Re: [Mailman-Developers] Event notifications
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 09:38:00PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: I've taken a mostly organic approach to adding new events, adding them only when needed internally. I'm open to adding new event notifications as necessary to support add-ons or new internal functionality. The way to request this is via the Launchpad bug tracker. Thanks for the response. I requested this via Launchpad [1]. [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1047286 -- George Chatzisofroniou sophron.latthi.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] 3.0.0b1 fails bootstrap.py on Mountain Lion
Greg, First, let me address your choice of versions. Although the mail handling part of MM3 seems to be in pretty good shape, the Web UI still has quite a bit that hasn't been fleshed out. Traffic volume is not really a concern. If anything, the high traffic installations might be more inclined to prefer the MM3 architecture. Depending on how much you need the Web UI, you may prefer to stick with MM2 (unless you would like to help us finish parts of the Postorius interface). As for recreating my work-around, I will provide additional details in response to the other sub-thread of this discussion. - Richard Wacky Wackerbarth On Sep 6, 2012, at 10:54 PM, G B wrote: Hey Richard— How hard would it be to recreate your solution? Could I bumble my way through it with no Mailman, no Zope, and limited Python experience? Maybe the first question I should ask is whether I should be trying the beta, or if I should stick to the 2.x release. I chose the beta to start with because I don't expect this to be a high traffic system and I'd hoped to gain the benefit of the new web interface and save the trouble of updating from 2-3 later. Thanks— Greg On Sep 6, 2012, at 8:23 PM, Richard Wackerbarth rich...@nfsnet.org wrote: Barry, I have 10.7 and, today, I had the same problem. Yesterday, I was able to set things up without any problems. I think that the difference is that z3c.recipe.tag has bumped the version number to 0.5 but that the distribution is missing one of its files. By manually downloading the package, I was able to fake the missing CHANGES.txt file and pre-install the module. After that, the install worked just fine. The Postorius install still needs some additional tweaking to make it work out of the box, but it is progressing. Richard On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:05 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Sep 06, 2012, at 11:11 AM, G B wrote: I initially posted this to mailman-users, but it was suggested that this would be a better list. I'm installing Mailman for the first time, and chose to try the beta. I'm installing on a Mountain Lion Server, that was cleanly installed. I've since updated the OS to 10.8.1 I got as far as 'python bootstrap.py' and it failed immediately with the following traceback: I don't have OS X 10.8 yet, but I tried it on my 10.6.8 machine, using MacPorts' Python 2.7. I was able to bootstrap, but bin/buildout failed downloading one of the zc recipes. I don't have much in /opt/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages and I didn't spend much time debugging the problem. However, I was able to create a virtualenv and do a `python setup.py install` into that virtualenv just fine. I tested with `mailman info` but didn't try to much else. I'm guessing it's something weird with 10.8's built-in Python 2.7. Cheers, -Barry ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/richard%40nfsnet.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/g.c.b.at.work%40gmail.com Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/richard%40nfsnet.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] 3.0.0b1 fails bootstrap.py on Mountain Lion
In response to an inquiry concerning just what I did to get MM3 built yesterday: First, I note that I have chosen to create two separate virtual environments for the installation. One is postorius which has the web interface, and the other is mailman into which I install just the mail-handling part. I do this because these two components are logically separate and, by design, might be installed on separate host machines. The mailman environment gets its sources from the lp:mailman repository. All of the other parts mentioned in the wiki installation guide go into the postorius environment. The failure in the mailman installation (as of 6 Sep 2012) seems to result from a bad distribution package for z3c.recipe.tag, version 0.5. After creating the mailman virtual environment, you can work around this by pre-installing this package before you run the (bootstrap/setup) for the mailman module. Working in the virtual environment where you will install mailman: First attempt to install z3c.recipe.tag $ pip install z3c.recipe.tag This will fail with a message like: (Note that I redacted part of the path. You should use the full path as reported on your own installation) IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/ ... /z3c.recipe.tag/CHANGES.txt' Create that file $ touch / ... /z3c.recipe.tag/CHANGES.txt Now, try the installation again $ pip install z3c.recipe.tag This should succeed and you should then be able to complete the buildout of mailman. Richard Wacky Wackerbarth On Sep 6, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Sep 06, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: I have 10.7 and, today, I had the same problem. Yesterday, I was able to set things up without any problems. I think that the difference is that z3c.recipe.tag has bumped the version number to 0.5 but that the distribution is missing one of its files. Yep. I sent a message off to zope-dev (the maintainer address in the setup.py) and distutils-sig (where buildout folks hang out). I couldn't find a bug tracker for the package. Let's hope a new version gets uploaded soon. By manually downloading the package, I was able to fake the missing CHANGES.txt file and pre-install the module. Nice workaround, thanks! ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Developers] Event notifications
On Sep 07, 2012, at 02:25 PM, George Chatzisofroniou wrote: [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1047286 I've added the mailman3 tag. Cheers, -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
