Re: [Mailman-Users] mail wrapper error

2001-10-15 Thread Ben Burnett

At 08:55 PM 10/14/01 -0400, Ken wrote:
>Well, down to the 'last' error to overcome, I hope.  When I try to send a
>registration confirm I get an error.
>
>
>Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 12, GOT gid 2.  (Reconfigure to take 2?)
>554 5.3.0 "|/var/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd atmswap"... unknown mailer
>error 2
>
>2 is root/bin/daemon.  I tried recompiling using --with-mail-GID=2, but
>compiling shows:  checking for mail wrapper GID... (cached) 12

Try again using "--with-mail-gid=2".

If it looks like I'm saying the same thing you're doing don't forget that 
parameters are case sensitive.  Then go take a walk and get some fresh 
air... try not to think about computers for a while.  Look at some mountains.

Good Luck,

- Ben


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is there a limit

2001-10-15 Thread Jon Carnes

> Is there a limit how many names can be on a list.  Does it slow
> down if a list gets too big.
> This only happens trying to get to the admin page.  I can still get to
> the subscribe info.  It opens at /info not on /admin.
> I am experiencing a problem with only one of my lists.  It happens
> to be the largest list.  All of the other lists open fine and work
> correctly.
>
> Thank You
> MikeT

A fast processor, SCSI disk subsystem, and an optimized MTA like Postfix 
can help out with large lists.  Folks have reported lists as high as 
200,000 email addresses without problems.

You might want to check your lockfiles in ~mailman/locks
If there are files in there, then Mailman may think that some other process 
is using the database, and is locking you out.  The name of the lock file 
will contain the name of the mailing list and end in the process number 
that has the lock.

Assuming you find a lock file keeping you out, you can find the process by
ps ax |grep process#  (at least in Linux)

If the process is non-existent, then delete the lock file.  If the process
is frozen, kill the process first, then remove the lock file.  If its still 
running, then you've got to speed up your system!

Good Luck - Jon Carnes

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[Mailman-Users] Is there a limit

2001-10-15 Thread miket

Is there a limit how many names can be on a list.  Does it slow 
down if a list gets too big.  
This only happens trying to get to the admin page.  I can still get to 
the subscribe info.  It opens at /info not on /admin.
I am experiencing a problem with only one of my lists.  It happens 
to be the largest list.  All of the other lists open fine and work 
correctly.

Thank You
MikeT
**
SciTech Software Inc,
Michael E. Todd
System Administrator 
505 Wall Street
Chico, CA 95928
530.894.8400  ext 151

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Hanging admin pages

2001-10-15 Thread Jo Brooks

If your list is being archived, you might want to see if the archive 
has grown excessively large.

I ran into this exact problem with one of my lists a few months ago, 
but no one has as yet been able to answer yes or no to the questions 
I posed back then...mostly regarding the impact of list performance 
when you've got archives that are so massive that the list delivery
cycle cannot be completed (but the archives are consistently updated
with the new messages).

Then again, maybe my original question should have also been posed
to the developers list as well, but I figured some some of those
talented folks might also peruse this list.


jo


Michelle Murrain wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I have a mailman installation that has been working fine for probably 6
> months now. It's running about 20 lists. All of a sudden, the admin page to
> only one of those lists is not coming up - it just hangs. You can get to
> any of the other admin interfaces for other lists on the server, and they
> work fine.
> 
> Any suggestions as to why this might be happening? Nothing significant has
> changed in the server configuration lately.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> .Michelle
> 
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Lost admin password/aliases

2001-10-15 Thread Ben Burnett

On Monday 15 October 2001 01:37 pm, Jon Carnes wrote:
> > So my questions are:
> > 1) How can I recover/reset the administrative password?
>
> You can reset the password by using ~mailman/bin/mmsitepass
> This will let you set a site-wide password that is good for administering
> any lists.
>
> > 2) How can I regenerate the aliases for the lists Mailman manages?
>
> The aliases are all of the form:
>
> ## ebulletin mailing list
> ## created: 19-Jan-2001 craige
> ebulletin:   "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post ebulletin"
> ebulletin-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner ebulletin"
> ebulletin-request:   "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd ebulletin"
> ebulletin-owner: ebulletin-admin
>
> Be sure that the path to "wrapper" is correct (~mailman/mail/wrapper), and
> that you have a link to that file in your /etc/smrsh directory (if you use
> Sendmail and have smrsh turned on).
>

Don't forget to also add the aliases:

mailman: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailman-owner: mailman

to catch any site admin related email.

- Ben

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Giving descriptive names to mail adresses

2001-10-15 Thread Jon Carnes

> So I would like some way to add some sort of description to these email
> adresses.
>
> Standard email headers allow for a ".." part (e.g.
>
> "Gerhard den Hollander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Is there some trick to do the same in mailman , so that the membership
list
> will look like e.g.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Joe Dalton"
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  "Averell Dalton:
>
> &c &c ?
>
>From what I have seen on the list, you cannot use a descriptive field with
the email address.  You may wish to make this a Requested Future Feature.
It actually wouldn't be that hard to make happen.  In fact, since its open
source, feel free to do it yourself!  I know I would (except I don't have
the time...).

You might want to make this a self-service item.  Let users subscribe and
unsubscribe themselves.  Simply add a link to the bottom of each email
pointing to the http...listinfo page of your mailman list.  You will still
have confirm on any subscribes, but it will be much less work for you, and
you won't have to match up obscure email addresses to folks names!

Take care - Jon Carnes


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Lost admin password/aliases

2001-10-15 Thread Jon Carnes

> So my questions are:
> 1) How can I recover/reset the administrative password?

You can reset the password by using ~mailman/bin/mmsitepass
This will let you set a site-wide password that is good for administering
any lists.

>
> 2) How can I regenerate the aliases for the lists Mailman manages?

The aliases are all of the form:

## ebulletin mailing list
## created: 19-Jan-2001 craige
ebulletin:   "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post ebulletin"
ebulletin-admin: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner ebulletin"
ebulletin-request:   "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailcmd ebulletin"
ebulletin-owner: ebulletin-admin

Be sure that the path to "wrapper" is correct (~mailman/mail/wrapper), and
that you have a link to that file in your /etc/smrsh directory (if you use
Sendmail and have smrsh turned on).



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Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2001-10-15 Thread Jon Carnes

Try Yahoo.com.  They have a great setup for allowing novices to setup their
own mailing lists complete with archiving.
If you get to the point where you have your server setup and you have
installed Mailman, please let us know if we can help.

Jon Carnes
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From: "Vic Cekvenich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 7:21 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)


> I need help seting up a mail server, list and news server.
> Any suggestions?
> Vic @proj.com
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Help

2001-10-15 Thread Jon Carnes

You need the admin password for your list.  The folks who setup your mailman
mailing list should have sent that password to you.  This password is
specifically to allow you to admin this specific list.  The password is not
the same as the one for your email account on this list (or at least it
doesn't have to be..).

Query the system admin for the password.

Jon Carnes
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From: "ORL@ORL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 10:41 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Help


> Hello.  I have a Mailman list through Hostway.com.  I receive an email
when
> someone requests to send a mailing to the list and that email contains a
> link.  The link refers me to a page that asks for a password.  This
password
> is different than the password I use to access the list in the Hostway
> Control Panel.  How do I find out the other password?  Thank you for your
> time.
>
> -OptimumRL
> www.SimRacingStore.com
> www.OptimumRacingLeague.com
> www.GoSimRacing.com
> www.SimTournament.com
> www.TheRacingSource.com
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] new customer question

2001-10-15 Thread Jon Carnes

You might get better answers if you include the errors you are getting.
There are some documented cases where the extra header info included in
Mailman generated mail has caused problems for non-standard email clients.

If this is your problem then please forward on RFC  2369 to whomever is
responsible for your email client.

Take care - Jon Carnes
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From: "Lonnie Sorensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 5:38 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] new customer question


> Dear Mailman!
>
> Our network has just switched to your program.
> I am a moderator of a list.
> I am not fond of msn as an isp, but I have a 3 yr. contract so I could
save
> money ---and it has been AWFUL.
> My question is...have you heard of difficulties with your system and
> msn?
> My mail to my list has been getting hung up since the switch.
>
> Lonnie Sorensen
>
>
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[Mailman-Users] Giving descriptive names to mail adresses

2001-10-15 Thread Gerhard den Hollander

One of the mailman mailinglists I maintain is an annoucne type of
mailinglist.

Occasional short, informational messages to a large group of subscribers.

I manage all subscriptions/unsubscriptions myself.

There's a couple of 100 email adresses subscribed.

Unfortunately the membership management gets a tad complcated.
If I look at the membership pages all I get is a lot of email adresses

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
&c &c &c ...

Which is a bit of a pain if I have to sort some users out if I only have
their name.
So I would like some way to add some sort of description to these email
adresses.

Standard email headers allow for a ".." part (e.g.

"Gerhard den Hollander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Is there some trick to do the same in mailman , so that the membership list
will look like e.g.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Joe Dalton"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  "Averell Dalton:

&c &c ?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Hanging admin pages

2001-10-15 Thread Jon Carnes

Check the lock files in ~mailman/locks  If there are files in there, then
Mailman may think that some other process is using the database, and is
locking you out.  The name of the lock file will contain the name of the
mailing list and end in the process number that has the lock.

Assuming you find a lock file keeping you out, you can find the process by
ps ax |grep process#

If the process is non-existent, then delete the lock file.  If the process
is frozen, kill the process first, then remove the lock file.

Good Luck - Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: "Michelle Murrain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 1:27 PM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Hanging admin pages


> Hi Folks,
>
> I have a mailman installation that has been working fine for probably 6
> months now. It's running about 20 lists. All of a sudden, the admin page
to
> only one of those lists is not coming up - it just hangs. You can get to
> any of the other admin interfaces for other lists on the server, and they
> work fine.
>
> Any suggestions as to why this might be happening? Nothing significant has
> changed in the server configuration lately.
>
> Thanks!
>
> .Michelle
>
> ---
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> http://www.murrain.net/public_key.html for pgp public key
>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated List

2001-10-15 Thread Jon Carnes

Web-over to the admin interface and under "Privacy Options" edit the field:
  "Alias names (regexps) which qualify as explicit to or cc destination
names for this list"

Add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the field.

That should force mailman to allow the name.  Out of curiosity, does you
server have multiple domain names (like kanal.vg and kanal.org)?

Jon Carnes
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From: "craver voun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jon Carnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Nigel Metheringham"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated List


> > In the Admin web pages under "General Options" what is the value for
"Host
> > name this list prefers"?  According to your message, it needs to be
> > "kanal.vg".
>
> It is set to "kanal.vg" already.
>
>
>
> > > This is the second time I get this message from the list :?
> > > About the "to" and "cc" fields in the messages I send, here is tha
> header
> > of
> > > one of the messages I sent and was not post directly:
> > >
> > >   Reply-To: "craver voun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >   From: "craver voun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >   To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >   Subject: prueba 9
> > >   Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:23:06 +0200
> > >   Organization: K#VG
> > >   MIME-Version: 1.0
> > >   Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> > >boundary="=_NextPart_000_00FC_01C150DE.AD26AF80"
> > >   X-Priority: 3
> > >   X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > >   X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
> > >   X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.
> > >
> > > We can see that the "to" field is set up, and the "<>" symbols should
> not
> > be
> > > a problem since many messages posted in the Mailman list with that
same
> > > notation; it could be that tha Mailman list is not using Mailman (...
I
> > > don't think so)
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 2001-10-09 at 14:56, craver voun wrote:
> > > > > I have checked and the email I am using to send the messsage is
> > already
> > > suscribed. This is the message i get every time I try to send a
message:
> > > > >
> > > > > Your mail to 'Lista' with the subject
> > > > > prueba 3
> > > > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for
> approval.
> > > > > The reason it is being held:
> > > > > Message has implicit destination
> > > > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will
> > receive
> > > > > notification of the moderator's decision.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't undestand what "Message has implicit destination" means.
Any
> > > idea?
> > > >
> > > > It means that the address of the list is not in the To: or Cc:
> headers.
> > > >
> > > > This often means that you have an incorrect host set in the "Host
name
> > > > this list prefers" (bottom of General options page), or you are
using
> an
> > > > alias it does not know about.
> > > >
> > > > [It would have made it much easier to give you accurate information
if
> > > > you had included the error message the first time you posted]
> > > >
> > > > Nigel.
>
>
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[Mailman-Users] Hanging admin pages

2001-10-15 Thread Michelle Murrain

Hi Folks,

I have a mailman installation that has been working fine for probably 6 
months now. It's running about 20 lists. All of a sudden, the admin page to 
only one of those lists is not coming up - it just hangs. You can get to 
any of the other admin interfaces for other lists on the server, and they 
work fine.

Any suggestions as to why this might be happening? Nothing significant has 
changed in the server configuration lately.

Thanks!

.Michelle

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Re: [Mailman-Users] searchable archives?

2001-10-15 Thread Richard Barrett

At 15:45 11/10/2001 -0400, Jimmy McDonald wrote:

>I have a couple more questions before I start trying this out.
>
>The mailman server is an internal server and cannot
>be accessed from the outside world so I plan to
>push the archives outside the firewall every night.

These comments refer to the patches listed below and as a general comment 
your proposed approach will not fit that well with using the patches.

If you intend to copy the html version of your mail archives in this way 
there are a number of issues to consider:

1. You may want to rewrite the html pages as you copy them because some of 
them (e.g. index.html, subject.html, thread.html and date.html) have 
installation specific information (extracted from 
$prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py e.g. DEFAULT_URL) baked into them. These URLs 
will presumably be invalid once the pages have been copied.

2. Sort out your approach to controlling access to these archives. For 
example, access to private Mailman archives is normally mediated by the 
$prefix/Mailman/Cgi/private.py script (i.e this script is called to return 
archived e-mail from private archives) which in turn refers to the Mailman 
'database' of information for the list containing subscriber ids and 
passwords. These mechanisms will presumably not be available on the machine 
outside/on the firewall which will be serving the copied archive data. The 
patches strive to retain the standard Mailman privacy protection. The URLs 
returned by htdig searches will all make the browser go via the 
$prefix/Mailman/Cgi/htdig.py script which imposes the same access 
restrictions as private.py (which happens to be none in the case of public 
archives). Again, this script presumably won't be available on your machine 
outside/on the firewall.


>If I install mailman with the htdig patch on my web
>server (and not run sendmail) will this work or does the

I can't see the relevance of the MTA to the issue.

The patches below are designed to seamlessly integrate search with the 
standard Mailman means of accessing either private or public html mail 
archives produced by Mailman built-in archiver, pipermail.

You could use htdig or any other search engine to provide search facilities 
for html archives you have transferred outside your firewall but then the 
situation is sufficiently different that the patches have limited relevance.

>htdig information get processed as a message is archived?
>If so, can the htdig database be pushed as well?

The patches use htdig in a fairly conventional way and include a cron 
activated script which runs htdig daily to updates its indexes of the mail 
archives. One of the specialisations is that the patches automatically 
create an htdig config file per mail list. This leads to per list htdig 
indexes and per list searches: which is how list privacy is maintained. If 
you are going to move public list archives outside you may not want this 
fine grain control over search and access control.

If you are going to proceed as you suggest and transfer archives from 
inside to outside server each night then you might just as well do your own 
set up of htdig/your-search-engine-of-choice and build the indexes on the 
external server each night after doing the data transfer.

Hope the above helps.

>Thanks,
>Jimmy
>
>
>>>I have a mailman list that keeps archives and
>>>someone wants me to make those archives
>>>searchable via a web browser.
>>>
>>>Is there a way mailman can do this?
>>>Any other thoughts?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Jimmy
>>>
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>>The following patches integrate the htdig (http://www.htdig.org/) search 
>>engine with Mailman.
>>
>>http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=444879&group_id=103&atid=300103
>>
>>http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=444884&group_id=103&atid=300103
>>
>>The main features of the patch, from its sourceforge summary are:
>>
>>1. per list search facility with a search form on the
>>list's TOC page.
>>
>>2. maintenance of privacy of private archives which
>>requires the user to establish their credentials via
>>the normal private archive access before any access
>>via htdig is allowed.
>>
>>3. a common base URL for both public and private
>>archive access via htsearch results so that htdig
>>indices are unaffected by changing an archive from
>>private to public and vice versa. All access to
>>archives via htdig is controlled by a new wrapped cgi-
>>bin script called htdig.py.
>>
>>4. a new cron activated script and extra crontab entry
>>which runs htdig regularly to maintain the per list
>>search indices.
>>
>>5. automatic creation, deletion and maintenance of
>>htdig configuration files and such. Beyond installing
>>htdig and telling Mailman where it is via mm_cfg you
>>do not have to do any other setup. Well not quite you
>>do have to set up a single 

[Mailman-Users] Someone trying to use mailman for spamming?

2001-10-15 Thread Vaughn Cleminson

Hi All

I think someone is trying to get my mailman to spam for them.
My question is, am I right, and did it work?

Thanks
Vaughn

I found the following in my sendmail logs:
Oct 15 17:00:10 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4097]: f9FJ0Ah04097:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1659, class=-60,
nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=IJUNC-OBIWAN [127.0.0.1]
Oct 15 17:00:14 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4101]: f9FJ0Eh04101:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1398, class=-60,
nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=IJUNC-OBIWAN [127.0.0.1]
Oct 15 17:00:16 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4105]: f9FJ0Fh04105:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1376, class=-60,
nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=IJUNC-OBIWAN [127.0.0.1]
Oct 15 17:00:18 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4098]: f9FJ0Ah04097:
to="|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner ee-newslist",
ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0), delay=00:00:08,
xdelay=00:00:08, mailer=prog, pri=138708, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
Oct 15 17:00:18 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4102]: f9FJ0Eh04101:
to="|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner elektronlist",
ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0),
delay=00:00:04, xdelay=00:00:04, mailer=prog, pri=138421, dsn=2.0.0,
stat=Sent
Oct 15 17:00:19 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4106]: f9FJ0Fh04105:
to="|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner energizelist",
ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (8/0),
delay=00:00:04, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=prog, pri=138421, dsn=2.0.0,
stat=Sent
Oct 15 17:00:33 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4080]: f9F6ALK25168:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=12:50:12, xdelay=00:01:02, mailer=esmtp,
pri=1203734, relay=mail.iupi.pt. [195.22.0.198], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:
Connection timed out with mail.iupi.pt.
Oct 15 17:00:33 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4080]: f9F6AMK25179:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=12:50:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp,
pri=1203734, relay=mail.iupi.pt., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection timed
out with mail.iupi.pt.
Oct 15 17:00:33 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4080]: f9F6AMK25173:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=12:50:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp,
pri=1203742, relay=mail.iupi.pt., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection timed
out with mail.iupi.pt.
Oct 15 17:00:33 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4080]: f9F6AMK25176:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=12:50:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp,
pri=1203746, relay=mail.iupi.pt., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection timed
out with mail.iupi.pt.
Oct 15 17:00:49 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4080]: f9F1qQK24283:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=17:08:23, xdelay=00:00:15, mailer=esmtp,
pri=1652156, relay=mx2.777.net.cn. [61.157.152.12], dsn=4.0.0,
stat=Deferred: Connection reset by mx2.777.net.cn.
Oct 15 17:00:49 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4080]: f9F1qQK24286:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=17:08:22, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp,
pri=1652156, relay=mx1.777.net.cn., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection
reset by mx1.777.net.cn.
Oct 15 17:00:49 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4080]: f9F1qPK24279:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=17:08:24, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp,
pri=1652164, relay=mx2.777.net.cn., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection
reset by mx2.777.net.cn.
Oct 15 17:00:49 IJUNC-OBIWAN sendmail[4080]: f9F1qOK24274:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=17:08:24, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp,
pri=1652168, relay=mx1.777.net.cn., dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection
reset by mx1.777.net.cn.--


Vaughn Cleminson
the-i-junction.com
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Re: [Mailman-Users] new customer question

2001-10-15 Thread Paul C. Williamson

I thought MSN was part of Microsoft?  Doesn't Microsoft hate open source 
stuff?  

Interesting

>>> "Lonnie Sorensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/13/01 05:38PM >>>
Dear Mailman!

Our network has just switched to your program.
I am a moderator of a list.
I am not fond of msn as an isp, but I have a 3 yr. contract so I could save
money ---and it has been AWFUL.
My question is...have you heard of difficulties with your system and
msn?
My mail to my list has been getting hung up since the switch.

Lonnie Sorensen


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[Mailman-Users] Help

2001-10-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello.  I have a Mailman list through Hostway.com.  I receive an email when
someone requests to send a mailing to the list and that email contains a
link.  The link refers me to a page that asks for a password.  This password
is different than the password I use to access the list in the Hostway
Control Panel.  How do I find out the other password?  Thank you for your
time.

-OptimumRL
www.SimRacingStore.com
www.OptimumRacingLeague.com
www.GoSimRacing.com
www.SimTournament.com
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[Mailman-Users] new customer question

2001-10-15 Thread Lonnie Sorensen

Dear Mailman!

Our network has just switched to your program.
I am a moderator of a list.
I am not fond of msn as an isp, but I have a 3 yr. contract so I could save
money ---and it has been AWFUL.
My question is...have you heard of difficulties with your system and
msn?
My mail to my list has been getting hung up since the switch.

Lonnie Sorensen


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[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2001-10-15 Thread Vic Cekvenich

I need help seting up a mail server, list and news server.
Any suggestions?
Vic @proj.com


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[Mailman-Users] Lost admin password/aliases

2001-10-15 Thread Christopher Johnson

Yes, I get to wear the pointy hat ATM.

I upgraded the department's Solaris box from 2.6->2.8 and forgot to save
the aliases mailman generated for the lists it runs.  It's also been so
long since I worked on Mailman that I've forgotten the admin password.

So my questions are:
1) How can I recover/reset the administrative password?

2) How can I regenerate the aliases for the lists Mailman manages?

Thanks in advance!

Chris Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Your premise is based on logic, 
which is why it won't work."


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[Mailman-Users] Adding NNTP Gateway info to HTMLFormater.py

2001-10-15 Thread jerry

I added the following lines to HTMLFormatter.py:

   '' : self.linked_newsgroup,
   '' : self.nntp_host,

in the "GetStandardReplacements(self)" def return {}. This makes it possible to add 
generic newsgroup/newshost info to, for example, the listinfo page.

Now, I have one generic 'general list info' page for non-gatewayed lists, and one for 
gatewayed lists.

Jerry


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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated List

2001-10-15 Thread craver voun

> In the Admin web pages under "General Options" what is the value for "Host
> name this list prefers"?  According to your message, it needs to be
> "kanal.vg".

It is set to "kanal.vg" already.



> > This is the second time I get this message from the list :?
> > About the "to" and "cc" fields in the messages I send, here is tha
header
> of
> > one of the messages I sent and was not post directly:
> >
> >   Reply-To: "craver voun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   From: "craver voun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   Subject: prueba 9
> >   Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:23:06 +0200
> >   Organization: K#VG
> >   MIME-Version: 1.0
> >   Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> >boundary="=_NextPart_000_00FC_01C150DE.AD26AF80"
> >   X-Priority: 3
> >   X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> >   X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
> >   X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.
> >
> > We can see that the "to" field is set up, and the "<>" symbols should
not
> be
> > a problem since many messages posted in the Mailman list with that same
> > notation; it could be that tha Mailman list is not using Mailman (... I
> > don't think so)
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > > On Tue, 2001-10-09 at 14:56, craver voun wrote:
> > > > I have checked and the email I am using to send the messsage is
> already
> > suscribed. This is the message i get every time I try to send a message:
> > > >
> > > > Your mail to 'Lista' with the subject
> > > > prueba 3
> > > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for
approval.
> > > > The reason it is being held:
> > > > Message has implicit destination
> > > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will
> receive
> > > > notification of the moderator's decision.
> > > >
> > > > I don't undestand what "Message has implicit destination" means. Any
> > idea?
> > >
> > > It means that the address of the list is not in the To: or Cc:
headers.
> > >
> > > This often means that you have an incorrect host set in the "Host name
> > > this list prefers" (bottom of General options page), or you are using
an
> > > alias it does not know about.
> > >
> > > [It would have made it much easier to give you accurate information if
> > > you had included the error message the first time you posted]
> > >
> > > Nigel.



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated List

2001-10-15 Thread Jon Carnes

In the Admin web pages under "General Options" what is the value for "Host
name this list prefers"?  According to your message, it needs to be
"kanal.vg".

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: "craver voun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Nigel Metheringham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated List


> This is the second time I get this message from the list :?
> About the "to" and "cc" fields in the messages I send, here is tha header
of
> one of the messages I sent and was not post directly:
>
>   Reply-To: "craver voun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   From: "craver voun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Subject: prueba 9
>   Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:23:06 +0200
>   Organization: K#VG
>   MIME-Version: 1.0
>   Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>boundary="=_NextPart_000_00FC_01C150DE.AD26AF80"
>   X-Priority: 3
>   X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>   X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
>   X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.
>
> We can see that the "to" field is set up, and the "<>" symbols should not
be
> a problem since many messages posted in the Mailman list with that same
> notation; it could be that tha Mailman list is not using Mailman (... I
> don't think so)
>
> Thank you.
>
> > On Tue, 2001-10-09 at 14:56, craver voun wrote:
> > > I have checked and the email I am using to send the messsage is
already
> suscribed. This is the message i get every time I try to send a message:
> > >
> > > Your mail to 'Lista' with the subject
> > > prueba 3
> > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
> > > The reason it is being held:
> > > Message has implicit destination
> > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will
receive
> > > notification of the moderator's decision.
> > >
> > > I don't undestand what "Message has implicit destination" means. Any
> idea?
> >
> > It means that the address of the list is not in the To: or Cc: headers.
> >
> > This often means that you have an incorrect host set in the "Host name
> > this list prefers" (bottom of General options page), or you are using an
> > alias it does not know about.
> >
> > [It would have made it much easier to give you accurate information if
> > you had included the error message the first time you posted]
> >
> > Nigel.
>
>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Lsoft Listserv archives

2001-10-15 Thread Jon Carnes

If your archives are html and searchable via the web already, then you
should just be able to copy over the files into their own directory and
leave it at that.  You might want to add a link on your mailman archives
page to indicate the URL for older archived email.

Just a suggestion.
- Original Message -
From: "Camel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 9:21 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Lsoft Listserv archives


> Anyone had any experience or luck transferring Listserv archives to
mailman?
> It's not critical, but it would be a "nice" thing for my listmembers. We
have
> a years' worth (many megs indeed). Any help would be appreciated.
> --
> Jay S. Curtis
> Camelid Listowner
> member info / subscribe / user options at:
> http://lrllamas.com/mailman/listinfo/camelid
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Subscription problem

2001-10-15 Thread Jon Carnes

Classic Relay problem with your MTA.

What are you using for your MTA (Sendmail, Exim, Postfix, Qmail, )?
If you are using Sendmail v8.11.xxx then you might want to look into your
/etc/mail/access file and see if your local machine has the right to relay
(send mail to an exterior mailserver).

Jon Carnes
- Original Message -
From: "Vania Lolham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:03 AM
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Subscription problem


> hello,
>
> OS RH7.1
> Mailman 2.0.6-1u70_1cl.i386.rpm
>
> If subscribe from internal network for an internal user,
> subscription is accepted.
>
> If from outside and anothr somain want to subscribe this
> what I get in the logs directory:
>
> bounce: Oct 15 22:40:31 2001 (20542) mylist: address
> me@mydomain not a member
> post: Oct 15 22:40:31 2001 (20542) post to mylist from
> mylist-request@mydomain, size=740, 1 failures
> error: none
> smtp: Oct 15:30:07 2001 (20432) smtp for 1 recips, completed
> in 0.604 seconds
> subscribe: Oct 15 22:40:31 2001 (20542) mylist: pending
> me@mydomain 210.xxx.xxx.xxx
>
> If from admin page: members management attempt to add a
> member of another domain, it adds to the list but no mail go
> out to that member.
> If the member is from internal network it will register and
> send subscription note to the user.
>
> I checked the setting of the httpd.conf and all correct
> according to the example.
> All file permissions are correct according to check_perms
>
> Aliases also are correct according to the output of newlist
> I also add the symbolic link for wrapper in /etc/smrsh
> And to make sure all the scripts get permission to execute I
> also added symbolic link for post and mailcmd in /etc/smrsh
>
> I check my defauld_domain and url all correct and are FQDN
>
> Please tell me what is wrong?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vania
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing list not working

2001-10-15 Thread Greg Ward

On 14 October 2001, Abigail Marshall said:
> my mailing list simply quit working. I don't know why.
> 
> The error logs show this series of entries for all messages sent.
> 
> > Oct 14 19:46:01 2001 (45918) Delivery exception:
> > Oct 14 19:46:01 2001 (45918) Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 82, in do_pipeline
> > func(mlist, msg, msgdata)
> >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 121, in process
> > inject_digest(mlist, digestfile, topicsfile)
> >   File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 166, in 
>inject_digest
> > digest = Digest(mlist, topicsdata, fp.read())
> > MemoryError:

You might be running out of memory.  How big are your digests, and how
much virtual memory does this machine have?

Greg

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[Mailman-Users] Subscription problem

2001-10-15 Thread Vania Lolham

hello,

OS RH7.1
Mailman 2.0.6-1u70_1cl.i386.rpm

If subscribe from internal network for an internal user,
subscription is accepted.

If from outside and anothr somain want to subscribe this
what I get in the logs directory:

bounce: Oct 15 22:40:31 2001 (20542) mylist: address
me@mydomain not a member
post: Oct 15 22:40:31 2001 (20542) post to mylist from
mylist-request@mydomain, size=740, 1 failures
error: none
smtp: Oct 15:30:07 2001 (20432) smtp for 1 recips, completed
in 0.604 seconds
subscribe: Oct 15 22:40:31 2001 (20542) mylist: pending
me@mydomain 210.xxx.xxx.xxx

If from admin page: members management attempt to add a
member of another domain, it adds to the list but no mail go
out to that member.
If the member is from internal network it will register and
send subscription note to the user.

I checked the setting of the httpd.conf and all correct
according to the example.
All file permissions are correct according to check_perms

Aliases also are correct according to the output of newlist
I also add the symbolic link for wrapper in /etc/smrsh
And to make sure all the scripts get permission to execute I
also added symbolic link for post and mailcmd in /etc/smrsh

I check my defauld_domain and url all correct and are FQDN

Please tell me what is wrong?

Thanks.

Regards,

Vania





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Re: [Mailman-Users] Apparent message lossage

2001-10-15 Thread Nigel Metheringham

I found the reason for this.  The MUA I'm using (evolution) added a bug
where pretty much all readers were copied into a reply from the original
message, including the list control headers (specifically X-Beenthere:).

This caused Mailman to drop the message silently.
I'd suggest that the error path causing a message to dropped in these
circumstances is modified to at least log a message somewhere - anything
that throws mail away *must* be logged otherwise confused mail admins
tear their hair out :-)

Nigel.



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[Mailman-Users] Lsoft Listserv archives

2001-10-15 Thread Camel

Anyone had any experience or luck transferring Listserv archives to mailman? 
It's not critical, but it would be a "nice" thing for my listmembers. We have 
a years' worth (many megs indeed). Any help would be appreciated.
-- 
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Camelid Listowner
member info / subscribe / user options at:
http://lrllamas.com/mailman/listinfo/camelid

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Moderated List

2001-10-15 Thread craver voun

This is the second time I get this message from the list :?
About the "to" and "cc" fields in the messages I send, here is tha header of
one of the messages I sent and was not post directly:

  Reply-To: "craver voun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: "craver voun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Subject: prueba 9
  Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:23:06 +0200
  Organization: K#VG
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   boundary="=_NextPart_000_00FC_01C150DE.AD26AF80"
  X-Priority: 3
  X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
  X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.
  X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.

We can see that the "to" field is set up, and the "<>" symbols should not be
a problem since many messages posted in the Mailman list with that same
notation; it could be that tha Mailman list is not using Mailman (... I
don't think so)

Thank you.

> On Tue, 2001-10-09 at 14:56, craver voun wrote:
> > I have checked and the email I am using to send the messsage is already
suscribed. This is the message i get every time I try to send a message:
> >
> > Your mail to 'Lista' with the subject
> > prueba 3
> > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
> > The reason it is being held:
> > Message has implicit destination
> > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
> > notification of the moderator's decision.
> >
> > I don't undestand what "Message has implicit destination" means. Any
idea?
>
> It means that the address of the list is not in the To: or Cc: headers.
>
> This often means that you have an incorrect host set in the "Host name
> this list prefers" (bottom of General options page), or you are using an
> alias it does not know about.
>
> [It would have made it much easier to give you accurate information if
> you had included the error message the first time you posted]
>
> Nigel.



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