Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub2 vs. Grub Legacy in M3 [play nice, people]
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 12:42 +0100, André Salaün wrote: [...] > But perhaps I am a stupid linux user since 13 or 14 years and I should > have to buy Apple product or W8 ;-) I've been using Unix since V7 days and have been told on this list I shouldn't be using Cauldron because it's for more advanced users. Please people, let's be respectful and also welcoming. A lot of people get heavily involved with computers because they aren't "people people" or because they feel more comfortable with absolutes and certainty than with the warm fleshly reality of humanity, so we need also to understand people are not necessarily deliberately being offensive or dismissive, especially if English might not be their first language. Regards, Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml
Re: [Mageia-dev] Feedback on Mageia 3 beta1
Le 17/01/2013 00:10, Davy Defaud a écrit : - I own a DVB card, but its firmware (dvb-fe-tda10046.fw) is not provided by any mga package. We used to find it in a Mandriva PLF rpm before. It would be nice for end users to find it in a Mageia package somehow. Moreover, the module and its dependencies (saa7134, saa7134_dvb, saa7134_alsa) don't work after resuming from suspend. Unfortunately, a dedicated script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ doesn't help since it doesn't seem to be called. But anyway, this bug should have been fixed for a long time as a patch has been proposed to the kernel subsystem maintainer (Mauro Carvalho Chehab), but... see the most interesting part of the story here: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/46854 Perhaps Thomas, our dear kernel master, could include it in the next mga kernel, so I could give my feedback on the patch?... I should have read more carefully the thread because the patch I was referring to is only for b2c2_flexcop_pci. Not that it isn't useful, but I won't be able to test it as my card is driven by the saa7134 module... Anyway, there should be a way to force modules reload, like I did before with a special script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/. I guess systemd migration is responsible of this regression. Is there anybody out there (© Pink Floyd) aware of this kind of things? I guess Colin is...
[Mageia-dev] Freeze push wxsvg for bug#8727
Hi there, please push wxsvg, that's a bumped version to 1.1.11 that fixes https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8727 on dvdstyler. As far as I can test, dvdstyler does not need a rebuild, but feel free to do it if you juge so. urpmq --whatrequires lib64wxsvg0 dvdstyler lib64wxsvg-devel lib64wxsvg0 so nothing else should be affected. Cheers, Chris.
[Mageia-dev] Free push: iurt
This is a bug fix release: 0.6.19 - fix missing used function in emi and ulri - use unique tmpfile for dumping macros
Re: [Mageia-dev] how to NFS+PXE
Op zondag 6 januari 2013 23:54:22 schreef AL13N: > Op vrijdag 4 januari 2013 10:08:04 schreef AL13N: > > Op donderdag 3 januari 2013 22:14:51 schreef AL13N: [...] just a reply to note that /dev/dvd does not exist, making playing DVDs in media players not working: []# ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/dvd i am unsure of course if this link will be there next time? is /dev on tmpfs? did i forgot to install some packages that have udev rules in it? or is there something more going on? i do remember even going to deviceinfo in MCC, so... i would expect that at least to tell me what would need to be installed...
Re: [Mageia-dev] What's the point of the latest nvidia update?
Op zaterdag 19 januari 2013 17:59:32 schreef Claire Robinson: > On 19/01/13 17:52, Juan Luis Baptiste wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM, AL13N wrote: > >> if for mga2 you want a newer driver you should ask for a backport > >> request, ie: to have 310 on mga2 as well. > >> > >> plz file such requests at https://bugs.mageia.org/ > > > > This means that backports at last are opened ?? > > http://is.gd/RPG8NO this blocks backports, but this has been decided to fix soon-ish. so, soon backports is opened (hopefully), but perhaps sooner if there are more backport requests. be advised that asking for a backport means you in combination with maintainer will have make sure you have at least 2 people (i586/x86_64) who can QA test it for QA validation. (since we could use more help on QA when we're opening backports). i think your request is a sensible one and hope you're willing to help out to get it into mga2. I would advise you if you find those people to state so in the bug report. The, hopefully that bug will be finished and backports will be opened.
Re: [Mageia-dev] What's the point of the latest nvidia update?
On 19/01/13 17:52, Juan Luis Baptiste wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM, AL13N wrote: >> >> if for mga2 you want a newer driver you should ask for a backport request, >> ie: >> to have 310 on mga2 as well. >> >> plz file such requests at https://bugs.mageia.org/ > > This means that backports at last are opened ?? > http://is.gd/RPG8NO
Re: [Mageia-dev] What's the point of the latest nvidia update?
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM, AL13N wrote: > > if for mga2 you want a newer driver you should ask for a backport request, ie: > to have 310 on mga2 as well. > > plz file such requests at https://bugs.mageia.org/ This means that backports at last are opened ?? -- Juancho
Re: [Mageia-dev] Questions on dualbooting/grub/bootloader-utils
JA Magallón wrote: > Why do bootloader-utils (I think?) change device.map, menu.lst settings ? Good question. While trying to figure out a problem with upgraded VMs to Cauldron, installing kernels in the chroot system using the Rescue feature of the installer caused device.map to have all hd entries wiped out and all that was left was fd0. I had to restore device.map from the device.map.old copy it makes.
Re: [Mageia-dev] php packages failing to build
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:35 PM, AL13N wrote: > Is anything used by something else? > > Do most of them have replacements or are obsoleted by others? > > php-bcompiler ... iirc, i donno if there is a replacement for this > php-archive ... sounds like it's obsoleted by others > php-xslcache ... is this obsolete too? > php-gtk2 ... is there a php-gtk3 [5-Aug-2010] Dropping by to let the PHP-GTK community know that development is still happening! The project is being split up into different projects, PECL/Cairo, GLib, GObject, etc. The cairo one seems to be the only one existing so far... Last commit on http://svn.php.net/viewvc/gtk/php-gtk/trunk/ is 2 years old > php-tdb ... this might be used for samba stuff > > and: > > php-perl & php-python <--- WTF? That's the other way around from http://search.cpan.org/~mob/PHP-0.14/PHP.pm or http://search.cpan.org/~aff/PHP-Interpreter-1.0.2/ > Op zaterdag 19 januari 2013 09:26:35 schreef Thomas Spuhler: >> The following packages don't build anymore. >> The php-5.4(zend) patches have been applied, but there are a lot of other >> issues. All of them haven't seen any upstream activities fir 2 years. >> >> I propose to move them to obsoletes if nobody complains or steps I will do >> it early next week: >> >> php-archive >> php-bcompiler >> php-colorer >> php-courierauth >> php-ecasound >> php-event >> php-filepro >> php-framegrab >> php-funcall >> php-gtk2 >> php-mcache >> php-mnogosearch >> php-perl >> php-ps >> php-python >> php-syck >> php-tcpwrap >> php-tdb >> php-teng >> php-tk >> php-xslcache >> php-yp
Re: [Mageia-dev] php packages failing to build
Is anything used by something else? Do most of them have replacements or are obsoleted by others? php-bcompiler ... iirc, i donno if there is a replacement for this php-archive ... sounds like it's obsoleted by others php-xslcache ... is this obsolete too? php-gtk2 ... is there a php-gtk3 php-tdb ... this might be used for samba stuff and: php-perl & php-python <--- WTF? Op zaterdag 19 januari 2013 09:26:35 schreef Thomas Spuhler: > The following packages don't build anymore. > The php-5.4(zend) patches have been applied, but there are a lot of other > issues. All of them haven't seen any upstream activities fir 2 years. > > I propose to move them to obsoletes if nobody complains or steps I will do > it early next week: > > php-archive > php-bcompiler > php-colorer > php-courierauth > php-ecasound > php-event > php-filepro > php-framegrab > php-funcall > php-gtk2 > php-mcache > php-mnogosearch > php-perl > php-ps > php-python > php-syck > php-tcpwrap > php-tdb > php-teng > php-tk > php-xslcache > php-yp
Re: [Mageia-dev] Update question about python-pygments
'Twas brillig, and Barry Jackson at 19/01/13 14:51 did gyre and gimble: > On 19/01/13 14:41, Barry Jackson wrote: >> In order to fix https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7906 >> which is about the poor display of many spec files in ViewVC. >> >> We need the latest version of python-pygments which has just been >> released with RPM spec lexer included. >> >> This would also need to be installed on the ViewVC server. >> >> The new version is 1.6 rc1 >> http://pygments.org/download/ >> >> It is not in svn yet and I have not yet managed to contact the >> maintainer (philippem), although I have built it locally, and it's ready >> to upload. >> >> >> > I forgot the questions :/ > > Will it be possible to include this in Mga3 or should it wait until Mga4 > Cauldron? > > If it waits, then will we be able to install the Cauldron version on the > server to fix this bug before Mga4 ? Assuming the upstream is not deprecating anything and is aiming for api compatibility etc. then I think we should probably include it in mga3, but that's just my opinion. Col -- Colin Guthrie colin(at)mageia.org http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/ Open Source: Mageia Contributor http://www.mageia.org/ PulseAudio Hacker http://www.pulseaudio.org/ Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/
Re: [Mageia-dev] php packages failing to build
'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 19/01/13 16:26 did gyre and gimble: > The following packages don't build anymore. > The php-5.4(zend) patches have been applied, but there are a lot of other > issues. > All of them haven't seen any upstream activities fir 2 years. > > I propose to move them to obsoletes if nobody complains or steps I will do it > early next week: > > php-xslcache Oh this looks useful... but that said I've always just created a custom package with a catalog and copies of the XSLs I use regularly which does much the same trick system-wide. None of the packages look super crazy useful to me and probably won't be missed. Col -- Colin Guthrie colin(at)mageia.org http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/ Open Source: Mageia Contributor http://www.mageia.org/ PulseAudio Hacker http://www.pulseaudio.org/ Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/
[Mageia-dev] php packages failing to build
The following packages don't build anymore. The php-5.4(zend) patches have been applied, but there are a lot of other issues. All of them haven't seen any upstream activities fir 2 years. I propose to move them to obsoletes if nobody complains or steps I will do it early next week: php-archive php-bcompiler php-colorer php-courierauth php-ecasound php-event php-filepro php-framegrab php-funcall php-gtk2 php-mcache php-mnogosearch php-perl php-ps php-python php-syck php-tcpwrap php-tdb php-teng php-tk php-xslcache php-yp -- Best regards Thomas Spuhler signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Update question about python-pygments
On 19/01/13 14:41, Barry Jackson wrote: In order to fix https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7906 which is about the poor display of many spec files in ViewVC. We need the latest version of python-pygments which has just been released with RPM spec lexer included. This would also need to be installed on the ViewVC server. The new version is 1.6 rc1 http://pygments.org/download/ It is not in svn yet and I have not yet managed to contact the maintainer (philippem), although I have built it locally, and it's ready to upload. I forgot the questions :/ Will it be possible to include this in Mga3 or should it wait until Mga4 Cauldron? If it waits, then will we be able to install the Cauldron version on the server to fix this bug before Mga4 ?
Re: [Mageia-dev] What's the point of the latest nvidia update?
Op zaterdag 19 januari 2013 10:51:21 schreef Robert Wood: > I have a modern nvidia graphics card on my desktop that necessittated > having to get the very latest nvidia driver from the nvidia site and > manually install. > > So, when we had a nvidia pakcage update on my laptop, I thought I'd give > the Mageia package another go, but it makes sack-all difference, it > still just sits there doing nothing and says: > > Failed to start Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit > > So I went and looked on my laptop and it looks like it's v 295.49 > whereas the very latest version is 304.43. I need this for my modern > graphics card or the desktop refuses to boot. So, why bother with > v295.49 when there's a much more modern one? > > ** for mga2, the driver update (meaning no new functionality, just bugfixes is 295) for mga3 (beta1) the latest driver is atm 310... if for mga2 you want a newer driver you should ask for a backport request, ie: to have 310 on mga2 as well. plz file such requests at https://bugs.mageia.org/
[Mageia-dev] Update question about python-pygments
In order to fix https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7906 which is about the poor display of many spec files in ViewVC. We need the latest version of python-pygments which has just been released with RPM spec lexer included. This would also need to be installed on the ViewVC server. The new version is 1.6 rc1 http://pygments.org/download/ It is not in svn yet and I have not yet managed to contact the maintainer (philippem), although I have built it locally, and it's ready to upload.
Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release firefox-17.0.2-5.mga3
On 17 January 2013 23:57, pterjan wrote: > pterjan 0:17.0.2-5.mga3: > + Revision: 389233 > - Add Mageia parameter to DuckDuckGo url we should do the same on firefox-beta & -aurora
Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal mageia install
'Twas brillig, and EatDirt at 18/01/13 17:26 did gyre and gimble: > On 18/01/13 18:19, Bruno Cornec wrote: > >> I don't know who did that great job, but I'd like to congratulate this >> community, as with the beta of Mageia 3 I'm now able to install a very >> minimal distro for a firewall with 340 packages "only" without doing any >> urpme in my postinstall script !! Very happy about that, please keep up >> the good work ! > > YEAA! Mageia got the systemd-Colin Machine that seriously rocks! Actually I think it was me who *caused* a lot of the required pkgs issues with dracut. I did mean to strip it out after mga2 release but totally forgot. Someone else actually removed some of those not strictly needed deps which likely helped a lot in with this issue. Col -- Colin Guthrie colin(at)mageia.org http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/ Open Source: Mageia Contributor http://www.mageia.org/ PulseAudio Hacker http://www.pulseaudio.org/ Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/
Re: [Mageia-dev] Free(ze) push: playonlinux
Le samedi 19 janvier 2013 13:22:08, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : > Hi, > > I updated playonlinux to the minor release 4.1.9, which is said by the > developers to be meant to be the last of the 4.1.x branch, including lots > of stability improvements, bugfixes (but also a few improvements). > > Changelog : http://www.playonlinux.com/en/commentaires-1133.html > > Thanks! > > Samuel I meant "freeze" push, of course :)
[Mageia-dev] Free push: playonlinux
Hi, I updated playonlinux to the minor release 4.1.9, which is said by the developers to be meant to be the last of the 4.1.x branch, including lots of stability improvements, bugfixes (but also a few improvements). Changelog : http://www.playonlinux.com/en/commentaires-1133.html Thanks! Samuel
Re: [Mageia-dev] Grub2 vs. Grub Legacy in M3
Le Fri, 18 Jan 2013 23:04:13 + Barry Jackson a écrit: > On 18/01/13 21:50, André Salaün wrote: > > Le Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:19:24 + > > Maurice Batey a écrit: > > > >> On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:09:41 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > >> > >>> As Grub2 devs all but insist Grub2 must be installed to the MBR, > >> > >>Thus preventing the use of such bootloadcers as GAG, and Extipl. so in > >> that respect GRUB2 is a retrograde step. > >> > >> -- > >> /\/\aurice > >> > > > > +1 > > > > Same philosophy as gnome3 : only me. > > My choice is the goof choice according to myself (Im a dev so I can't be > > wrong) > > Same philosophy as Apple : users (like people) are children ! Elite > > have to show them the « good way ». > > > > Alleluia ! > > > > All FUD > > Have any of you actually installed grub2 in Cauldron and read > /usr/share/doc/grub2/README.Mageia and then actually tried it? > > This can be done without upsetting your grub legacy installation in any way. > > I have been using grub2 with Mageia since Mga1 and multibooting a dozen > or more distros including grub legacy and grub2. > > I am currently running Cauldron with only grub2 installed and NOT to the > MBR. > > I have just net installed current cauldron (so really mga3b2) with grub2 > (not in MBR) and can multiboot straight into it. > (at present there is an issue with the installer so the install just > needs to be aborted at the bootloader install stage to do this) > https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8742 > > As regards the background - grub2 picks up the current default Mageia > artwork from the system on install, so this should be automatic. > > All these fears are, AFAICT unfounded. So it'is a fud launched by grub2 developpers when they recommend installing it only on the MBR. Since the apparition of grub2 all that is almost unclear. Lack of communication or understandability I don't know but the fact is that grub2 is a problem for many users. If we add EFI UEFI (of course not linux fault) it is a easyless installing one or different Gnu/linux systems than 3 years ago. But perhaps I am a stupid linux user since 13 or 14 years and I should have to buy Apple product or W8 ;-) -- A.Salaün
Re: [Mageia-dev] What's the point of the latest nvidia update?
Στις 19/01/2013 10:51:21 Robert Wood έγραψε: I have a modern nvidia graphics card on my desktop that necessittated having to get the very latest nvidia driver from the nvidia site and manually install. So, when we had a nvidia pakcage update on my laptop, I thought I'd give the Mageia package another go, but it makes sack-all difference, it still just sits there doing nothing and says: Failed to start Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit So I went and looked on my laptop and it looks like it's v 295.49 whereas the very latest version is 304.43. I need this for my modern graphics card or the desktop refuses to boot. So, why bother with v295.49 when there's a much more modern one? You can follow this guide with your own risk: 3. Installing proprietaty video driver for Nvidia from Mageia Russian Community repository Be careful! That are unofficial repo and unofficial driver package! That can do some problems with your system like x-server don't start at system launching, etc. If you don't know what you doing - don't do these actions! for i586 su urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib MageiaLinux.ru-i586- http://packages.mageialinux.ru/mageia2/i586/ exit for x86_64 su urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib MageiaLinux.ru-x86_64- http://packages.mageialinux.ru/mageia2/x86_64/ exit Open RpmDrake GUI and use search. You need find and install x11-driver-video-nvidia-current and dkms-nvidia-current packages with version 304.60 and prefix 1.mrc.mga2. Installation will be long. After installation you need reboot your PC. http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/846939071448270483/ -- Dimitrios Glentadakis
[Mageia-dev] What's the point of the latest nvidia update?
I have a modern nvidia graphics card on my desktop that necessittated having to get the very latest nvidia driver from the nvidia site and manually install. So, when we had a nvidia pakcage update on my laptop, I thought I'd give the Mageia package another go, but it makes sack-all difference, it still just sits there doing nothing and says: Failed to start Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit So I went and looked on my laptop and it looks like it's v 295.49 whereas the very latest version is 304.43. I need this for my modern graphics card or the desktop refuses to boot. So, why bother with v295.49 when there's a much more modern one? **
Re: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: amarok
Hello, Le 18/01/2013 10:34, fundawang a écrit : Hello, Could amaork 2.7.0 stable be pushed into cauldron? We target at 2.7.x for mga3, and we currently have 2.6 beta version in cauldron. Thanks. ping It would be nice to have amarok 2.7.0 final release in upcoming beta 2; it seems to fix crashes reported in release_blocker #7748 (it fixes crashes for Nikita Krupenko, and myself with a local build of amarok 2.7.0). https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7748 regards, Luc -- Luc Menut
