Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Marja van Waes  wrote:
> On 06/07/2012 16:49, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
>> Shall we try that?
>
> Well, if you replace "bi-monthly" by "twice a month" (that seems to be what
> you mean), then: yes, please!

Yes.

Ok, test will go in a few minutes to all current assignees that have
bugs matching your query (I had to duplicate it to my own account).


Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Vinet Raphaël
Le vendredi 6 juillet 2012 17:46:16 Marja van Waes a écrit :
> On 06/07/2012 16:49, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> > (removed -discuss from the discussion)
> > 
> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Marja van Waes  wrote:
> >> On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> >> Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)
> > 
> > No, it works in the current setup.
> > 
> >> I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a
> >> confirmation
> >> that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except when the assignee
> >> shows activity in the report.
> >> 
> >> If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on
> >> the
> >> whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this search
> >> again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.
> > 
> > We can make a bi-monthly check that will only whine to the assignees,
> > and not others. That makes at most (for the unlucky ones), two mails a
> > month summarizing what they are assigned to and that it has not been
> > checked out of the query.
> > 
> > Shall we try that?
> 
> Well, if you replace "bi-monthly" by "twice a month" (that seems to be
> what you mean), then: yes, please!
> 
> Bi-monthly doesn't have a fixed meaning
> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bi-monthly ;)
> 
> Thanks a lot, Romain :)

Hi,

Please continue these mass ping until the solution for filtering problems in 
kmail ... we will see if it is a good solution :p

A+
Raph


Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Marja van Waes

On 06/07/2012 16:49, Romain d'Alverny wrote:

(removed -discuss from the discussion)

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Marja van Waes  wrote:

On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)


No, it works in the current setup.





I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a confirmation
that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except when the assignee
shows activity in the report.

If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on the
whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this search
again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.


We can make a bi-monthly check that will only whine to the assignees,
and not others. That makes at most (for the unlucky ones), two mails a
month summarizing what they are assigned to and that it has not been
checked out of the query.

Shall we try that?


Well, if you replace "bi-monthly" by "twice a month" (that seems to be 
what you mean), then: yes, please!


Bi-monthly doesn't have a fixed meaning 
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bi-monthly ;)


Thanks a lot, Romain :)


Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
(removed -discuss from the discussion)

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Marja van Waes  wrote:
> On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)

No, it works in the current setup.

>> A monthly (or every 2 months) reminder of bugs fitting in your above
>> query would sound sane, if it's sent only to the assignee. If not,
>> then the whole mass ping itself should not be done either.
>
> Waiting one month to find out whether a bug was assigned correctly is too
> long, in my opinion, unless the assignee is busy gathering enough
> information to be able to tell.
>
> I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a confirmation
> that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except when the assignee
> shows activity in the report.
>
> If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on the
> whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this search
> again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.

We can make a bi-monthly check that will only whine to the assignees,
and not others. That makes at most (for the unlucky ones), two mails a
month summarizing what they are assigned to and that it has not been
checked out of the query.

Shall we try that?


Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Marja van Waes

On 06/07/2012 14:22, Romain d'Alverny wrote:

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Marja van Waes  wrote:

On 06/07/2012 13:59, Romain d'Alverny wrote:


On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waes   wrote:


Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.


Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
notified of his assigned bugs in a single mail listing those?


Yes, that would be a lot better.

I understood that feature was disabled to solve bug 1932

https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932


Ok, but there a daily reminder is nonsense.



Maybe it works better in upgraded Bugzilla :)


A monthly (or every 2 months) reminder of bugs fitting in your above
query would sound sane, if it's sent only to the assignee. If not,
then the whole mass ping itself should not be done either.


Waiting one month to find out whether a bug was assigned correctly is 
too long, in my opinion, unless the assignee is busy gathering enough 
information to be able to tell.


I think we should ping bug reports for which we haven't got a 
confirmation that the assignment was correct after two weeks, except 
when the assignee shows activity in the report.


If the assignee thinks the bug was assigned correctly, he can put OK on 
the whiteboard or set status to ASSIGNED, and he won't show up in this 
search again, so he won't be pinged for this reason again.







Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-bugsquad] Bugzilla mass assignee ping

2012-07-06 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Marja van Waes  wrote:
> On 06/07/2012 13:59, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Marja van Waes  wrote:
>>>
>>> Later today there'll be a mass assignee ping for Bugzilla.
>>
>> Couldn't we use another method than this? Like using Bugzilla's native
>> whining feature, or an equivalent where each assignee only get
>> notified of his assigned bugs in a single mail listing those?
>
> Yes, that would be a lot better.
>
> I understood that feature was disabled to solve bug 1932
>
> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932

Ok, but there a daily reminder is nonsense.

A monthly (or every 2 months) reminder of bugs fitting in your above
query would sound sane, if it's sent only to the assignee. If not,
then the whole mass ping itself should not be done either.