Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-19 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 18 July 2011 21:48, Balcaen John mik...@mageia.org wrote:
 On Saturday 16 July 2011 11:06:59 Ahmad Samir wrote:
 [...]
 
  Interesting, that method never really worked before (or at least I never
  tested it).

 It worked since mikala added
 http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kdebase4-runtime/current/SOURCES/
 kdebase-runtime-4.6.0-fedora-support-for-compiz.patch, IIUC.
 Well i guess it's probably more related to the 0.8.8
 we can read in the changelog (available in /usr/share/compiz/NEWS ...)

 Fixed drawing of switcher background with KDE4 window decorator

 And as far as i remember it was not working under Mageia 1( this patch was
 already available).

 Regards,

 --
 Balcaen John


I didn't test, (I don't use compiz); However, it can't work without
that patch, the Exec line was wrong.

-- 
Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-18 Thread Frank Griffin

On 07/16/2011 01:39 PM, Colin Guthrie wrote:

'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 16/07/11 09:06 did gyre and gimble:

On 15 July 2011 23:20, Colin Guthriemag...@colin.guthr.ie  wrote:

'Twas brillig, and Balcaen John at 15/07/11 20:16 did gyre and gimble:


I just finished to push compiz 0.8.8 (works is done by julien)  everything is
working here.
How do you configure compiz ?
Here it's simply working by selecting compiz as the default windows manager
using systemsettings ( kcmshell4 componentchooser  in konsole)

Interesting, that method never really worked before (or at least I never
tested it).


It worked since mikala added
http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kdebase4-runtime/current/SOURCES/kdebase-runtime-4.6.0-fedora-support-for-compiz.patch,
IIUC.

Ahh.

FWIW, I think I always patched compiz to ensure it started the decorator
for you...

So a question is: Is compiz running but without decorations?

If yes, then is the decoration plugin loaded in compiz itself?

If yes, then I'd suggest that either:
  1. Compiz is no longer staring the decorator for some reason.
or
  2. The script compiz-window-decorator is not working.


That's probably the first place to start.



I can't swear that I wasn't running with 0.8.8 before, but I've just 
re-tested with 0.8.8, and now it's working fine.  Thanks to everyone who 
posted !


Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-18 Thread Balcaen John
On Saturday 16 July 2011 11:06:59 Ahmad Samir wrote:
[...]
  
  Interesting, that method never really worked before (or at least I never
  tested it).
 
 It worked since mikala added
 http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kdebase4-runtime/current/SOURCES/
 kdebase-runtime-4.6.0-fedora-support-for-compiz.patch, IIUC.
Well i guess it's probably more related to the 0.8.8
we can read in the changelog (available in /usr/share/compiz/NEWS ...)

Fixed drawing of switcher background with KDE4 window decorator 

And as far as i remember it was not working under Mageia 1( this patch was 
already available).

Regards,

-- 
Balcaen John


Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-16 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 15 July 2011 23:20, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote:
 'Twas brillig, and Balcaen John at 15/07/11 20:16 did gyre and gimble:
 On Friday 15 July 2011 15:06:11 Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 07/15/2011 02:28 PM, Frank Griffin wrote:
 Has anyone else noticed that as of updating yesterday or today, the
 windows in KDE have no titlebars, and cannot be moved or closed
 (except through the individual app) ?

 I used to see this occasionally under GNOME 2.32, but logging out/in
 again usually put it right.  That doesn't work in the current KDE.
 All windows open in the top left of the screen with no enclosing
 frame, i.e. the MenuBar is the topmost thing you see.

 Turning Compiz off gets the titlebars back, but I've had Compiz on for a
 week or more without this problem.  Googling shows that there is some
 conflict between Compiz and KDE, and other distro forums mentioned a
 compiz-kde package.  Has something similar not been rebuilt for the new
 KDE ?
 I just finished to push compiz 0.8.8 (works is done by julien)  everything 
 is
 working here.
 How do you configure compiz ?
 Here it's simply working by selecting compiz as the default windows manager
 using systemsettings ( kcmshell4 componentchooser  in konsole)

 Interesting, that method never really worked before (or at least I never
 tested it).


It worked since mikala added
http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kdebase4-runtime/current/SOURCES/kdebase-runtime-4.6.0-fedora-support-for-compiz.patch,
IIUC.

 Normally, you pick compiz via drak3d

 Col



 --

 Colin Guthrie
 mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
 http://colin.guthr.ie/

 Day Job:
  Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/]
 Open Source:
  Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/]
  PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/]
  Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]




-- 
Ahmad Samir


Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-16 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 16/07/11 09:06 did gyre and gimble:
 On 15 July 2011 23:20, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote:
 'Twas brillig, and Balcaen John at 15/07/11 20:16 did gyre and gimble:
 On Friday 15 July 2011 15:06:11 Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 07/15/2011 02:28 PM, Frank Griffin wrote:
 Has anyone else noticed that as of updating yesterday or today, the
 windows in KDE have no titlebars, and cannot be moved or closed
 (except through the individual app) ?

 I used to see this occasionally under GNOME 2.32, but logging out/in
 again usually put it right.  That doesn't work in the current KDE.
 All windows open in the top left of the screen with no enclosing
 frame, i.e. the MenuBar is the topmost thing you see.

 Turning Compiz off gets the titlebars back, but I've had Compiz on for a
 week or more without this problem.  Googling shows that there is some
 conflict between Compiz and KDE, and other distro forums mentioned a
 compiz-kde package.  Has something similar not been rebuilt for the new
 KDE ?
 I just finished to push compiz 0.8.8 (works is done by julien)  everything 
 is
 working here.
 How do you configure compiz ?
 Here it's simply working by selecting compiz as the default windows manager
 using systemsettings ( kcmshell4 componentchooser  in konsole)

 Interesting, that method never really worked before (or at least I never
 tested it).

 
 It worked since mikala added
 http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kdebase4-runtime/current/SOURCES/kdebase-runtime-4.6.0-fedora-support-for-compiz.patch,
 IIUC.

Ahh.

FWIW, I think I always patched compiz to ensure it started the decorator
for you...

So a question is: Is compiz running but without decorations?

If yes, then is the decoration plugin loaded in compiz itself?

If yes, then I'd suggest that either:
 1. Compiz is no longer staring the decorator for some reason.
or
 2. The script compiz-window-decorator is not working.


That's probably the first place to start.



Col


-- 

Colin Guthrie
mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
http://colin.guthr.ie/

Day Job:
  Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/]
Open Source:
  Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/]
  PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/]
  Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]


[Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-15 Thread Frank Griffin
Has anyone else noticed that as of updating yesterday or today, the 
windows in KDE have no titlebars, and cannot be moved or closed (except 
through the individual app) ?


I used to see this occasionally under GNOME 2.32, but logging out/in 
again usually put it right.  That doesn't work in the current KDE.  All 
windows open in the top left of the screen with no enclosing frame, i.e. 
the MenuBar is the topmost thing you see.


Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-15 Thread Frank Griffin

On 07/15/2011 02:28 PM, Frank Griffin wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that as of updating yesterday or today, the 
windows in KDE have no titlebars, and cannot be moved or closed 
(except through the individual app) ?


I used to see this occasionally under GNOME 2.32, but logging out/in 
again usually put it right.  That doesn't work in the current KDE.  
All windows open in the top left of the screen with no enclosing 
frame, i.e. the MenuBar is the topmost thing you see.




Turning Compiz off gets the titlebars back, but I've had Compiz on for a 
week or more without this problem.  Googling shows that there is some 
conflict between Compiz and KDE, and other distro forums mentioned a 
compiz-kde package.  Has something similar not been rebuilt for the new 
KDE ?


Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-15 Thread Balcaen John
On Friday 15 July 2011 15:06:11 Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 07/15/2011 02:28 PM, Frank Griffin wrote:
  Has anyone else noticed that as of updating yesterday or today, the
  windows in KDE have no titlebars, and cannot be moved or closed
  (except through the individual app) ?
  
  I used to see this occasionally under GNOME 2.32, but logging out/in
  again usually put it right.  That doesn't work in the current KDE.
  All windows open in the top left of the screen with no enclosing
  frame, i.e. the MenuBar is the topmost thing you see.
 
 Turning Compiz off gets the titlebars back, but I've had Compiz on for a
 week or more without this problem.  Googling shows that there is some
 conflict between Compiz and KDE, and other distro forums mentioned a
 compiz-kde package.  Has something similar not been rebuilt for the new
 KDE ?
I just finished to push compiz 0.8.8 (works is done by julien)  everything is 
working here.
How do you configure compiz ?
Here it's simply working by selecting compiz as the default windows manager 
using systemsettings ( kcmshell4 componentchooser  in konsole)

Regards,

-- 
Balcaen John


Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-15 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Balcaen John at 15/07/11 20:16 did gyre and gimble:
 On Friday 15 July 2011 15:06:11 Frank Griffin wrote:
 On 07/15/2011 02:28 PM, Frank Griffin wrote:
 Has anyone else noticed that as of updating yesterday or today, the
 windows in KDE have no titlebars, and cannot be moved or closed
 (except through the individual app) ?

 I used to see this occasionally under GNOME 2.32, but logging out/in
 again usually put it right.  That doesn't work in the current KDE.
 All windows open in the top left of the screen with no enclosing
 frame, i.e. the MenuBar is the topmost thing you see.

 Turning Compiz off gets the titlebars back, but I've had Compiz on for a
 week or more without this problem.  Googling shows that there is some
 conflict between Compiz and KDE, and other distro forums mentioned a
 compiz-kde package.  Has something similar not been rebuilt for the new
 KDE ?
 I just finished to push compiz 0.8.8 (works is done by julien)  everything 
 is 
 working here.
 How do you configure compiz ?
 Here it's simply working by selecting compiz as the default windows manager 
 using systemsettings ( kcmshell4 componentchooser  in konsole)

Interesting, that method never really worked before (or at least I never
tested it).

Normally, you pick compiz via drak3d

Col



-- 

Colin Guthrie
mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
http://colin.guthr.ie/

Day Job:
  Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/]
Open Source:
  Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/]
  PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/]
  Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]


Re: [Mageia-dev] Where is the KDE WM ?

2011-07-15 Thread Balcaen John
On Friday 15 July 2011 22:20:40 Colin Guthrie wrote:
[...]
 
 Interesting, that method never really worked before (or at least I never
 tested it).
It was not working for mageia 1.

 Normally, you pick compiz via drak3d
The last time i used drak3d was during the launch of Metisse  :)


-- 
Balcaen John