Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.X CVS MAIN is back

2005-08-31 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 01:38, Tokio Kikuchi wrote:

 I've done backporting the changes in Release_2_1-maint into the MAIN
 branch which was not updated more than a year and this has caused
 confusion for the people who want to try CVS checkout.  For I was a
 little bit tired of maintaining two branches (or of the pressure to do
 so) I want to check in to the MAIN branch only hereafter, although some
 serious security bug fix (if any) should be committed in the 2.1 branch.
 
 I believe the MAIN CVS checkout is now ready to be tested but plese let
 me know if you notice something.

I'd like to add my thanks to Terri's for your work here!  I haven't
looked at the trunk yet, but this was work that was definitely necessary
to get MM2.2 on track.

I'd like to open the discussion now about Python version support in
MM2.2.  My strong desire is to require at least Python 2.4 for MM2.2. 
Python 2.4 is 10 months old and a second patch release will probably
come out within a few months.  There's no question about its maturity
and stability.  As soon as Python 2.5 comes out (if history is any
indication, that will be about 8 months from now), Python 2.3 will be
officially become unsupported.

At the very least, we must drop Python 2.1 and 2.2.  Neither of those
versions are being supported any longer and I will definitely not claim
to have tested the current code base on either version in a very long
time.  If we must continue to support Python 2.3, so be it, but I'd like
to leapfrog even that version.  There are several Python 2.4 constructs
and modules that I'd dearly love to be able to take advantage of.

-Barry



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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.X CVS MAIN is back

2005-08-31 Thread John W. Baxter
On 8/31/05 8:11 AM, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At the very least, we must drop Python 2.1 and 2.2.  Neither of those
 versions are being supported any longer and I will definitely not claim
 to have tested the current code base on either version in a very long
 time.  If we must continue to support Python 2.3, so be it, but I'd like
 to leapfrog even that version.  There are several Python 2.4 constructs
 and modules that I'd dearly love to be able to take advantage of.

It seems to me that the improved email module is enough reason to require
Python 2.4.  (We moved our email processing to 2.4 for that reason.)

Yes, one can--as I understand it--use the new email module under Python 2.3,
but if one has institutional issues that prevent using Python 2.4 they
probably prevent messing about with 2.3 in that sort of way, as well.

  --John


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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.X CVS MAIN is back

2005-08-31 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 12:33, John W. Baxter wrote:

 It seems to me that the improved email module is enough reason to require
 Python 2.4.  (We moved our email processing to 2.4 for that reason.)

'Zackly!
-Barry



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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.X CVS MAIN is back

2005-08-31 Thread Bryan Fullerton
On 8/31/05, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At the very least, we must drop Python 2.1 and 2.2. 

+1

 If we must continue to support Python 2.3, so be it, but I'd like
 to leapfrog even that version.  There are several Python 2.4 constructs
 and modules that I'd dearly love to be able to take advantage of.

I'm fine with ditching support for Python 2.3. My primary concern is
what's supported in FreeBSD ports, and it's been at Python 2.4 for 9
months now.

I'm sure there will be some complaints from people running
Enterprise operating systems that are locked at older versions of
Python. These could be alleviated if there was critical issue support
for a MM2.1 maintenance branch for some period (not sure if anyone has
time for this), or they could just be told they're out of luck.

Bryan
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 2.X CVS MAIN is back

2005-08-31 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 14:52, Bryan Fullerton wrote:

 I'm sure there will be some complaints from people running
 Enterprise operating systems that are locked at older versions of
 Python. These could be alleviated if there was critical issue support
 for a MM2.1 maintenance branch for some period (not sure if anyone has
 time for this), or they could just be told they're out of luck.

Agreed.  Hopefully, we can continue to fix critical problems in 2.1 for
some time after 2.2 is released.

-Barry


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[Mailman-Developers] Public archives

2005-08-31 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Gang,

I've got one mailing list for a customer who wants public archives.  The box 
hosts many sites, and 
he wants his domain in the URL for the archives.  This isn't a problem for 
private archives, but 
there doesn't seem to be a way to set the URL for public archives.

I recall we hashed this one over a while ago, but was there ever a solution?

Bob

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[Mailman-Developers] Bad Address Syntax

2005-08-31 Thread Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One more thing: just caught this today, with the current stable release:

in logs/smtp-failure:
smtp-failure:Aug 28 17:28:31 2005 (1433) All recipients refused: {'randiminetor@
highfallsfilmfe...': (501, 'Bad address syntax')}, msgid: 1b89848bfc55965b74421
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
smtp-failure:Aug 28 17:29:18 2005 (1433) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
e... failed with code 501: Bad address syntax

I assume it is abbreviating the email address, because I am certain the sender 
is using the proper 
email address.  What might be causing the error?

Bob

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