Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-06 Thread Bertaux Xavier
yes and last night after installing the new kernel 3.3.0rc,
dkms fails to build dkms-nvidia for this kernel.

Cheers
Xavier

Le 06/03/2012 10:45, Robert Fox a écrit :
 This was fixed once, but since the latest kernel updates (3.3.0) - the 
 problem has returned:


 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.

 checking in dmesg - I see that the nouveau driver grabs the card before
 the nvidia driver can - but trying to remove the nouveau driver wants to
 remove over 800 packages!

 How can I get the nvidia proprietary driver back??

 Thx,
 R.Fox





Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-06 Thread Barry Jackson

On 06/03/12 09:45, Robert Fox wrote:

This was fixed once, but since the latest kernel updates (3.3.0) - the problem 
has returned:


Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
loaded.

checking in dmesg - I see that the nouveau driver grabs the card before
the nvidia driver can - but trying to remove the nouveau driver wants to
remove over 800 packages!

How can I get the nvidia proprietary driver back??

Thx,
R.Fox




You could try blacklisting the nouveau module - but that won't fix the 
underlying issue - it may however get you working as a temporary fix ;)


Barry


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-06 Thread EatDirt

On 02/03/12 22:44, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:


AFAIK you need to reconfigure your system to use the proprietary modules...


Yes, that's to be expected anyway. Thx



Or tweak harddrake to let you in peace with X and video;

checkout /etc/sysconfig/harddrake2/service.conf

AUTORECONFIGURE_RIGHT_XORG_DRIVER=no
DETECT_VIDEO=no

cheers,
Chris.



Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/6 EatDirt dirt...@gmail.com:
 On 02/03/12 22:44, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

 AFAIK you need to reconfigure your system to use the proprietary
 modules...


 Yes, that's to be expected anyway. Thx


 Or tweak harddrake to let you in peace with X and video;

 checkout /etc/sysconfig/harddrake2/service.conf

 AUTORECONFIGURE_RIGHT_XORG_DRIVER=no
 DETECT_VIDEO=no

No, this is no practical solution for the long run. I need the
proprietary driver working correctly. So I need to know if something
is wrong, so I can start repairing (or reporting).

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-03 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/3 Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com:
 2012/3/3 Barry Jackson zen25...@zen.co.uk:
 On 02/03/12 16:53, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

 2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornathmolc...@googlemail.com:

 whould be fixed with coming updates.


 should be fixed
 Sorry.

 Seems this was not the problem for you, but my FX series card has had no
 nvidia available since x11 was updated before Christmas.
 I think I need a new graphic card :(

 Well, I don't know, but after last update tonight (mirror sync status
 23:01 Paris time) the complete system which was working fine is now
 hosed anyway.

 1. Nouveau driver still there (although I tried with XFdrake to get
 the nvidia re-installed), but that did not make my system unusable
 before
 2. wifi connection totally lost (not possible to get a connection,
 whichever way I tried)
 3. After system start the system now displays a message that it can
 not start Gnome 3 because my graphic system is possibly not able to
 run in normal Gnome 3, so it starts in a somehow compatibility mode.
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf shows that the nouveau driver is working, which
 never had problems with Gnome 3.
 4. I switched to tty2, and was presented with my keyboard now writing
 in black! Trying to write 'asdf' does not show any character but
 hitting enter returns 'asdf: command not found

 Points 2, 3, 4 occurred at reboot after the update.
 I'll call it a day...

After todays updates the issues are resolved:

1. After reconfiguring X and reboot the proprietary driver was
accepted and Gnome 3 started without problems
2. After removing all net connections and recreating wlan0 (in MCC
without enabling networkmanager) wifi is working again
3. Input on ttys is back to white on black

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread EatDirt

On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:

Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
loaded.



+1
Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add

nokmsboot

in the boot arguments?

chris.



Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/2 EatDirt dirt...@gmail.com:
 On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:

 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.


 +1
 Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add

 nokmsboot

 in the boot arguments?

Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to nouveau).
Re-changed the display driver to nvidia and added nokmsboot to the
boot args, next boot same pb again.

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Robert Fox
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 16:44 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 2012/3/2 EatDirt dirt...@gmail.com:
  On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
 
  Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
  now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
  loaded.
 
 
  +1
  Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
 
  nokmsboot
 
  in the boot arguments?
 
 Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to nouveau).
 Re-changed the display driver to nvidia and added nokmsboot to the
 boot args, next boot same pb again.
 

I will file a bug report . . .





Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Bertaux Xavier
Le 02/03/2012 16:44, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
 2012/3/2 EatDirt dirt...@gmail.com:
 On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.

 +1
 Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add

 nokmsboot

 in the boot arguments?
 Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to nouveau).
 Re-changed the display driver to nvidia and added nokmsboot to the
 boot args, next boot same pb again.
+1

Xavier



Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Bertaux Xavier
and I think both nvidia and fglrx tickets are the same problem

Xavier

Le 02/03/2012 17:27, Bertaux Xavier a écrit :
 Le 02/03/2012 16:44, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
 2012/3/2 EatDirt dirt...@gmail.com:
 On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.

 +1
 Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add

 nokmsboot

 in the boot arguments?
 Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to nouveau).
 Re-changed the display driver to nvidia and added nokmsboot to the
 boot args, next boot same pb again.
 +1

 Xavier


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Barry Jackson

On 02/03/12 16:31, Bertaux Xavier wrote:

and I think both nvidia and fglrx tickets are the same problem

Xavier

Le 02/03/2012 17:27, Bertaux Xavier a écrit :

Le 02/03/2012 16:44, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :

2012/3/2 EatDirtdirt...@gmail.com:

On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:

Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
loaded.


+1
Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add

nokmsboot

in the boot arguments?

Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to nouveau).
Re-changed the display driver to nvidia and added nokmsboot to the
boot args, next boot same pb again.

+1

Xavier


IIANM this is now the default behavior when the x11-server version is 
updated to a version not supported by the current proprietary nvidia driver.

It avoids a boot failure which would otherwise be the scenario.

Barry


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/2 Barry Jackson zen25...@zen.co.uk:
 On 02/03/12 16:31, Bertaux Xavier wrote:

 and I think both nvidia and fglrx tickets are the same problem

 Xavier

 Le 02/03/2012 17:27, Bertaux Xavier a écrit :

 Le 02/03/2012 16:44, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :

 2012/3/2 EatDirtdirt...@gmail.com:

 On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:

 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system
 which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.

 +1
 Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add

 nokmsboot

 in the boot arguments?

 Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to
 nouveau).
 Re-changed the display driver to nvidia and added nokmsboot to the
 boot args, next boot same pb again.

 +1

 Xavier


 IIANM this is now the default behavior when the x11-server version is
 updated to a version not supported by the current proprietary nvidia driver.
 It avoids a boot failure which would otherwise be the scenario.

Reasonable behavior, so to avoid this the x11-server should always
match the current proprietary driver. In other words: either one
whould be fixed with coming updates.

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com:
 whould be fixed with coming updates.

should be fixed
Sorry.

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Anssi Hannula
02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.

Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
compressed proprietary driver modules properly.

-- 
Anssi Hannula


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Anssi Hannula
02.03.2012 21:06, Wolfgang Bornath kirjoitti:
 2012/3/2 Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org:
 02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.

 Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
 compressed proprietary driver modules properly.
 
 Which means, as soon as we get the new harddrake version in updates
 the issue is (should be) gone?

Yes, except that you have to switch back to the proprietary driver
yourself with XFdrake.

-- 
Anssi Hannula


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Backlund
02.03.2012 21:06, Wolfgang Bornath skrev:
 2012/3/2 Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org:
 02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.

 Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
 compressed proprietary driver modules properly.
 
 Which means, as soon as we get the new harddrake version in updates
 the issue is (should be) gone?
 

AFAIK you need to reconfigure your system to use the proprietary modules...

--
Thomas



Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/2 Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org:
 02.03.2012 21:06, Wolfgang Bornath skrev:
 2012/3/2 Anssi Hannula an...@mageia.org:
 02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
 Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
 now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
 loaded.

 Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
 compressed proprietary driver modules properly.

 Which means, as soon as we get the new harddrake version in updates
 the issue is (should be) gone?


 AFAIK you need to reconfigure your system to use the proprietary modules...

Yes, that's to be expected anyway. Thx

-- 
wobo


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Barry Jackson

On 02/03/12 16:53, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornathmolc...@googlemail.com:

whould be fixed with coming updates.


should be fixed
Sorry.

Seems this was not the problem for you, but my FX series card has had no 
nvidia available since x11 was updated before Christmas.

I think I need a new graphic card :(


Re: [Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates

2012-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/3/3 Barry Jackson zen25...@zen.co.uk:
 On 02/03/12 16:53, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:

 2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornathmolc...@googlemail.com:

 whould be fixed with coming updates.


 should be fixed
 Sorry.

 Seems this was not the problem for you, but my FX series card has had no
 nvidia available since x11 was updated before Christmas.
 I think I need a new graphic card :(

Well, I don't know, but after last update tonight (mirror sync status
23:01 Paris time) the complete system which was working fine is now
hosed anyway.

1. Nouveau driver still there (although I tried with XFdrake to get
the nvidia re-installed), but that did not make my system unusable
before
2. wifi connection totally lost (not possible to get a connection,
whichever way I tried)
3. After system start the system now displays a message that it can
not start Gnome 3 because my graphic system is possibly not able to
run in normal Gnome 3, so it starts in a somehow compatibility mode.
/etc/X11/xorg.conf shows that the nouveau driver is working, which
never had problems with Gnome 3.
4. I switched to tty2, and was presented with my keyboard now writing
in black! Trying to write 'asdf' does not show any character but
hitting enter returns 'asdf: command not found

Points 2, 3, 4 occurred at reboot after the update.
I'll call it a day...

-- 
wobo