[Mailman-Users] Footers and Archives
Hi all, Does anyone know why I can't add a footer to the e mails I send to the list in non digest mode but it works fine if I change all theusers to digest mode. I am running a moderated list and I also cannot view the archives unless I make them public. Regards Pat
Re: [Mailman-Users] linking problem
I double checked this with single quotes, but that does not make a difference. Somewhere something is causing these URL's to be generated with the wrong path. Mike T. Gholson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010530 18:37]: - Using RH 7.1... I copied the other ScriptAlias entries - by using single quotes around the '/usr/lib/mailma' - - - -Original Message- - From: Leah Cunningham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] - Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:09 PM - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Subject: [Mailman-Users] linking problem - - - Hello, - - There is probably a very simple explanation for this, but I am new - to using mailman and am unsure what the cause is. I have mailman - set up with sendmail and the apache webserver. I configured the - httpd.conf with the line: - - ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ - - If I go to http://localhost/mailman/listinfo, for example, things - look fine . . . however all of my links include an extra lisinfo. - For example a list called linux-announce is linked as - http://localhost/mailman/listinfo/listinfo/linux-announce; when it - should be http://localhost/mailman/listinfo/linux-announce;. - - Or, if I go to http://localhost/mailman/admin, the link for - linux-announce changes to - http://localhost/mailman/listinfo/admin/linux-announce; instead of - http://localhost/mailman/admin/linux-announce;. It is like - somewhere localhost/mailman/listinfo is inserting itself where - just localhost/mailman/ should be. Would someone be able to tell - me where I screwed this up? - - Thanks for your patience, - Leah - - I can't believe it's not UNIX!!! - - Leah Cunningham | PPC QA, Business Support - www.heinous.org | QA Linux geek, et al. - - -- - Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users I can't believe it's not UNIX!!! Leah Cunningham | PPC QA, Business Support www.heinous.org | QA Linux geek, et al. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Footer
I am attempting to add a Footer to mail sent to regular list members and although it appears on the list web page it is not visible on the end users E Mail can you tell me why. Sincerely Patrick Griffin.
Re: [Mailman-Users] Vhosts with Mailman 2.05
On 11:02 PM 5/19/01, Darron Froese wrote: On 5/17/01 2:20 AM, N6REJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. Pardon me for really sounding lame, but I'm having a heck of a time finding any documentation that explains how to modify mailman so that it will answer for vhosts also. Everything you need has been posted to the list multiple times. Apparently you assume the person is subscribed to the list, which isn't necessarily true (and if you have been subscribed for any length of time you would obviously know this because the open nature of this list has been a hot topic of discussion in the not-too-distant-past). Then you assume the person has been subscribed for long enough to have seen the question pass by, which is pretty likely to be false (or else, why ask the question at all?). Finally, if you think saying go search the list archives before posting is a good rebuttal to my 2 items above, why don't you try doing it yourself and then see if it's an answer? (Note, the search function has been fixed somewhat since I wrote this, but is still flawed in that you need specific instructions on how to search to get good results.) (And then think about how a *non-subscriber* is supposed to even know of the existence or location of the archives in the first place...) This list has a lot of traffic problems created by how people find and post to the list. The first problem is that it's regularly used in place of a FAQ because no one has made a FAQ readily available (in the way the list posting address is readily available). Solution? Link to the FAQ pages before giving out the list email address on the mailman website (give out the email address only at the bottom of a FAQ TOC page) and link to the FAQ in the readme, instead of giving out this address. jc waves her hand and offers to help compile an official FAQ if using the unofficial FAQs that already exist isn't acceptable The second problem is that the list archives are not easily or readily searchable (recently fixed, somewhat), so if the question isn't a frequently asked one, but the answer *is* somewhere in the archives, it isn't easily found, so we get the question here again. Solution? Better archive search feature. Again, link to the search the archives page first, before giving out the post to the list address. The third problem is that the software itself doesn't clearly encourage people to read the FAQs and webpages that already exist before posting to this list. For instance, the excellent website at: http://www.aurora.edu/~ckolar/mailman/ is found in the readme, but not on the mailman website, while the email address for posting to this list is found on the website, in fact it's on the website's homepage. When you install mailman you may install it in a different location from where you uncompressed it. If so, the readme will remain where you uncompressed it and NOT be included in the install directory, so you will have a harder time *finding* the readme when you are poking around in your installed mailman files looking for answers. Solution? The readme needs to be put with the install files when the program is installed, and needs to point to web-accessible solutions before giving people an email address to ask that which has already been asked, (and answered, and is readily available if we would just LINK TO IT and point people to it!). Finally, since I happen to have a local archive of posts to this list since I subscribed, I quickly searched my archive and forwarded 2 posts to the OP (including one that was written by Darron and posted to this list a few days ago) that will hopefully help get him pointed in the correct direction. See how helpful and easy that was? jc -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] linking problem
You may also want to check your Defaults.py and mm_cfg.my files. I had an odd problem with extra // in my links that was caused by an extra / in my mm_cfg.py file. -arif On 30 May 2001 18:36:34 -0700, Mike T. Gholson wrote: Using RH 7.1... I copied the other ScriptAlias entries by using single quotes around the '/usr/lib/mailma' -Original Message- From: Leah Cunningham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 3:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] linking problem Hello, There is probably a very simple explanation for this, but I am new to using mailman and am unsure what the cause is. I have mailman set up with sendmail and the apache webserver. I configured the httpd.conf with the line: ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/ If I go to http://localhost/mailman/listinfo, for example, things look fine . . . however all of my links include an extra lisinfo. For example a list called linux-announce is linked as http://localhost/mailman/listinfo/listinfo/linux-announce; when it should be http://localhost/mailman/listinfo/linux-announce;. Or, if I go to http://localhost/mailman/admin, the link for linux-announce changes to http://localhost/mailman/listinfo/admin/linux-announce; instead of http://localhost/mailman/admin/linux-announce;. It is like somewhere localhost/mailman/listinfo is inserting itself where just localhost/mailman/ should be. Would someone be able to tell me where I screwed this up? Thanks for your patience, Leah I can't believe it's not UNIX!!! Leah Cunningham | PPC QA, Business Support www.heinous.org | QA Linux geek, et al. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Arif Mamdani, Circuit Rider LINC Project -- Welfare Law Center www.lincproject.org www.welfarelaw.org p: 212.633.6967 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it possible
@ Yanek Korff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : This cannot be done on a global scale? Yes, just modify the template file located in /home/mailman/templates/listinfo.html Then edit the contents of the web pages, remove that option. from the admin/listname page, the link for doing this is in the second column, marked * Edit the HTML for the public list pages -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] No confirm localisation
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] EG Is it possible to add members by sending an email containing EG subscribe password address=email without needing a EG confirm message from the recipient? I know I can do this EG through the add_member command but I would like to do this EG through the mail-interface. I believe that if you use the list-owners' password you don't need confirmation. I'd have to double check that though (note to Marc: you may want to double check this too! ;). I checked it... however you still need to confirm a subscription. Is there an other way to bypass it? The current CVS tree -- what will become Mailman 2.1 -- has all the i18n stuff integrated. There are still a few glitches in the current snapshot, but I'll try to clear those up today. Mailman 2.1 isn't ready for prime time yet though, but if you're interested in translating the catalog and templates for Dutch, that would be great (I'm sure Guido would agree. :). Always good... so as I understand, there isn't a dutch catalog available at this moment? Well, sign me up for it then! -- netivity bv www.netivity.nl [EMAIL PROTECTED] 038 - 850 1000 van nagellstraat 4 8011 eb zwolle -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] GID Problems, big headache
-Original Message- From: Zimmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Ok, i have a problem with my GID setting. I had the same probs with my installation (mailman-2.05 + postfix + FreeBSD). However I did so many things to solve this problem that I'm not sure now what really fixed it. Have you made a separate aliases file for mailman like suggested in the installation FAQ? -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] first message
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[Mailman-Users] Bad Karma, or stupid fingers
Folks, I just upgraded to Redhat 7.1. I also upgraded mailman from the .05 Beta to the 2.0.1-2 RPM. I made the change to httpd.conf for Scriptalias. I edited mm_cfg.py acordingly. Since this is an RPM all the userid's (mailman etc) is added. I ran /bin/check_perms -f and got: Traceback (innermost last): File ./check_perms, line 50, in ? MAILMAN_GRPNAME = grp.getgrgid(MAILMAN_GID)[0] TypeError: illegal argument type for built-in operation. So, the directory and file permissions are NOT correct re:set for mailman. I ran check_perms as root. Why does it puke? Help. Regards Mike -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bad Karma, or stupid fingers
MAILMAN_GRPNAME = grp.getgrgid(MAILMAN_GID)[0] TypeError: illegal argument type for built-in operation. Gee, doesn't this just scream to you that you should check the value of MAILMAN_GID? It sure does to me, using nothing more than English punctuation skills... -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailman on RH7.1 still having problems
-Original Message- Another problem, no messages to lists get send, my qfiles dir is growing with nonsend messages. The notification emails when creating a new list get send also when adding a member. Make sure you didn't lose your aliases entries for your mailing lists. check /etc/aliases* Chuck Moss I see that mailman uses sendmails aliases file. In theory, should a new list be added to the aliases file every time a new list is created? My mailman configuration is not adding the appropriate list name to the aliases file. Could this be a permission problem? -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailman on RH7.1 still having problems
[recipient list trimmed to get rid of everything but poster and the mailman-users list] Previously, Mike T. Gholson said: I see that mailman uses sendmails aliases file. In theory, should a new list be added to the aliases file every time a new list is created? If you are using Sendmail, yes. My mailman configuration is not adding the appropriate list name to the aliases file. Could this be a permission problem? Mailman doesn't add anything to the alias file - that is up to the administrator of the system to do. The 'newlist' script will spit out a ready-made bit of text you can cut-and-paste into your alias file, but you still have to actually do that. -dan -- Age is a very high price to pay for maturity. -George Carlin -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to send reject reason to list-owner?
On Fri, 25 May 2001 11:37:31 +0200 Stephan Uhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, when I reject a mail to a moderated list, is there a possibility to send a copy of the reject notifictaion also to list-owner? The Additionally forward this message to feature only sends the original mail, but not the reject reason. It also seems that Mailman no longer attaches the rejected message to the bottom of the rejection. Ughh. Bad stuff. My users are bitching about this (I have a moderately high rejection rate) as its now a lot more difficult for them to go back and recreate the original message so they can fix and resubmit it. -- J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] -(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer
On Sat, 26 May 2001 07:59:52 +1000 Patrick Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am attempting to add a Footer to mail sent to regular list members and although it appears on the list web page it is not visible on the end users E Mail can you tell me why. FAQ: Because they are MIME messages and footers currently don't work with MIME messages. -- J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] -(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailman on RH7.1 still having problems
On Thu, 31 May 2001 16:26:48 -0700 Mike T Gholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that mailman uses sendmails aliases file. In theory, should a new list be added to the aliases file every time a new list is created? Depending on your MTA and its configuration, yes, this is true. Some MTAs, such as Exim and Postfix, can be configured to not need a list alias file at all. My mailman configuration is not adding the appropriate list name to the aliases file. Could this be a permission problem? No. You need to manually add the aliases as provided by newlist. -- J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] -(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailman on RH7.1 still having problems
Where does the newlist command put the appropriate script that I need to add to my aliases file? [m] -Original Message- From: Dan Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:13 PM To: Mike T. Gholson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailman on RH7.1 still having problems [recipient list trimmed to get rid of everything but poster and the mailman-users list] Previously, Mike T. Gholson said: I see that mailman uses sendmails aliases file. In theory, should a new list be added to the aliases file every time a new list is created? If you are using Sendmail, yes. My mailman configuration is not adding the appropriate list name to the aliases file. Could this be a permission problem? Mailman doesn't add anything to the alias file - that is up to the administrator of the system to do. The 'newlist' script will spit out a ready-made bit of text you can cut-and-paste into your alias file, but you still have to actually do that. -dan -- Age is a very high price to pay for maturity. -George Carlin -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] A good MTA program?
It doesn't look like sendmail is the greatest MTA for use with Mailman. What is a good MTA that seems to work well with Mailman? [m] -Original Message- From: J C Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:11 PM To: Mike T. Gholson Cc: Chuck Moss; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailman on RH7.1 still having problems On Thu, 31 May 2001 16:26:48 -0700 Mike T Gholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that mailman uses sendmails aliases file. In theory, should a new list be added to the aliases file every time a new list is created? Depending on your MTA and its configuration, yes, this is true. Some MTAs, such as Exim and Postfix, can be configured to not need a list alias file at all. My mailman configuration is not adding the appropriate list name to the aliases file. Could this be a permission problem? No. You need to manually add the aliases as provided by newlist. -- J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] -(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Mass subscribing users with the same password
I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but in the absence of searchable archives (? how do you search them???), I'll have to ask it again... how can I subscribe lots of people, giving them the same password? I thought of doing it via the email interface, like this: subscribe password [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe password [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe password [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe password [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe password [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. but that seems a bit inelegant. The add_members command doesn't accept a password parameter. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Cheers, -- Juha -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailman on RH7.1 still having problems
No, you need to specify the file yourself. I do this after I've su'd to the mailman user, like this: bin/newlist -o mailman-aliases (Looks like you can add the password plus the email of the listmanager as well to the command line.) Then, I run postalias mailman-aliases (as I use Postfix); you might need to do newaliases mailman-aliases if you run Sendmail. -- Juha :: -Original Message- :: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike T. Gholson :: Sent: Friday, 1 June 2001 16:20 :: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: mailman on RH7.1 still :: having problems :: :: :: Where does the newlist command put the appropriate script :: that I need to add to my aliases file? :: :: [m] :: :: -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
RE: [Mailman-Users] A good MTA program?
I've had good results with both Postfix and Exim. -- Juha :: -Original Message- :: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike T. Gholson :: Sent: Friday, 1 June 2001 16:22 :: To: J C Lawrence :: Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Subject: [Mailman-Users] A good MTA program? :: :: :: It doesn't look like sendmail is the greatest MTA for :: use with Mailman. What is a good MTA that seems to work :: well with Mailman? :: :: [m] :: -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] A good MTA program?
On Thursday, May 31, 2001, at 09:22 PM, Mike T. Gholson wrote: It doesn't look like sendmail is the greatest MTA for use with Mailman. What is a good MTA that seems to work well with Mailman? Sendmail works fine. But if you're not committed to sendmail, look at postfix -- Chuq Von Rospach, Internet Gnome http://www.chuqui.com [[EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Yes, yes, I've finally finished my home page. Lucky you. When an agnostic dies, does he go to the great perhaps? -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] how to send reject reason to list-owner?
SU == Stephan Uhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SU when I reject a mail to a moderated list, is there a SU possibility to send a copy of the reject notifictaion also to SU list-owner? The Additionally forward this message to SU feature only sends the original mail, but not the reject SU reason. SU We're several moderators and I want to inform the others that SU I rejected a message and why. JCL == J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JCL It also seems that Mailman no longer attaches the rejected JCL message to the bottom of the rejection. Ughh. Bad stuff. JCL My users are bitching about this (I have a moderately high JCL rejection rate) as its now a lot more difficult for them to JCL go back and recreate the original message so they can fix and JCL resubmit it. Both good suggestions. I'll make sure to add these to 2.1. -Barry -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Re: A good MTA program?
On Thu, 31 May 2001 21:22:16 -0700 Mike T Gholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't look like sendmail is the greatest MTA for use with Mailman. I'd argue that sendmail is a pretty poor choice of MTA in general, but that's a seperate and somewhat religious topic. That said, Sendmail does not pose any particular problems WRT Mailman, and Mailman successfully runs in large numbers of sendmail-using sites. What is a good MTA that seems to work well with Mailman? I would generically recommend either Exim (http://www.exim.org/) or Postfix (http://www.postfix.org/). From what I know of your position I'd priobably recommend Exim in particular. Nigel has written an excellant Mailman/Exim HOW-TO (ships with mailman and can be found on the Exim site) and Exim itself has perhaps the most human readable and human friendly set of configs of any MTA. ObDisclosure: I currently use Postfix on all my list servers. I used to use Exim. I still run Exim on other systems (such as the one I'm typing on now). I've used both for many months (years in Exim's case). I made the change for non-technical reasons. I like both. -- J C Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] -(*) http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ The pressure to survive and rhetoric may make strange bedfellows -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
