Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
Hi, > Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h > UTC on #mageia-dev. I cannot attend, i'm still on holidays :) > In between we will work on some burning subjects > (backports incis meetiluded) so that we can take final decisions > during this meeting. The bad is that i can't be there for that decision... The good is that i can always say i was not there for that decision :p See you Angelo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
Florian Hubold a écrit : Am 19.08.2011 19:48, schrieb Shlomi Fish: Hi, On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:21:22 +0200 Anne nicolas wrote: Hi there Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h UTC on #mageia-dev. In between we will work on some burning subjects (backports incis meetiluded) so that we can take final decisions during this meeting. As usual and as it's a long time we did not have any meeting, you can propose some topics to be added. We will need a review on current mentoring (André ?) and secteam (Stew ?). Well, one thing that had bitten me twice is that with my ATI Radeon HD cards, the Mageia installations from the dual CD were unusable on two computers I tried due to the lack of the "radeon-firmware" package. After I installed that package, and rebuilt the initrds, then the problems were solved. Still, it didn't look good at all. Is this fact peculiar to the dual CD, and is better in the DVDs or do we not use radeon-firmeware by default globally? I'd like this discussed in the next meeting. Regards, Shlomi Fish I'd like to add another thing to the meeting topics: The discussion about non-free / tainted, which lasted really long, but AFAICS there is no concensus or decision, and the discussion has effectively reached a standstill. My tries to get this going again have not succeeded so far. For reference, have a look at those: https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006382.html https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/007001.html For some people the situation seems really clear, also to me, this viewpoint is what tmb expressed in his mail: https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006560.html But in the end we need a definitive decision. In the last reference, tmb responded to my post by noting that the original mirror policy put _all_ packages subject to patents or similar restrictions in some countries in "tainted". Since then, I have noticed that packages in non-free are tagged "non-free" (in the file name), and almost all packages in "tainted" are tagged "tainted". So a simple solution, considering that the consensus is to keep a third repository, is to tag all packages subject to both conditions as both "non-free" and "tainted". And leave them in the "tainted" repository. We could even have a filter to avoid showing "non-free" items in the "tainted" repo, for those so concerned. In any case, if we put both tags for such packages, "non-free" would always show up in the package name (under "revision" in rpmdrake). BTW, I think it was an excellent idea to tag the packages with their repo/classification, if not in "core". (I still think we could have a better name than "tainted", since there is nothing intrinsically wrong with the packages.) -- André
Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
Op vrijdag 19 augustus 2011 20:27:33 schreef Florian Hubold: > Am 19.08.2011 19:48, schrieb Shlomi Fish: [...] > But in the end we need a definitive decision. i think for some of the topics we do need a definitive decision, so +1
Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
16.08.2011 16:21, Anne nicolas kirjutas: > Hi there > > Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h > UTC on #mageia-dev. In between we will work on some burning subjects > (backports incis meetiluded) so that we can take final decisions > during this meeting. > > As usual and as it's a long time we did not have any meeting, you can > propose some topics to be added. We will need a review on current > mentoring (André ?) and secteam (Stew ?). > > Thanks for advance > Cheers > Another topic proposal: http://check.mageia.org/dependencies.html This is getting slightly out of hand. First there is some fixing to do (for example: "horde-prefs found in incorrect media core.x86_64 (allowed core.i586)" - a lot of such errors, who's gonna fix them?) Secondly there was proposal not to allow in those packages that have unmet requires (for example awn-amarok-minsec which needs avant-window-navigator). If the package can't be used there is no reason to submit it or allow it in the repos. -- Sander
Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
Am 19.08.2011 19:48, schrieb Shlomi Fish: Hi, On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:21:22 +0200 Anne nicolas wrote: Hi there Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h UTC on #mageia-dev. In between we will work on some burning subjects (backports incis meetiluded) so that we can take final decisions during this meeting. As usual and as it's a long time we did not have any meeting, you can propose some topics to be added. We will need a review on current mentoring (André ?) and secteam (Stew ?). Well, one thing that had bitten me twice is that with my ATI Radeon HD cards, the Mageia installations from the dual CD were unusable on two computers I tried due to the lack of the "radeon-firmware" package. After I installed that package, and rebuilt the initrds, then the problems were solved. Still, it didn't look good at all. Is this fact peculiar to the dual CD, and is better in the DVDs or do we not use radeon-firmeware by default globally? I'd like this discussed in the next meeting. Regards, Shlomi Fish I'd like to add another thing to the meeting topics: The discussion about non-free / tainted, which lasted really long, but AFAICS there is no concensus or decision, and the discussion has effectively reached a standstill. My tries to get this going again have not succeeded so far. For reference, have a look at those: https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006382.html https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/007001.html For some people the situation seems really clear, also to me, this viewpoint is what tmb expressed in his mail: https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006560.html But in the end we need a definitive decision.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
Hi, On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:21:22 +0200 Anne nicolas wrote: > Hi there > > Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h > UTC on #mageia-dev. In between we will work on some burning subjects > (backports incis meetiluded) so that we can take final decisions > during this meeting. > > As usual and as it's a long time we did not have any meeting, you can > propose some topics to be added. We will need a review on current > mentoring (André ?) and secteam (Stew ?). > Well, one thing that had bitten me twice is that with my ATI Radeon HD cards, the Mageia installations from the dual CD were unusable on two computers I tried due to the lack of the "radeon-firmware" package. After I installed that package, and rebuilt the initrds, then the problems were solved. Still, it didn't look good at all. Is this fact peculiar to the dual CD, and is better in the DVDs or do we not use radeon-firmeware by default globally? I'd like this discussed in the next meeting. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ "Star Trek: We, the Living Dead" - http://shlom.in/st-wtld Microsoft — making it all make sense. Ours. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .
Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
Le 16/08/2011 15:21, Anne nicolas a écrit : Hi there Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h UTC on #mageia-dev. In between we will work on some burning subjects (backports incis meetiluded) so that we can take final decisions during this meeting. As usual and as it's a long time we did not have any meeting, you can propose some topics to be added. We will need a review on current mentoring (André ?) and secteam (Stew ?). Thanks for advance Cheers I will be there as well. :-) I'm looking forward to start the documentation project. Thomas.
Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
Anne nicolas a écrit : 2011/8/16 Anne nicolas: Hi there Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h UTC on #mageia-dev. In between we will work on some burning subjects (backports incis meetiluded) so that we can take final decisions during this meeting. hum "(backports included)". Need to go back to vacations... [je pensais que j'ai perdu mon latin ;) Nous sommes tous là ... ] As usual and as it's a long time we did not have any meeting, you can propose some topics to be added. We will need a review on current mentoring (André ?) and secteam (Stew ?). I intend to be there :) BTW, I added a section on conversion at the end of the web:wiki page. (After modifying the packager-mentoring page tables to accommode conversion.) Let me know if I should put it on a separate page (or ?). I'm also interested in helping with the documentation. It might be a good idea to discuss : our packager pages in the new wiki. Thanks for advance Cheers -- Anne http://www.mageia.org Regards :) -- André
Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
On 08/16/2011 09:21 AM, Anne nicolas wrote: Hi there Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h UTC on #mageia-dev. In between we will work on some burning subjects (backports incis meetiluded) so that we can take final decisions during this meeting. As usual and as it's a long time we did not have any meeting, you can propose some topics to be added. We will need a review on current mentoring (André ?) and secteam (Stew ?). Thanks for advance Cheers I most likely will not be in attendance, as that day is my wife's birthday. As for secteam status, it's still a team of one. I have been lax in making new bug reports while dozens of emails come in daily of other distro updates and vulnerabilities. Bugs I did file several weeks ago still sit in NEW state, not moving :( At this point, I'm not sure how much time I personally will be able to commit in the upcoming months as real life has again served up some challenges. -- Stew Benedict
Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 03:54:48PM +0200, philippe makowski wrote: > 2011/8/16 Anne nicolas : > > > > Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h > > UTC on #mageia-dev. > > sorry, I won't be there > have a nice meeting I will in the south during this week, but i'll try to be here with 3G! -- Sandro Cazzaniga - https://lederniercoupdarchet.wordpress.com IRC: Kharec (irc.freenode.net) Software/Hardware geek Conceptor Magnum's Coordinator/editor (http://magnum.tuxfamily.org) Mageia and Mandriva contributor signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
2011/8/16 Anne nicolas : > > Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h > UTC on #mageia-dev. sorry, I won't be there have a nice meeting
Re: [Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
2011/8/16 Anne nicolas : > Hi there > > Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h > UTC on #mageia-dev. In between we will work on some burning subjects > (backports incis meetiluded) so that we can take final decisions > during this meeting. hum "(backports included)". Need to go back to vacations... > > As usual and as it's a long time we did not have any meeting, you can > propose some topics to be added. We will need a review on current > mentoring (André ?) and secteam (Stew ?). > > Thanks for advance > Cheers > > -- > Anne > http://www.mageia.org > -- Anne http://www.mageia.org
[Mageia-dev] Planning next meeting
Hi there Back online. We are planning our next meeting for 24th of august, 19h UTC on #mageia-dev. In between we will work on some burning subjects (backports incis meetiluded) so that we can take final decisions during this meeting. As usual and as it's a long time we did not have any meeting, you can propose some topics to be added. We will need a review on current mentoring (André ?) and secteam (Stew ?). Thanks for advance Cheers -- Anne http://www.mageia.org
