Re: [Mailman-Users] Limited posting
> Jim Kutter wrote: > > > Also - as far as stats go, in the smtp log, is that a fair > > count for how many messages really got sent? For what purpose do you need this count? I.e. do you want to bill a customer for the number of email messages that are sent out from his account? Or do you want, e.g. for purposes of selling ads in an ezine, an estimate of the number of messages that actually arrive in somebody's mailbox? Greetings, Norbert. -- A member of FreeDevelopers and the DotGNU Steering Committee: dotgnu.org Norbert Bollow, Weidlistr.18, CH-8624 Gruet (near Zurich, Switzerland) Tel +41 1 972 20 59 Fax +41 1 972 20 69 http://thinkcoach.com Your own domain with all your Mailman lists: $15/month http://cisto.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] VERP and bounce-counting: Offer to create a Mailman patch
> Bounce counting under Mailman does give numbers, but they are > unreliable and shouldn't be used for anything other than SWAGs. To > get "real" bounce counts you'd not only have to use VERP across your > subscriber base, but also VERP across your mailings so that every > message you send not only has a unique return address for each > subscriber, but also has a unique and trackable return address for > each message sent to each subscriber. > > This is doable, but is not entirely trivial. Its quite outside of > Mailman's base area of interest. For those of us who run Mailman on Qmail, it's however very desirable to add support to Mailman for making use of Qmail's VERP features. When/if I'll create a patch to this effect, it'll be easy to include functionality for accurate bounce- counting. I hereby offer to create such a patch under the following variation of the "Street Performer Protocol" ( the original Street Performer Protocol is described in http://www.counterpane.com/street_performer.pdf ) Those who are interested in such a patch are invited to send me, by private email, an informal offer of a sum in USD that they'd pay me if I create such a patch. If the total amount offered is at least USD1000, then I will draft an agreement that these interested parties will sign and fax to me. This agreement will detail exactly what the patch will do, and it will contain the promise of the interested party to pay the specified sum after I release a patch that meets the specifications. If I get such agreements covering at least USD1000, then I will create the patch and publish it. Greetings, Norbert. -- A member of FreeDevelopers and the DotGNU Steering Committee: dotgnu.org Norbert Bollow, Weidlistr.18, CH-8624 Gruet (near Zurich, Switzerland) Tel +41 1 972 20 59 Fax +41 1 972 20 69 http://thinkcoach.com Your own domain with all your Mailman lists: $15/month http://cisto.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] activate under same user as apache - was[ remove_members by other users[
Is there any security problems in using same user for apache and mailman ? - Original Message - From: "Szilard Vizi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ben-Nes Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mailman-Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: Re: remove_members by other users > Ben-Nes Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I need to be able executing remove_members by other users ( like > > nobody ) > > Maybe I can give you a trick. > Generate a list of the members who you want to delete from the list > as the "other user" and dump it to a text file which is readable and > writable for Mailman. > > Save this script into your Mailman/bin/ dir as delete.sh: > > #!/bin/bash > if [ -f /tmp/unwanted_members.txt ]; then >~/bin/remove_members -f /tmp/unwanted_members.txt listname >rm -rf /tmp/unwanted_members.txt > fi > > And run this script from the Mailman's crontab entry. Eg. if you > want to syncronize your memberlist every day 5 am: > > 0 5 * * * /home/mailman/bin/delete.sh > > That is all. > > Szilard Vizi > - > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN:10676592 > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] getting a subscriber's lists
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 11:43:32AM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:16:22 -0700 > Kiat Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, Is there a way through the web interface or other means (say > > as the mailman admin, or a user not root (linux)) that can list > > all the lists a given user is subscribed to? > > There's a button to that effect on every list member's page. ok thx, but i'm looking for a way via the webpage preferably that gives me (an admin) the lists of any given user. > -- > J C Lawrence > -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? > http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. Cheers, Kiat -- Kiat Huang direct: +44 1483 734924 Systems Administratoroffice: +44 1483 300169 Red Hat Europe mobile: +44 7866 626855 10 Alan Turing Road, Surrey Research Park, Guildford GU2 7YF GnuPG CA5FE3D6 8136 261E 9C0B 1837 A6D4 0F30 A223 3513 CA5F - -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] mail slipping through
Hi, Mailman V2.01 using Exim V3.20 my list is setup so that all mail must be approved by the moderator and only members may post to the list, but there are mail messages getting to the clients without it being held for approval. My list server currently has 40 lists with *5000 clients per list. I need to know what I can do to secure my lists more. > Pieter Boshoff > -- > --- > unix sys admin > Tel: +27 11 340 7256 > Fax: +27 11 340 7288 > Cell: +27 83 600 4095 > -- > --- > M-WEB Business Solutions > Making it happen. > > Go shopping @ http://shopping.mweb.co.za > Get your business online @ http://business.mweb.com > > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Catholic Information Network (CIN) Moderators List flooded with blankemails
> Dear Mailman list: > > Since the Catholic Information Network (CIN) changed to the Mailman program > yesterday, our moderators' list (which has 40 to 50 > moderators) is flooded with blank emails. Each moderator's > list gets them with the name of his or her own list. > E.G. mine come to [EMAIL PROTECTED]The forwarded letter > below blanks come to [EMAIL PROTECTED] because he is the > moderator of the CINMAIN list. Can anyone offer suggestions? Obviously, check the maillog carefully. What triggers the generation of these messages? Are you using demime or some other tool in a pipe to Mailman, that might choke on some types of messages? (One way to create a bounce-loop is to use demime on the list-admin address, and have one list-owner's email address generate bouces of a MIME type that demime cannot handle... this type of bounce-loop will flood the other list-owners with empty messages like you have described.) Greetings, Norbert. -- A member of FreeDevelopers and the DotGNU Steering Committee: dotgnu.org Norbert Bollow, Weidlistr.18, CH-8624 Gruet (near Zurich, Switzerland) Tel +41 1 972 20 59 Fax +41 1 972 20 69 http://thinkcoach.com Your own domain with all your Mailman lists: $15/month http://cisto.com -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?
the web server i run doesn't support CGI scripts. i kind of like it that way, in general. from the mailman docs, and from the little bit of playing i've done, it looks as if from a users point of view the web interface isn't strictly needed -- all operations can be accomplished via email messages to the xxx-request address. i also believe the pipermail interface isn't dependent on cgi access, though i might be mistake on that. what's not so clear is whether the admin functions (message and subscription approval, etc) can be done without the web. is there a command line interface for any of that stuff? paul =- paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (arlington, ma, where it's 54.9 degrees) -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Paul Fox wrote: > what's not so clear is whether the admin functions (message and > subscription approval, etc) can be done without the web. is there > a command line interface for any of that stuff? You can build a command line interface for them using ~mailman/bin/withlist, but most of the functionality isn't available out of the box. There are existing scripts for basic functions such as getting a list of users, adding users, and removing users. withlist just exposes the database structure directly. I'd think that a simpler solution could be used if you don't want to expose CGI. You could run a copy of apache (or whatever) on an alternate port which is only accessible via localhost or your internal network. Put the mailman CGI's there and use that for admin functionality, but it won't be exposed to the world. alex -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?
Alex's idea is good, but if you don't want the CGI and therefore you don't want the web-interface controls, you should think about using a different List-Server. There are many open source list -servers which do not use a web interface. Majordomo is a prime example of one. Use the right tool for the job you want to do... Jon Carnes - Original Message - From: "alex wetmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Paul Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI? > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Paul Fox wrote: > > what's not so clear is whether the admin functions (message and > > subscription approval, etc) can be done without the web. is there > > a command line interface for any of that stuff? > > You can build a command line interface for them using > ~mailman/bin/withlist, but most of the functionality isn't available > out of the box. There are existing scripts for basic functions such > as getting a list of users, adding users, and removing users. > withlist just exposes the database structure directly. > > I'd think that a simpler solution could be used if you don't want to > expose CGI. You could run a copy of apache (or whatever) on an > alternate port which is only accessible via localhost or your internal > network. Put the mailman CGI's there and use that for admin > functionality, but it won't be exposed to the world. > > alex > > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?
> Alex's idea is good, but if you don't want the CGI and therefore you don't > want the web-interface controls, you should think about using a different > List-Server. There are many open source list -servers which do not use a > web interface. Majordomo is a prime example of one. Use the right tool for > the job you want to do... thanks. i hadn't been sure whether the cgi functionality was integral to the design, or an optional add-on. i see it's more like the former. i'll also take a look at the scripting hooks that alex mentioned. and running a cgi-enabled server internally is a good idea too. thanks all... paul =- paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (arlington, ma, where it's 65.7 degrees) -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] html in list archives
Is there a way to configure pipermail or mailman to render html emails in the archives instead of just printing out the raw html code? -neil -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 23:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't find the option that sets a default name for vhost. Is > that supposed to be in general options? This is set at config time, preserved in ~/Mailman/Config.py and is updatable/overrideable in ~/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] getting a subscriber's lists
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:51:35 +0100 Kiat Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 11:43:32AM -0700, J C Lawrence wrote: >> On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:16:22 -0700 Kiat Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Hi, Is there a way through the web interface or other means (say >>> as the mailman admin, or a user not root (linux)) that can list >>> all the lists a given user is subscribed to? >> There's a button to that effect on every list member's page. > ok thx, but i'm looking for a way via the webpage preferably that > gives me (an admin) the lists of any given user. You, as admin, can use the same button. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman without CGI?
On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 08:17:57 -0400 Paul Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what's not so clear is whether the admin functions (message and > subscription approval, etc) can be done without the web. is there > a command line interface for any of that stuff? Nope, neither a commandline or email interface (unless you count with_list as a CLI). -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] html in list archives
On 03 Oct 2001 11:30:07 -0400 Neil Cooler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a way to configure pipermail or mailman to render html > emails in the archives instead of just printing out the raw html > code? Currently, no. If this or proper MIME support is needed, use an external archiver ala MHonArc. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Dropping Sendmail
OK... the sendmail problems that have been discussed here at some length have driven me to the point of converting to postfix. So, I was wondering... what do I need to do to Mailman to tell it to use postfix instead of sendmail? Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: DOS 6.0 - A $49 confirmation that you need REAL utilities. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Hosed mail, clueless lusers, is this STILL Monday?
This weekend my ISP changed my setup so instead of routing my subnet directly to the internet, I'm using NAT through a single address. My system changes worked really well. However, he fat-fingered his DNS entries. *sigh* So, when I moved lists from another list server to Mailman and entered the password, the list creation announcement went to never-never land. Of course, "knowing" that the moderators would get the passwords, I didn't bother remembering them, writing them down, or anything sensible like that. Is there a way to recover the mailing list passwords? I don't see it I'd rather recover the passwords than have to change 'em all. Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: A short saying contains much wisdom. - Sophocles. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Major problem
Hi again folks. I seem to be having a major problem. A condition occurrs where Mailman does not respond to anything via e-mail. I.E.Mails to *-request addresses don't work, postings do not appear, etc... This is not a problem in Sendmail because the maillog reports that the mail is being forwarded properly to wrapper. Once it hits that, everything comes to a screeching halt. The web interfaces work properly. Here is a tail of my error log. Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): kids = main(lock) Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 252, in main Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist, msg, msgdata) Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 121, in dispose_message Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): if BouncerAPI.ScanMessages(mlist, mimemsg): Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/BouncerAPI.py", line 59, in ScanMessages Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): addrs = func(msg) Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/DSN.py", line 46, in process Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): if string.lower(msg.gettype()) <> 'multipart/report' or \ Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): TypeError : read-only character buffer, None -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Dropping Sendmail
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:46:46 -0600 Mike Avery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, I was wondering... what do I need to do to Mailman to tell it > to use postfix instead of sendmail? Pretty close to nothing. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Hosed mail, clueless lusers, is this STILL Monday?
> Is there a way to recover the mailing list passwords? I > don't see it I'd rather recover the passwords than > have to change 'em all. > > Thanks, > Mike > -- The passwords are stored in each list's config.db file. Alas, this particular password seems to be encrypted (unlike the users passwords). Perhaps you should check your email bounces. They may contain the original message encased around a bunch of unable to deliver notations Still, if it was just a DNS problem, you MTA may have just cached the message and waited for good entries to begin pouring in - if that is the case, you'll be in good shape. Though next time, you will undoubtedly CC yourself. Take care - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Dropping Sendmail
For me, I think it was actually nothing. Mailman uses the "sendmail" interface to send outgoing mail, and the Postfix version just dropped into place. And the aliases file entries that Mailman generates work fine with Postfix. joe On Wednesday, October 3, 2001, at 12:59 PM, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:46:46 -0600 > Mike Avery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So, I was wondering... what do I need to do to Mailman to tell it >> to use postfix instead of sendmail? > > Pretty close to nothing. > > -- > J C Lawrence > -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? > http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problem
On 03 October 2001, Jim Kutter said: > A condition occurrs where Mailman does not respond to anything via > e-mail. I.E.Mails to *-request addresses don't work, postings do not > appear, etc... > > This is not a problem in Sendmail because the maillog reports that the > mail is being forwarded properly to wrapper. Once it hits that, > everything comes to a screeching halt. Sounds like qrunner isn't running. > Here is a tail of my error log. > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): kids = main(lock) > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 252, >in main > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist, msg, >msgdata) > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 121, >in dispose_message > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): if BouncerAPI.ScanMessages(mlist, mimemsg): > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File >"/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/BouncerAPI.py", line 59, in ScanMessages > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): addrs = func(msg) > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File "/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/DSN.py", >line 46, in process > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): if string.lower(msg.gettype()) <> >'multipart/report' or \ > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): TypeError : read-only character buffer, None OK, maybe qrunner is running, but it's crashing. Try running qrunner manually -- ie. "su - mailman" and run the qrunner crontab line at the shell prompt. Do you still get this traceback? (I would expect you to.) BTW, you forgot to mention: * Mailman version * Python version * OS and OS version * MTA and MTA version Greg -- Greg Ward - software developer[EMAIL PROTECTED] MEMS Exchangehttp://www.mems-exchange.org -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problem
Sorry about that. > * Mailman version - 2.0.6 > * Python version - 1.5 > * OS and OS version - RedHat 6.2 > * MTA and MTA version - Sendmail 8.11 Running "python qrunner 2>1" as mailman displays nothing... -jim - Original Message - From: "Greg Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jim Kutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problem > On 03 October 2001, Jim Kutter said: > > A condition occurrs where Mailman does not respond to anything via > > e-mail. I.E.Mails to *-request addresses don't work, postings do not > > appear, etc... > > > > This is not a problem in Sendmail because the maillog reports that the > > mail is being forwarded properly to wrapper. Once it hits that, > > everything comes to a screeching halt. > > Sounds like qrunner isn't running. > > > Here is a tail of my error log. > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): kids = main(lock) > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line >252, in main > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist, msg, >msgdata) > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line >121, in dispose_message > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): if BouncerAPI.ScanMessages(mlist, >mimemsg): > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File >"/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/BouncerAPI.py", line 59, in ScanMessages > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): addrs = func(msg) > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File >"/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/DSN.py", line 46, in process > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): if string.lower(msg.gettype()) <> >'multipart/report' or \ > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): TypeError : read-only character buffer, None > > OK, maybe qrunner is running, but it's crashing. > > Try running qrunner manually -- ie. "su - mailman" and run the qrunner > crontab line at the shell prompt. Do you still get this traceback? (I > would expect you to.) > > BTW, you forgot to mention: > * Mailman version > * Python version > * OS and OS version > * MTA and MTA version > > Greg > -- > Greg Ward - software developer[EMAIL PROTECTED] > MEMS Exchangehttp://www.mems-exchange.org > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] News group transfers...
I'm playing with using mailman to move some of my favorite news groups into mailing lists, and have run into a snag. What I'd like to do is have everything from the newsgroup make it to the mailing list, but only let subscribers to the mailing list send mail to the mailing list and then on to the news group. Can I do this? At present, I've opened the mailing list so anyone can post to it, and I REALLY don't like doing that... Thanks, Mike -- Mike Avery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (970)-642-0282 (home) (970)-642-0244 (office) FAX: (970)-642-0282 ICQ: 16241692 AOL IM: MAvery81230 * Spam is for lusers who can't get business any other way * A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: Brevity is the soul of lingerie. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] mailman-exim 'returned 2' error
getting the following on a test post.
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:00:37AM -0700, Mail Delivery System wrote:
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).
>
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Child process of list_transport2 transport returned 2 from command:
> /serve/web105/mailman/mail/wrapper
mailman is version 2.0.6
exim is version 3.33
python is 1.5.2
OS is Linux 6.2
mailman was configured:
./configure --prefix=/serve/web105/mailman --with-groupname=exim
--with-cgi-gid=nobody --with-username=exim
here's /serve/web105/mailman/mail/wrapper:
-rwxr-sr-x1 root exim31447 Oct 3 10:59
/serve/web105/mailman/mail/wrapper*
exim:
-rwsr-xr-x1 root mail 508344 Aug 28 12:43 /usr/local/bin/exim*
which runs as user 'exim'.
and here are a few exim configure excerpts:
MAILMAN2_HOME=/serve/web105/mailman
MAILMAN2_WRAP=MAILMAN2_HOME/mail/wrapper
MAILMAN_UID=exim
MAILMAN_GID=exim
list_transport2:
driver = pipe
command = MAILMAN2_WRAP post ${lc:$local_part}
user = MAILMAN_UID
group = MAILMAN_GID
list_request_transport2:
driver = pipe
command = MAILMAN2_WRAP mailcmd ${lc:$local_part}
user = MAILMAN_UID
group = MAILMAN_GID
list_admin_transport2:
driver = pipe
command = MAILMAN2_WRAP mailowner ${lc:$local_part}
user = MAILMAN_UID
group = MAILMAN_GID
--
Rob Lingelbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System Administrator http://www.alegria.com
Computer Animation Lab[EMAIL PROTECTED]
California Institute of the Arts http://tig.alegria.com
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problem
Ok. After some digging it would seem that a message somewhere gets jammed in the qfiles directory, and prevents qrunner from getting to the other messages. The log file indicates that qrunner dies for some reason, but running it from the command line does nothing to the number of messages in the qfiles directory - 1156 .msg and .db files... I think I remedied the problem before, by deleting all the files in the qfiles directory. I now realize just what I did, and I don't want to do that again... Is there a way to get the pipes flowing again without losing all those messages? Thanks -jim - Original Message - From: "Greg Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jim Kutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problem > On 03 October 2001, Jim Kutter said: > > A condition occurrs where Mailman does not respond to anything via > > e-mail. I.E.Mails to *-request addresses don't work, postings do not > > appear, etc... > > > > This is not a problem in Sendmail because the maillog reports that the > > mail is being forwarded properly to wrapper. Once it hits that, > > everything comes to a screeching halt. > > Sounds like qrunner isn't running. > > > Here is a tail of my error log. > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): kids = main(lock) > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line >252, in main > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): keepqueued = dispose_message(mlist, msg, >msgdata) > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line >121, in dispose_message > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): if BouncerAPI.ScanMessages(mlist, >mimemsg): > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File >"/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/BouncerAPI.py", line 59, in ScanMessages > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): addrs = func(msg) > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): File >"/home/mailman/Mailman/Bouncers/DSN.py", line 46, in process > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): if string.lower(msg.gettype()) <> >'multipart/report' or \ > > Oct 03 12:00:04 2001 qrunner(22037): TypeError : read-only character buffer, None > > OK, maybe qrunner is running, but it's crashing. > > Try running qrunner manually -- ie. "su - mailman" and run the qrunner > crontab line at the shell prompt. Do you still get this traceback? (I > would expect you to.) > > BTW, you forgot to mention: > * Mailman version > * Python version > * OS and OS version > * MTA and MTA version > > Greg > -- > Greg Ward - software developer[EMAIL PROTECTED] > MEMS Exchangehttp://www.mems-exchange.org -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Getting Thread View to work
I am using mailman and when i view the archives with the thread view - there is NO thread view. Meaning the breakout of the threadview does not have a tabbing sequence - the various threads are no indented and do not fall under the parent email. Any suggestions why?? Thanks Sara This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Deletion, unscribe, Help
As a computer dummy I, by mistake, signed on the "Mailman", now I am getting from 50 to 150 letters daily. PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE, CAN YOU UNSCRIBE ME ? J. T. Whitlock... [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Mailman-Users] Unscribe...jtwhitlock@kih.net
Please cvan you UNSCRIBE ME, SIGNED ON BY MISTAKE, NOW GETTING UP TO 150 LETTERS DAILY. Any help appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Mailman-Users] Major problem
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:58:40 -0400 Jim Kutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok. After some digging it would seem that a message somewhere gets > jammed in the qfiles directory, and prevents qrunner from getting > to the other messages. The log file indicates that qrunner dies > for some reason, but running it from the command line does nothing > to the number of messages in the qfiles directory - 1156 .msg and > .db files... > I think I remedied the problem before, by deleting all the files > in the qfiles directory. I now realize just what I did, and I > don't want to do that again... > Is there a way to get the pipes flowing again without losing all > those messages? I've been there, twice. In neither case was I able to determine how I got there (tho one case looked like an ill-timed reboot dueing a queue run). Method of solution: cd ~/qfiles mkdir tmp mv * tmp Depending on time and facility you might like to pre-scan all the files in ~/qfiles/tmp and remove all the entries for bounces (odds are that's the majority of them). This will save considerable time in your later processing. Now move small batches (say 15 at a time) of matching .db and .msg from ~/qfiles/tmp to ~/qfiles, and run qrunner manually from the command line. After every pass the ~/qfiles directory should be empty (unless bounces have come in during the interim). Repeat this process, working through the contents of ~/qfiles/tmp. When you find an entry which won't deliver, examine it for corruption and delete/remove as applicable. In my case I found two obviously corrupted entries for bounces. Once I removed those everything else flowed smoothly. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Commands
Hello: I've noticed that the pine MUA recognizes the set of commands that are encapsulated with this list's traffic (List-Help, List-Post, List-Unsubscribe, etc.). Is there a standard for these commands? If so, where can I find out more about them? -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:50:39 -0700 (PDT) eric-mailman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello: I've noticed that the pine MUA recognizes the set of > commands that are encapsulated with this list's traffic > (List-Help, List-Post, List-Unsubscribe, etc.). Is there a > standard for these commands? If so, where can I find out more > about them? RFC 2369. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] naming a list
While I've never had a problem coming up with a name for a mailing list, I am now trying to determine the most standard Internet convention for naming a list. Because I manage the network for a Geology Department, I often have to create users (i.e. for filesharing) for courses. An example of this would be 'gs20' for a course entitled 'Geological Sciences 20'. When the course also needs a mailing list, I thus have to create a new name for the list other than 'gs20'. This is the standard convention that I am seeking. I don't particularly like the listserv convention of '-l' appended to each mailing list name. Any other suggestions? Thanks. Dave Robbins -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Deletion, unscribe, Help
Since about 8 folks have already helped this guy, I can only assume that he is some sort of Troll. Let's ignore him. The Troll may actually be using someone else's email address (someone they obviously don't like) Every part of the body has a function... and in this wide world I believe I know what this guy's function is: releasing pent up methane from the large intestines of life... === On Wednesday 03 October 2001 17:13, JT Whitlock wrote: > As a computer dummy I, by mistake, signed on the "Mailman", now I am > getting from 50 to 150 letters daily. PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE, CAN YOU > UNSCRIBE ME ? > > J. T. Whitlock... > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Attachment: 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] naming a list
On Oct 3, 2001 at 15:43, Dave Robbins wrote: [user accoun gs20, mailing list name gs20] >This is the standard convention that I am seeking. >I don't particularly like the listserv convention of '-l' >appended to each mailing list name. Any other suggestions? In the example which you cited, appending '-l' makes the most sense. However, it is your domain so you can name it pretty much anything you want. gs-20 and variations spring to mind. The least confusing, yet short, one is 'gs20-l'. Sorry, that's the optimum solution for you. -- Satya. http://satya.virtualave.net/> Shoot your program and put it out of its memory! -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Deletion, unscribe, Help
I agree. I have personally tried to help this person in very simple terms to no avail. I apologize for taking up yet more of your bandwidth, but I felt that Mr. Carnes deserved a second for his motion to ignore - Ben On Wednesday 03 October 2001 03:47 pm, Jon Carnes wrote: > Since about 8 folks have already helped this guy, I can only assume that he > is some sort of Troll. Let's ignore him. > > The Troll may actually be using someone else's email address (someone they > obviously don't like) > > Every part of the body has a function... and in this wide world I believe I > know what this guy's function is: releasing pent up methane from the large > intestines of life... -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] naming a list
On Wednesday 03 October 2001 03:43 pm, Dave Robbins wrote: > While I've never had a problem coming up with a name for a mailing list, > I am now trying to determine the most standard Internet convention > for naming a list. > > Because I manage the network for a Geology Department, > I often have to create users (i.e. for filesharing) for courses. > An example of this would be 'gs20' for a course entitled > 'Geological Sciences 20'. > > When the course also needs a mailing list, I thus have to create > a new name for the list other than 'gs20'. Creating a different list name doesn't seem to be necessary to me unless this user (gs20) has to receive email for any other purpose. If it doesn't can't you set the alias up as normal. After all if there isn't supposed to be any other email going to this user account everything that does can be assumed to be destined for the list. ...or perhaps I'm misunderstanding you. > > This is the standard convention that I am seeking. > I don't particularly like the listserv convention of '-l' > appended to each mailing list name. Any other suggestions? If you've got to come up with a convention why not use the '-l' convention. Or do you really feel like reinventing a wheel that other's have already put to use : ) - Ben -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Mailman Message Content
Title: Mailman Message Content Hello all! I've been cruising through Mailman for a couple days, and am extraordinarily pleased with it so far... I'm trying to find the config file for changing the text that is sent out for subscribe messages, or any email messages, for that matter. Can't seem to find it in the FAQ and I've done some archive searching. Any ideas? Thanks a lot! Kerry DeVilbiss -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Creating a Mailing list Server
I had the pleasure of using mailman once before installed on a ISP's Unix server. He installed it but then a few months later closed shop. Is anyone out there in the Sarasota Florida area that could install the software, unix or other system to allow sendmail, perl,python and mailman to operate. I've a dual 200mh processor ,three two gig hard drives. Previous was a win@k advanced server but virus wiped me out I only want to have one mailing list using a DSL connection? Thank you Jean Andre Vallery Sarasota Florida -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Creating a Mailing list Server
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 08:39:42PM -0400, Jean Vallery wrote: > I had the pleasure of using mailman once before installed on a ISP's Unix server. He >installed it but then a few months later closed shop. > Is anyone out there in the Sarasota Florida area that could install the software, >unix or other system to allow sendmail, perl,python and mailman to operate. I've a >dual 200mh processor ,three two gig hard drives. Previous was a win@k advanced server >but virus wiped me out > I only want to have one mailing list using a DSL connection? > Thank you > Jean Andre Vallery > Sarasota Florida > > -- > Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > You might check http://www.linuxjournal.com/glue/ "Groups of Linux Users Everywhere" for possible contacts. google.com returns 1,040 hits to a search for Sarasota Florida Linux -- - Dan Wilder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Technical Manager & Editor SSC, Inc. P.O. Box 55549 Phone: 206-782-8808 Seattle, WA 98155-0549URL http://embedded.linuxjournal.com/ - -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:50:39 -0700 (PDT) > eric-mailman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello: I've noticed that the pine MUA recognizes the set of > > commands that are encapsulated with this list's traffic > > (List-Help, List-Post, List-Unsubscribe, etc.). Is there a > > standard for these commands? If so, where can I find out more > > about them? > > RFC 2369. Do other MUA's (e.g., Outlook, Netscape, etc.) suport RFC 2369? -- Eric P. Los Gatos, CA -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Search Archive Feature?
Thanks for the answers to my previous question, they were very much appreciated. I just have one more: Does Mailman provide a feature for searching archives? I know it can list and store archives, but I havent seen anything about searching them. If not, would a CGI search script do the job? If it can, what would be the best CGI script to use? I have an Entropy search script preinstalled on my server, but it's designed to searc my entire website, not strictly the archives. I noticed Python.org has a feature for searching the archives by Inktomi, but that looks like its going to cost a couple of amputations. Thanks for any help! Frank Pagano (The Berean) Owner of C-SQUAD (http://www.c-squad.org) --- E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal Fax Number: (630) 214-9076 ICQ#: 98723297 AOL Screen Name: Berean333 Yahoo! Messenger ID: tseh_dek ** "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin, 1759 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] managing the list
Greetings, Mailman is brilliant (flattery will hopefully get me everywehre) I run the safe-nz list on behalf of the safety community in New Zealand. the list is sponsored by the National Institute for Water and Atmospheric Research and was originally configured by the then IT manager Wayne Knowles. Like everyone else, we are getting heaps of SPAM. Can I set the configuration to automatically reject SPAM and confine postings to members? and preferably automatically delete the rubbish? Nigel Nigel McCarter B.Sc., Dip. H.S.M., C.S.A. Safety Management and Information Services Ltd Box 23 019 Hamilton Phone 64 7 858 2429 Fax 647 858 2689 Mobile 021 212 4901 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Help
I've just installed mailman onto a Linux server. The installation appears to have gone fine but i really am having trouble finding the web front end. Where abouts is the web front end based?? Sorry to trouble you, Regards Jamie Lamport Product Development Engineer Netkonect Communications plc Opus House, Manor Court, Herriard, Basingstoke, RG25 2PH T: 0870 063 F: 0870 063 W: www.netkonect.netE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] effective business internet guaranteed This e-mail including any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received it in error please advise the sender immediately by return email and then delete it from your system. The unauthorised use, distribution, copying or alteration of this email is strictly forbidden. If you need assistance please contact the Netkonect helpdesk on 0870 063 . -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] Deleting an undeletable list member, removing a bad email address
re: Deleting an undeletable list member, removing a bad email address, currupt membername, unsubscribing multiple members. I've just spent a while looking for help on a problem with a bad address entry in Mailman. Since the first several keywords I tried failed, I thought I'd post what worked. There's also a probable bug indicated here... I added 150+ users to a list via the web interface. Each one was in the format of: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Firstname Lastname Rather than stripping the names, this was parsed into the database as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Firstname All such entries were invalid (no mail sent to them, errors in the logs), and I needed to clean them out. But the web interface refused to remove these users when I 'unchecked' their entries in the admin pages. Attempts to use ./remove_members kept failing, too... until I found this message: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2001-April/010702.html In a nutshell, the above message says one needs to use: ./remove_members listname '[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Firstname' (the quotes are the significant part). In fact, its example was even more complex (having to eliminate a string with quote chars in it). Last of all, here are the quick-n-dirty commandline steps I created. Yes, I know they can be improved on. Since this was my first use of 'sed', though, I was just happy to get things done. Better still would have been to incorporate the changes into the Mailman python code, or at least a line warning about bad membernames and handling quotes into remove_members' documentation: (you'll want to change listname to your list's name, be in the mailman/bin directory, etc... ) ./list_members listname |grep ' - ' >grepdash sed "s/^/.\/remove_members listname '\1/" grepdash >sed1 sed "s/$/\1'/" >sed2 chmod ug+x sed2 ./sed2 Regards, --d2 -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Search Archive Feature?
> Does Mailman provide a feature for searching archives? I know it can > list and store archives, but I havent seen anything about searching them. > If not, would a CGI search script do the job? If it can, what would be > the best CGI script to use? I have an Entropy search script preinstalled > on my server, but it's designed to searc my entire website, not strictly > the archives. I noticed Python.org has a feature for searching the > archives by Inktomi, but that looks like its going to cost a couple of > amputations. Thanks for any help! > > Frank Pagano (The Berean) > Owner of C-SQUAD (http://www.c-squad.org) > - That would be an awesome feature... The mailman archives are all text based, so they should be easy to search and index. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] managing the list
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 04:15:16PM +1200, Nigel McCarter wrote: > Greetings, > Mailman is brilliant (flattery will hopefully get me everywehre) > > I run the safe-nz list on behalf of the safety community in New > Zealand. the list is sponsored by the National Institute for Water and > Atmospheric Research and was originally configured by the then IT manager > Wayne Knowles. > > Like everyone else, we are getting heaps of SPAM. > > Can I set the configuration to automatically reject SPAM and confine > postings to members? and preferably automatically delete the rubbish? > > Nigel > For particularly spam-sensitive or spam-prone lists, I find front-ending the list manager with a procmail filter makes good sense. Procmail is quite flexible, and can discard incoming mail on much more sophisticated critera than any sane mailing list software should or perhaps even could touch. -- - Dan Wilder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Technical Manager & Editor SSC, Inc. P.O. Box 55549 Phone: 206-782-8808 Seattle, WA 98155-0549URL http://embedded.linuxjournal.com/ - -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Help
On Wednesday 03 October 2001 06:58, Jamie Lamport wrote: > I've just installed mailman onto a Linux server. The installation appears > to have gone fine but i really am having trouble finding the web front > end. Where abouts is the web front end based?? > > Sorry to trouble you, > > Regards > > Jamie Lamport > Product Development Engineer You setup the web based front end when you did the install and added the cgi-script /mailman/ to your apache server. Go to the root of your web server then tack on: mailman/admin/ or mailman/listinfo/ This assumes that you have already setup a list, so you have something to look at in the admin interface. To setup a list go to ~mailman/bin and use the newlist command, then be sure to add the aliases to your /etc/aliases file (if you use sendmail...) The web setup for mailman should be in your /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file. You'll get the hang of it fairly quickly. Mailman is a really good List-server. Good Luck - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] managing the list
Dan is right - Procmail can really help you out a lot... I like to stop spam at the MTA (mail server). You can use a lot of tricks to help out with spam. If you are using Sendmail, check out the excellent resources available at: http://www.sendmail.org In particular you should look into using Orbz (I think that's what its called now...) the RBL list. This is a list of open relays used by spammers as well as a list of known spammers. Using it will cut out a lot of spam. Another resource you can look at is: http://www.spamcop.net They will analyze your spam and let you know where it actually came from (and let you know if Orbz would have blocked it...) Good Luck in fighting the good fight! Jon Carnes === > > Greetings, > > Mailman is brilliant (flattery will hopefully get me everywehre) > > > > I run the safe-nz list on behalf of the safety community in New > > Zealand. the list is sponsored by the National Institute for Water and > > Atmospheric Research and was originally configured by the then IT > > manager Wayne Knowles. > > > > Like everyone else, we are getting heaps of SPAM. > > > > Can I set the configuration to automatically reject SPAM and confine > > postings to members? and preferably automatically delete the rubbish? > > > > Nigel > > For particularly spam-sensitive or spam-prone lists, I find > front-ending the list manager with a procmail filter makes good > sense. Procmail is quite flexible, and can discard incoming > mail on much more sophisticated critera than any sane mailing > list software should or perhaps even could touch. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] naming a list
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Dave Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the standard convention that I am seeking. I don't > particularly like the listserv convention of '-l' appended to each > mailing list name. Any other suggestions? Thanks. I'm not aware of an standards per se. An "-l" suffix is moderately common, as is an "l" prefix. "-l" derives from the old BITNET lists IIRC. Suffixes of "-misc", "-talk", "-dev"/"-developers", "-users", "-advocacy" etc are also fairly common if unlikely to suit your needs. I'd likely go with the "-l" suffix. Its minimal, easily recognised, and doesn't polute your namespace/cause likely sites of name collisions. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Commands
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:19:47 -0700 (PDT) eric-mailman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do other MUA's (e.g., Outlook, Netscape, etc.) suport RFC 2369? exmh does (I use it). I understand either mutt does or can be easily persuaded to. Outlook doesn't. I think I heard mention that Mozilla's MUA might/does. Some of the smaller camp Windows MUA seem to (Pegasus?). Its pretty much a crap shoot. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Search Archive Feature?
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:52:40 -0400 The Berean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does Mailman provide a feature for searching archives? Currently, no. You'll need to use an external index/search service. > If not, would a CGI search script do the job? It might, that really depends on the features needed, the size of your archives, the host system, and other factors. I use MnoGoSearch to search my archives and other pages. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 23:24:40 -0700 (PDT) > Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can't find the option that sets a default name for vhost. Is > > that supposed to be in general options? > > This is set at config time, preserved in ~/Mailman/Config.py and is > updatable/overrideable in ~/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. > I couldn't find a file named Config.py anywhere under Mailman installation directory, versions 2.0.1 and 2.0.6. I also run case insensitive grep on all files in the Mailman directory and I can't find any file with strings "vhost" in it. Adding vhost = 'name' in mm_cfg.yp doesn't seem to help either. -akop -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I couldn't find a file named Config.py anywhere under Mailman > installation directory, versions 2.0.1 and 2.0.6. Sorry, ~/Mailman/Defaults.py. Note: read the comments. cf DEFAULT_HOST_NAME and DEFAULT_URL, > I also run case insensitive grep on all files in the Mailman > directory and I can't find any file with strings "vhost" in > it. Adding vhost = 'name' in mm_cfg.yp doesn't seem to help > either. Most of the time you'll want the per-list fields on the first admin page. -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] Public lists not advertised?
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, J C Lawrence wrote: > On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 22:10:20 -0700 (PDT) > Akop Pogosian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I couldn't find a file named Config.py anywhere under Mailman > > installation directory, versions 2.0.1 and 2.0.6. > > Sorry, ~/Mailman/Defaults.py. > > Note: read the comments. > > cf DEFAULT_HOST_NAME and DEFAULT_URL, > DEFAULT_URL is already set correctly. However, like I mentioned previously, changing the DEFAULT_HOST_NAME to match the web server name does not fix the problem, public lists are still not listed. Moreover, DEFAULT_HOST_NAME also becomes part of some addresses like the MAILMAN_OWNER which is set in the following way: MAILMAN_OWNER = 'mailman-owner@%s' % DEFAULT_HOST_NAME -akop -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
