Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Hi Please let in mgaonline. Submitted. It invalidate urpmi cache on upgrade (mga#1588) We should either push it as an update to mga1 too or backport that fix as an mga1 update. Yes.
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
On 15.03.2012 15:25, n...@gmx.com wrote: Hi! Please push mgaonline. - new tarball 2.77.32 * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590) * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec * extend $MGA_YEARS in mgaupdate to 2012 * delete MANDRIVA_VERSION variable as not used - replace obsolete drakx-newt with drakxtools-curses - stop using MANDRIVA_VERSION in %install - rename mandriva-mgaonline.desktop with mageia-mgaonline.desktop - clean Categories in the .desktop file (remove X-Mandriva-* entry) - remove %update_desktop_database and %clean_desktop_database (not used anymore) - remove %update_mime_database and %clean_mime_database (not used anymore) - clean .spec ping?
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:54:43PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: On 15.03.2012 22:44, Dan Fandrich wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:15:34PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For exactly the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia in .desktop files. If the formats are identical, then creating a brand-new MIME type is unnecessary complication. Server adminstrators who want to serve up .bundle files for both Mandriva and Mageia then have to deal with sending different two MIME types for files with the same extension. Not true! The only thing to deal with is shipping files with the same extension. Think outside of a local machine. Extensions aren't used if something is served over http. It uses the MIME type. That locally the extension would be used to determine the MIME type still means it uses the MIME type. Locally a MIME type change doesn't have much of an effect. But it does if your interact with others (http, etc). -- Regards, Olav
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 01:10, Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org wrote: 15.03.2012 22:07, Dan Fandrich kirjoitti: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote: * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590) * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec Replacing Mandriva - Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something else. +1, we shouldn't change the MIME type here. Agreed. But it's not that important now: this code portion was a prototype at the time, has not been used/tested for years (no Kiosk server serving application/x-mdv-exec since Dec. 2006), and this MIME type was created for this very use case. Should we think about some sort of Web-based app store, we'd need to redesign it from scratch and in a better, modular way (options are not the same today).
[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
Hi! Please push mgaonline. - new tarball 2.77.32 * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590) * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec * extend $MGA_YEARS in mgaupdate to 2012 * delete MANDRIVA_VERSION variable as not used - replace obsolete drakx-newt with drakxtools-curses - stop using MANDRIVA_VERSION in %install - rename mandriva-mgaonline.desktop with mageia-mgaonline.desktop - clean Categories in the .desktop file (remove X-Mandriva-* entry) - remove %update_desktop_database and %clean_desktop_database (not used anymore) - remove %update_mime_database and %clean_mime_database (not used anymore) - clean .spec
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
On 15 March 2012 15:25, n...@gmx.com wrote: Please push mgaonline. - new tarball 2.77.32 * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590) humm, was in non used helpers but eventually was to be done someday * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec * extend $MGA_YEARS in mgaupdate to 2012 * delete MANDRIVA_VERSION variable as not used - replace obsolete drakx-newt with drakxtools-curses - stop using MANDRIVA_VERSION in %install - rename mandriva-mgaonline.desktop with mageia-mgaonline.desktop - clean Categories in the .desktop file (remove X-Mandriva-* entry) - remove %update_desktop_database and %clean_desktop_database (not used anymore) - remove %update_mime_database and %clean_mime_database (not used anymore) - clean .spec you should not list all cleanups as reasons to push :-)
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote: * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590) * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec Replacing Mandriva - Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something else. Dan
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 21:07, Dan Fandrich d...@coneharvesters.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote: * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590) * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec Replacing Mandriva - Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something else. AFAIR, it used to be for long-dead Kiosk project, several years ago (Kiosk was declared a dead project by the end of 2006). .bundle files (downloaded through http) were containing special instructions to trigger specific urpmi behaviour (adding a media, installing RPMs from this media). It was not used since.
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
On 15.03.2012 21:41, Romain d'Alverny wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 21:07, Dan Fandrichd...@coneharvesters.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote: * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590) * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec Replacing Mandriva - Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what exactly is the MIME type used for? For opening files. It's linked through x-mga-exec for *.bundle files. If the underlying data format hasn't changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something else. If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For exactly the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia in .desktop files. AFAIR, it used to be for long-dead Kiosk project, several years ago (Kiosk was declared a dead project by the end of 2006). .bundle files (downloaded through http) were containing special instructions to trigger specific urpmi behaviour (adding a media, installing RPMs from this media). It was not used since. I'm in favor of removing all unneeded parts from mgaonline. There were many parts related to megapacks, server editions, club membership. If the .bundle is unused then it too can be removed.
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 22:15, Kamil Rytarowski n...@gmx.com wrote: I'm in favor of removing all unneeded parts from mgaonline. There were many parts related to megapacks, server editions, club membership. If the .bundle is unused then it too can be removed. Yes, but cutting code out of mgaonline must be done carefully (I believe tv did some cleaning already). Are there functional/features tests along with the code? That could be a start to ensure no required feature is broken.
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:15:34PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For exactly the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia in .desktop files. If the formats are identical, then creating a brand-new MIME type is unnecessary complication. Server adminstrators who want to serve up .bundle files for both Mandriva and Mageia then have to deal with sending different two MIME types for files with the same extension. The MIME type in /etc/mime.types is guaranteed to be wrong for one distribution or the other. And so on. But it's an academic argument if this type isn't actually used for anything. Dan
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
On 15.03.2012 22:44, Dan Fandrich wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:15:34PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For exactly the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia in .desktop files. If the formats are identical, then creating a brand-new MIME type is unnecessary complication. Server adminstrators who want to serve up .bundle files for both Mandriva and Mageia then have to deal with sending different two MIME types for files with the same extension. Not true! The only thing to deal with is shipping files with the same extension. The MIME type in /etc/mime.types is guaranteed to be wrong for one distribution or the other. And so on. Not true. But it's an academic argument if this type isn't actually used for anything. The only academic thing is overwriting x-mga-* or x-mdv-* by a 3rd party source. Dan
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
On 15.03.2012 22:54, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: On 15.03.2012 22:44, Dan Fandrich wrote: But it's an academic argument if this type isn't actually used for anything. The only academic thing is overwriting x-mga-* or x-mdv-* by a 3rd party source. And actually we dropped partly support for Mandriva in mgaonline, so this discussion is becoming senseless.
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
15.03.2012 22:07, Dan Fandrich kirjoitti: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, n...@gmx.com wrote: * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590) * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec Replacing Mandriva - Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something else. +1, we shouldn't change the MIME type here. -- Anssi Hannula
[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline
Hi please push mgaonline it fixes media URI on mdv when updating to mga it also disable features not supported on Mageia but that do exist on mdv: Enterprise Media, Extended Maintenance, Restricted media (mga#1153) and thus can go in the path when updating mdv to mga
[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline
Hi Please push mgaonline: on Mdv systems, it'll switch mirrorlist API from mdv to mga in %%post (#1153) so that one can upgrade mdv to mga Thx
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline
2011/5/23 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: Hi Please push mgaonline: on Mdv systems, it'll switch mirrorlist API from mdv to mga in %%post (#1153) so that one can upgrade mdv to mga done Thx -- Anne http://www.mageia.org
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline
On 19 May 2011 03:10, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Please let in mgaonline (security): - use https protocol instead of http in order to retrieve distro list (like in MDV) ping?
Re: [Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline
2011/5/19 Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com: On 19 May 2011 03:10, Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Please let in mgaonline (security): - use https protocol instead of http in order to retrieve distro list (like in MDV) ping? done -- Anne http://www.mageia.org
[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mgaonline
Hi Please let in mgaonline (security): - use https protocol instead of http in order to retrieve distro list (like in MDV)