Re: [Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 à 01:59 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
 On 8 March 2012 11:31, Anne nicolas enn...@mageia.org wrote:
  Version freeze is now active. As a reminder please have a look here
  https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html
 
  for more details.
 
 For years, the freeze never impacted our own tools since  unless
 packages we are not upstream, we prefer to release than patch
 (which also helps get latest translations).
 Now, drakx* stuff got blocked.

For years, the whole stack have been developped in the last minute. 

 So I would request we relax the freeze for our own stuff.
 else It'll made pushing fixes quite slow  painfull.
 
 In worst case, instead of pushing the stack in ~30mns, it may
 takes days.
 eg if I fix sg in urpmi, I've to wait for someone to actually push urpmi
 before asking to push drakx-installer-stage2 with new urpmi.

Yes. Or you can backport the fix as patch. Or say that's just a bugfix
release. 

 eg if I fix sg in rpm, I've to wait for someone to actually push rpm
 before asking to push perl-URPM to drakx-installer-stage2.

Perl-URPM would not require a version upgrade, so would not need anyone
to push, as well as drakxinstall-stage2.

Since a fix to rpm would be a patch, that's also no a version upgrade.

So for version freeze, there is no need of anything special.

And for release freeze, I would hope that we do not need fix that
requires to rebuild 4 differents rpms. At least not more than once...

 It can become way more painful for eg:
 dietlibc fixkmod|ldetectdrakx-installer-binariesdrakx-installer-images
 eg: if would fix sg in dietlibc for kmod.
 Thus I would have 4 requests with delays between each.
 
 Or enable me to push new perl-URPM/urpmi/drakx* like I was able to
 do in the old days

No, for the aformentioned reasons.

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Re: [Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder

2012-03-10 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 8 March 2012 11:31, Anne nicolas enn...@mageia.org wrote:
 Version freeze is now active. As a reminder please have a look here
 https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html

 for more details.

For years, the freeze never impacted our own tools since  unless
packages we are not upstream, we prefer to release than patch
(which also helps get latest translations).
Now, drakx* stuff got blocked.

So I would request we relax the freeze for our own stuff.
else It'll made pushing fixes quite slow  painfull.

In worst case, instead of pushing the stack in ~30mns, it may
takes days.
eg if I fix sg in urpmi, I've to wait for someone to actually push urpmi
before asking to push drakx-installer-stage2 with new urpmi.

eg if I fix sg in rpm, I've to wait for someone to actually push rpm
before asking to push perl-URPM to drakx-installer-stage2.

It can become way more painful for eg:
dietlibc fixkmod|ldetectdrakx-installer-binariesdrakx-installer-images
eg: if would fix sg in dietlibc for kmod.
Thus I would have 4 requests with delays between each.

Or enable me to push new perl-URPM/urpmi/drakx* like I was able to
do in the old days

We're not that many working on our tool bugs to let us die
of slow pain...
Pushing fixes in the installer usually involves many stages...

In the meantime, please let go in:

1) drakxtools:
- english message improvement (mga#456)
- diskdrake:
  o fix error on removing LVs
  o fix resizing LVs (mga#4666)

2) drakx-installer-stage2:
- explain why acpi, acpid  mageia-gfxboot-theme packages are selected
- install more packages earlier (shorewall  mandi), preventing useless
  installing steps later at summary stage
- partitionning:
  o fix error on removing LVs
  o fix resizing LVs (mga#4666)


Re: [Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder

2012-03-10 Thread Thomas Backlund
11.03.2012 02:59, Thierry Vignaud skrev:
 In the meantime, please let go in:
 
 1) drakxtools:
 - english message improvement (mga#456)
 - diskdrake:
   o fix error on removing LVs
   o fix resizing LVs (mga#4666)
 
 2) drakx-installer-stage2:
 - explain why acpi, acpid  mageia-gfxboot-theme packages are selected
 - install more packages earlier (shorewall  mandi), preventing useless
   installing steps later at summary stage
 - partitionning:
   o fix error on removing LVs
   o fix resizing LVs (mga#4666)

Both pushed.

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Thomas


[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder

2012-03-08 Thread Anne nicolas
Hi there

Version freeze is now active. As a reminder please have a look here
https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html

for more details.

Cheers

-- 
Anne
http://www.mageia.org