique ce que McDonald est à la gastronomie
Re: [Mageia-dev] Can't win - or, best of both worlds . . .!
On 11/23/2012 11:12 AM, Olivier Blin wrote: Frank Griffin f...@roadrunner.com writes: Can't win is appropriate. You may want to check the comments in bug#8169. Apart from any net-applet crash, ifplugd is failing to start wireless interfaces with current kernels Hi, Do you have any more details about this? It works fine here. Also check that you are using initscripts 9.34-30.mga3 This all started with https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7849 , but I'd swear there was discussion in the ML beyond what's in the bug report, because I recall others reporting similar problems with the same kernel. Or maybe my memory is as bad as it usually is, and the other reports were for the same kernel on non-Mageia systems that I found by googling. I haven't tested since, because this was the straw on the camel's back that finally got me to pull enough teeth to find out that NM won't work in KDE without manual intervention. Once I got NM to work, I never went back. However, bug#8169 references a BCM chip rather than an RTL chip, and while my laptop with the RTL chip is still out of commission, my new one has a BCM chip, so I can try a new install and retest ifplugd with current cauldron. I hadn't bothered to date, since no one ever updated bug#7849 to indicate that anything had been done about it.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Can't win - or, best of both worlds . . .!
On 24/11/2012 05:36, Frank Griffin wrote: I haven't tested since, because this was the straw on the camel's back that finally got me to pull enough teeth to find out that NM won't work in KDE without manual intervention. Once I got NM to work, I never went back. For those of us still struggling to get wireless to work, can you give more details, please? Sorry if you have done so somewhere else and I missed it. Anne
