Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline

2012-04-21 Thread nicolas vigier
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012, Thierry Vignaud wrote:

 Hi
 
 Please let in mgaonline.

Submitted.

 
 It invalidate urpmi cache on upgrade (mga#1588)
 
 We should either push it as an update to mga1 too or backport that fix
 as an mga1 update.

Yes.



Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-25 Thread Kamil Rytarowski

On 15.03.2012 15:25, n...@gmx.com wrote:

Hi!

Please push mgaonline.

- new tarball 2.77.32
* stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
* replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
* replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
* extend $MGA_YEARS in mgaupdate to 2012
* delete MANDRIVA_VERSION variable as not used
- replace obsolete drakx-newt with drakxtools-curses
- stop using MANDRIVA_VERSION in %install
- rename mandriva-mgaonline.desktop with mageia-mgaonline.desktop
- clean Categories in the .desktop file (remove X-Mandriva-* entry)
- remove %update_desktop_database and %clean_desktop_database (not used anymore)
- remove %update_mime_database and %clean_mime_database (not used anymore)
- clean .spec

ping?



Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-16 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:54:43PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
 On 15.03.2012 22:44, Dan Fandrich wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:15:34PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
 If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have
 our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For
 exactly the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia
 in .desktop files.
 If the formats are identical, then creating a brand-new MIME type is
 unnecessary complication. Server adminstrators who want to serve up
 .bundle files for both Mandriva and Mageia then have to deal with
 sending different two MIME types for files with the same extension.
 Not true! The only thing to deal with is shipping files with the
 same extension.

Think outside of a local machine. Extensions aren't used if something is
served over http. It uses the MIME type. That locally the extension
would be used to determine the MIME type still means it uses the MIME
type.

Locally a MIME type change doesn't have much of an effect. But it does
if your interact with others (http, etc).

-- 
Regards,
Olav


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-16 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 01:10, Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org wrote:
 15.03.2012 22:07, Dan Fandrich kirjoitti:
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote:
 * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
 * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
 * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec

 Replacing Mandriva - Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what
 exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't
 changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be
 modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something
 else.

 +1, we shouldn't change the MIME type here.

Agreed. But it's not that important now: this code portion was a
prototype at the time, has not been used/tested for years (no Kiosk
server serving application/x-mdv-exec since Dec. 2006), and this MIME
type was created for this very use case.

Should we think about some sort of Web-based app store, we'd need to
redesign it from scratch and in a better, modular way (options are not
the same today).


[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread n54
Hi!

 Please push mgaonline.
 - new tarball 2.77.32 * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by 
www.mageia.org (mga#1590) * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in 
gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by 
application/x-mga-exec * extend $MGA_YEARS in mgaupdate to 2012 * delete 
MANDRIVA_VERSION variable as not used - replace obsolete drakx-newt with 
drakxtools-curses - stop using MANDRIVA_VERSION in %install - rename 
mandriva-mgaonline.desktop with mageia-mgaonline.desktop - clean Categories in 
the .desktop file (remove X-Mandriva-* entry) - remove %update_desktop_database 
and %clean_desktop_database (not used anymore) - remove %update_mime_database 
and %clean_mime_database (not used anymore) - clean .spec


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 15 March 2012 15:25,  n...@gmx.com wrote:
 Please push mgaonline.


 - new tarball 2.77.32
 * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)

humm, was in non used helpers but eventually was to be done someday

 * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
 * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
 * extend $MGA_YEARS in mgaupdate to 2012
 * delete MANDRIVA_VERSION variable as not used
 - replace obsolete drakx-newt with drakxtools-curses
 - stop using MANDRIVA_VERSION in %install
 - rename mandriva-mgaonline.desktop with mageia-mgaonline.desktop
 - clean Categories in the .desktop file (remove X-Mandriva-* entry)
 - remove %update_desktop_database and %clean_desktop_database (not used
 anymore)
 - remove %update_mime_database and %clean_mime_database (not used anymore)
 - clean .spec

you should not list all cleanups as reasons to push :-)


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread Dan Fandrich
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote:
 * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
 * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
 * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec

Replacing Mandriva - Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what
exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't
changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be
modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something
else.

 Dan


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 21:07, Dan Fandrich d...@coneharvesters.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote:
 * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
 * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
 * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec

 Replacing Mandriva - Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what
 exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't
 changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be
 modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something
 else.

AFAIR, it used to be for long-dead Kiosk project, several years ago
(Kiosk was declared a dead project by the end of 2006). .bundle files
(downloaded through http) were containing special instructions to
trigger specific urpmi behaviour (adding a media, installing RPMs from
this media). It was not used since.


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread Kamil Rytarowski

On 15.03.2012 21:41, Romain d'Alverny wrote:

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 21:07, Dan Fandrichd...@coneharvesters.com  wrote:

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote:

* stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
* replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
* replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec

Replacing Mandriva -  Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what
exactly is the MIME type used for?

For opening files. It's linked through x-mga-exec for *.bundle files.

If the underlying data format hasn't
changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be
modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something
else.
If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have 
our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For exactly 
the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia in .desktop 
files.

AFAIR, it used to be for long-dead Kiosk project, several years ago
(Kiosk was declared a dead project by the end of 2006). .bundle files
(downloaded through http) were containing special instructions to
trigger specific urpmi behaviour (adding a media, installing RPMs from
this media). It was not used since.
I'm in favor of removing all unneeded parts from mgaonline. There were 
many parts related to megapacks, server editions, club membership. If 
the .bundle is unused then it too can be removed.


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread Romain d'Alverny
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 22:15, Kamil Rytarowski n...@gmx.com wrote:
 I'm in favor of removing all unneeded parts from mgaonline. There were many
 parts related to megapacks, server editions, club membership. If the .bundle
 is unused then it too can be removed.

Yes, but cutting code out of mgaonline must be done carefully (I
believe tv did some cleaning already). Are there functional/features
tests along with the code? That could be a start to ensure no required
feature is broken.


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread Dan Fandrich
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:15:34PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
 If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have
 our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For
 exactly the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia
 in .desktop files.

If the formats are identical, then creating a brand-new MIME type is
unnecessary complication. Server adminstrators who want to serve up
.bundle files for both Mandriva and Mageia then have to deal with
sending different two MIME types for files with the same extension. The MIME
type in /etc/mime.types is guaranteed to be wrong for one distribution
or the other. And so on. But it's an academic argument if this type
isn't actually used for anything.

 Dan


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread Kamil Rytarowski

On 15.03.2012 22:44, Dan Fandrich wrote:

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:15:34PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:

If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have
our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For
exactly the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia
in .desktop files.

If the formats are identical, then creating a brand-new MIME type is
unnecessary complication. Server adminstrators who want to serve up
.bundle files for both Mandriva and Mageia then have to deal with
sending different two MIME types for files with the same extension.
Not true! The only thing to deal with is shipping files with the same 
extension.

  The MIME
type in /etc/mime.types is guaranteed to be wrong for one distribution
or the other. And so on.

Not true.

  But it's an academic argument if this type
isn't actually used for anything.
The only academic thing is overwriting x-mga-* or x-mdv-* by a 3rd party 
source.

Dan




Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread Kamil Rytarowski

On 15.03.2012 22:54, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:

On 15.03.2012 22:44, Dan Fandrich wrote:


  But it's an academic argument if this type
isn't actually used for anything.
The only academic thing is overwriting x-mga-* or x-mdv-* by a 3rd 
party source.
And actually we dropped partly support for Mandriva in mgaonline, so 
this discussion is becoming senseless.


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline

2012-03-15 Thread Anssi Hannula
15.03.2012 22:07, Dan Fandrich kirjoitti:
 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote:
 * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
 * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
 * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
 
 Replacing Mandriva - Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what
 exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't
 changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be
 modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something
 else.

+1, we shouldn't change the MIME type here.

-- 
Anssi Hannula


[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline

2011-05-27 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Hi

please push mgaonline
it fixes media URI on mdv when updating to mga
it also disable features not supported on Mageia but that do exist on mdv:
  Enterprise Media, Extended Maintenance, Restricted media (mga#1153)
and thus can go in the path when updating mdv to mga


[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline

2011-05-23 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Hi

Please push mgaonline:
on Mdv systems, it'll switch mirrorlist API from mdv to mga in %%post (#1153)
so that one can upgrade mdv to mga

Thx


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline

2011-05-23 Thread Anne nicolas
2011/5/23 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com:
 Hi

 Please push mgaonline:
 on Mdv systems, it'll switch mirrorlist API from mdv to mga in %%post (#1153)
 so that one can upgrade mdv to mga

done


 Thx




-- 
Anne
http://www.mageia.org


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline

2011-05-19 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 19 May 2011 03:10, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Please let in mgaonline (security):

 - use https protocol instead of http in order to retrieve distro list
  (like in MDV)

ping?


Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline

2011-05-19 Thread Anne nicolas
2011/5/19 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com:
 On 19 May 2011 03:10, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Please let in mgaonline (security):

 - use https protocol instead of http in order to retrieve distro list
  (like in MDV)

 ping?


done

-- 
Anne
http://www.mageia.org


[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline

2011-05-18 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Hi

Please let in mgaonline (security):

- use https protocol instead of http in order to retrieve distro list
  (like in MDV)