Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-15 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 12 mars 2011 à 11:35 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
 Op zaterdag 12 maart 2011 09:27:54 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
  On 11 March 2011 12:19, Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote:
   stormi stormi 3.8.8-2.mga1:
   + Revision: 68228
   - clean spec
   - imported package playonlinux
  
  This is bogus as in Mandriva.
  It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
  by removing wine64 in favor of wine.
 
 afaik, wine64 only supports executing 64bit windows executables. and is kind 
 of useless atm.


I think there is specialized applications that would requires 64 bits. 
For example, photoshop has a 64 bits version. Matlab may also have
( even if in this case, there is a linux version ).
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Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-15 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 12.03.2011 12:12, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
 Le samedi 12 mars 2011 09:27:54, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
 On 11 March 2011 12:19, Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote:
 stormi stormi 3.8.8-2.mga1:
 + Revision: 68228
 - clean spec
 - imported package playonlinux

 This is bogus as in Mandriva.
 It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
 by removing wine64 in favor of wine.
 
 What would be the solution ? I must admit I didn't know this problem in 
 Mandriva because I have only i586 systems.

If you want playonlinux to always depend on 32-bit wine, while allowing
64-bit installations to have both 32-bit and 64-bit wine, you can use
requires on wine32.

If, on the other hand, you want playonlinux to depend on any wine
regardless of bitness, you can use requires on wine-bin (note that
64-bit wine can't execute win32 applications without wine32 package
aka 32-bit wine).

Using simply requires on wine prevents installation of 64-bit wine
completely, so it is therefore wrong.

 Playonlinux requires wine and wine-full (both provided by wine, and wine-full 
 being an explicit Requires you added some months ago, from the changelog). 
 Does wine64 provide those ? Is the requires on wine the problem ?
 
 Best regards
 
 Samuel Verschelde


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Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 11 March 2011 12:19, Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote:
 stormi stormi 3.8.8-2.mga1:
 + Revision: 68228
 - clean spec
 - imported package playonlinux

This is bogus as in Mandriva.
It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
by removing wine64 in favor of wine.


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 12 maart 2011 09:27:54 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
 On 11 March 2011 12:19, Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote:
  stormi stormi 3.8.8-2.mga1:
  + Revision: 68228
  - clean spec
  - imported package playonlinux
 
 This is bogus as in Mandriva.
 It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
 by removing wine64 in favor of wine.

afaik, wine64 only supports executing 64bit windows executables. and is kind 
of useless atm.


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 12 March 2011 11:35, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:
  stormi stormi 3.8.8-2.mga1:
  + Revision: 68228
  - clean spec
  - imported package playonlinux

 This is bogus as in Mandriva.
 It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
 by removing wine64 in favor of wine.

 afaik, wine64 only supports executing 64bit windows executables. and is kind
 of useless atm.

That's not the point.
One may want to have both:
- wine64 in order to run 64biut windows program
- playonlinux in order to play 32bit stuff


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le samedi 12 mars 2011 12:22:47, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
 On 12 March 2011 11:35, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:
   stormi stormi 3.8.8-2.mga1:
   + Revision: 68228
   - clean spec
   - imported package playonlinux
  
  This is bogus as in Mandriva.
  It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
  by removing wine64 in favor of wine.
  
  afaik, wine64 only supports executing 64bit windows executables. and is
  kind of useless atm.
 
 That's not the point.
 One may want to have both:
 - wine64 in order to run 64biut windows program
 - playonlinux in order to play 32bit stuff

Then isn't the problem that wine and wine64 can't be both installed ? And 
isn't there a way to allow that ?

Samuel


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 12 maart 2011 12:35:57 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
 Le samedi 12 mars 2011 12:22:47, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
  On 12 March 2011 11:35, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:
stormi stormi 3.8.8-2.mga1:
+ Revision: 68228
- clean spec
- imported package playonlinux
   
   This is bogus as in Mandriva.
   It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64
   by removing wine64 in favor of wine.
   
   afaik, wine64 only supports executing 64bit windows executables. and is
   kind of useless atm.
  
  That's not the point.
  One may want to have both:
  - wine64 in order to run 64biut windows program
  - playonlinux in order to play 32bit stuff
 
 Then isn't the problem that wine and wine64 can't be both installed ? And
 isn't there a way to allow that ?
 
 Samuel

afaik not, it's an upstream thing. perhaps you can find more info on the wine 
FAQ/bugzilla


Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Tux99


Quote: Samuel Verschelde wrote on Sat, 12 March 2011 12:35

 Then isn't the problem that wine and wine64 can't be both installed ?
 And 
 isn't there a way to allow that ?

but they can be, or at least the current Mageia packages allow it:

$ rpm -qa|grep wine
wine64-1.3.15-1.mga1
wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
wine32-1.3.15-1.mga1
lib64kwineffects1-4.6.1-1.mga1
$

I didn't force anything they both installed cleanly along each other.


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Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 12 March 2011 20:49, Tux99 tux99-...@uridium.org wrote:


 Quote: Samuel Verschelde wrote on Sat, 12 March 2011 12:35

 Then isn't the problem that wine and wine64 can't be both installed ?
 And
 isn't there a way to allow that ?

 but they can be, or at least the current Mageia packages allow it:

 $ rpm -qa|grep wine
 wine64-1.3.15-1.mga1
 wine-gecko-1.1.0-2.mga1
 wine32-1.3.15-1.mga1
 lib64kwineffects1-4.6.1-1.mga1
 $

 I didn't force anything they both installed cleanly along each other.


But you can't install 'wine' and 'wine64' at the same time.

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Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1

2011-03-12 Thread Tux99


Quote: Ahmad Samir wrote on Sat, 12 March 2011 21:16

 
 But you can't install 'wine' and 'wine64' at the same time.

True I didn't even realise that there is also a 'wine' package in addition
to 'wine64' and 'wine32'.
'wine32' seems to contain all that's needed to run win32 apps (at least I
have used it here on my Mageia x86_64 box to run a few win32 apps without
problems) so I haven't felt any need for this other 'wine' package so
far.

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