Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe not working
Try Majordomo or Lyris... Majordomo is probably the easier of the two. On Saturday 13 October 2001 17:09, Emery Wang wrote: > Thanks Jon and JC for your answers. Unfortunately, that is too long a > process to put our customers through. I need something that people > can just click a link, and send out an email, and they're > automatically unsubscribed. Requiring people to look up name and > password and type it in is way too much work. Sometimes people forget > they requested to be on our mailing list, and view it as spam. If so, > we want to make the removal process as easy as possible for them. > > So here's a possible feature request for mailman: a simplified > unsubscribe option. > > Anybody know of a good, non-cgi based email program that can do that? > > Thanks. > > -Emery -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe not working
On Oct 13, 2001 at 16:09, Emery Wang wrote: >So here's a possible feature request for mailman: a simplified >unsubscribe option. > >Anybody know of a good, non-cgi based email program that can do that? How about the mailman wrapper at http://satya.virtualave.net/download.html ? -- Satya. http://satya.virtualave.net/> Use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your environment. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe not working
Thanks Jon and JC for your answers. Unfortunately, that is too long a process to put our customers through. I need something that people can just click a link, and send out an email, and they're automatically unsubscribed. Requiring people to look up name and password and type it in is way too much work. Sometimes people forget they requested to be on our mailing list, and view it as spam. If so, we want to make the removal process as easy as possible for them. So here's a possible feature request for mailman: a simplified unsubscribe option. Anybody know of a good, non-cgi based email program that can do that? Thanks. -Emery -- Emery Wang Havana Street, home of the world's greatest original 1940s style clip art web site: http://www.havanastreet.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 512-385-0438 fax: 512-857-0084 "I would have written a shorter letter, but didn't have the time." -Mark Twain -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe not working
When you add the user manually, then Mailman generates a random password for them. If you let Mailman send the individual a Welcome message, then the password is included as a part of that message. Note: ALL users have passwords - even if you didn't set a password for the user. You can go to the listinfo page of your list and have it email the password to you, or you can look directly at the database and see the password for that user. Jon Carnes === On Saturday 13 October 2001 13:46, Emery Wang wrote: > Thanks, Jon. One thing, however: there is no password involved here, > because I am manually inputting a list of email addresses from > customers who have been in my database before I started using mailman. > > So, for email addresses that have not be subscribed by the user, but > manually inputted by the admin, how do these guys unsubscribe? > > Thanks > > -Emery > > \At 1:36 PM -0400 10/13/01, Jon Carnes wrote: > >The proper format for unsubscribe would be: > > unsubscribe mypassword [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Include your password with the request. You should also be able to > >unsubscribe using the listinfo web page. > > > >Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe not working
On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:46:04 -0500 Emery Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, for email addresses that have not be subscribed by the user, > but manually inputted by the admin, how do these guys unsubscribe? The system will have automatically assigned them a randomly generated password. They'll have to query Mailman to find out what their password is (and reset it if wished). -- J C Lawrence -(*)Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe not working
Thanks, Jon. One thing, however: there is no password involved here, because I am manually inputting a list of email addresses from customers who have been in my database before I started using mailman. So, for email addresses that have not be subscribed by the user, but manually inputted by the admin, how do these guys unsubscribe? Thanks -Emery \At 1:36 PM -0400 10/13/01, Jon Carnes wrote: >The proper format for unsubscribe would be: > unsubscribe mypassword [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Include your password with the request. You should also be able to >unsubscribe using the listinfo web page. > >Jon Carnes > >On Saturday 13 October 2001 12:21, Emery Wang wrote: >> Hi. I am testing mailman, and sending messages to another email >> account I have. But when I try to unsubscribe by sending a message to >> the unsubscribe email link, and putting "unsubscribe" in the subject >> line, mailman returns this error (the ellipses are where the actual >> >> addresses were): >> >This is an automated response. >> > >> >There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via >> >the administrative address... >> > >> >To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to >> >...with the word "help" in the >> >subject line or in the body of the message. >> > >> >If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list, >> >please send your message to... >> > >> >The following is a detailed description of the problems. >> > >> > >> >* unsubscribe >> > >> >> Usage: unsubscribe [] >> >> Command? thanks >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. >> >> -Emery -- Emery Wang Havana Street, home of the world's greatest original 1940s style clip art web site: http://www.havanastreet.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 512-385-0438 fax: 512-857-0084 "I would have written a shorter letter, but didn't have the time." -Mark Twain -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe not working
The proper format for unsubscribe would be: unsubscribe mypassword [EMAIL PROTECTED] Include your password with the request. You should also be able to unsubscribe using the listinfo web page. Jon Carnes On Saturday 13 October 2001 12:21, Emery Wang wrote: > Hi. I am testing mailman, and sending messages to another email > account I have. But when I try to unsubscribe by sending a message to > the unsubscribe email link, and putting "unsubscribe" in the subject > line, mailman returns this error (the ellipses are where the actual > > addresses were): > >This is an automated response. > > > >There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via > >the administrative address... > > > >To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to > >...with the word "help" in the > >subject line or in the body of the message. > > > >If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list, > >please send your message to... > > > >The following is a detailed description of the problems. > > > > > >* unsubscribe > > > >> Usage: unsubscribe [] > > Command? thanks > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > -Emery -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface not working...
Apache is run under 'httpd/httpd' (user/group). I compiled mailman using the --with-cgi-gid=httpd as I thought it was nobody at first and got 'expected GID xx, got GID xx' errors when viewing the pages. I think it's running with the right GID now however... - Ralph At 10:30 AM 10/13/2001 -0400, Jon Carnes wrote: >You might want to add the user "nobody" (or whatever you use to run Apache) >to the group "mailman". Then make sure that the group mailman can write to >that dir and those files. > >On Friday 12 October 2001 23:12, Ralph Forsythe wrote: > > Permissions on the logs dir are admin:mailman. (admin was the acct used > > to install the program.) Permissions on the error logfile are > > mailman:mailman -- this seems like it would work, yes? Both the dir and > > file are U+G writeable. > > > > Oh, sorry for the HTML on the previous post. Didn't think that coped > > over... > > > > Thanks, > > - Ralph > > > > At 08:07 PM 10/12/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > > > Now, the mailman logs don't show anything. However the httpd error > > > > log shows the following output (below), which makes me think there is > > > > some > > > > > > kind > > > > > > > of permission thing going on. > > > > > >Yes, certainly. So surely the permissions on > > > /usr/local/mailman/logs/error are gonna be interesting, yes? > > > > > >So..um...what are they? > > > > > >They oughta be group-write mailman, because error lives in > > >a directory that ought to be group-sticky mailman... > > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
[Mailman-Users] unsubscribe not working
Hi. I am testing mailman, and sending messages to another email account I have. But when I try to unsubscribe by sending a message to the unsubscribe email link, and putting "unsubscribe" in the subject line, mailman returns this error (the ellipses are where the actual addresses were): >This is an automated response. > >There were problems with the email commands you sent to Mailman via >the administrative address... > >To obtain instructions on valid Mailman email commands, send email to >...with the word "help" in the >subject line or in the body of the message. > >If you want to reach the human being that manages this mailing list, >please send your message to... > >The following is a detailed description of the problems. > > >* unsubscribe >> Usage: unsubscribe [] Command? thanks Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Emery -- Emery Wang Havana Street, home of the world's greatest original 1940s style clip art web site: http://www.havanastreet.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 512-385-0438 fax: 512-857-0084 "I would have written a shorter letter, but didn't have the time." -Mark Twain -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] How to personalize e-mails
On Saturday 13 October 2001 00:47, Chris Gozdzik wrote: > Hi there! > > I'd like to switch to Mailman, but I'd like to maintain personalized e- > mails. Is it possible? I couldn't find any info on that. > My subscribers' list contains first name and e-mail. > I'd appreciate any help. > Chris > I'm not aware of Mailman being able to do this, and as far as I know, there are no plans to implement a scheme wherein mailman actually modifies the body of an email (in your case to substitute a general salutation to include the first name). There are many other fine programs that can accommodate you however. Perhaps someone else on the list can recommend one. Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] I'm new - HELP
On Friday 12 October 2001 23:18, Miss Lala wrote: > Ok, so I am just starting this email thing. I have a mailman list on my > site, and I list this address as the admin address. However,when I send a > message from this address, it got held up for an approval...from me!! How > do I send a message and check archives and do all of that as the Admin, > and not as a subscriber? > > Sorry if this is a "simple" question, but I am new. > > lala > www.thePoetsLounge.net The mailman admin email address has no special rights. Since email addresses can be spoofed, this is a "good thing" (tm). You can however, set your list to allow specific email addresses to post without approval. Web over to the admin pages for your list and check out the "Privacy Options" page: "Addresses of members accepted for posting to this list without implicit approval requirement." Take care - Jon Carnes -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Re: [Mailman-Users] web interface not working...
You might want to add the user "nobody" (or whatever you use to run Apache) to the group "mailman". Then make sure that the group mailman can write to that dir and those files. On Friday 12 October 2001 23:12, Ralph Forsythe wrote: > Permissions on the logs dir are admin:mailman. (admin was the acct used > to install the program.) Permissions on the error logfile are > mailman:mailman -- this seems like it would work, yes? Both the dir and > file are U+G writeable. > > Oh, sorry for the HTML on the previous post. Didn't think that coped > over... > > Thanks, > - Ralph > > At 08:07 PM 10/12/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > > Now, the mailman logs don't show anything. However the httpd error > > > log shows the following output (below), which makes me think there is > > > some > > > > kind > > > > > of permission thing going on. > > > >Yes, certainly. So surely the permissions on > > /usr/local/mailman/logs/error are gonna be interesting, yes? > > > >So..um...what are they? > > > >They oughta be group-write mailman, because error lives in > >a directory that ought to be group-sticky mailman... > -- Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
