[Mailman-Users] Install Problem

2001-07-05 Thread Ian Scott

I've just finished installing Mailman, and I am sure I followed instructions
to a 'T'.  I've reached the point where I created the first list, 'test' and
all seemed fine.  I received my email, and this is where things seem to go
strange for me.

The email asks me to go to http://lists.pairowoodies.com/admin/test or to
http://lists.pairowoodies.com/listinfo/test.

The problem is, neither of the admin or listinfo directories exist.  Perhaps
this is an Apache problem - I'm not really all that familiar with Apache,
but as a test, I did set up an index.html file in /home/mailman, and loaded
the file fine, so I know at least that part is correct.  Admittedly though,
I am not completely sure I did the Apache conf file properly:


ServerName lists.pairowoodies.com
Alias /pipermail/ /home/mailman/archives/public
ScriptAlias /mailman /home/mailman/cgi-bin


Is this correct?

The other thing I find odd is that there are no files in the cgi-bin
directory.  Shouldn't the install have put something in there?

I am running Linux Redhat 6.2, Sendmail, Python 2.0



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[Mailman-Users] checkdbs

2001-07-05 Thread J.D. Bronson

Before anyone flames me on this, there was nothing in the searchable 
archives for this...and I am using the version 2.0.5 ..

Never got an error until I added a few more groups. Everything seems to 
work fine except the execution of this command.


# /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/mailman/cron/checkdbs

(it will hang until a CNTL-C is used)
then...

^CTraceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 92, in ?
 main()
   File "/usr/mailman/cron/checkdbs", line 41, in main
 mlist = MailList.MailList(name)
   File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 77, in __init__
 self.Lock()
   File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1338, in Lock
 self.__lock.lock(timeout)
   File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 286, in lock
 self.__sleep()
   File "/usr/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 424, in __sleep
 time.sleep(interval)
KeyboardInterrupt


..the version in the CVS tree made things worse. Any hints or pointers will 
be appreciated.





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Re: [Mailman-Users] exim/mailman problems

2001-07-05 Thread Jeffrey A Schoolcraft

I did a search through the exim archives and it was suggested that this
be done:

If you still have trouble, try:

exim -d 9 -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and look in the debugging output for where it is running the
"list_director" director (should be at the end, just before it decides
to send an error message)

In particular, look for sth like:

calling list_director director
require_files = /var/lib/mailman/lists/eng/config.db
test existence of /var/lib/mailman/lists/eng/config.db
  required present, EACCES => unknown
Success


I used my listname of course, and I found the section talked about and
it was a success.

* Jeffrey A Schoolcraft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'm running Debian unstable, exim, mailman 2.0.5, and kernel 2.4.5.
> 
> I followed the mailman install docs to the T, except, I used the exim
> howto use mailman lists before setting up a new list.  
> 
> I am having problems sending mail to lists, lists-request, etc.  I'm
> getting returned 2 from transport every time.
> 
> Has anyone seen this and know how to fix it?  I'd be very appreciative.
> 
> Jeffrey Schoolcraft
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[Mailman-Users] exim/mailman problems

2001-07-05 Thread Jeffrey A Schoolcraft

I'm running Debian unstable, exim, mailman 2.0.5, and kernel 2.4.5.

I followed the mailman install docs to the T, except, I used the exim
howto use mailman lists before setting up a new list.  

I am having problems sending mail to lists, lists-request, etc.  I'm
getting returned 2 from transport every time.

Has anyone seen this and know how to fix it?  I'd be very appreciative.

Jeffrey Schoolcraft

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Re: [Mailman-Users] OpenBSD Trusted Path Execution (TPE) compatibility?

2001-07-05 Thread Joshua Jore

Oh right, I had forgotten completely that mail/wrapper does that. Darn, so
I guess mailman has to be a trusted user. Thanks.

Josh

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, J C Lawrence wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 10:37:00 -0500 (CDT)
> Joshua Jore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Prevents interpreters from reading from STDIN
>
> Of necessity Mailman's processes read inbound mail from stdin.
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] best MTA to use with mailman?

2001-07-05 Thread J C Lawrence

On Thu, 05 Jul 2001 17:13:30 +0100 (BST) 
lee bolding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> by "best" I mean fastest, issues of setting up etc are not a
> problem.

MTA performance is mostly an issue of configuration, both of the
MTA, system, and MLM.  It is something of a black art.  Minimally it
is incredibly subjective to your system and its loads.  This
encludes things like choice of filesystem for the spool, tailoring
of file system (atime, inode density, block size, etc), number of
spindles and RAID type for spool, use of solid state disks, envelope
size, fall back rates for slow MXes, automatic relegation of known
slow MXes to second/other system, number of parallel deliveries,
%age of slow MXes in load, traffic and distribution of traffic over
time, burstiness of traffic, size of outbound pipe, presence of
local cacheing name server, setting of minimum TTLs on name server,
etc.

That said the normal answers are one of Postfix, Exim, or QMail.
I like, use and recommend Postfix and Exim.  

> I've used postfix before, its quick and has the ability to use an
> LDAP directory for its aliases DB - which makes creating lists so
> much easier, especially via web.

mailman does not have support for deriving its membership lists from
a back end service.  Currently all member lists are private to
Mailman.

> Does anybody have any other MTAs to suggest? and what are the
> reasons that these MTAs are "good"?

I won't comment on QMail as I've not run it (I have disagreements
with DJB, and aspects of QMail's design).

Exim is wonderously (staggeringly?) configurable and extensible, but
that is based on the fact that it is also monolithic which allows
its various bits to have carnal knowledge of operations.  Its also
damned fast.

Postfix follows the distributed distrust model so popularised in
recent years.  In my tests the early attack rate of the performance
graphs for Postfix is considerably steeper than for Postfix.  I've
also found that once the queue size starts building that Exim's and
Postfix's performance curves are very similar (see previous
traffic/discussion on this list).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] OpenBSD Trusted Path Execution (TPE) compatibility?

2001-07-05 Thread J C Lawrence

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 10:37:00 -0500 (CDT) 
Joshua Jore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Prevents interpreters from reading from STDIN 

Of necessity Mailman's processes read inbound mail from stdin.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail server

2001-07-05 Thread J C Lawrence

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 11:42:59 -0500 (CDT) 
Keith Howanitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So you don't mind sending your password clear text over your
> networks??? 

In the presence of VPNs (eg IPSec) or a fully switched network with
controlled/trusted roots and switches/routers this is not always an
issue.

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[Mailman-Users] Installing mailman on a server running plesk hosting package.

2001-07-05 Thread Wayne Ringling


 I have a RH7.1 server running plesk virtual hosting software, it uses qmail
to do the email part of the server.  Does anybody here run or know of a how
to for running a mailman install on a server running plesk server
administrator.  

 I know it's the simple way to do vhosting but I can't keep up with it any
other way.

Wayne Ringling 
 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail server

2001-07-05 Thread Chad M. Stewart

At 12:01 PM 07/05/2001, Amanda wrote:
>Karl,
>
>Most of the information you need is included in the documentation. :-)
>
> >From experience, I can tell you that Drake 8 doesn't (easily) install with a
>lot of the stuff that, IMO, should've been included. Also some of the stuff
>that comes with the distribution is a little out-of-date, has security issues,
>etc. Save yourself a little work and ditch the Apache 1.3.19 that comes with
>the distribution - get 1.3.20 and set it up as standalone; get yourself an MTA
>other than the evil version of sendmail that comes with Mandrake (I'm using
>qmail, but other folks use other MTA's quite happily), and to avoid having one
>hand tied behind your back when troubleshooting, you might want to set up
>xinetd for telnet (and install telnet, if you don't have it).

Suggestion - do not use telnet, better to have it disabled or not even 
installed on your machine.  Use SSH instead, provides the same 
functionality but over an encrypted connection.  Take a look at 
http://www.openssh.org/.

As for MTA, the default sendmail that comes on RHL (as of 6.2) is good for 
basic stuff.  Out of the box it configured not to be an open relay.  Years 
ago the default configuration was that of an open relay and closing it down 
was very difficult, much easier now.

Have fun and enjoy


Regards,
Chad



>Beyond that, all I can say is read the instructions for everything three times
>before you do anything. Linux documentation has rightfully earned its
>reputation as being confusing at best; outdated and incorrect as its norm; and
>at worst, far worse than useless as it leads you down a primrose path...
>
>=)
>Amanda
>
>
>Karl Carlile wrote:
>
> > I have downloaded mailman and hope to turn my p3 pc into a mailserver. What
> > else will i need to accomplish this task in the form of software. I have
> > linux mandrake 8 and have successfully installed it.
> >
> > The mailing list will be a low volumed list so this should make the demands
> > even less.
> >
> > Karl
> >
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[Mailman-Users] how to use CSS style sheets for listinfo and archives

2001-07-05 Thread mi.mailman

I would like to customize the look of the mailman and pipermail pages.

The easiest way would seem to be to use style sheets. Is there a way to 
specify a style sheet link to be added to the headers of pages?

It may be have been discussed many times, but web searches don't work on 
"style sheets" + mailman or pipermail. :-(

Thanks,


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[Mailman-Users] Help Needed

2001-07-05 Thread designs_creatorsdesign_com



If I manually subscribe someone to my mailing 
list, they do not have an opportunity to choose a password.  How, then, can 
they unsubscribe themselves?  Is there a way to configure the list so 
that people can enter their email address WITHOUT NEEDING A PASSWORD AT ALL, and 
have Mailman unsubscribe them automatically?  Thanks...
 
Deana Van Fleet
CreatorsDesign
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[Mailman-Users] attachments

2001-07-05 Thread Donald Grant

Hi,
I'm an administrator on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and we are using mailman to run the list.
We have a problem in so far as we need to
be able to ban attachments being sent with
emails but don't seem to be able to do it.
This is required primarily to prevent the
possible spread of viruses and also to
comply with list members employers LAN mailing
rules. Can you advise as to how we may
resolve this problem.
yours
Donald Grant


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[Mailman-Users] Installing mailman

2001-07-05 Thread Mariela Rocha




Hi, I´m Mariela Rocha of Universidad Tecnológica Nacional (Argentina) and I 
have a problem when I run the command ./configure with the version of the Python 
program. This is the response of the command:
castor:/usr/local/bin/mailman-2.0.5# ./configure 
--with-python=/usr/local/bin/Python-1.5.2loading cache 
./config.cachechecking for --with-python... 
/usr/local/bin/Python-1.5.2checking Python interpreter... 
/usr/local/bin/Python-1.5.2checking Python version... ./configure: 
/usr/local/bin/Python-1.5.2: cannot executecat: cannot open 
conftest.outconfigure: error:
* /usr/local/bin/Python-1.5.2 is too old (or broken)* Python 
1.5.2 or newer is required
castor:/usr/local/bin/mailman-2.0.5#
Whats happened?? whats fails??
Thank you!! 
Ing. 
Mariela C. RochaCentro de ComunicacionesRectorado - UTNTelefax: +54 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Other www/mailman gatewaying options.....wwwthreads?

2001-07-05 Thread Delfim Machadp

to do what ??

plz explain more


On 04 Jul 2001 15:09:44 -0400, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> Has anyone hacked WWWThreads (for example) to accept messages from 
> Mailman?   That would be very useful.
> 

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[Mailman-Users] Please help with this error message

2001-07-05 Thread Ww4477

I am running Mailman from my web site it was working OK until yesterday, I 
cant send any messages to any of my 4 mailing list I get the same error 
message, if anyone can please give me detailed instructions on how to fix the 
problem.

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/wrapper post all_chesed.ws
generated by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Child process of virtual_address_pipe transport returned 2 from command:
/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/wrapper

The following text was generated during the delivery attempt:

-- pipe to |/usr/local/cpanel/3rdparty/mailman/mail/wrapper post 
all_chesed.ws
   generated by [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 99.  (Reconfigure to take 99?)

-- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. --

Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.103])
by nuku.vosn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1)
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for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:06:30 -0600
Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Mailman-Users] Error decoding authorization cookie

2001-07-05 Thread Christian Billette

Hi !

When I go the authentification page of a list, this error appear on top of the 
page, Error decoding authorization cookie.






Thank you !

Christian B.
Network Administrator
Visuaide, inc.

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[Mailman-Users] list not sending to juno.com or hotmail.com users

2001-07-05 Thread postmeister

I recently set up a list by importing in about 280 names from a defunct
listbot list. I noticed that the welcome message bounced to all
addresses at juno.com and hotmail.com. Would this be a problem on my end
(dns, etc) or some kind of anti spam measure on those domains?
I have noticed that messages coming from my test hotmail account dont
get back to my server so perhaps I do have a problem with my
configurations. Errors I am getting are "no route to host" and the like.
Any clues to what to troubleshoot?



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[Mailman-Users] OpenBSD Trusted Path Execution (TPE) compatibility?

2001-07-05 Thread Joshua Jore

Hi folks,
I'm new to mailman so please bear with me. I've got Mailman installed and
working successfully on my OpenBSD+Postfix machine. I'm also installing
the TPE patches which do a few things:

Prevent execution of binaries that are in directories not owned by root
Prevents interpreters from reading from STDIN
Protect most proc info and *stat stuff
Strips LD_PRELOAD and LD_LIBRARY_PATH

I can see an immediate problem where mailman owns it's own directories and
binaries. Does mailman fail any other the other tests? (It's always
possible to designate mailman as a trusted user so it doesn't have these
restrictions but I'd rather not if I don't have to)

Thanks,
Joshua Jore


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail server

2001-07-05 Thread Keith Howanitz

So you don't mind sending your password clear text over your networks???

-- 

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On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Amanda wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Suggestion - do not use telnet, better to have it disabled or not even
> > installed on your machine.  Use SSH instead, provides the same
> > functionality but over an encrypted connection.  Take a look at
> > http://www.openssh.org/.
>
> Good point. I forget too often that the rest of the world doesn't live behind a
> firewall. :-) Even at that, I've got telnet set up to not accept connections from
> any but a set list of IPs. So even one of our own in-house develophackers wouldn't
> be able to get into it without at least a little sweat. (I'm not a fool - there's
> no such thing as foolproof. Security is and will ever be a game of leapfrog.)
>
> Chad's right - ssh is pretty cool when you have a need for it. Maybe someday in my
> spare time I'll set that up on this machine. Nahh... then I might have to fix stuff
> from home. =P
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail server

2001-07-05 Thread Amanda

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Suggestion - do not use telnet, better to have it disabled or not even
> installed on your machine.  Use SSH instead, provides the same
> functionality but over an encrypted connection.  Take a look at
> http://www.openssh.org/.

Good point. I forget too often that the rest of the world doesn't live behind a
firewall. :-) Even at that, I've got telnet set up to not accept connections from
any but a set list of IPs. So even one of our own in-house develophackers wouldn't
be able to get into it without at least a little sweat. (I'm not a fool - there's
no such thing as foolproof. Security is and will ever be a game of leapfrog.)

Chad's right - ssh is pretty cool when you have a need for it. Maybe someday in my
spare time I'll set that up on this machine. Nahh... then I might have to fix stuff
from home. =P

=)
Amanda



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrong email addresses leading to mail-loops

2001-07-05 Thread Michael Dosser

* J C Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010705 17:10]:

> Your MTA is 

... crappy? Hm, sendmail works fine for us (app. 6-8000 emails/day) and it's
fast and reliable (apart from the problem we have in conjunction with mailman).
I'm sure there is something about in between sendmail and mailman which causes
this problem (maybe sendmail misconfiguration, but where? or mailman and
another where?). Anybody *using* sendmail and mailman with virtual hosting and 
having success?

Thanx,mic 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail server

2001-07-05 Thread Chad

At 12:01 PM 07/05/2001, Amanda wrote:
>Karl,
>
>Most of the information you need is included in the documentation. :-)
>
> >From experience, I can tell you that Drake 8 doesn't (easily) install with a
>lot of the stuff that, IMO, should've been included. Also some of the stuff
>that comes with the distribution is a little out-of-date, has security issues,
>etc. Save yourself a little work and ditch the Apache 1.3.19 that comes with
>the distribution - get 1.3.20 and set it up as standalone; get yourself an MTA
>other than the evil version of sendmail that comes with Mandrake (I'm using
>qmail, but other folks use other MTA's quite happily), and to avoid having one
>hand tied behind your back when troubleshooting, you might want to set up
>xinetd for telnet (and install telnet, if you don't have it).

Suggestion - do not use telnet, better to have it disabled or not even 
installed on your machine.  Use SSH instead, provides the same 
functionality but over an encrypted connection.  Take a look at 
http://www.openssh.org/.

As for MTA, the default sendmail that comes on RHL (as of 6.2) is good for 
basic stuff.  Out of the box it configured not to be an open relay.  Years 
ago the default configuration was that of an open relay and closing it down 
was very difficult, much easier now.

Have fun and enjoy


Regards,
Chad



>Beyond that, all I can say is read the instructions for everything three times
>before you do anything. Linux documentation has rightfully earned its
>reputation as being confusing at best; outdated and incorrect as its norm; and
>at worst, far worse than useless as it leads you down a primrose path...
>
>=)
>Amanda
>
>
>Karl Carlile wrote:
>
> > I have downloaded mailman and hope to turn my p3 pc into a mailserver. What
> > else will i need to accomplish this task in the form of software. I have
> > linux mandrake 8 and have successfully installed it.
> >
> > The mailing list will be a low volumed list so this should make the demands
> > even less.
> >
> > Karl
> >
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin utilities available via web?

2001-07-05 Thread Nigel Metheringham

On 05 Jul 2001 08:30:37 -0700, John W Baxter wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, the Exim site resists posting URLs...go to
> http://www.exim.org

funny - oh I guess you haven't worked round the frames - try
  http://www.exim.org/howto/mailman.html

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[Mailman-Users] best MTA to use with mailman?

2001-07-05 Thread lee . bolding

wanted your opinions on the best MTA to use with 
mailman.

by "best" I mean fastest, issues of setting up 
etc are not a problem.

At the moment I'm using sendmail that comes with 
FreeBSD, although sendmail is robust it lacks 
some features, and is actually quite slow.

I've used postfix before, its quick and has the 
ability to use an LDAP directory for its aliases 
DB - which makes creating lists so much easier, 
especially via web.

Does anybody have any other MTAs to suggest? and 
what are the reasons that these MTAs are "good"?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail server

2001-07-05 Thread Amanda

Karl,

Most of the information you need is included in the documentation. :-)

>From experience, I can tell you that Drake 8 doesn't (easily) install with a
lot of the stuff that, IMO, should've been included. Also some of the stuff
that comes with the distribution is a little out-of-date, has security issues,
etc. Save yourself a little work and ditch the Apache 1.3.19 that comes with
the distribution - get 1.3.20 and set it up as standalone; get yourself an MTA
other than the evil version of sendmail that comes with Mandrake (I'm using
qmail, but other folks use other MTA's quite happily), and to avoid having one
hand tied behind your back when troubleshooting, you might want to set up
xinetd for telnet (and install telnet, if you don't have it).

Beyond that, all I can say is read the instructions for everything three times
before you do anything. Linux documentation has rightfully earned its
reputation as being confusing at best; outdated and incorrect as its norm; and
at worst, far worse than useless as it leads you down a primrose path...

=)
Amanda


Karl Carlile wrote:

> I have downloaded mailman and hope to turn my p3 pc into a mailserver. What
> else will i need to accomplish this task in the form of software. I have
> linux mandrake 8 and have successfully installed it.
>
> The mailing list will be a low volumed list so this should make the demands
> even less.
>
> Karl
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin utilities available via web?

2001-07-05 Thread John W Baxter

At 1:50 -0500 7/5/2001, Bill Bradford wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 05:50:14PM -0400, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
>> Can we not log in and _create_ lists through the www interface?   As it
>> stands now, I believe you do a newlist (command line) and then edit the
>> stuff via www (if you choose).
>> Obviously, creating lists via www is a potential security problem, but it
>> can be restricted.
>> Or did I miss something in the docs?
>> _F
>
>You have to be able to edit your MTA's aliases file, and letting this
>be done via a web interface is a HUGE security risk.  Plus, you'd have
>to build in support for all the major MTAs.

It's not uniformly necessary to mess with aliases...one can use Exim and
the HOWTOd (on the Exim site) method of dealing with Mailman.  A few
aliases are added initially, and some directors and so on in the Exim
configuration...then additional lists are handled without additional
changes (IIRC, Exim detects mailing lists based on the presence of the
lists' database files).

We run this way...the "IIRC" is there because it's so smooth I would have
to look at the FAQ or the Exim configuration to remember how it's done.

Unfortunately, the Exim site resists posting URLs...go to
http://www.exim.org
or
http://www.us.exim.org

then click in the left frame on Documentation and FAQs and look in the
resulting right frame for the HOWTO on "Using mailman lists with exim"

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrong email addresses leading to mail-loops

2001-07-05 Thread J C Lawrence

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 15:18:52 +0200 
Michael Dosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Problem description: Whenever a members email address is wrong,
>> e.g. bla@.bla.org or whenever a local email adress has no mailbox
>> qrunner tries to deliver x-times to all members, which it has
>> reached until the wrong email address. It obviously stops when we
>> delete the files in $MAILMANHOME/qfiles. But this cannot be the >
>> solution since nobody is sitting there watching postmaster mails
>> every second ;) Anyway: this is very annoying since lots of
>> members unsubscribed after this has happened ... uhm, and: yes,
>> we have bounce options activated on every list with the options:
>> "5","3","5","disable and notify me". Secound uhm: yes, I searched
>> the archive, but have not found anything similar.
Your MTA is 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin utilities available via web?

2001-07-05 Thread Forrest Aldrich

Oh, good point.  That didn't occur to me, so late at
night :)

You have to be able to edit your
MTA's aliases file, and letting this
be done via a web interface is a HUGE security risk.  Plus, you'd
have
to build in support for all the major MTAs.
(example - with Postfix, its best to keep TWO aliases files, both
referenced
 in the mail config file - one for "normal" aliases, and
one for 
 the Mailman lists..)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman for Windows

2001-07-05 Thread B. van Ouwerkerk


>Then, to my frustration, I read that Mailman is not available for Windows 
>(98 in my case). Really sad. Question: would you know of share/freeware 
>that does more or less the same as Mailman, and that is available for Windows?

You might want to try sourceforge freshmeat or tucows.

Or .. try to find one via a searchengine..

I think Artisoft has/had a low-price package which can be used as a 
listmanager.. if Artisoft still exists..

Or.. have someone install and maintain a linuxbox for you. Or do it by 
yourself if you feel up to it..

Last resort, have a look at yahoogroups.com or any other company who can 
provide you with a mailinglist at little or no cost.

Bye,


B.


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[Mailman-Users] Re: Adding a search function to archives...

2001-07-05 Thread Jean-Sebastien Morisset

By the lack of response to my question, can I assume there's no way to
modify the generated HTML for the search page (for example:
http://lists.mvlan.net/pipermail/rcf-users/)?

Thanks,
js.

On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 01:54:03PM -0400, Jean-Sebastien Morisset wrote:
> I'd like to add a search function to the mailing list archives. My plan is
> to simply edit the HTML template and add a form which points to google
> ("as_q" is the search string, and "as_sitesearch" limits the search to a
> URL like "http://lists.mvlan.net/pipermail/rcf-users/";).
> 
> I've looked in the ./templates sub-directory, but couldn't find the
> appropriate file to edit. Does someone know which file I should edit?
> 
> Thanks,
> js.
> 

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Wrong email addresses leading to mail-loops

2001-07-05 Thread Michael Dosser

Dear list members!

I know that it's not very polite to reply to my own email just to point out that
it has not been answered. Please help, we still have the same problem!

What we did until now: I made a script to test whether a subscribed email is
part of one of our domains and if it is to check whether it exists in
the /etc/mail/virtusertable. This script runs by cron every 2 hours and
unsubscribes the wrong email address.

This cannot be the solution.

Anyone?

Ciao,mic

* Michael Dosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010625 16:29]:

> Problem description:
> Whenever a members email address is wrong, e.g. bla@.bla.org or whenever a 
> local email adress has no mailbox qrunner tries to deliver x-times to all 
> members, which it has reached until the wrong email address. It obviously 
> stops when we delete the files in $MAILMANHOME/qfiles. But this cannot be the > 
>solution since nobody is sitting there watching postmaster mails every 
> second ;) Anyway: this is very annoying since lots of members unsubscribed 
> after this has happened ... uhm, and: yes, we have bounce options activated 
> on every list with the options: "5","3","5","disable and notify me". Secound 
> uhm: yes, I searched the archive, but have not found anything similar.
> 
> Question:
> Is this a bug in mailman 2.03 or did i make some configuration errors?
> 
> If the latter is the case, I added the servers configuration below, hope 
> that's not to much ...
> 
> Settings:
> 
> mm_cfg.py:
> 
> DEFAULT_HOST_NAME = 'mailman.domain.bla'
> DEFAULT_URL   = 'http://mailman.domain.bla/mailman/'
> MAILMAN_OWNER = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> PUBLIC_ARCHIVE_URL = '/pipermail'
> PRIVATE_ARCHIVE_URL = '/mailman/private'
> MAX_SPAWNS= 100
> SMTP_MAX_RCPTS = 100
> DELIVERY_MODULE = 'Sendmail'
> SENDMAIL_CMD = '/usr/sbin/sendmail'
> 
> Sendmail:
> 
> First looks up the virtusertable and maps then to aliases. All local users
> have a virtusertable entry and for every domain we have we put a
> @domain.bla error:nouser User unknown
> We have cyrus as the local delivery agent.
> 
> config.mc:
> 
> divert(-1)
> VERSIONID(`$Id: generic-bsd4.4.mc,v 8.11 2001/04/04 16:26:02 mic Exp $')dnl
> OSTYPE(bsd4.4)dnl
> DOMAIN(generic)dnl
> define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw')dnl
> define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,needmailhelo,noexpn,novrfy')dnl
> define(`confTO_CONNECT', `1m')dnl
> define(`confTO_QUEUERETURN', `4d')dnl
> define(`confTO_QUEUEWARN', `4h')dnl
> define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/mail/aliases')dnl
> define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS',`CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
> define(`CYRUS_MAILER_FLAGS', `SA5@w|')dnl
> define(`CYRUS_BB_MAILER_FLAGS', `S')dnl
> define(`confLOCAL_MAILER', `cyrus')dnl
> define(`CYRUS_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/local/cyrus/bin/deliver')dnl
> define(`CERT_DIR', `MAIL_SETTINGS_DIR`'certs')dnl
> define(`confCACERT_PATH', `/etc/mail/certs/netbase')dnl
> define(`confCACERT', `CERT_DIR/netbase/CAcert.pem')dnl
> define(`confSERVER_CERT', `CERT_DIR/netbase/cert.pem')dnl
> define(`confSERVER_KEY', `CERT_DIR/netbase/key.pem')dnl
> define(`confCLIENT_CERT', `CERT_DIR/netbase/cert.pem')dnl
> define(`confCLIENT_KEY', `CERT_DIR/netbase/key.pem')dnl
> define(`confRUN_AS_USER',`root:mail')dnl
> TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
> FEATURE(`domaintable')dnl
> FEATURE(`genericstable')dnl
> FEATURE(`mailertable')dnl
> FEATURE(`redirect')dnl
> FEATURE(`use_cw_file')dnl
> FEATURE(`access_db')dnl
> FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients')dnl
> FEATURE(`virtusertable')dnl
> FEATURE(`dnsbl')dnl
> FEATURE(`delay_checks')dnl
> FEATURE(`use_ct_file')dnl
> MAILER(local)dnl
> MAILER(`smtp')
> MAILER(`cyrus')
> LOCAL_RULE_0
> R$=N$: $#local $: $1
> R$=N < @ $=w . >$: $#local $: $1
> Rbb + $+ < @ $=w . >$#cyrusbb $: $1
> 
> 
> Any help would be appreciated!
> 
> Thx in advance,mic
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[Mailman-Users] Mail server

2001-07-05 Thread Karl Carlile

I have downloaded mailman and hope to turn my p3 pc into a mailserver. What
else will i need to accomplish this task in the form of software. I have
linux mandrake 8 and have successfully installed it.

The mailing list will be a low volumed list so this should make the demands
even less.

Karl


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Admin utilities available via web?

2001-07-05 Thread Pug Bainter

Bill Bradford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said something that sounded like:
> You have to be able to edit your MTA's aliases file, and letting this
> be done via a web interface is a HUGE security risk. 

Letting it happen by anyone is a HUGE security risk. So *if* we trust
anyone to do it, it's no less secure (given proper security measures) to
do it via the web or via the command line.

> Plus, you'd have to build in support for all the major MTAs.

Well, that's only sorta true. Configuration options take care of most of
it.

> (example - with Postfix, its best to keep TWO aliases files, both referenced
>  in the mail config file - one for "normal" aliases, and one for 
>  the Mailman lists..)

That's how I do sendmail as well. When I build the new list, I just give
the path to the correct alias file.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mail-wrapper: GID_MISMATCH error *** again ***

2001-07-05 Thread Oliver Egginger

I wrote:
> I have the sense that I am doing something very stupid, ...

Yep,
I can answer now to my own stupid question.
I had set my exim-configuration to do a "su"
for every delivery for the analogs user.
(Exim runs under "root" rigths.)

Thereby exim calls the mail-wrapper with mailman-rigths.
After I have set the the "mail-gid" option to "mailman" it began
to work.

:-)

But now I have an another problem...

:-(

regards
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