[Mageia-dev] Security Update Process

2011-05-20 Thread Stew Benedict
OK,

Mageia 1 is approaching quickly and we need to get our process in place
for security updates. We talked a bit about it a few weeks ago, and I
started a wiki page, but it needs more detail. Anne and I chatted on IRC
and it looks like we'll want to cutoff the on the iso  updates at the
end of this week, so we need a process in place to release post-iso updates.

ref: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=security

As I see it, initially we need, in no particular order:

1) a means to build updates for the release (iurt setup for mga1?)
2) a means to publish updates (mail list, web page)
3) a means to manage/track the updates (bugzilla?)
4) work out/publish the process so we all know how it works

And then of course we need people to be aware of vulnerabilities as they
are exposed. For now, we'll have be be slightly trailing until we can
show a history of releasing updates and hopefully gain access to the
closed list to get access to embargoed issues. Once that happens we will
possibly need additional infrastructure changes to keep the work
non-public before the embargo date.

osvdb has a nice email aggregator that sends all the distro update
announcements, and the oss-security list has many of the CVE requests.
Unfortunately, my personal time hasn't allowed much more than a quick
read as they go by :/ I know many of you have been doing security
related bug reports and updates, which is great, thank-you. If anyone
wants to take a larger role in managing the process I'm more than happy
to let that happen. While I have experience, the time I'm able to commit
is less than helpful.

Comments, volunteers?

-- 
Stew Benedict
New Tazewell, TN




Re: [Mageia-dev] Security Update Process

2011-05-19 Thread Anne nicolas
2011/5/19 Dexter Morgan dmorga...@gmail.com:
 2011/5/18 Jérôme (saispo) Soyer sai...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Stew Benedict stewbi...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK,

 Mageia 1 is approaching quickly and we need to get our process in place
 for security updates. We talked a bit about it a few weeks ago, and I
 started a wiki page, but it needs more detail. Anne and I chatted on IRC
 and it looks like we'll want to cutoff the on the iso  updates at the
 end of this week, so we need a process in place to release post-iso updates.

 ref: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=security

 As I see it, initially we need, in no particular order:

 1) a means to build updates for the release (iurt setup for mga1?)
 2) a means to publish updates (mail list, web page)
 3) a means to manage/track the updates (bugzilla?)
 4) work out/publish the process so we all know how it works

 And then of course we need people to be aware of vulnerabilities as they
 are exposed. For now, we'll have be be slightly trailing until we can
 show a history of releasing updates and hopefully gain access to the
 closed list to get access to embargoed issues. Once that happens we will
 possibly need additional infrastructure changes to keep the work
 non-public before the embargo date.

 osvdb has a nice email aggregator that sends all the distro update
 announcements, and the oss-security list has many of the CVE requests.
 Unfortunately, my personal time hasn't allowed much more than a quick
 read as they go by :/ I know many of you have been doing security
 related bug reports and updates, which is great, thank-you. If anyone
 wants to take a larger role in managing the process I'm more than happy
 to let that happen. While I have experience, the time I'm able to commit
 is less than helpful.

 Comments, volunteers?



 --
 Stew Benedict
 New Tazewell, TN




 Ok for me to integrate the team, reporting CVE, fixing them quickly as
 i can, and enhancing security in the distro :)


 You can count me in.


I guess you should use
http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=security#members to register

-- 
Anne
http://www.mageia.org


Re: [Mageia-dev] Security Update Process

2011-05-18 Thread saispo
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Stew Benedict stewbi...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK,

 Mageia 1 is approaching quickly and we need to get our process in place
 for security updates. We talked a bit about it a few weeks ago, and I
 started a wiki page, but it needs more detail. Anne and I chatted on IRC
 and it looks like we'll want to cutoff the on the iso  updates at the
 end of this week, so we need a process in place to release post-iso updates.

 ref: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=security

 As I see it, initially we need, in no particular order:

 1) a means to build updates for the release (iurt setup for mga1?)
 2) a means to publish updates (mail list, web page)
 3) a means to manage/track the updates (bugzilla?)
 4) work out/publish the process so we all know how it works

 And then of course we need people to be aware of vulnerabilities as they
 are exposed. For now, we'll have be be slightly trailing until we can
 show a history of releasing updates and hopefully gain access to the
 closed list to get access to embargoed issues. Once that happens we will
 possibly need additional infrastructure changes to keep the work
 non-public before the embargo date.

 osvdb has a nice email aggregator that sends all the distro update
 announcements, and the oss-security list has many of the CVE requests.
 Unfortunately, my personal time hasn't allowed much more than a quick
 read as they go by :/ I know many of you have been doing security
 related bug reports and updates, which is great, thank-you. If anyone
 wants to take a larger role in managing the process I'm more than happy
 to let that happen. While I have experience, the time I'm able to commit
 is less than helpful.

 Comments, volunteers?



 --
 Stew Benedict
 New Tazewell, TN




Ok for me to integrate the team, reporting CVE, fixing them quickly as
i can, and enhancing security in the distro :)


Re: [Mageia-dev] Security Update Process

2011-05-18 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 16 mai 2011 à 18:08 +0200, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
 On 16 May 2011 18:05, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
  Mageia 1 is approaching quickly and we need to get our process in place
  for security updates. We talked a bit about it a few weeks ago, and I
  started a wiki page, but it needs more detail. Anne and I chatted on IRC
  and it looks like we'll want to cutoff the on the iso  updates at the
  end of this week, so we need a process in place to release post-iso 
  updates.
 
  ref: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=security
 
  As I see it, initially we need, in no particular order:
 
  1) a means to build updates for the release (iurt setup for mga1?)
 
  A iurt setup for mga1 will exist anyway, what is missing is a way to
  later upload to non public place.
  Initially, we can just setup youri to restrict submitting a build to
  updates_testing or updates to the secteam and it should be enough.
 
 
  Ideally packagers should be able to submit to update_testing when they
  want to push a fixed package to ask for testing. So restricting
  submitting to updates sounds more logical?
 
 What's more that matches what we were doing back @mdv.
 The process was:
 - trusted packagers upload into main/testing,
 - all packager can upload into contrib/testing,
 - ticket (for main/*) is opened  assigned to qa
 - people || qa test
 - if tests succeed, ticket is assigned to secteam
 - secteam rebuild with its own sig  push the package

I would propose the following :
- packagers can upload to */updates_testing ( with some limitation and
specific check )
- ticket are opened for everything, assigned to QA
- people || qa test 
- if tests are ok, package is moved to */updates

I see no need to rebuild again on a different system, as we do not have
the ressources. 

-- 
Michael Scherer



Re: [Mageia-dev] Security Update Process

2011-05-18 Thread Cazzaniga Sandro
Le 18/05/2011 22:38, Jérôme (saispo) Soyer a écrit :
 On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Stew Benedict stewbi...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK,

 Mageia 1 is approaching quickly and we need to get our process in place
 for security updates. We talked a bit about it a few weeks ago, and I
 started a wiki page, but it needs more detail. Anne and I chatted on IRC
 and it looks like we'll want to cutoff the on the iso  updates at the
 end of this week, so we need a process in place to release post-iso updates.

 ref: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=security

 As I see it, initially we need, in no particular order:

 1) a means to build updates for the release (iurt setup for mga1?)
 2) a means to publish updates (mail list, web page)
 3) a means to manage/track the updates (bugzilla?)
 4) work out/publish the process so we all know how it works

 And then of course we need people to be aware of vulnerabilities as they
 are exposed. For now, we'll have be be slightly trailing until we can
 show a history of releasing updates and hopefully gain access to the
 closed list to get access to embargoed issues. Once that happens we will
 possibly need additional infrastructure changes to keep the work
 non-public before the embargo date.

 osvdb has a nice email aggregator that sends all the distro update
 announcements, and the oss-security list has many of the CVE requests.
 Unfortunately, my personal time hasn't allowed much more than a quick
 read as they go by :/ I know many of you have been doing security
 related bug reports and updates, which is great, thank-you. If anyone
 wants to take a larger role in managing the process I'm more than happy
 to let that happen. While I have experience, the time I'm able to commit
 is less than helpful.

 Comments, volunteers?



 --
 Stew Benedict
 New Tazewell, TN



 
 Ok for me to integrate the team, reporting CVE, fixing them quickly as
 i can, and enhancing security in the distro :)
Ok for me too, integrate the team and work at reporting and fixing CVE,
and/or enhancing security of mga!

-- 
Sandro Cazzaniga - https://lederniercoupdarchet.wordpress.com
IRC: Kharec (irc.freenode.net)
Software/Hardware geek
Conceptor
Magnum's Coordinator/editor (http://wiki.mandriva.com/fr/Magnum)
Mageia and Mandriva contributor


Re: [Mageia-dev] Security Update Process

2011-05-16 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 15:45, Stew Benedict stewbi...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK,

 Mageia 1 is approaching quickly and we need to get our process in place
 for security updates. We talked a bit about it a few weeks ago, and I
 started a wiki page, but it needs more detail. Anne and I chatted on IRC
 and it looks like we'll want to cutoff the on the iso  updates at the
 end of this week, so we need a process in place to release post-iso updates.

 ref: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=security

 As I see it, initially we need, in no particular order:

 1) a means to build updates for the release (iurt setup for mga1?)

A iurt setup for mga1 will exist anyway, what is missing is a way to
later upload to non public place.
Initially, we can just setup youri to restrict submitting a build to
updates_testing or updates to the secteam and it should be enough.

 2) a means to publish updates (mail list, web page)
 3) a means to manage/track the updates (bugzilla?)
 4) work out/publish the process so we all know how it works

 And then of course we need people to be aware of vulnerabilities as they
 are exposed. For now, we'll have be be slightly trailing until we can
 show a history of releasing updates and hopefully gain access to the
 closed list to get access to embargoed issues. Once that happens we will
 possibly need additional infrastructure changes to keep the work
 non-public before the embargo date.

 osvdb has a nice email aggregator that sends all the distro update
 announcements, and the oss-security list has many of the CVE requests.
 Unfortunately, my personal time hasn't allowed much more than a quick
 read as they go by :/ I know many of you have been doing security
 related bug reports and updates, which is great, thank-you. If anyone
 wants to take a larger role in managing the process I'm more than happy
 to let that happen. While I have experience, the time I'm able to commit
 is less than helpful.

 Comments, volunteers?


Re: [Mageia-dev] Security Update Process

2011-05-16 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 16 May 2011 16:57, Pascal Terjan pter...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 15:45, Stew Benedict stewbi...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK,

 Mageia 1 is approaching quickly and we need to get our process in place
 for security updates. We talked a bit about it a few weeks ago, and I
 started a wiki page, but it needs more detail. Anne and I chatted on IRC
 and it looks like we'll want to cutoff the on the iso  updates at the
 end of this week, so we need a process in place to release post-iso updates.

 ref: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=security

 As I see it, initially we need, in no particular order:

 1) a means to build updates for the release (iurt setup for mga1?)

 A iurt setup for mga1 will exist anyway, what is missing is a way to
 later upload to non public place.
 Initially, we can just setup youri to restrict submitting a build to
 updates_testing or updates to the secteam and it should be enough.


Ideally packagers should be able to submit to update_testing when they
want to push a fixed package to ask for testing. So restricting
submitting to updates sounds more logical?

[...]

-- 
Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] Security Update Process

2011-05-16 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 16 May 2011 18:08, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 16 May 2011 18:05, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mageia 1 is approaching quickly and we need to get our process in place
 for security updates. We talked a bit about it a few weeks ago, and I
 started a wiki page, but it needs more detail. Anne and I chatted on IRC
 and it looks like we'll want to cutoff the on the iso  updates at the
 end of this week, so we need a process in place to release post-iso 
 updates.

 ref: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=security

 As I see it, initially we need, in no particular order:

 1) a means to build updates for the release (iurt setup for mga1?)

 A iurt setup for mga1 will exist anyway, what is missing is a way to
 later upload to non public place.
 Initially, we can just setup youri to restrict submitting a build to
 updates_testing or updates to the secteam and it should be enough.


 Ideally packagers should be able to submit to update_testing when they
 want to push a fixed package to ask for testing. So restricting
 submitting to updates sounds more logical?

 What's more that matches what we were doing back @mdv.
 The process was:
 - trusted packagers upload into main/testing,
 - all packager can upload into contrib/testing,

(Off-topic: I am not sure this was the case in mdv in the past
2-3years at least, all packagers could submit into main/testing).

 - ticket (for main/*) is opened  assigned to qa
 - people || qa test
 - if tests succeed, ticket is assigned to secteam
 - secteam rebuild with its own sig  push the package




-- 
Ahmad Samir