Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.0 todo list

2013-08-09 Thread nkarageuz...@gmail.com
Hi,

I'm looking forward mailman 3 to find efficient archive UI, with posting
from web feature (just like in http://groupserver.org/)

I don't know if it's in the roadmap, from the archive i can read

The archiver and the web interface are at best early beta, but there
are running prototypes.  You can substitute a 3rd party service
likemail-archive.com if that is satisfactory.

( ref
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2013-July/023197.html)

and in the todo (http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Mailman+3.0)

i've read the paragraph about archiving but not found mention of such
feature.

I'm confident with python and could start some points, but i may need
orientation or tricks to start over.

I've cloned the repository mailman and watched the src/mailman/archiving
dir.

Looks like a good starting point for inserting messages in postgresql.

The questions i have are :

Should i consider pipermail or Postorious for rendering ?

or start brand new project for dynamic and interactive web archive
interface ?

Best regards

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.0 todo list

2013-08-12 Thread nkarageuz...@gmail.com
Hi Steeve,

Thank-you for spending some time answering my noob question.

I've found hyperkitty after reading many docs.

It's great and i have submitted pull request for it.

Best regards


2013/8/12 Stephen J. Turnbull 

> nkarageuz...@gmail.com writes:
>
>  > I'm looking forward mailman 3 to find efficient archive UI, with posting
>  > from web feature (just like in http://groupserver.org/)
>
> I don't see a reply, so even though I'm not the best person to answer
> this I'll take a hack at it.
>
> There were two or three proposals related to this feature for GSoC
> this year.  The one directly targeting this feature didn't make the
> cut.  There's another, more ambitious, project to create a user
> interface for reading, posting, archive browsing, and user profile
> updates, which is being supervised by a mentor from the Systers.
>
> However, neither of these seems like it will be ready for prime time
> soon.  I don't think the student who proposed the feature to Mailman
> was serious about it, he was just hoping to get a GSoC internship.  I
> doubt he's working on it (anyway, we haven't heard a peep from him
> since).  The Systers student is working on something specifically for
> use of Systers, and I don't know whether we can integrate it into
> Mailman 3 directly.
>
>  > Should i consider pipermail or Postorious for rendering ?
>
> Pipermail is dead.  Postorius is an option for UI, but it's not really
> about viewing or posting messages, it's more for admin (both list and
> user profiles).  The archive manager under development currently is
> HyperKitty, which you can find out more about from
> https://github.com/hyperkitty/hyperkitty.
>
> Steve
>



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Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 vs Groupserver vs Sympa

2013-10-06 Thread nkarageuz...@gmail.com
Hi Kyra,

The mailman3 team choosed to not implement the wev archive part, but to
delegate this purpose to some dedicated archiving tools.

To achieve this, an archiver interface has been introduced to mailman3.

Several projects have started to implement archives, especially the
hyperkitty project (https://fedorahosted.org/hyperkitty/) which allows some
of the features you ask.

Here are the points i've tested :

web post : OK

web file attach : ok

search : ok

search multiple list : ok
hide quoted : yes

profile page : yes

list usage statistics : per list overview

mailman admin : some features available throught REST API provided by
mailman (i've not tested it yet)

On my side, i'm modifying hyperkitty to add an extension API (plugins)
which will ease the integration of new features like advanced rss or third
party tools integration (branch code :
https://github.com/nka11/hyperkitty/tree/plugin-api )

Feel free to visit hyperkitty project and ask its core developpers for more
information about its basic features

Hope this explanation of the new mailman3 architecture whill help you for
making your choice.

Best regards.

Nico Kara

Le 7 oct. 2013 04:41, "Kẏra"  a écrit :

> Hello,
>
> My name is Kẏra and I am the technology director of the Free Culture
> Foundation as well as a campaigns organizer for the Free Software
> Foundation and we're in need up upgrading our mailing lists to a more
> web-friendly system. I'm doing research on newer list severs to see how
> they compare. So far Groupserver seems to provide everything, but if
> Mailman 3 is going to be released soon, we'd like to consider that as well.
>
> I'm making a comparison chart and wanted to ask about Mailman 3 (and
> Postorius) features. Answers to any and all of the following with regards
> to Mailman 3 + Postorius would be super helpful:
>
> Can you post from the web interface?
> Is there file upload support?
> Is there now a search feature? Can it search multiple lists?
> Are there web feeds (atom or rss)? Generated from lists? searches? threads?
> files?
> Are posts and administration integrated into the web interface?
> Can you specify a posting rate restriction?
> Is full css customization for the web interface supported?
> Is css customization for the email interface supported?
> Is there site-side logging? (as opposed to server side)
> Is there a link to the post in the web interface in the footer of messages?
> Now that users are more than just email addresses, can you request to
> contact a list member?
> Can users have multiple email addresses?
> Are there profile pages where you can see a summary of their latest posts?
> Can the web interface hide quoted text?
> Are usage statistics provided?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Also, did Mailman 2 already support LMTP and virtual domains or are those
> new?
>
> Best,
> Kẏra
>
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