[Mailman-Users] GID Problems, big headache

2001-05-23 Thread Zimmer

Ok, i have a problem with my GID setting.

This is the error I get when I try to post to a
list...

- The following addresses had permanent fatal
errors -
"|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post falcov"
(expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

   - Transcript of session follows -
Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2. 
(Reconfigure to take 
2?)
554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post falcov"...
unknown mailer error 2


I've gone through this email threads and attempted
everyone elses ways, went through FAQ's help files,
still nothing.  Ive set the --with-mail-gid=2
(daemon), 12 (mail), 104 (mailman), 51 (postfix), and
65534 (nobody) after recompiling it gave me the same
error for every time...

Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2. 
(Reconfigure to take 
2?)
554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post falcov"...
unknown mailer error 2

I am totally lost as to what to do next if anyone
could help me out it would be greatly appreciated

Thanks :0)

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[Mailman-Users] Problem with moving lists...

2001-05-23 Thread Peter Bates


Hello all...

I've had the following problem with moving an old
list from a version of Mailman (2.x) to a recent
(mailman-2.0beta5) ...

When I go to the admin page for a list I have moved
(I've only moved one!)... I get:

(Bug in Mailman version 2.0beta5

We're sorry, we hit a bug!)

Traceback:

Traceback (innermost last):
   File "/usr/share/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main
 main()
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 136, in main
 mlist.Save()
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 851, in Save
 self.CheckHTMLArchiveDir()
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 264, 
in CheckHTMLArchiveDir
 makelink(privdir, pubdir)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 42, in makelink
 os.symlink(old, new)
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied

This is obviously just a problem with creating a file or
symlink involving permissions, but not understanding mailman,
or Python to any degree, I don't understand what is happening here.

The actual piper-mail archives are fine, i.e. I can access
/pipermail/listname/, and also get /listinfo/listname
(listname is web-design in this case), but it only seems to
be the admin interface that is broken after my attempt at moving
the config of the 'old' mailman lists to the new box...

Can anyone suggest where my problem lies?

Thanks!


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Re: [Mailman-Users] quetion

2001-05-23 Thread Norbert Bollow

> hello,
> i just wondering how much the price is,if i publish news letter .

If you have a server on the internet anyway and you're capable
of installing Mailman yourself, it costs you only a little time.

If you have a server and want me to install qmail and Mailman
for you, I can do that for you (the exact price depends on how
many other things are currently using email that need to be
changed for the migration from sendmail to qmail).

Alternatively, I could host your mailing list for you (you'd get
a dedicated Mailman installation on a virtual domain of your own)
for USD30 set-up plus USD15/month for up to 1GB/month of data
transfer.  (It'll be hard to beat that limit with a newsletter.)
This offer is valid only for lists that are not questionable in
any way from an ethical perspective, in particular I have zero
tolerance for spamming.

Greetings, Norbert.

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[Mailman-Users] adding attachment and footer dissapearing

2001-05-23 Thread David Jacobson

Hi all

Got a quick question, I add an attachment to my e-mail I send to the list and
then the footer dissapears! Is this a bug in mailman? How can I fix this?

Regards
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Permission Denied

2001-05-23 Thread Barry A. Warsaw


> "RJS" == Robert J Shepherd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

RJS> Sorry ... I should add that the error isn't just for the
RJS> senddigests cron.  Here's two others, which suggest the error
RJS> happens with every (or nearly every) use of config.db:-

Are the errors only happening with the cron jobs?  If so, then perhaps
you're not executing them under the mailman user and mailman group.
Perhaps you installed them in some other user's crontab, and that user
isn't in the mailman group.  Mailman's permissions are based on group
ownership, so you want to be sure that the files are rw for group
mailman and that any process that touches files lives in group
mailman.

And no, I don't think upgrading will fix your problem, although I
still recommend it.  Mailman 2.0.4 stops some annoying warnings when
run under Python 2.1.  The Mailman 2.0.5 fix is a little more
important if you're running Python 2.0 since that will fix stale lock
turds that can occur when a user hits the stop button on their
browser.

-Barry

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[Mailman-Users] Newbie : Apache config

2001-05-23 Thread drico

Hi,
I'm trying to make mailman work with apache on my debian system, but as
the cgi-bin files
have no extension, i cannot set up an handler to care for it. How did
you setup that?
May someone show me some config files? (with exim would be luxury :) ).
Tks
Cedric Perronnet


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[Mailman-Users] From Address in mailman

2001-05-23 Thread David Jacobson

Hi all,

I got a quick question, when mailing to a list it then says in the From header
"From listname-whatever@hostname on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Now I need it to basically just say From the USER that emailed the list and not from 
listname on behalf of user.  eg if I mail the list it must say from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 
nothing else.  Please if somebody could tell me how to do this it'd be greatly 
appreciated, please reply to me off the list.

Regards,
Dave.

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[Mailman-Users] Using alternate password repository?

2001-05-23 Thread Donal Hunt

I'm currently working on a college project to migrate mailman data to
ldap.  Authentication is very easily done - it's 5/6 lines afair.  I
used the python-ldap module to integrate the ldap routines.

Let me know if you want a look at the code...

Donal

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> 
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Using alternate password repository?
> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 22:05:39 -0400
> From: Tom Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I am maintaining several mailing lists associated with an organization
> that includes password-protected access to certain areas of its
> website. I do not like the idea of having separate passwords for
> mailing list preferences access and website access.
> 
> Ideally both the http server and Mailman would share authentication
> information. This can be accomplished by either writing an Apache
> authentication module that makes use of the Mailman information (but
> which if the user belongs to multiple lists?) or Mailman authenticates
> against another mechanism that is used by the server, such as a MySQL
> table.
> 
> My questions, then, are these:
> 
> 1) Has anyone else handled this?
> 
> 2) If so, how?
> 
> 3) If not, what would the Mailman intelligencia recommend?
> 
> I have not spent a lot of time reading the Mailman code, but it would
> seem that it would be relatively straightforward to write a
> replacement to SecurityManager.py that authenticates against something
> other than the marshalled dictionary.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
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[Mailman-Users] How to activate list?

2001-05-23 Thread David M. Bucknell

Sorry for this basic question: After I ran the new list script and changed 
permissions to mailman.mailman, I see that the list I created is still not 
working. Can someone please tell me what has to be done?

Thanks,

David

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[Mailman-Users] quetion

2001-05-23 Thread nakajima
hello,
i just wondering how much the price is,if i publish news letter .


nakajma


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[Mailman-Users] list server

2001-05-23 Thread Lindsey Taylor

My name is Lindsey Taylor and I am with Cohen-Esrey Real Estate in Kansas
City, Mo.  We are looking at purchasing a listserv for several bulk mail
lists that we currently have.  We have five lists, one with 5,000
recipients.  I was browsing your web page and am interested in the listserv
there.  I have a few questions, if you wouldn't mind answering...Does it
support HTML?  Does it confirm the number of people that have received the
message?  Do we get to schedule how often and when it goes out?  What is the
pricing info. and how often does it have to be renewed? Does it run on IIS
4.0?  What are the hardware requirments? (Like does it need a separate
server) and has it received any awards? (or who has it been tested by).
Also, how many people can one list support? Thanks so much for your help!


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[Mailman-Users] Load balancing over two machines

2001-05-23 Thread matthew . malthouse



After spending a tedious afternoon looking through the mailman archives I've
found this question asked twice but never replied to (at least on the list).
At the moment I have a solitary machine running mailman.  Bar the long wish-list
all is fine.

However in the new infrastructure about to be implemented I have two identical
machines dedicated to list handling.

At the moment the idea is to duplicate everything and keep in sync ewither by
having the appropriate directories as NFS mounts from a 3rd machine or with
rdist.  One machine will be in service the other resting idle as what will
essentially be a "hot" spare.  In case the first fails reconfigure the IP
address of the second, initiate mailman and whach it take over.

All well and fine.

But it rather offends me to have a perfectly good machine sitting idle doing
nothing but awaiting the day.



So is there an effective way of load balancing across two machines?





Matthew



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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to remove/stop posts already sent to the list?

2001-05-23 Thread Barry A. Warsaw


> "HG" == Horvath Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

HG> [hwg] okay, it's old, but how does it work in newer versions?
HG> I need a clue how I can remove messages that the list began to
HG> send.  Or in another way, what would you (as a mailman admin)
HG> do, if your messanger got crazy, and posted ten copies of your
HG> message to a list?

Mailman 2.0 is much saner here, because all the messages sit in the
qfiles directory waiting to be processed by qrunner.  In MM2.0 you'd
simply find the offending .db/.msg files in qfiles and delete them.

MM2.1 will be even easier because all messages destined for the MTA
will be sitting in the qfiles/out directory, sequestered from other
queues (such as the incoming queue, the archiver queue, etc.).

IIRC Mailman 1.1 set some of the messages directly to the MTA without
queuing them.  But I really honestly don't remember (it was such a
mess, I was better off evicting those memories from my cache :).

-Barry

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[Mailman-Users] web and mail services on two different machines.

2001-05-23 Thread Jack Mendez

hi there.
i am trying to get mailman up and running.
what i have are two different machines, one which hosts mail services, and the other 
web services.
both are on the same network, sode by side.
i ned to get the list management services available via the web, to work with the 
webserver, and the mailserver process the incoming and outgoing mail.
could someone please help?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman as bulk mailer.. variables in body?

2001-05-23 Thread Barry A. Warsaw


> "NM" == Nigel Metheringham
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

NM> I would personally do this using a small (I would guess 30-50
NM> lines max) perl script (sorry Barry - old habits die hard and
NM> I have all the stuff to do this sitting in my perl toolbox).

No problem!  I think its fine when people like to bone up on their
touch typing skills.  I'd probably do it in a 3-7 line Python
program... :) :)

-Barry

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Re: [Mailman-Users] searching the archives

2001-05-23 Thread Barry A. Warsaw


> "BAW" == Barry A Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

BAW> When it's re-enabled, http://www.python.org/search will be
BAW> the URL you want.

Not quite.

Searching of the archives is only available through the advanced
search page at http://search.python.org/

You probably want to enable searching the "Mailing List Archives" and
turn off all other collections.

-Barry

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[Mailman-Users] explicit adress reply, sender adress

2001-05-23 Thread Kaspar Klingholz

hello,

after installing mailman (2.0, suse 7.1) the first time i encounter some
problems.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] lives on a machine that is known under the
obove adress (public ip) to the world and under kaa.localnet with a
'privat-ip' to our local network.

DEFAULT_HOST_NAME is set to kaa.klingholz.de
explicit reply-to is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and selected

but:  when mails are sent the header-fields 
To: 
Sender: 
Errors-To: 
Reply-To:
contain adresses with '@kaa.localnet', the local name while all other
adresses show the wanted '@kaa.klingholz.de'

obviously a reply to the list from the 'outer space' is not possible.

what to do?

regards
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[Mailman-Users] Permission Denied

2001-05-23 Thread Robert J Shepherd

Sorry ... I should add that the error isn't just for the senddigests cron.
Here's two others, which suggest the error happens with every (or nearly
every) use of config.db:-

---
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 146, in ?
main()
  File "/home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 102, in main
mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 79, in __init__
self.Load()
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 891, in Load
dict, e = self.__load(dbfile)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 868, in __load
fp = open(dbfile)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/home/mailman/lists/bnmlist/config.db'
---

and

---
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 92, in ?
main()
  File "/home/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 41, in main
mlist = MailList.MailList(name)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 77, in __init__
self.Lock()
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1342, in Lock
self.Load()
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 891, in Load
dict, e = self.__load(dbfile)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 868, in __load
fp = open(dbfile)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/home/mailman/lists/bnmlist/config.db'
---

--- original message ---
Hi all

I've searched through months of archives and I can't find the answer to this
so I appeal to you for help. We're running a dozen Mailman lists on one
server (Red Hat/Apache/Sendmail) and they're all fine except one, let's call
it 'thelist', for which 3 or 4 times a day we get the following error
message:-

---
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/home/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 65, in ?
main()
  File "/home/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 40, in main
mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 79, in __init__
self.Load()
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 891, in Load
dict, e = self.__load(dbfile)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 868, in __load
fp = open(dbfile)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/home/mailman/lists/thelist/config.db'
---

This suggests a perms problem but we've checked them over and over. They
pass checkperms and they're exactly the same as all the other lists.

We considered it might be the fault for which Mailman 2.0.4 was issued,
except that we're running Python 2.0, not 2.1, and as I understand it, the
fix is only for Python 2.1 so I'm rather wary about upgrading Mailman.

Can anyone help please?

TIA

Robert


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RE: [Mailman-Users] subscribe not working (newby)

2001-05-23 Thread Robert J Shepherd

Hi all

I've searched through months of archives and I can't find the answer to this
so I appeal to you for help. We're running a dozen Mailman lists on one
server (Red Hat/Apache/Sendmail) and they're all fine except one, let's call
it 'thelist', for which 3 or 4 times a day we get the following error
message:-

---
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/home/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 65, in ?
main()
  File "/home/mailman/cron/senddigests", line 40, in main
mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 79, in __init__
self.Load()
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 891, in Load
dict, e = self.__load(dbfile)
  File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 868, in __load
fp = open(dbfile)
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
'/home/mailman/lists/thelist/config.db'
---

This suggests a perms problem but we've checked them over and over. They
pass checkperms and they're exactly the same as all the other lists.

We considered it might be the fault for which Mailman 2.0.4 was issued,
except that we're running Python 2.0, not 2.1, and as I understand it, the
fix is only for Python 2.1 so I'm rather wary about upgrading Mailman.

Can anyone help please?

TIA

Robert


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[Mailman-Users] subscribe not working (newby)

2001-05-23 Thread Istvan Pasztor


Hi Members!
I have installed first time mailman.
It seems to be working, but the subscribe isn't really working.
When I'm accessing www.mssserver.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/test
and I made the subscribeing steps, seems to be all Ok.
But when I'm accessing the  www.mssserver.com/mailman/admin.cgi/test
page and viewing the subscribed members, The subscribed e-mail address
isn't appear in the list.
 The Big Question:
WHY :)?

Thanks :)
Istvan


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RE: [Mailman-Users] How to remove/stop posts already sent to the list?

2001-05-23 Thread Horvath Gabor (hwg)


HG> I accidentally posted to my list (Mailman 1.1) 10 copies of a
HG> message.

Anybody else remember how Mailman 1.1 worked? ;}

[hwg]  okay, it's old, but how does it work in newer versions? 
I need a clue how I can remove messages that the list began to send. 
Or in another way, what would you (as a mailman admin) do, if your messanger got 
crazy, and posted ten copies of your message to a list? 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman as bulk mailer.. variables in body?

2001-05-23 Thread Nigel Metheringham


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> Mailman is really not the tool for this.

Definitely

> What you could do however is use Mailman to generate the MTA spool
> entries and then use Exim as the MTA with a filter installed that does
> the mailmerge at the point and time of delivery.  This is actually not
> that difficult to do (tho fiddly to debug/test).  The Exim/VERP guys
> are doing something very like this IIRC. 

You don't need to hack the body when doing VERP, so the typical VERP 
config would not be suitable for this.   You *could* do it with exim, 
but its probably a case of additional pain for not much gain.

I would personally do this using a small (I would guess 30-50 lines 
max) perl script (sorry Barry - old habits die hard and I have all the 
stuff to do this sitting in my perl toolbox).  You have one input file 
with the list of addresses and any other replaceable variables, the 
other input file would have the message template.  The script would 
read the control file a chunk at a time and apply it to the template 
and send the output to the MTA.  The HTML::Template (will do other text 
based stuff), and the Mail tools packages will do all the work (or make 
the template include the SMTP commands to and just shove all the output 
to "sendmail -bS" (BSMTP handling).

Nigel.

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