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Re: [Mageia-dev] replace mysql by mariadb ? (was HEADSUP: mariadb available for testing)
and benchmarks of MySQL vs MariaDB : this is important if you plan to use Mageia on a production server 2011/12/2 Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be: Op vrijdag 02 december 2011 18:24:13 schreef zezinho: Le vendredi 2 décembre 2011 17:33:04, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : if we test mariadb, and you see no differences, why not drop it? do you agree? I'd say go slow, go for sure. We need a list of needed tests: - phpmyadmin - amarok - nepomuk - akonadi - - install a cms like spip.net can also be interesting I you want so much mariadb un mageia, I expect you to build all this srpms against it, and test them a lot (some music files in amarok, some file searches through nepomuk, some addresses in akonadi) Then we can talk about submitting all this to mageia cauldron AKA 2 alpha. We should not just push to cauldron without local tests. you didn't think i did local tests? i tested with amarok, akonadi, drupal and phpmyadmin locally the purpose of this is exactly to get more testing -- Close the World, Open the Net http://www.linux-wizard.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
2011/2/7 Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it: On 6 February 2011 23:17, Fabrice Facorat fabrice.faco...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it: 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it: 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it: whereas eventually I may know about release ( Mageia 2011 ), I may not know about updates/backports/testing/ What's the point fo browsing by release ? It's an application database, so you should browse by applications. this mockup depends for some aspects on the current implementation: http://88.191.121.20/madb/master/index.php/?source=0distrelease=8application=1arch=1 i agree about browsing only by applications, but for power users is important also the updates/backports/testing/ option. It's depend on the workflow. Do you want to : - quickly be able to see all backports packages for a release - or see the differents versions for a package IMHO for the former, you'd better add a query/report page where the user could select some filters and then have an answer. Some of the filters category : release = distribution_version1, distribution_version_2 category = release, backport, testing sort by = category, release date You should keep the UI simple, and then add a query page to allow complex queries for power users. -- Close the World, Open the Net http://www.linux-wizard.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
2011/2/6 Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it: hi Samuel, these are my last 2 mockups about mageia-app-db project. i've added mageia- discuss and mageia-dev in the CC list so anyone can share his opinion about these mockups, giving us comments and ideas that can improve the tool. please, tell me what do you think about it homepage: http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/ browsing page: http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/ sorry but who is supposed to use mageia-app-db ? power users ? dev ? casual/normal users ? -- Close the World, Open the Net http://www.linux-wizard.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
2011/2/6 Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it: 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it: homepage: http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/ browsing page: http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/ sorry but who is supposed to use mageia-app-db ? power users ? dev ? casual/normal users ? Samuel said that the application must be useful both for newbies and power users ok for power users, but for normal users the Ui is too cluttered 1. left pane : Release Alpha vs Cauldron ? for a normal user, this means pretty nothing. If the user is looking for an application/package, then don't talk about release or repositories. What about using instead rpm categories, and then display theses kind of information in the package infos 2. right pane : Alpha vs Beta ? 3. center pane : the introduction text is too long IMHO 4. why do we have 2 search fields ? -- Close the World, Open the Net http://www.linux-wizard.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] New mockups about mageia-app-db
2011/2/6 Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it: 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it: 2011/2/6 Marcello Anni marcello.a...@alice.it: homepage: http://img209.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindouthomepage.jpg/ browsing page: http://img696.imageshack.us/i/mageiafindoutbrowsingpa.jpg/ sorry but who is supposed to use mageia-app-db ? power users ? dev ? casual/normal users ? Samuel said that the application must be useful both for newbies and power users ok for power users, but for normal users the Ui is too cluttered [remember that this is only a first mockup made by me (the developer is Samuel), my goal is to provide to him all the most interesting infos and ideas to develop the app as best as possible.] 1. left pane : Release Alpha vs Cauldron ? for a normal user, this means pretty nothing. If the user is looking for an application/package, then don't talk about release or repositories. well, if you have mandriva installed, do you think you don't know what release is? alpha release vs. cauldron could be Mageia 2011 and Mageia 2012 whereas eventually I may know about release ( Mageia 2011 ), I may not know about updates/backports/testing/ What's the point fo browsing by release ? It's an application database, so you should browse by applications. What about using instead rpm categories, and then display theses kind of information in the package infos do you mean showing only amarok field and when you get into it you'll download different versions depending on the release installed? it can be an interesting idea. first I see the main categories : Office, Sound Video, Tools, ... Then the sub-category and then the application : Sound Video - Sound - Amarok The left pane should only show categories, the application list will be displayed in the center pane. See tthe way you navigate in this : http://download.cnet.com/windows/mp3-and-audio-software/?tag=rb_content;contentNav 2. right pane : Alpha vs Beta ? also here, i mean something like this: Mageia 2011 and Mageia 2012 this won't scale when you will have more and more release, except if you plan to show only 2 releases, and so to support a mandriva release only during 2 releases cycles. -- Close the World, Open the Net http://www.linux-wizard.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] Dev Team Call To Action...
2011/1/27 Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie: 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 27/01/11 00:17 did gyre and gimble: - mageia-app-db (Stormi: PHP) would like some help. I've been a lot busier with work and other real life commitments of late , so have not had nearly as much time for Mageia stuff as I'd hoped. But in principle, I can help out here with the PHP side of things. IIRC Stormi is using Zend Framework which I'm very familiar with. Symphony it seems. I have a look at the code and site project as I was willing to help too :) -- Close the World, Open the Net http://www.linux-wizard.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] Mirror list for apps (LONG mail)
2010/11/3 Michael Scherer m...@mandriva.org: Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 20:05 +0100, Fabrice Facorat a écrit : 2010/11/3 Olivier Thauvin nanar...@nanardon.zarb.org: Keeping this format is more simple, just changing the line specifiying basis url in URPMI. And allow to keep compatibility with urpmi without maintaining too much patch By changing the the format we can add features, make it clearer, etc... But changing format to what ? XML ? YAML ? CSV ? something worst ? :) Changes can done later. if really you want to change this you should : - ditch the url in favor of a XML-RPC or REST calls Given the fact we have slightly less ressources than Mandriva and that people on Mandriva side ( or at least, that's what I remind that fcrozat told me ) didn't have the ressources to have a more complex system, we should avoid this. - by doing this you will be able to user whatever version or name for the distribution. Indeed by using an url, you have to avoid space, or too fancy names. On top of that you can change too much the format You can use space in a url. sure, but it's ugly and you need to escape the space ( url encoding ) And if we use a XML-RPC api, we will not be able to change it either, so that trading the impossibility of changing the format for the impossibility to change the API. a good API won't be an issue :p URL parsing is harder and more error-prone This could be done on the client side. On the client side, this would mean a little bit more bandwidth used, a little more cpu, and on our side, it would be less CPU. And I think cpu is a more rare ressources than bandwidth. you can use cache on the server side, i.e provide a static file which is a cache of the query. -- Close the World, Open the Net http://www.linux-wizard.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github
Le 2 octobre 2010 17:52, Nicolas Lécureuil neoclust.mag...@gmail.com a écrit : 2010/10/2 Fabrice Facorat fabrice.faco...@gmail.com 2010/10/1 Sinner from the Prairy sinnerb...@gmail.com: Fabrice Facorat wrote: Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome. draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well. some tools does not work correctly however and are buggy Better is to fix them instead of rewrite all. you know, when something have been broken for more than 2 years ... at some point you may think that the best would be to just change it ;-) -- Close the World, Open the Net http://www.linux-wizard.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github
2010/10/1 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com: Somehow I have a feeling this thread will be a deja vu of the rpm vs. deb thread... Yes, the magic of mailists strikes again. And of course, the same arguments will be restated again because people can not browse back to the previous arguments. In a lot of cases, Déjà vu could almost be called the alias of Mailist. LOL this is not rpm vs deb or synaptic vs smart vs rpmdrake. This is about making some decisions about some tools. Some of the Mandriva tools have outdate UI, cluttered UI and even are sometimes buggy. The situation persists since many years already, so at some point we should ask ourself : are we going to rewrite them, notably the UI, to make them be more 2010, or should we use another tool with another GUI. -- Close the World, Open the Net http://www.linux-wizard.net
Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github
2010/10/1 Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Fabrice Facorat wrote: This is about making some decisions about some tools. Some of the Mandriva tools have outdate UI, cluttered UI and even are sometimes buggy. The situation persists since many years already, so at some point we should ask ourself : are we going to rewrite them, notably the UI, to make them be more 2010, or should we use another tool with another GUI. Personally I don't see anything wrong with the GUI of the draktools. there's many things wrong. Just try Wndows 7 or Windows 2008 R2 tools http://www.win2008r2workstation.com/win2008r2/themes http://learn.iis.net/page.aspx/29/installing-iis-7-on-windows-server-2008-or-windows-server-2008-r2/ http://www.verboon.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/2010061520h01_291.png http://4sysops.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/windows-server-2008-r2-bpa.png If imrpoving them means to rewrite them from scratch or replace them with inferior tools from other distros, then that would be a big effort and/or step backwards just for the estetics. Substance counts a lot more than appearance to me. again you're somewhat wrong iPod and iPhones are inferirors products technically speaking, but they have better appearance ( good marketing, which is about appearance ) and so are successful. -- Close the World, Open the Net http://www.linux-wizard.net
