[Mailman-Users] (no subject)

[jgo]

> Kevin Brouelette 2001-12-27 18:28:50 -0800 wrote:
>> Drama Share wrote:
>> Can you tell me if, (and if so where), a subscriber can be blocked,
>> other than through just using the moderate features.

> If you are using Sendmail you may block them before they
> even get handed off to mailman.

> I'll give you a hint,

> /etc/mail/access  and
> /etc/mail/addess.db

Good hint.  Once one has jiggered permissions, created the
/etc/mail/access   done the makemap to create the
/etc/mail/access.db  how does one go about telling sendmail
to actually make use of it (the default "data-base", the
README says, is /etc/mail/access and gives that weird form
   makemap hash /etc/mail/access < /etc/mail/access
but I see in the  doc
that he says "By default, the data-base is /etc/mail/access.db;
it's built from the text file /etc/mail/access by a Makefile...").
Please, clarify.

I can see that I need to edit either a .m4 or .mc file
(which I do not know, and there are dozens of them), and
then run it through m4 using m4 or ./Build in the cf directory,
which latter doesn't appear to be there (ahh, Build is not there,
but cf/ is).

I can see that when I find the right file, I need to make
sure it has the line
FEATURE(access_db, `hash /etc/mail/access.db')dnl

Does the .cf file have to be named config.cf for sendmail to
find and use it?  What directory should be its residence?
And what does "For 'traditional' versions, ${CFDIR} ***MUST***
 be '..'" mean, since, normally, ".." means merely the directory
just above the current directory but says not what one's current
directory should be when one is trying this?

Oh, and don't forget to restore the permissions, and don't forget:
chmod go-w / /etc /etc/mail /usr /var /var/spool /var/spool/mqueue
chown root / /etc /etc/mail /usr /var /var/spool /ver/spool/mqueue


>>> Mac OS X 10.1.2 (not OS X Server)
>>> sendmail 8.10.2-26.2
>>> mailman 2.0.7
>>> Apache 1.3.22

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[Mailman-Users] email looping - autoresponders - how to stop it?

[Marc Perkel]

I have a problem. I created a list and dumped a bunch of emails into it.
It sent an initial message to everyone - but one person is on vacation
and the autoresponder responded. Now Mailman  and the Autoresponder are
sending messages back and forth.

How do I make mailman ignore autoresponders?



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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman/Database connections

[J C Lawrence]

On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:57:47 -0500 
Michelle Murrain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Folks, Has anyone set up a system to synchronize in any way a
> SQL database (like PostgreSQL or MySQL) and a mailman mailing
> list? If so, how did you do it? Any code available? Is there a way
> to use a SQL database as the subscriber list for mailman?

There's been some discussion of such, IIRC with a couple scripts to
handle the synchronisation.

> If a tool like this does not exist, would it be of help to anyone
> here if I built one? (FYI, I am a Perl programmer primarily, so it
> will be a perl-based tool).

You'd do better to write a plugin for Mailman 2.1 (which allows you
to store the membership rolls in an external backing store, if given
the appropriate plugin).

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with undeliverable mail

[J C Lawrence]

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:06:53 -0800 
Michelle Brownsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My mailhost is chugging away, trying over and over to deliver to a
> large batch of addresses with a .gov domain that doesn't resolve;
> this particular .gov nameserver is obviously having problems.  And
> it's not from the sendmail's mail queue; /var/spool/mqueue/ is
> completely empty.  It's Mailman reattempting to send to the
> problem addresses.  

Configure your MTA to not do DNS verifies on deliveries from
localhost.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Capacity-size of mailing lists

[J C Lawrence]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 15:12:03 -0800 
Kevin Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We just did a test run of 50,000 and the server came to a grinding
> halt. ooops!  

What MTA, what hardware, how configured, how tuned?

I'm going to get in touch with the technology
> manager who handles the Cybergold mailings and find out how they
> do it.  

The very first hack is setting the number of RCPT TOs per message as
high as you reasonably can.  The exact choice will vary depending on
your MTA and MTA's behaviour (sites like AOL filter on over-large
RCPT TO lists, and the RFC recommends no more than 100).  

Past that you start wanting to spread the load about among multiple
systems, and to reduce IO loads and contentions on spindles, and so
forth.  Chuq has commented on his smurf army.  I've done similar
not-quite-the-same things with domain based routing (different
systems dedicated to handling deliveries to specific domain subsets
(see BugTraq's list architecture for details/inspiration as well as
the LServe docs and so forth)

The core problem is that it is inherently an IO constrained problem,
and standard MTA's are explicitly NOT built to be friendly to such
-- which essentially means you get to write your own MTA (non
trivial).

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[Mailman-Users] funny errors in /home/mailman/logs/error

[Thomas Hoellriegel]

hi, i installed mailman 2.08 under suse-linux. i have a question: what
error is this in my logfile?
Dec 26 19:08:01 2001 qrunner(31906): Traceback (most recent call last):
Dec 26 19:08:01 2001 qrunner(31906):   File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner",
line 282, in ?
Dec 26 19:08:01 2001 qrunner(31906):  kids = main(lock)
Dec 26 19:08:01 2001 qrunner(31906):   File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner",
line 202, in main
Dec 26 19:08:01 2001 qrunner(31906):  os.unlink(root+'.db')
Dec 26 19:08:01 2001 qrunner(31906): OSError :  [Errno 2] No
such file or directory:
'/home/mailman/qfiles/996a9e524b3b9897ad5b738bf84cb8abc70e2b60.db'

i don.t create or delete a file in /home/mailman/qfiles.

i have this error at anytime after to send a mail to a list. can your help
me please? thankx.

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[Mailman-Users] trouble with mailman install

[Justin Zygmont]

I have just a few questions that weill help me greatly with
installing mailman on RH 6.2.

I am using a 2.0.8 tar ball, is $prefix actually /home/mailman or
/home/mailman/mailman-2.0.8 ?

When I try to run bin/check_perms it always fails with the same message
saying there is an error in line 38 and i'm not running it from the
$prefix directory.  I tried running it from any location with the same
results.

thanks..




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[Mailman-Users] Automatic bounce handling

[Hanno Liem]

Hi all,

I have a short question to which I could not find anything in the archives
or on the web. Silly perhaps, but:

... is automatic bounce detection automatically enabled when you activate it
on the status page? I wonder how this would work then - because as far as I
can see, bounces go to the person who sent the posting to the list, and is
never seen by mailman?!

The way I *thought* it should work is by putting a reply-to header in the
message which redirects to the mailman 'bounce handler' script.

Am I wrong here or do I misunderstand?

Please enlighten me :-)

kind regards and a happy new year to all,

Han
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[Mailman-Users] unauthorized

[Nissley_Ron/EMM]

BDY.RTF
Description: RTF file

[Mailman-Users] Conditionally strip headers?

[David Gibbs]

Folks:

Does anyone know of a way to get Mailman 2.0.8 to strip some headers from 
messages?

I get a lot of Lotus Notes/Domino users on my list and their mail systems 
tend to add a LOT of garbage to the messages ... all of them prefixed with 
"X-Notes".

Thanks!

david


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[Mailman-Users] Mailman/Database connections

[Michelle Murrain]

Hi Folks,

Has anyone set up a system to synchronize in any way a SQL database (like 
PostgreSQL or MySQL) and a mailman mailing list? If so, how did you do it? 
Any code available? Is there a way to use a SQL database as the subscriber 
list for mailman?

If a tool like this does not exist, would it be of help to anyone here if I 
built one? (FYI, I am a Perl programmer primarily, so it will be a 
perl-based tool).

.Michelle

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[Mailman-Users] Mail is Erratic, please help

[Ganesh HariHaran]

Dear List

I have strange problems with mailman.

Am using the following tools and respective versions.

Apache 1.3.13
sendmail 8.9
mailman 2.0.6
RH 6.1
Python 1.5.2

I have 2 problems:


Problem 1:  

I created 2 lists  named forum and response  respectively, it was
working fine for almost a day and there were 6 users subscribed to 
each
list.

Suddenly my mailman stopped working and its not delivering mails sent
by the subscribers to the list, and when new users are subscribed, 
they
are not getting acknowlegment mail.

To put it in nut shell, the mailman is very erratic, everytime, i have
to reinitiate the crontab.in for cron and restart the qrunner process.
I really dunno what is the permanent solution for this.

Please guide me for a permanent solution to this problem.

Problem 2:

when i use my browser to subscribe to the list, i get an error "Bug in
Mailman"


Thanks in advance
Ganeshh 




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[Mailman-Users] Erratic Mailman/ whats the solution

[Ganesh HariHaran]

Title: Erratic Mailman/ whats the solution




Dear List

I have strange problems with mailman.

Am using the following tools and respective versions.

Apache 1.3.13
sendmail 8.9
mailman 2.0.6
RH 6.1
Python 1.5.2

I have 2 problems:


Problem 1:  

I created 2 lists  named forum and response  respectively, it was
working fine for almost a day and there were 6 users subscribed to each
list.

Suddenly my mailman stopped working and its not delivering mails sent
by the subscribers to the list, and when new users are subscribed, they
are not getting acknowlegment mail.

To put it in nut shell, the mailman is very erratic, everytime, i have
to reinitiate the crontab.in for cron and restart the qrunner process.
I really dunno what is the permanent solution for this.

Please guide me for a permanent solution to this problem.

Problem 2:

when i use my browser to subscribe to the list, i get an error "Bug in
Mailman"


Thanks in advance
Ganeshh